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A man who denies being one of the leaders of the yemeni insurgency up with al shami executive director of the Arabian Rights Watch Association and geo was a mediator it recent un facilitated human talks arranged with on boy Martin Griffiths in jordan he joins me now when welcome to going underground so youre invited to parliament as part of the stop the War Coalition labors Lloyd Russell moyal you know on this show says on further investigation its become clear to be inappropriate to give this person you a public platform the accusation i presume being of anti semitism only and on the other hand you are obviously someone who knows a fair deal in your position executive as executive director of the Arabian Rights Watch Association about the worlds worst humanitarian crisis so basically i was shocked yesterday to receive this news and i was prepared to discuss on speak in the parliament and. Share with them the humanitarian catastrophe any im in the situation and what what what kind of initiatives that are available to be made to help yemeni people to reach a political reconciliation a political frame or a road map you know to reach a solution they only listen to one part of the story dont listen to the other parts of the stories you know the to flex maybe the u. K. Government alliances with the saudi inamorata Led Coalition and them anymore were going to saudi arabia but i got to tell you Lloyd Russell moral is a champion of human rights you know great friend of this government hes on the u. K. Parliamentary committee on arms control but just to be clear reuters has a wire up on the internet who is the representative in the jordanian capital that recent un facilitated talks you arent the hoochie representative what why why would there be that mislabeling well the thing is and thats with all the agreements that happened between. Via the envoy martin gryphus government and the de facto government and son are and will they always refer to had the government and the Yemeni Government because its internationally recognised by the International Community they refer to the de facto government as the who thinks so anybody who comes from anybody who speaks or is against this war in general who against aggression and the against they join or the occupation of yemen in general is directly be part of the community they categorize everybody as a hoot the right away. Because they want the people to think that only who are against this war and or against this aggression at least and there are a lot of yemenis that are against this aggression and thats what were trying to race to the International Community and also to the u. K. Parliament i wanted to have this opportunity to share this with them but when we. The board of deputies of british shoes come on the show about why. You were effectively banned from the brits. They went thanks to getting in touch but now that mr Russell Moyle the labor m. P. As rescinded the invitation to you we feel the matter is closed why do you think the board of deputies of british jews want you not to be invited to the house of cornwall i think that. They are supporting the war against them and thats i mean thats what thats what thats my only definition to it i mean they can use all this in a phone and all the words you know that about anti semitism and all that but that doesnt matter and thats a side put this aside. If they really wanted peace they should have heard everybody point of view and they should know that there are some steps to take you cant isolate people and keep bombing them every day and expect them just to be quiet and im sure they would say they stand up for human rights but you might have seen it all the widespread press attention about yet again and the semitism allegations of the labor body the senate they center on a particular logo of the community itself death to america death to israel because the jews how can anyone possibly support an organization which has cursed the jews as well the thing is i think these issues and these questions will be raised to the who think themselves should answer them for me and the yemeni american just to let you know and so basically theyve confused you as the main hooty negotiator perhaps from a reuters report who knows because youre in amman and they seem to be saying you cursed the jews presumably youre going to tell me now you dont believe. The think its look they have their spin you cant tell me that you dont believe in cursing the jews well of course me i mean im. Against all hate speech as you know all hate speech is that as a human rights activist thats not good you know because how can you ask for peace and share peace and do the op. You know but the think is what im trying to reach here is that they have their own spokesperson and they have their own political delegation that is of course. It doesnt represent them all the presents all the sects and all the parties that are with them the g. P. C. The General People Congress which is the Biggest Party in yemen is with them and they went to the same one delegation from sun not to sokal to negotiate so its not only the who they keep focusing on the who thieves and isolating all other parties and all other yemenis that are against this war and thats not fair well up until recently the British Government was supporting the the war the bombing training the war plane pilots to bomb yemen with british planes they cannot do it anymore and i presume part of that was the hoodies or new arabian proxy and youre wrong there every other community in yemen at the moment is supporting the sort of rump government in hideouts in saudi arabia saying that the Jewish Community in yemen right now is supporting doesnt