A big question what do we do with them people like lane maxwell his alleged madam who is about as tied up in his crimes as any person can be if you look through everything its pretty its pretty hard to sort of put it together and then when you look at that theres a numbers penny of also his assistants and these have been documented in a number of ways so you have sarah callan which was one of his assistants Leslie Grosse and marston each of these women was reportedly paid over 250000. 00 a year they were given cars travel gifts apparently even regular trips to frederick to have their hair done. So let me ask you do we owe these women a certain amount of benefit of the doubt when it comes to this or is epstein the one time when we really have to go theres a special place in hell for women who dont look out for other women well and this is as were seeing even this week weve had the new bombshell release about was the abuses that have been fox news and its a story about how the women sat and watched and what knew what was going on i think we do have to Start Holding other women account just like i expect men to hold men accountable for it we do have to and i but i do think we need to make a distinct difference between the women that were there because they were getting paid for and the women that were forced into that position as we did a story this. We showed where women were actually made it once they aged out they became the recruiters theres some grace in that one but the ones that we saw in the one i was so brazen his executive assistant this week that stage the photo out with a book with a publicist and a lawyer that one right there i do hope theres a special place in hell i guarantee its right next to where right now is burning. Absolutely and i would also say like some of the girls that were caught up in his schemes they filed a few of them followed lawsuits this week but they were telling stories about how they came from homes really didnt have a lot of money and they were abused in the sense that these female associates would reach out to them and tell them oh hey i we need you to teach a dance class at this wealthy mans house or we have an opportunity for work you can give this guy massages and all the son they were caught up into this scheme where not only was he sexually abusing them but he was paying them so much money that they felt like they were indebted to him so i think that brings up a whole new level of yes some of those girls then went on and felt like they had to become recruiters and so you ask yourself ok where were these associates what did they know and when did they come to the level where now all of a sudden theyre going on and finding other girls and becoming responsible for it whereas they may have started out as 1516 year old girls who had no idea what they were getting themselves into if you look at the teenage girls who an older man comes into their life maybe in a force in a way thats not normal for most of us we dont all of these sort of arrangements theyve been groomed so as have their 1819 they become these associates like rachel scott he said where theyre bringing the next generation they might not think any other way there is no other way for them so partly you do see them as victims because theyve been groomed for then the women who get the cars the travel alert level is that covering up are they hiding these horrible crimes and are going well these are going to benefit from it and you want to trust in the woman i want to take your advice especially if you dont trust in the world you want to take in these women do come from broken homes but i think you know you look at it you say the best we women are doing man is that we women in the same think theres also an friendships not only just for. Lation ships and these women were looking to other women for help but i think they actually should be held just as much of accountable for watching this happening and not saying a word just like i said if we cant ask men to do it for them for not doing it for ourselves you know its crazy to think that like in the case of going maxwell 1 shes out and in and out in los angeles and not being investigated by the police just by arresting i actually not a rested right now so the other thing i want to get to is Naomi Campbell so i want to point out this point that theres so much attention being part of what did she know what you know look at all the people she stood with she was 15 years old when she got into modeling so theres a whole level of this and i want to take a look world quick at what she had to say in relation to that she said asked if she knew who had seen was when the picture is at the her Birthday Party were taken lets take a listen. Yes i knew him i was introduced him to my 31st birthday by may explain friend flavio he was always front and center at the secret shows to discuss what he was doing. And what hes done is indefensible. And when i heard of what he had done it sickened me to my stomach just like everybody else because ive had my fair share of sexual predators and thank god that i had good people around me that protected me from this. Whats really important to me that she sat in there and it got me is she said there were good people around me that protected me and it takes me back to when the weinstein pain came out a couple of years ago and i had a moment where i realized that when i was working at miramax all of the women there oh my god im going to choke to stop all of the women there were always some sort of picked on a little bit if we dressed with heels or a little too sexy earlobe stick and we were kind of nagged about it we thought it was just people being funny daddies or people being