Welcome everybody is watching the hot some top of the wallace and joining me now live from miami with the latest on the abstains story is r. T. America is john hardy thanks for joining me jon. So while youre out of the one details do we know so far since the indictment was unsealed and abstain taken into custody over the weekend. So he was arrested saturday Teterboro Airport you mentioned this in the opening when he arrived from paris he was on vacation in france landed at teterboro arrested taken into custody by federal agents there he was charged today in Manhattan District Court he pled not guilty to one count of sex trafficking conspiracy and one count of sex trafficking so 2 counts all together may not sound like much but theres belief among in you know the legal circle that possibly this is the 1st. Other charges and indictments to come regarding abstain that maybe this indictment is a placeholder if you will to basically get him off the street because there is concern the prosecutor said today hes on repentant and possibly that these illegal activities were ongoing now that said the 14 page federal indictment i have a copy here alleges that between 20022005. Quote unquote enticed recruited and caused to be enticed and recruited minor girls to visit his mansion in manhattan he has that he 71st Street Townhouse and his estate in palm beach florida to engage in sex acts with him after which he would give the victims hundreds of dollars in cash and further the indictment alleges that epstein would pay certain victims to basically recruit additional girls to be abused by epstein that according to the indictment some as young as 14 years of age and among the evidence and discovery presented today in Court Prosecutors say a vast trove of lewd sexually explicit photos of what looked like young girls under age girls were found in abstains Upper East Side mansion that federal agents raided on saturday when that sting was taken into custody now some of the details in the indictment are too graphic and sordid to get into or at least to read on air but you know this remains a very familiar story when it comes to jeffrey abstain basically that he preyed upon young girls generally from broken homes or that were on the verge of being homeless and prosecutors at this point are recommending that epstein be held without bail arguing that because of his wealth that he is a significant flight risk remember he owns an island in the caribbean he owns of course the man manchin the estate here and also a ranch near mask mexico and thats as i mentioned that hes unrepentant of his past and perhaps was even continuing the illegal activities with underage girls taboo. So there some thought that again that this may be the beginning of more charges and indictments to come. I mean i think would what was so surprising to me is that it was actually happening i think most of us have given up hope that there would be some movement on this case if you look back at you know 2008 to 2011 when you know the 1st time we really heard about jeffrey abstains problems the law and at that time he made a very sweetheart deal where he sort of went to jail but not really and as you said hes a consumer flight risk hes also a level 3 registered sex offender which means that they assume that there is a very high level that he will commit these acts again and weve known not for over 10 years. So i think its you know what were looking at now itll be interesting to see not only how many more as you said charges i mean even these 245 years for someone who like him was in his sixtys that could be a life sentence but i think youre right were going to see a lot more coming forward and a lot more stories especially after this weekend. Thank you so much sorry go ahead. No no no i would agree you know looking managed to avoid those federal charges pled out to a lesser state charges back in 2008 but i can tell you this that you know his victims at that time they were teenagers but now theyre grown women and they have families and their children themselves so now i think were starting to see more people coming forward theyre willing to come forward and 111 last point a very dramatic moment during the press Conference Today when the u. S. Attorney in new york stepped away from the podium at one point he pointed out a picture of this large board that had picture and he encouraged anyone else who may have been a victim or abused by epstein to come forward and to call the f. B. I. So again i think its safe to say there are likely other victims out there and thats and theres possibly you this is the beginning of much more to come with this case and further charges and indictments well see but a very serious a very stunning and a very sordid story absolutely i think for walking us through that john heidi from miami. This weekend in washington d. C. Dueling protests hit the streets as far right and far left pro groups face off over their right to free speech and the right to protest each others ideological agendas so how did these 2 groups handle the events and how did Law Enforcement handle them heres our to america. With this story. Were here in washington d. C. Where there are multiple several hundreds of protesters from both sides promoting free speech both sides of the political aisle on one side of persian park we have and teeth and on the other side we have a crowd voice in Freedom Plaza just blocks away from the white house where the groups the 2 groups are separated by a barricade of Police Presence there is a multiple police cars police. By hundreds of Police Officers here in d. C. Making sure the protests do not become violent several 100 conservatives including members of proud boys a far right Extremist Group gathered in Freedom Plaza where several conservative leaders spoke out against censorship on social media and anticonservative bias i stood up and i just dropped at the congressional hearing right and i