A component of kitchen utensils and plates the association between melamine in the kidneys in urine of cats that die and the melamine that was in the food they consume is undeniable additionally melamine is an ingredient that should not be in at food at any level. Following the 2007 recall one central question began to resonate among consumers. What are dogs and cats actually supposed to eat its confusing because the pet Food Industry is telling us what to feed our pets more based on what they want to sell us and whats necessarily good for that that is old bro when phrase about mary and now an author and her new book is called the war l treatment please welcome dr barbara well good morning they all right thank you so much for being here so let me ask you this what are the things that were giving them that when shuttle and then what should. It will be given that we are so no corn no meat no so way after many years of r. And d. We have found that corn is still the best available source of carbohydrates when processed and refined properly those are the things that cause overweight diabetes arthritis chronic Skin Infections allergies things like that thats the precursor for a lot of that if youre feeding point attrition and theyre eating a lot of those things that mess with the body they just dont stay healthy let me ask you this that there are those the things that you find in dog food or youre talking to people who are giving table food to know its and on food. During the war there was a moratorium on using the metal cans for canned food so they said you cant use metal cans for dog food anymore you have to use that for ammunition. As somebody said we need to make the dog food something we could put in a paper bag and thats how they did it and nobody thought at that time that making a camel and eventually the way that we process it now could ever be a help detriment to the dogs. Now because of the way that the world is corn and wheat have become so subsidized and so chain its a super cheap way to make a food for somebody who cant say no its a good thing theres definitely an epidemic of problems now in animals that i dont think weve seen anything like it in in history every animal that comes in to see me theyll say oh theyre basically healthy but the list of problems is immense so its not that theyre healthy theyre actually suffering from sed many many maladies a lot of the same maladies that we see in people we have animals that have you know diabetes in arthritis they have auto immune disorders theyve got allergies and part of the reason for that is because we are actually creating these problems. Its a huge epidemic of problems all of them i believe can be linked to a very simple problem of diet. And. 2 i have heard for the top you can. Still 12 years old you know you dont know 12 yo you know why you know that 4 years old because your parents feel extra food if you put this down have you think arrows just write on it absolutely the best and i can imagine theyre so excited about it and its gone forth and i worry about them eating raw food and then letting me know i do not know this but it isnt because the fact is. There arent any fashions and its. Just that. I think raw food is weird to a lot of people when i 1st mentioned it to people they sort of say raw food i have to feed raw food to make my diet healthy like are you crazy and i well you know you dont have to do it itll make a difference in make a huge difference. One of my hobbies and passions is wildlife rehabilitation. This is her did. You see. I have been fascinated with nature and life something i can remember. 2 i became a license to wildlife rehabilitator when i was 14 and i knew that i would have a life long career helping animals so when i was 14 i heard about a woman that had tremendous success with wildlife rehabilitation name was Barbara Harvey and she was in a hurry kind of concent and i called her and i said barbara my name is karen bakker and of course. Years old and i want to know how you became so successful. Long story short she invited me to her home in her account wisconsin she lives in a beautiful log cabin during the winter months and she lives in a teach me under 18 acres during the summer months she invited me to live. On her 13 acres and see how she rehabilitates cox eagles i was and. Barbara has the best success rate in the country with raptors and the reason she has such a success she feeds biologically appropriate all. Living mice rabbits rodents to those animals to be able to help the body recover from injury. So when i went to Veterinarian School years later and i sat to these nutrition courses and when they gave me the laminated chart that told me what food i should feed with what disease process things did not add up. Before i went to vet school i worked for years in zoo medicine. The most important thing i think i learned from that is every species has its own requirement teach species must eat what it is supposed to eat its developed evolved to have a specific diet that keeps it healthy. Each animal has its own biologic requirement for certain nutrients a species appropriate diet for worms is dirt a species appropriate diet lets say for hummingbirds would be nectar if you cant feed earthworms nectar and you can feed hummingbirds sturt both of those animals would simply die it gets pretty confusing with dogs and cats however because dogs and cats are nutritionally much more resilient than other species and what that means is that we can nutritionally abuse them for lack of a better term and they dont die immediately they just have the overall vitality decline and overall degenerative changes take place in their bodies from feeding them food that are not biologically appropriate cats being obligate carnivores have to. Consume meat to be able to thrive they do not have a biologic requirement for any type of carbohydrate very high protein require a very high moisture requirement and a moderate fat requirement cat originally we were domesticated to guard the grain race because cats dont consume green cats consume ice that consume the grain and so by domesticating cats we assume that there was a mutually beneficial relationship we do know in the last 100 years since we have produced cat foods on the market that cats have experienced significantly more Kidney Disease and we know that they have experienced obesity. Failure and diabetes at a much higher rate and certainly we need to begin evaluating what role nutrition has and some of those degenerative diseases Kidney Disease is the number one killer of cats and we know that asking cats to process and entirely do you hate rated food such as kibble can be very detrimental to Kidney Health dogs evolved from the gray wolf and we know that dogs came. Out of the order carnivora which means theyre carnivores in 1903 the international society. Redefined. Familial laris as just these are the people that define what category what taxonomy animals fit into and why this society concluded that dogs were genetically identical to wolves they shared 99. 