weird and reality to look back and say oh my god they were literally protecting me do you think thats i think. The exact opposite for those women that are or are older a lot of them and tell us you know what child its life i had to live through or welcome to the industry you have to sort of the other thing is especially as you get older you go i want to keep my job so im not going to rock the boat either especially for some little 21 year old whos coming in for my job good luck child i survived thats the wrong mentality that we have to change but that is how it has been for at least 20 years it wasnt the men that were the big predators that i was always worried about it was the women that basically fed me to the sharks because basically they want to take out the competition now and it said that you see a lot of girls even you know in their twentys still being treated that way i can tell you how many countless women that you just see in any industry sports News Entertainment they are kind of pushed for this angle there is for a long time. Associate of mine knew so much one of the major sports and histories that would send her flowers and be really creepy towards or let me go just accept it its part of the job if you want to work there thats 25 years old and shes going to having women 50 going its the way it is it should be the way it is and sometimes we need to have not only the bad accountable to the women who keep pushing these other younger girls what are you going to tell the next generation that its really its our responsibility to do that what should we be teaching what i think we should definitely be continuing this conversation because especially when we look at 1st it started out just like younger girls and then we find out that ok hes sex trial. Getting younger girls and then we find out that he has famous friends in the Entertainment Industry in the modeling industry all of those kinds of things was clear that his influence fluence was reaching out throughout all of these industries so i think its important to teach younger girls not only just being better influences to them but also realizing that they can speak up about these things as they become more common as we continue to hear that our mothers generation our grandmothers are they all have the stories that and theyve never been able to talk about it until now you know it should be on our generation for the next one to say it is now it stops now we dont let this go by we dont let the men or the women get away with it but for on a time on a schedule rocor question so the n. R. A. Obviously is getting through there and all of this stuff theyve clearly whatever side youre on about guns or gun control these veered from what they were when i was a kid its very from the core of values so why do you think do you think that if a nonprofit is getting a benefit from our tax system or any tax system in the world do you think if they go away from the core values that got them that tax credit that it should be taken away scottie well and that youre right separate guns the 2nd amendment from the n. R. A. And thats separate about 10 years ago 2 different ways it all became a money market money making scheme that really wasnt about is about getting politicians elected they were going to continue the lobbyists field that being said any time you have any lobbying such theyre getting taxpayer dollars the key is it has to be fair across the board hold progress this is much accountable as you hold conservatives and everything in between thats where you have the sticking points i think i wish we had more than ive got and i have got a little i dont know i will get to not very big you so much ladies study now here is regina hamm and rachel levin thank you so much for joining me here in the gallery as we go to break cockatrice dont forget to let us know what you think of the topic you cover on a social media be sure to check out watching the hot pod cast now available on spotify apple music and everywhere you listen to podcasts coming up tyrols internet talk the impending recession revolution and asses. Hemel gas wheres the support at a fire in brazil thank you for watching. In this community there are people who believe that its ok to eat this up. Its really hard there are no jobs and you see that ive got kids that ask and as a parent. I can come up with arguments and theres a lot of conflict within the game and between the teams most of the conflicts i would say are over balls around money and most of their money is made. Close one on the childrens cosimo each other is Good Business the state of california alone makes 6000000000. 00 a year of the prison complex just to get some 20 a life where. You dont care anymore nobody cares about your so your care might anything. Ok. The rain forest is burning Global Temperatures are rising the United States Nuclear Arsenal is back in style and the us president just proclaimed himself to be the king of israel busy before attempting a cotton for brained scheme to buy a greenland oh and on top of all of it it appears a very deep ugly and long overdue recession is on the horizon well my friends thankfully the Business Roundtable is a group of c. E. O. s from over 200 major u. S. Corporations featuring the discussion which lives of jamie diamond jeff bezos apples tim cook bank of americas bryan wine and Lockheed Martin is maryland and right the Thomas Kennedy and philip blake of bear monsanto fame just name a few they are here to bail us out theyre here to save us all theyre like the knights of the round table minus the chivalry honor and valor in this week they announced in a letter that shareholder value is no longer their Main Objective yes in light of these times we are living these creatures of executive bonuses and Corporate Tax breaks to the 1000000000. 