called jack dorsey a liar because he was committing perjury when he was lying to members of congress on our taxpayer dollars saying that he doesnt censor and shadow ban conservatives former editor millo you novelist was among the line up of speakers but they were outnumbered by counter protesters who demonstrated across the street many of whom included members of the far left Extremist Groups and t. V. Was was. Caught police were on high alert as members of anti attempted to penetrate various Police Barriers surrounding Pershing Park many roads were blocked off and shut down around the plaza as police try to avoid a repeat of last weeks incident in portland oregon. That was. These protests come just days after the demonstrations in portland turned violent leaving 8 injured including conservative journalist and no earlier this week Washington Police said they were prepared for any situation given their frequent experience with similar political protests while numbers of anti for refused to comment several counter protesters voiced their motivations for attending ive come here to stand up against White Supremacy im here to in solidarity not susan bash are welcome in our town ken from the free hugs project promoted a message of peace and understanding amid high tensions between the opposing protests its great for people to be able to get their message out i think thats always important regardless of what you believe i just try to stand against violence and so thats why show up my shirt. Free hugs lets people know look im here in peace and i think everyone should do the same demonstrators on the conservative side and express general concern for freedom of speech im here to support free speech is a free speech rally so were about at the end of the day were all people no matter if we wear a red make America Great again hat or not were able to have a conversation about where we stand on certain issues. That. One protester claimed he was assaulted by and trying to have a conversation with them about their views of crowley and since i was just walking by one of them decide to repair it read my hat off for my head and then now and then now they want to deny it they want to say oh i dont know why youre talking about these people these people are violent all right all extremists are violent ok these people are no better than the nazis and the same exact thing the heat index is almost 100 degrees here in washington d. C. Today but that didnt stop the hundreds of people who showed up now overall were hearing a lot of the same issues from both sides of these protests reate interesting things from hate speech to freedom of speech things like the trumpet ministration policies in regards to particularly immigration now era means unclear in or remains to be seen if both sides can come together for a dialogue but from what weve seen today it really isnt clear if it will be possible any time soon reporting in washington salmon test erica artes. As we go to break down for you to get to let us know what you think of the topics weve covered on facebook you tube and twitter and the survey check out watching the hot on cast now available on followed by the music and everywhere you listen to 5 kathy are full for that argue dot com coming up interpreter of ben swan joins me to discuss the unlawful arrest use of your drivers life and in databases used by the f. B. I. And i am the master of making a very. Close flyby of earth this week. During the Great Depression which are old enough to remember there was most of my family were unemployed working. There wasnt it was bed much worse objective listen today but there was an expectation of the things were going to get better. There was a real sense of hopefulness there isnt today todays america where shape by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power. Reduced democracy attack solo down engineer elections manufacture consent and other principles according to no on. One set of rules for the rich opposite. Thats what happens when you put her into the. Sector of will switch is dedicated to increasing power for chills just as youd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race. Very dramatic developments only im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very. Time to sit down and talk. Georgetown law researchers obtained documents emails and facial recognition requests there are a series of freedom of information act requests revealing a questionable tactic used by the f. B. I. And according to the data and a report from the Washington Post millions of u. S. Citizens have had their drivers license scanned and added to a federal database without permission from citizens or Congress Just last month f. B. I. Deputy director kimberly del greco glenn claimed that face the Recognition Technology is necessary quote to preserve our nations freedoms and sure our liberties are protected and preserve our security however with consent the key and facial recognition many now wonder if this database is legal or necessary to be made now for more on this revelation is our to america contributor and host of truth and media. Thanks for having me on thank you so much for coming on ben ben so so what exactly is going on here. Well i think you kind of laid out the picture pretty clearly here so essentially you think about it this way the f. B. I. Has decided and other federal agencies have decided that they dont need your permission to log you into a mass of an ever growing facial recognition database and in order to get your image they have done something thats actually fairly expedient which is to go around to states all around the country and to access the department of Motor Vehicles the d. M. V. Records which houses photographs of millions of americans and to access those photographs by simply sending an email to the state and saying we want to go through. Your records and the states are agreeing to this 21 states to have a have agreed to allow the f. B. I. And ice and other agencies for as little as just an email requesting permission to have agreed to allow those federal agencies to skin into catalog and to create their ever expanding as i said facial recognition platform by using the program Motor Vehicle pictures and the bottom line is that you as a driver that i is a driver have never signed up for this we did not sign up for it we got a license in the 1st place we have not done it when we renew our licenses we dont do it we move from state to state even those 21 states that have allowed for this to happen have no process in place to get consent from drivers in order to pass it along to the f. B. I. