Story. Believe. It was. More. What i hear you saying is that. There was a need that. You are essentially driven by the. Question is that. The 1st issue that has been. The need to come back yet to come back. To the. Bank in the public space of. A positive. Change and this. Has been. Exactly what and where i want to take this conversation forward because many critics of the e. U. Have absolutely no issue with europes past they recognize the enormous success of the European Union you often say that reconciliation and peace are its greatest achievements most of the people agree with that they take issue with the ability of the e. U. As a system as a mechanism to move forward to be as efficient as it has to be in present times can you really do the reunion without changing the way the decisions are made yes be done. And the exactly what happens. In these middle age with the innovation. To element of innovation because the good the good in them and creation of the culture plus technology should have been closed only that in a close region the region and the influence. Of the society that i believe this time was a medicine and the 2nd. For the new world order mr you know that it happened many times in history that something that once was a blessing suddenly becomes a curse everybody agrees that its certain point of time the consensus model that the e. U. Has served it well but now it takes china less time to set up a whole industry and for the European Union to come up with a coherent policy dont you think that this mechanism of making decisions by consensus in this day and age when everything changes by the minute is a bit outdated to say the least. Seeing that is a bit about that you know but if you compete with china if you if it takes you years just to come up with a policy. That democracy is a very critical system. The least of the ones that allow to find. Killing millions of people that has been the lesson that you know. Because theres been a very difficult. And also be. Making decisions they dont have to be. You know that people. From the mental freedom. To decide to do. What has been promised by the. Simple and they know just the very beginning. To. A crucial democratic debate and they achieve nothing because they were. Even to. The European Union especially when it comes to technology and regulation of innovation i are saying that the europeans have essentially a choice between either having a democracy or have in the. Technological society. This is a very good question and this is the main challenges today because the main driver of the. 2 days. And is challenging to see. Is the. Reduction in the medium term of the workforce and the 2nd is what is called the human. Evolution so there could be a summer following that perhaps tomorrow. Will be delegated to human we became the executor and then it is much more pretty late in the west that we have to find a new way to maintain the human in command of this technology in. Your presidency specified 3 priorities Sustainable Development peace and culture and all of them strike me as something that europe does better than others its good at Sustainable Development better than many other parts of the world its good that culture is. Peace if you want if the rape. As you call it is about moving forward why do you focus on things that you. Focus on something that its troubles. I think that the idea to look to the. Is 1st of all i dont see that today europe is the one that is delivering better because for example china has not been a forefront of these ideas sustainability they were not to the situation of climate in beijing just a mission but today he understood it is the future and they are investing a lot in this so europe has been the inventor of this concept of being the main event. That has been approved by the. Banning goes to the plastic single use the can create. Enormous. Created enormous business in producing these other country have understood that these called cities working. The. Others agenda of change. For finance for enterprise for me. Hows that going to drive one of the reasons why china is such a leader in all those areas that you mention is because it has streamlined Decision Making europe again cannot compete. I keep going to the same question can you deliver that women without changing the way the decisions are made in the European Union and the way theyre implemented i think that. We can. Foster. Some longer but the mechanism and when we seeing that we can bypass and. Judge other because also someone a stall to the Center Moment it was the night of the. Market in china with the change the system of china and finally we discover the market economy that is winning the world is another called very efficient as well in raising standards for its people lifting millions out of poverty. In europe we never work and also in some part of the of the west europe we never work because the 2nd is the individual to the collectivity in their work in chinese working from 1000 is a concept that seems the foundation of china but. Is there any middle ground i mean we are talking not about major infringements on human rights or putting people into concentration. Camps were simply talking about streamlining policy on technical issues. To compete with china which is not going to sit around and. Look for example to the agreement the world today you were. Of trade agreement or why the United States. Members they negotiated. Delegated to negotiate to today you are. In front of. The want to negotiate. This one example the 2nd example europe has been through does make a. Unique case in the story. And to the. Security to these used by many and even the chinese. Just. Example of enormous success of. Example for you because just a few days ago your own country signed a memorandum of understanding with china an official. At the time. Even agreed formally on the. Country. Clearly. Someone can criticize this but you know. Very difficult. That being council between a european. National. Playing is no different from the case of. A big. China is a by law to make. Because there is definitely concern within the e. U. Circles that. Is striking out on its own here because its. Not the 1st country to sign that agreement but its the largest one of the most important within the e. U. Community. This is a challenge. I seemed to. Go into those open and this. Was. Going to china. There was these delegations if i didnt china coming to europe. And we have to remember there was a lot of debate. At the time of. That and theyll be accused to be and. As you will know for sure that the play they continue to play. In the does is to open an agreement. Does the chaneys i seemed to be managed and understood. And. To be criticised. By government as done because a not so being put into the bed with the parliament is not open to document such a debate and debate but in any case in the agreement the. Relation with china is very open these betty is very clear so is an ongoing debate. We have to find a way to cooperate we. Have to. I think. Mr. Hornik its only an issue into the Community Yeah he. Gets into any kind of. A you need to move. To what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy. Let it be an arms race. Spearing Dramatic Development the only. Strategy will be successful very critical. To sit down and talk. Welcome back to worlds apart as with a year at the president of the European Economic and social committee mr i heard you say those who oppose the european project often do that without offering anything concrete and yet if we look at the euro skeptics in your own country they seem to be very. What they want what they dont want they put. The supremacy on the National Legislation they want to strengthen the tally and culture the its. National identity they dont want more immigration or more isnt that concrete enough i would look to do is. To eat to live without being part of the European Union. Pass through the measure prizes konami give the one of the last 30 of the one the worlds when there was a big financial speculation looked like in 1002 against and they gave the pounce and the list of why exactly thanks to you if there was what you are this time that we doubt belonging to a perspective to go even more unification and more buy in the glacial to monetary italy would he understand that thats also a matter of debate because there are some who would tell you the. Italian gains of membership have been much smaller than among other Member States because if im not mistaken the average g. D. P. Growth in italy since 2001 was only a quarter of one percent compared to the 1. 