support the airstrikes the british bombers bombing him well there is there is a Jewish Community in yemen and believe me im shocked you know there are against this aggression and there are some jewish fighters that are fighting in the war against this this aggression this occupation we have no proof of that at the end of the day a foreign invader is coming into yemen their country you know theyre part of the Yemeni Community nobody can deny this you know thats one thing the other thing is that theres a kind of hypocrisy by the u. K. Government and theyre saying it openly and theyre going to support their strategic allies. Which is the saudis and. By their Core Coalition and they continue selling weapons to them at the same time they say theyve now stopped because of a court delete their campaign. Against the British Government is appealing. Yet there is an appeal thats all im saying but regardless you know then they say that they are concerned about the bombshells and the bloodshed that is going to replace one of the biggest donors to the humanitarian catastrophe well i wish that they donate as much as they gained from the profits from selling the weapons they think is now the yemeni yemeni people they dont really know members of the well i want to clarify this point you know that many people in general they gave up they dont have faith anymore and International Community and particularly the u. K. Government because the u. K. Is the pin holder of the of the yemeni file and the Security Council and the think is its not about raising your concerns only how can i trust you and you still continue selling weapons stop selling their weapons and make it official in fairness to the British Government you know that the Saudi Arabian government has threatened to withdraw. Security corporation as regards bombs on british streets if. You want to argument executive director of the World Food Program David Beasley has claimed who was a diverting food aid from the hungry as people on earth thats the World Food Program will attacking the who these and presumably in the same vein as youre talking about those opposed to the saudi bombing all the think is i believe because. Its always used at the. Interruption in this massive program is all and i know you raised it at the amman i met once she was the head of the world. Foreign minister exactly i was talking about the corruption that happens on all humanitarian aid and she told me it happens in all the countries and as long as they can reach one poor person thats a Success Story for them ok but who are making. The official name or be a systems they. Are i dont think that anybody is making profit. Although the ones that are making profit are the ones who are selling the grains britain is appealing a court ruling on british arms sales what do you think finally does it say about britain in 2019 that someone like you from the arabian rights which association have seen the website with Human Rights Council links exam lists internationally what does it say about britain then that youre not allowed to speak because you are considered an anti semite and i hate or of jews well the think is this you know and the think is all the people the wrote about me they dont know me and theyve never heard me speak about it or talk about it or even discuss this with me even the m. P. Himself you know i mean i was invited and i was honored to go there supposedly to go there and speak but unfortunately it was cancelled but let me tell you this we always an. Association called for an independent International Investigation to all war crimes from all parties in the party who had the government the saudis them or at least the u. S. The u. K. All the parties involved in this war i want to thank you and as i mentioned earlier in the interview the board of deputies of british jews told us thanks for getting in touch but now that mr Russell Moyle has rescinded the invitation we feel the matter is closed so we are doing any interviews we also invited Margaret Hodge m. P. Jewish voice for labor and labor friends of israel all were unavailable after the break as the un condemned for actively silencing Climate Science and brazils balsa naro for mining plans in rain forests britains shadow foreign secretary speaks to going underground about what a climate revolution means and a century to the day the world worked up she learned of the imperialist treaty of versailles revolutionary movements it was constructed to defeat only a small counter bar to have going underground. I think the reason that they have not attack iran so far its not that they didnt want but i would say that they couldnt do it as thinking of a short and quick war with iraq but i would say that that would not be the case trump said that if they wanted to they would have killed about 150. 00 people in the rain inside but the question comes to me is that america is a country in the past by Nuclear Bombs do they really care about killing 150 people. This is a stick from the old water bottle phone in the stomach of a fish the brand is part of the Cocacola Company which sells millions of bottles of soda every day the idea was that lets tell consumers there are the bad ones there are the litter bugs are trying this way industry should be blamed for all this waste the company has long promised to reuse the plastic. Special projects funded. On. The mountains of moist only grow higher. Welcome back this week for the ball student un special rapporteur in extreme poverty and human rights at the Climate Emergency will likely lead to Climate Apartheid impact. Hundreds of millions of people literally undermining basic rights to water housing and life but democracy itself is comments came just before thousands protested Climate