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that im trying to understand how this process is legal because while enforced in the United States for our International Viewers. In the us as i said consent is king in this situation because Law Enforcement is supposed to get permission obtain permission either from a citizen or from the court in order to search your personal information to go in there and as you said we dont we dont sign anything saying yes you can use this put it in a database so how is this legal is this a push against our Civil Liberties. Well i think it absolutely is a pushing and Civil Liberties look the 4th amendment protects against someone searches and seizures and it requires warrants in order for that to happen right and yet the problem is is that there is no warrant now i should say this there is one state washington the state of washington does require the feds to get a warrant and to get a court order in order to be able to access that those d. M. V. Records so they do not just turn them over just because the f. B. I. Or ice or Homeland Security requests that they require a court order but so many other states have not required that so thats thats the 1st point but the 2nd point is that youre absolutely right consent is key here there is no consent on the part of the driver there is no consent on the part of the citizen who is having their face collected as part of this and if you say well below that the state own the d. M. V. Records right there are the ones who take the pictures theyre the ones who issued the licenses thats true. But facial recognition is not the collection of drivers licenses facial recognition is taking bio metric data standing that processing it and placing it into a catalog system your biometric data meaning your facial imprint meaning the the 14 or 32 points on your face that are required in order to get a biometrics are actually your property its your likeness it actually belongs to you and so you dont have the right to simply take that in collected at will there has to be some form of consent and courts have already ruled on similar issues about this in the past in terms of people who have gone into you know private venues or arenas and had their face scanned and were not given their given consent or given notice that that was happening and have ruled that thats not. You know whats interesting again is this idea of you know i understand like our drivers license is a property of the state. They actually own the property of the actual lessons but as you said we own our likeness i mean if somebody takes my likeness and puts it on somewhere and makes money off of it or uses it in a business sense i have recourse when my government does that it gets a little trickier say of this constitutional question of search and seizure but it kind of brings up the question of whether we have any recourse for whats happening is there recourse if you are realizing they are one of these people we dont want to have this happen what do you do. Theres a lot you can do right now i would assume at some point there will be lawsuits now that this is come out and again thanks to Georgetown University who actually did the 4 request that allowed them to figure out this was going on so now that its out will there be lawsuits very possibly there will be im actually a bit surprised you know by by these socalled conservative states that do not stand up against this because you would think that they would call this a states rights issue that is that if you are a citizen of an individual state it because you have consented to give up your likeness in order to drive a vehicle that does not equal giving up the consent to allow government to now scan your image and keep it in a separate database and so why are states like texas which is one of the states is going along with this why arent red states like texas or conservative states like texas say no were not going to go along with this and it goes back to this idea and this is the troubling part of it right out of the is is the the photo battle between states rights and the federal powers it doesnt really happen its an issue by issue case its not an issue of having a principle where you believe that people should not be subjected this way thats the 1st but again i want to remind people and you made a good point there are a lot of International Viewers that the show in other countries you may not realize how this works and that when the government takes some kind of a image of you that they can just collect it but its thats not how it works here the state issues a license its a very specific thing theyre issuing in that case they dont have the right to then take that and use it however they want for instance if you get into a car crash and blood is drawn at the hospital the federal government does not have the authority or the right to now approach the hospital and say by the way were making up a collection of d. N. A. Samples wed like to have all the d. N. A. That you have in this place and put it into our catalog there has to be a court order for that to have actually theyre not free to just take it and collect whatever they want at this point but its. Like every day we get closer to the point where they are jus