00 are now entirely focused on delivering value to our customers investing in our employees dealing fairly and ethically with our suppliers and supporting the communities in which we work is supposed to change in heart on how the u. S. Corporate world does business intriguingly. Just as a recession appears inevitable and there is a very real chance my friends that a socialist could end up president in 2020 i wonder if this is all a coincidence alan murray the c. E. O. Of fortune observes more and more c. E. O. s worried that public support for the system in which theyve operated is in danger of disappearing so are the pitchforks coming for the gilded c. E. O. Class lets find out with a little perception that perspective. Is a break today to bring a little perception of perspective of the founder of truth in media investigative journalist ben swan professor of media studies at georgetown christian embers and watching mock social media producer Devon Springer i want to start and ask you ken can we believe you ben 1st did we believe this knew about face for us corporations. By the Business Roundtable that theyre going to be more responsible to their workers the community and the environment or is this really ultimately just a Public Relations move given the Political Climate of the country better being cynical in thinking that this is just p. R. No i dont need to being cynical at all in fact i think it would be a show me dont tell me dont tell me all the good things are going to do for workers amazon show me what youre going to do for workers and when jeff bezos talks about making life better for his workers hes talking about the robots or is he talking about the actual humans who are working in his warehouses or the contractors who drive around in their cars delivering packages all day i mean the reality is i think theyre that these titans of industry if you want to call them that are right in that they recognize there is a coming kind of revolution that will change the way the system operates right now and so if you want to be able to stay on top of that system you better start operating differently but where is the evidence that theyre going to i mean jeff bezos i know im picking on him but i think he deserves to be picked on a little bit here here is a man who finally after got some he got so much pressure from Bernie Sanders increase minimum wage at amazon to 15. 00 an hour but took away Stock Options from the employees Stock Options and what build wealth in this country instead he gave people a few more dollars an hour but took away the wealth building mechanism so you know dont tell me all the things youre going to do show me what youre going to do to actually make life better rebuilds where do we agree that as a show me as a soldiers word where they just kind of speak and say im like oh you know tell us what we want to hear. Well yeah. Its b. S. In the worst way because you have people not i mean not you know you are right to pick on business but everybody on that list is walking a tightrope between do i keep donald trump and his base do i keep them in the room meet soon so they dont go populist because youve got to remember thats where this Movement Began his base would begin populist we want to keep corporate so we got to keep him and his crazy in line somehow because so you see tim cook and all these people come to d. C. Or go to bed and then go tomorrow lago and back out to somebody that they know is insane but at the at the same time. Theyre making these pronouncements and you know so they give up stockholder value me thats always going to be the measure because its the easiest thing for economists and business wants to measure theyre always going to go and you dont hear them saying oh were going to give up our exorbitant c. E. O. Salaries you dont you dont hear that coming up at all and i think thats actually ironic coming from you know these these millionaires and billionaires because their combined wealth could end things like world hunger us homelessness could be ended in a matter of days of bezos wanted to write while we have this wave of sort of green capitalism taking over i think its just them trying to save face because they know the sort of political tide in the country is changing and so the left thats what i want to get to next is New York Times editorial far ponders the major recession that were all kind of seeing on the horizon could cause a Major Political revolution in this country in the United States and he is quoted as saying Company Executives are right to worry a downturn will mark the end of a record period of uninterrupted economic expansion and yet the vast majority of americans will not look back on the last decade as years of like fat and plenty this was a gilded expansion a decade of creaking wage growth and profoundly on equal outcomes ill start with you would a recession coupled with a massive wealth you know with them. Yes of wealth inequality that weve seen the rise of course was will we see a full blown Political Revolution if this recession hits and if it hits bad well i would say it like this if they wanted to stop becoming revolution its too late. Said the streets feel the recession before the c. E. O. s ever do so working class people have felt the recession we felt the cutbacks weve been penny pinching for years now its already here its already coming i think that the c. E. O. s and the corporations will feel it last actually but i think we could definitely see of some kind of Political Revolution or just some really radical sort of shift in the way we think even about like