Action at westminster one protest was your record in shadow foreign secretary of the thornberry going on the ground caught up with what would happen if Jeremy Corbyn wins the next general election the importance of having new legislation and having tied to targets making sure that measurably measurable properly but i think also what we also talk about and it kind of comes from who we are as a labor party is you know we have an Industrial Revolution in britain we were the 1st country to have an Industrial Revolution what we need to have is we need to have a green Industrial Revolution we need to be able to show people that actually change the way in which we do things will give them jobs as well not only will it save the planet but it also gives them a future in many of the areas that you know Old Industries well we need to make sure that they are responsible for the new industries and weve got a a team that goes round and i mean i did one in the West Midlands where we talked about Climate Change and how it would affect their area and what it is that they could be doing and in the West Midlands they were saying well look were the engine house of the business and industry in the u. K. Were Small Businesses give us the chance give us the opportunity and were sufficiently sort of small and agile to be able to do what we need to lead and again what im just saying a moment ago i think its we have to be kind of honest about this and something as as as. As important is this has to be dealt with in a radical way and it has to be driven by government and the has to be driven centrally and it needs to be i think its something which fits naturally into the way the party sees things we think that if you need radical change has to come from Central Government and we shouldnt be afraid to do that you cant ask people to do goodwill or hope that somehow or other the market will provide because it clearly isnt it clearly isnt challenged this needs to be dealt with by Central Government completely committed to making sure that they are measuring everything they do against Climate Change. Yes Climate Change what does it mean to you personally this fight against Climate Change. Personally. Personally i think i come from the selfish generation i think that my generation have not only killed all the tigers and you know the face no woman on the planet you know weve got the the Pension Funds and we call properties and weve got ownership and weve got the wealth i think on the 1st generation is passing the world on to my children to west state and they stay im here today and i dont think that my children will forgive me and nor should they if thats what i thats not my legacy i feel it very personally actually as a mother and as a politician you know and as somebody who wants to be to be proud as i go to my grave when im on my deathbed will i be thinking to myself that i do the right thing and at the moment i dont think we are british other foreign secretary thornberry that speaking to us at the time is now Climate Change protest in westminster well of the world needs a climate revolution which is arguably never recovered from a revolution in 1917 the new book red star of the 3rd world illuminates the impact of the Russian Revolution like no other tracing its impact in a myriad of countries from latin and Central America and the caribbean to africa eurasia Southeast Asia the subcontinent and the far east its all the video joins me now v. J. Welcome to going on the ground so why have you written a book called red star of the 3rd world frankly you had one of the most important world historical events that took place in 1917100 years ago when the people of the zionist empire rose up overthrew the shah and created 1st a democratic government in the beginning of 1917 and then deep in the revolution and created the peoples government the impact of that revolution on the colonized world was absolutely fundamental and what i felt had happened in the commemoration of the Russian Revolution is once more it had been wrapped up in the cold war in cold war logics in thinking about your up as the center of the world and so on when in fact the impact of the Russian Revolution was much greater felt. In the rest of asia in africa and in south america than it was felt in marxs home countries of germany and britain now were just commemorating celebrating who knows how the establishment will see the end of us or the treaty of versailles so we know about history and the way its written by victors and so on this get into premonitions 1st because i got to say i have to say from the outset richard this is one of the op most optimistic happy books they wont get ever imagine theyre just going through the premonitions you name check got on the in india the easter rising in ireland and apartheid in mexico you see one interesting feature of what had happened the years before the Arabian Rights Watch Association<\/a> and geo was a mediator it recent un facilitated human talks arranged with on boy Martin Griffiths<\/a> in jordan he joins me now when welcome to going underground so youre invited to parliament as part of the stop the War Coalition<\/a> labors Lloyd Russell<\/a> moyal you know on this show says on further investigation its become clear to be inappropriate to give this person you a public platform the accusation i presume being of anti semitism only and on the other hand you are obviously someone who knows a fair deal in your position executive as executive director of the Arabian Rights Watch Association<\/a> about the worlds worst humanitarian crisis so basically i was shocked yesterday to receive this news and i was prepared to discuss on speak in the parliament and. Share with them the humanitarian catastrophe