7 e. U. Average can you really blame the italians for trying to look at the alternatives for example called trading with china. I think that when just because. To make from the mental distinction the. Fundamental argument for part of the relation beyond talking about the current government who has the support of the monday from the population. But you know it depends. On the demand of people. As well. As of course diligence in the seat because they were voted in the other were the opposition or the left as the many european because that is that is a big transition as i was telling there is a problem of the middle class of. So that is. Blaming it on globalization isnt that also part of the problem isnt the e. U. The Wage Structure guided their way defines its priorities isnt that also part of the conversation blame for the far right parties across europe. Taking. People off neoliberal Economic Perspective have been in power for quite some time everyone has to take responsibility in this very challenging time and of course there is a demand in our society due to the be good the normal that we are living and the fact that we just. Economic and financial crisis yes we. Are going much more coming back on the show at least 6 in the wood but we came out the without a measure of these 2 options in any case one issue when i am saying that the many of them only say no and. The magic example and the message they can buy hold the. Example the banks that they say no for 3 they do not succeed. And you see that from one e r. No. Or the. Police and the. Right wing parties are still despite. In power in italy in hungary in austria in poland there. In france it is expected that there are going to consolidate our presence in. The may elections. What is it in the policies of the. Driving the support. I am asking you to be critical in assessing because you are ultimately in charge of. Analyzing those trends and you have to take. Not only people also people you associate yourself with. The. Keep keeping. The media. Simply. For. The speeches they see that the finally. Is not working is not even supported. By the voters and this is mainly important describing that they have. To make. The most of them not to raising so much. As not being too. Because it. Has been in the deepest because most of the class is the important part by europes own decision joint forces of the United States. Have. Been a decision taken by. The consequences. Of membership is that fair when you are not partaking. Partaking in the decision but you all have to suffer the consequences is it fair. For the. Opening such of this year. And a Clear Strategy to build up. Any mandate from the international law. And international law. To prevent this. Not been the case in the last 25 with many of the global. To be very resigned to international conflicts. That we need. To invest very clearly. As a key to prevent the peace and also to negotiate. The. National. That are making the 3 skip let me since our time is running out i still want to ask a question about value because the European Union has long position. Based on to about a decade ago many Central Asian countries for example kazakhstan uzbekistan even russia to some extent wanted to deepen their cooperation Economic Cooperation with the European Union but they were told that you know we care a lot about values. You have to build your democracies 1st then the Economic Cooperation will depend they all turn to china helping china rise helping themselves certainly do you think it was a smart decision putting value of Economic Opportunities because china clearly have seized on those Economic Opportunities something some would say at the expense of the European Union. One cannot cannot leave that is exactly what. You are was accused. Conditionality to the aid that because you cannot mean. To say there is no countries being cut off the investment of. The 1st European Union members they most of them saying that has not been a mistake because they need more money with conditionality they look china as an opportunity but today they. Are. Not. But they want to be the new had of corporation or you are up in the your puter will be fair enough to understand that these new challenge to build up a new will. Seem that some mistake it to be very honest has been done in a certain point not only for the economic issue and values but for the International Geopolitics that has come back a very Strong International space between europe and russia not only with the rich in europe and. In europe and the United States. In this case is much more the responsibility of United States i think if i can say they did. She would decide. That europe is becoming the worst enemy if United States. Can be ask you one more question about values because its very interesting to me youve been very supportive of president call build a new european. Would say that you have to kind of. Own house in order before embarking on such grandiose plans when it comes to values what do you make. That wasnt in. Keeping with. The middle class from my point of view big mistake of managing a major decision about taxation on them specifically asking about. You when you have people that. Destroying everything on the other hand also have the use of explosive grenades and. Mains and kills people we are not seeing that even in authoritarian societies. Not seen in the. Least. Several 1000. And people losing eyes people losing their limbs. You know. To defend that its fake news i mean. You know. Those protesters have been have a hand that they can defend. Such a violent explosion. That they are very proud of the police is managing has not been the case in general. 20 years ago where the south thing is up and i want to just exactly do to praise the Italian Police force im asking about the French Police force because its a very important question when youre debating values whenever something some street action happens in other countries authoritarian countries in the european book there is always a very Harsh Criticism on any use of the police but here we are not hearing that forthright. As we have different sorts of information. Not. Because when there is of course there are also people who enjoy them. But they are not so you are not a little concerned about how. That is that we have steel. As we had in the past for example you need or ready at the european level. To put in just a. Decision that we had over the rules and not the least but i think. That we have also said that. That it should be overweight aided to prevent. 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