activism and action in this country i think were going to see a huge paradigm shift really soon if we havent already if the movement for black lives for example. I want to and i think. Just real quick i think its important to say that you know in the case of this oncoming recession where you have 2 president ial candidates on the democratic side in Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders who are really trumpeting this idea that yes for the past 5 10 years we have not seen throughout the general population in america actual wealth growth. Actual growth in wages and actual better quality of life more buying power for the dollar instead of less there has been no single real positive indicator unless you are on the very top and when they keep driving that point home yes of a recession comes i think there are a lot of people who will say the system will never work as it is it has to be flipped thats interesting you know theres also to move on to this other story that caught my eye in an interesting dichotomy in the news media took place this week with the news of massive fires destroying the rain forests in brazil when the Notre Dame Cathedral caught fire you had major round the clock News Coverage from all the Major Networks but despite the amazon rain forest the heart of the lungs of the earth being on fire for 3 straight weeks journalist matt arguer is observes there are no calls for unity no 24. 00. Our Media Coverage and no one is pledging anything to help stop it in fact if you search google know whos for amazon the 1st 10 stories are about jeff bezos and if you look for amazon fire you get ads for the tablet i have to say ill start with Chris Chambers what it why is there such a discrepancy in coverage when you when it comes to these 2 things we look at notre dame around the clock amazon apps barely anything you know we we told courses about that man and youve heard me talk i mean its everything from Corporate Media and downsizing and not being able to place people with expertise in these stories to basically we want to do the democratic horse race we want to cover trumps latest racism this is hard for people and they and a lot of the the editors in the Major Networks be they the Cable Networks or the broadcast networks they actually do think that there are a number of people particularly old people that they poll who dont care about the environment and they do not look at the vast numbers of younger people and older people like me who care about whether we live or die in the next 50 years so that its all conspiring and then you also have a government in brazil thats very similar to ours so thats not helping matters in terms of putting people on the ground and youve been a journalist for a long time why why are we seeing this coverage equally across the board here well i do think in reality just in terms of the imagery it is not as exciting way if youre working in a Network Newsroom that show pictures of the amazon burning versus notre dame i mean if youre just doing it from that rob this real response i agree with chris its its ludicrous that its not covered but it does require time patience and education to teach people why this is a story that matters and we dont have the news media that cares about educating people its playing a sport its sporting people against each other and this story doesnt fit into that paradigm to sit down and explain to people that about 20 percent of all the on. On earth comes from that rain forest to help people to really understand the depth of this story requires a little bit of effort and newsrooms in america dont put effort into any kind of depth and instead everythings about pitting people against each other and everything fitting into a narrative this story doesnt fit into the narrative so it doesnt cover and thats the tragedy i see with a lot of these climate or environmental stories is that this is seriously our lives on the line or at least you know youre probably younger sky is probably its definitely your future on the line and you know we might all miss this but if we lose the right to force this is a big deal at the end of the day yeah and i think whats interesting is a lot of these corporate sort of Media Outlets were were sort of speculatively praising both snarl and he was elected because of the promises he made to deregulate the environmental protections and sort of allow the gates to open up for this to happen and so the few articles we have seen written some of them are by the very same publications that just a year or 2 ago were praising the options for expansion of business in the amazon forest right so theres a very real sort of Business Economic types who would as well so theres so many different angles for this story to be the number one trending story in the world and the fact that media is a glazing over it but the Notre Dame Cathedral is was was turning for a week straight and raise millions of dollars its sad its very sad especially to a Catholic Church that already has believed that it was in billions to rebuild really quick i mean they blew it with the whole by agreement because there was your there was your youre kind of you know false lead and you can go right into everything is melted out but they went by the way so i got to say thank you all 3 for coming on of a great conversation Chris Chambers springer and swan always a pleasure having 3 of you on thank you so much for coming on today all right everybody that my friends our show for you today remember born in this world but we love that about the flood tell you all busy i love for Tabitha Wallace i am tired rove and turkey been watching all the. 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