any im in the situation and what what what kind of initiatives that are available to be made to help yemeni people to reach a political reconciliation a political frame or a road map you know to reach a solution they only listen to one part of the story dont listen to the other parts of the stories you know the to flex maybe the u. K. Government alliances with the saudi inamorata Led Coalition<\/a> and them anymore were going to saudi arabia but i got to tell you Lloyd Russell<\/a> moral is a champion of human rights you know great friend of this government hes on the u. K. Parliamentary committee on arms control but just to be clear reuters has a wire up on the internet who is the representative in the jordanian capital that recent un facilitated talks you arent the hoochie representative what why why would there be that mislabeling well the thing is and thats with all the agreements that happened between. Via the envoy martin gryphus government and the de facto government and son are and will they always refer to had the government and the Yemeni Government<\/a> because its internationally recognised by the International Community<\/a> they refer to the de facto government as the who thinks so anybody who comes from anybody who speaks or is against this war in general who against aggression and the against they join or the occupation of yemen in general is directly be part of the community they categorize everybody as a hoot the right away. Because they want the people to think that only who are against this war and or against this aggression at least and there are a lot of yemenis that are against this aggression and thats what were trying to race to the International Community<\/a> and also to the u. K. Parliament i wanted to have this opportunity to share this with them but when we. The board of deputies of british shoes come on the show about why. You were effectively banned from the brits. They went thanks to getting in touch but now that mr Russell Moyle<\/a> the labor m. P. As rescinded the invitation to you we feel the matter is closed why do you think the board of deputies of british jews want you not to be invited to the house of cornwall i think that. They are supporting the war against them and thats i mean thats what thats what thats my only definition to it i mean they can use all this in a phone and all the words you know that about anti semitism and all that but that doesnt matter and thats a side put this aside. If they really wanted peace they should have heard everybody point of view and they should know that there are some steps to take you cant isolate people and keep bombing them every day and expect them just to be quiet and im sure they would say they stand up for human rights but you might have seen it all the widespread press attention about yet again and the semitism allegations of the labor body the senate they center on a particular logo of the community itself death to america death to israel because the jews how can anyone possibly support an organization which has cursed the jews as well the thing is i think these issues and these questions will be raised to the who think themselves should answer them for me and the yemeni american just to let you know and so basically theyve confused you as the main hooty negotiator perhaps from a reuters report who knows because youre in amman and they seem to be saying you cursed the jews presumably youre going to tell me now you dont believe. The think its look they have their spin you cant tell me that you dont believe in cursing the jews well of course me i mean im. Against all hate speech as you know all hate speech is that as a human rights activist thats not good you know because how can you ask for peace and share peace and do the op. You know but the think is what im trying to reach here is that they have their own spokesperson and they have their own political delegation that is of course. It doesnt represent them all the presents all the sects and all the parties that are with them the g. P. C. The General People Congress<\/a> which is the Biggest Party<\/a> in yemen is with them and they went to the same one delegation from sun not to sokal to negotiate so its not only the who they keep focusing on the who thieves and isolating all other parties and all other yemenis that are against this war and thats not fair well up until recently the British Government<\/a> was supporting the the war the bombing training the war plane pilots to bomb yemen with british planes they cannot do it anymore and i presume part of that was the hoodies or new arabian proxy and youre wrong there every other community in yemen at the moment is supporting the sort of rump government in hideouts in saudi arabia saying that the Jewish Community<\/a> in yemen right now is supporting doesnt support the airstrikes the british bombers bombing him well there is there is a Jewish Community<\/a> in yemen and believe me im shocked you know there are against this aggression and there are some jewish fighters that are fighting in the war against this this aggression this occupation we have no proof of that at the end of the day a foreign invader is coming into yemen their country you know theyre part of the Yemeni Community<\/a> nobody can deny this you know thats one thing the other thing is that theres a kind of hypocrisy by the u. K. Government and theyre saying it openly and theyre going to support their strategic allies. Which is the saudis and. By their Core Coalition<\/a> and they continue selling weapons to them at the same time they say theyve now stopped because of a court delete their campaign. Against the British Government<\/a> is appealing. Yet there is an appeal thats all im saying but regardless you know then they say that they are concerned about the bombshells and the bloodshed that is going to replace one of the biggest donors to the humanitarian catastrophe well i wish that they donate as much as they gained from the profits from selling the weapons they think is now the yemeni yemeni people they dont really know members of the well i want to clarify this point you know that many people in general they gave up they dont have faith anymore and International Community<\/a> and particularly the u. K. Government because the u. K. Is the pin holder of the of the yemeni file and the Security Council<\/a> and the think is its not about raising your concerns only how can i trust you and you still continue selling weapons stop selling their weapons and make it official in fairness to the British Government<\/a> you know that the Saudi Arabian<\/a> government has threatened to withdraw. Security corporation as regards bombs on british streets if. You want to argument executive director of the World Food Program<\/a> David Beasley<\/a> has claimed who was a diverting food aid from the hungry as people on earth thats the World Food Program<\/a> will attacking the who these and presumably in the same vein as youre talking about those opposed to the saudi bombing all the think is i believe because. Its always used at the. Interruption in this massive program is all and i know you raised it at the amman i met once she was the head of the world. Foreign minister exactly i was talking about the corruption that happens on all humanitarian aid and she told me it happens in all the countries and as long as they can reach one poor person thats a Success Story<\/a> for them ok but who are making. The official name or be a systems they. Are i dont think that anybody is making profit. Although the ones that are making profit are the ones who are selling the grains britain is appealing a court ruling on british arms sales what do you think finally does it say about britain in 2019 that someone like you from the arabian rights which association have seen the website with Human Rights Council<\/a> links exam lists internationally what does it say about britain then that youre not allowed to speak because you are considered an anti semite and i hate or of jews well the think is this you know and the think is all the people the wrote about me they dont know me and theyve never heard me speak about it or talk about it or even discuss this with me even the m. P. Himself you know i mean i was invited and i was honored to go there supposedly to go there and speak but unfortunately it was cancelled but let me tell you this we always an. Association called for an independent International Investigation<\/a> to all war crimes from all parties in the party who had the government the saudis them or at least the u. S. The u. K. All the parties involved in this war i want to thank you and as i mentioned earlier in the interview the board of deputies of british jews told us thanks for getting in touch but now that mr Russell Moyle<\/a> has rescinded the invitation we feel the matter is closed so we are doing any interviews we also invited Margaret Hodge<\/a> m. P. Jewish voice for labor and labor friends of israel all were unavailable after the break as the un condemned for actively silencing Climate Science<\/a> and brazils balsa naro for mining plans in rain forests britains shadow foreign secretary speaks to going underground about what a climate revolution means and a century to the day the world worked up she learned of the imperialist treaty of versailles revolutionary movements it was constructed to defeat only a small counter bar to have going underground. I think the reason that they have not attack iran so far its not that they didnt want but i would say that they couldnt do it as thinking of a short and quick war with iraq but i would say that that would not be the case trump said that if they wanted to they would have killed about 150. 00 people in the rain inside but the question comes to me is that america is a country in the past by Nuclear Bombs<\/a> do they really care about killing 150 people. This is a stick from the old water bottle phone in the stomach of a fish the brand is part of the Cocacola Company<\/a> which sells millions of bottles of soda every day the idea was that lets tell consumers there are the bad ones there are the litter bugs are trying this way industry should be blamed for all this waste the company has long promised to reuse the plastic. Special projects funded. On. The mountains of moist only grow higher. Welcome back this week for the ball student un special rapporteur in extreme poverty and human rights at the Climate Emergency<\/a> will likely lead to Climate Apartheid<\/a> impact. Hundreds of millions of people literally undermining basic rights to water housing and life but democracy itself is comments came just before thousands protested Climate Action<\/a> at westminster one protest was your record in shadow foreign secretary of the thornberry going on the ground caught up with what would happen if Jeremy Corbyn<\/a> wins the next general election the importance of having new legislation and having tied to targets making sure that measurably measurable properly but i think also what we also talk about and it kind of comes from who we are as a labor party is you know we have an Industrial Revolution<\/a> in britain we were the 1st country to have an Industrial Revolution<\/a> what we need to have is we need to have a green Industrial Revolution<\/a> we need to be able to show people that actually change the way in which we do things will give them jobs as well not only will it save the planet but it also gives them a future in many of the areas that you know Old Industries<\/a> well we need to make sure that they are responsible for the new industries and weve got a a team that goes round and i mean i did one in the West Midlands<\/a> where we talked about Climate Change<\/a> and how it would affect their area and what it is that they could be doing and in the West Midlands<\/a> they were saying well look were the engine house of the business and industry in the u. K. Were Small Businesses<\/a> give us the chance give us the opportunity and were sufficiently sort of small and agile to be able to do what we need to lead and again what im just saying a moment ago i think its we have to be kind of honest about this and something as as as. As important is this has to be dealt with in a radical way and it has to be driven by government and the has to be driven centrally and it needs to be i think its something which fits naturally into the way the party sees things we think that if you need radical change has to come from Central Government<\/a> and we shouldnt be afraid to do that you cant ask people to do goodwill or hope that somehow or other the market will provide because it clearly isnt it clearly isnt challenged this needs to be dealt with by Central Government<\/a> completely committed to making sure that they are measuring everything they do against Climate Change<\/a>. Yes Climate Change<\/a> what does it mean to you personally this fight against Climate Change<\/a>. Personally. Personally i think i come from the selfish generation i think that my generation have not only killed all the tigers and you know the face no woman on the planet you know weve got the the Pension Funds<\/a> and we call properties and weve got ownership and weve got the wealth i think on the 1st generation is passing the world on to my children to west state and they stay im here today and i dont think that my children will forgive me and nor should they if thats what i thats not my legacy i feel it very personally actually as a mother and as a politician you know and as somebody who wants to be to be proud as i go to my grave when im on my deathbed will i be thinking to myself that i do the right thing and at the moment i dont think we are british other foreign secretary thornberry that speaking to us at the time is now Climate Change<\/a> protest in westminster well of the world needs a climate revolution which is arguably never recovered from a revolution in 1917 the new book red star of the 3rd world illuminates the impact of the Russian Revolution<\/a> like no other tracing its impact in a myriad of countries from latin and Central America<\/a> and the caribbean to africa eurasia Southeast Asia<\/a> the subcontinent and the far east its all the video joins me now v. J. Welcome to going on the ground so why have you written a book called red star of the 3rd world frankly you had one of the most important world historical events that took place in 1917100 years ago when the people of the zionist empire rose up overthrew the shah and created 1st a democratic government in the beginning of 1917 and then deep in the revolution and created the peoples government the impact of that revolution on the colonized world was absolutely fundamental and what i felt had happened in the commemoration of the Russian Revolution<\/a> is once more it had been wrapped up in the cold war in cold war logics in thinking about your up as the center of the world and so on when in fact the impact of the Russian Revolution<\/a> was much greater felt. In the rest of asia in africa and in south america than it was felt in marxs home countries of germany and britain now were just commemorating celebrating who knows how the establishment will see the end of us or the treaty of versailles so we know about history and the way its written by victors and so on this get into premonitions 1st because i got to say i have to say from the outset richard this is one of the op most optimistic happy books they wont get ever imagine theyre just going through the premonitions you name check got on the in india the easter rising in ireland and apartheid in mexico you see one interesting feature of what had happened the years before the Russian Revolution<\/a> was that the people are on the move and this was evident to lenin you gotta understand that you know lenin was sitting in switzerland in zuma wild with a group of his colleagues in the what became the bolshevik movement there were about 15 of them you know it was a small group and yet they looked around the world and they said theres been a revolution in mexico into in 1011 theres been a revolution in iran in 1011 theres been maybe multiple revolutions in china and they said you know the world is on fire and who in this world is leading this revolution it wasnt the intelligence here it wasnt the bush was he it was the peasantry and this gives lenin the great deal of corp that the president s of russia and the zionist empire were capable of rising up in the same way as the mexican peasants the iranian peasants and the Chinese Peasants<\/a> of the world bank and i. M. F. Are worried enough today about the brics countries and russia and china working together tell me about what you. Found about the chinese secret societies in the origin of how china was involved in the Russian Revolution<\/a> let alone what was happening in. St petersburg 970. 00 i mean one of the things thats often forgotten is the czar to stand by or included a large number of areas which were not lets say european i mean the bulk of the zionist empire in terms of pedantry was dark european the population was largely centered in europe and in what is today central asia the Central Asian<\/a> republics there were very close intimate dies indeed with the chinese you know a Chinese Society<\/a> and this included chinese secret societies know what what were these you know these were small group beings of often the advanced elements of the peasantry you know small shopkeepers people like that who form groups and organizations you know these were that because of early communism its within these secret societies that some of the main communist military leaders in central asia and in china emerged so people like the great general miles general you know talks openly about how he learned Organizational Skills<\/a> in these secret societies which not only helped as you said in the Chinese Revolution<\/a> but of course played a central role in the Russian Revolution<\/a> which just didnt happen out there in St Petersburg<\/a> and moscow but took place you know in the outer reaches of mongolia which took place in todays kazakhstan turkmenistan uzbekistan and so on and when you talk about. The stuns as they are now after the fall of the soviet union there is an American Connection<\/a> because you mention that the African American<\/a> communist poet Langston Hughes<\/a> translated poems about the turks railway from tashkent because technology is part of this is well theres a culture which i dont see people have forgotten how important the revolution in russia was for people not only in the colonized world but also you know people who were seen as lesser within the west. In other words people who are descendants of enslaved africans and so on for them it was profound because one of the great promises of the Russian Revolution<\/a> one of the rips in history as it were was the promise of creating human beings you know we say in order to. See insaan work we were born people with great difficulty we became human and i think hughes reacted very strongly to the possibility of becoming human which is why he traveled extensively in the soviet union i dont know whether the state department has read your book when you look at drum and how wide ranging is Foreign Policy<\/a> is whether it be in latin america or venezuela and cuba or whether it be on iran do you think the powers that be fully understand the threat posed by such wide ranging connections oh quite the exact in this book to horrify them i hope so i mean i also hope that it would give them a sense of pause because you see that they dont believe in constructing humanity they dont believe that theres a unified humanity they see humanity broken into bits you know the white house doesnt see iran as a place of people they see iran as a threat thats why it didnt believe in the future they want to manage the present they want to manage the gains of the past so theyd be humanized people what hughes and others like him saw what might have called ski saw the grit to spoil it of the Russian Revolution<\/a>. Looked at what was happening and said the future humanity is not possible and thats what i really want to underline i mean look at britain the amnesia over colonialism is extraordinary you know i would make the argument that part of this bricks of debate is an absolute refusal to acknowledge britains own history you know england was produced by colonialism i dont again just breaks a debate with every there is obviously an entry neo liberal pro bring. View on that you mention indonesia has the largest Muslim Population<\/a> in the world if the nightmares for the west are bad enough when they read your stuff about. Mere say short term god they have a bus career turning the all russia Muslim Council<\/a> to from vetter becoming a bolshevik one of these ties between islam and the bolshevik revolution you know it was amazing because in the early period the muslim intellectuals of firstly the zionist empire but then all the way out to iran downby indonesia they understood and recognised that the promise of equality and humanity was not going to be established merely spiritually and so you had an attempt by many scholars again from indonesia out to iraq trying to reconcile islam and marxism this was such an enormous threat that in the 1960 s. The cia colluded with the saudis to create a group called the World Muslim League<\/a> whose express purpose was to break this link and they forcibly pushed it kind of right doing islam undercut it whether its up in dagestan and chechnya or its in indonesia and you see the fruits of it today you know afghanistan was not a country of you know very conservative hyper masculinity form of islam it was a very country where sections of the of the imaam it were very very strong marxist brought communists brought socialist broader public and but did order to be marginalized and thats the role that the cia played from the 1960 s. Onward you briefly talk about the calamity of the spanish civil war only makes it go in the u. S. As a this is supporting the republic but then i mean i said it was a happy book very quick britain is to sport arguably these connections and destroy all of these i suppose you would. 117 legacy movements from the caribbean to asia to africa i mean you know its sort of fascinating after the Russian Revolution<\/a> and to colonial nationalists tried to gather and then years later they met in brussels at the league against imperialism meeting where people came from all over africa parts of latin america and india and they talked about basically the the agenda which would be put into place almost 3 decades later bonding indonesia in 155 after they left the brussels meeting many of the people who attended it who came from africa and from latin america were imprisoned and several executed i mean we forget that the kind of socalled benevolence of the west was not seen at all and experienced as benevolence by people in the colonies. 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