9 percent of the d. N. A. We know that geno typically the genome type the d. N. A. Is identical to what has changed over the last 2 to 3400 years is the phenotype phenotype is the jacket which is what looks like we have dogs dogs of hair blue eyes dogs with crazy types of here in the body and no hair anywhere else short like a dogs double coated dogs weve created these fantastic varieties of breeds because we like diversity in one. We seek despite the fact that we have bred dogs to have certain characteristics we have not bred out of them their keenest lupus d. N. A. So yes just as you can have brown hair blond hair or you can have blue eyes or green eyes brown eyes your nutritional requirements as a human being remain the same despite the fact that you look past the different depending on what your d. N. A. Dictates. What politicians do something to. Put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president or injury. Or some want to. Have to go on to be pros which is what before 3 in the morning cant be good. Im interested always in the waters and that. There should be more. As we speak large organize care of a bar on the march to the United States. 70 and a player coming out for a carrying. No swarms remain slaughtering dad. This is a virtual invasion of our country for so far bigger than anything we say. That im at the end i thought of it but i meant a day out or a felony of know for nothing up in the form of a feeling you know its going to stuff it in. A nice powerful. As you go through as you know were going to see a movie or who goes unnoticed is a serious issue for a player for truth about. The. The the. The. In the lead a showdown between washington and tehran there is no regional ally to restrain the us is worse the tendency with barbs treated and sanctions imposed what can stop the us from sliding into yet another middle east war. And our own backs or head to go behind it or if you give us such. An arguer. Of it is that people. Just fitted the mother ship it. To my medical to move. Them to manage to fish you know my bush before. The meat. They are left has from. God since we. Need. To meet the needs. Of the scandal in the. Bill clinton system definition in. Minnesota in the news. The Major Companies criticize raw diets warning consumers against the hazards of feeding romita pets claiming it can make your animal sick. However those companies who repeatedly criticize feeding world diet have yet to produce a single study to provide any substantial evidence to support their claims. The problem with the types of Research Studies that you are describing they would go at least 7 day to 10 years in length before you would get a definitive answer within our. Legal requirements and framework said its not f. D. A. Has responsibility to do such studies the research has not been done on raw foods not because there is an interest but because the 1000000. 00 it takes to fund that particular research simply isnt there now integrative in areas are working on that but tricia veterinarians will say and tell we see the research were not interested in recommending this particular food for dog and cat owners we just dont believe its safe and healthy the frustration is is that we dont have clinically Proven Research demonstrating that dry and canned foods are wildly healthier for pets as well. The larger corporations are not very interested in proving or disproving the value of their food because theyre already making a 1000000000. 00 on it and theres no reason to do that Research Since major pet Food Companies are involved with and have influence over vet student lack of education surrounding role diets ready exist heavily among traditional vets when clients come to veterinarians here who have not been educated about raw foods at all and say im considering feeding my pets raw meat of course the logical conclusion is why theres a lot of bacteria in the raw diet and its kind of a ticking time clock if you could harm them or why would you do that or its risky i think groff food as too much of the potential for negative side effects that its just not worth it peoples biggest question is there could be. Pathogens or bacteria parasites within the food that could cause illness to pets when dogs eat raw diets their feces their poop has a lot of bacteria. Lets talk about. Dogs if given the opportunity will eat. Dogs and cats being carnivores are equipped to be able to process their evolutionary food source which is raw meat. All of their digestion has acclimated and has evolved to be able to process whole living unadulterated protein so from ripping and tearing their dentition is set up to be able to process meat their stomach acid is very acidic in fact the ph of water which is highly acidic that stomach acid is in place to be able to neutralize pathogens or potential harmful bacteria that could be present in the food from the outside the pet Food Industry looks like the perfect industry there are beautiful packaging there are diets for every disease in disorder theres all kinds of different colors and futile pictures and if you look a little deeper unfortunately that isnt what the pet Food Industry is all about. Ive collected a few examples here and were going to go over some labels but 1st example is the food that on the front says be several meals fully prepared and bursting with flavor who doesnt want that in a pet food 1st a previous corn 2nd ingredient a soybean meal starting greeting as peace and bone meal for think gradient is growing wheat followed by animal fat preserve the ha we can see they are the ha is the toxic preservatives that should not be found in any human or pet foods despite the fact that it is the 1st 3 ingredients are carbohydrates that are totally unnecessary followed by a totally toxic preservatives selfish q bag not a car. Next we have a food that has one act. Several packaging awards because its so beautiful there are chunks of meat falling from the sky and beautiful here of course and here we have a nice array of radioactive colors that have been added in for you the consumer dogs and cats cannot see all these different colors this is added in because you get my cash it looks beautiful my pet would love it but the amazing buzzwords like a full light. One can or doesnt want their pet to have a playful life this is just entirely a marketing 1st thing greeting a ground yellow corn totally biologically unnecessary 2nd ingredient you can buy products meal totally rendered inappropriate in terms of quality to be nourishing your dog with turning green corn gluten meal very allergenic totally unnecessary for think the whole wheat flour and then animal fat although this really looks to be beautiful and something youd be interested in nursing or one of my recommendation is to avoid it over here and they have a special latte right to help with prebiotic fiber theres a lot of these patented words that are trademark words that companies will use to how kind of distorted their product is Something Special included. As a means of you coming back and buying it because other brands youre comparing it to doesnt have to help its a good so good marketing on that we have this particular food is to be a less quality if you are a goat. When you add up organic from rice organic only organic millet organic barley or getting grain store go organic peas organic potatoes. That portion of the ingredients in this particular food doesnt outweigh the organic chicken or the chicken mia healthy really what are you supposed to say unhealthy the worst possible food in my opinion you could ever feature dog. Number one ingredient beef byproduct. Of fruit toast corn syrup what is byproduct. My product is whats left over after an animal has been slaughtered and all the edible parts have been removed the criticism lies in the mystery of the meats being news. What is quality quality is a term used when discussing how good or bad the world material that goes into the food actually is whether this protein comes from diseased animals euthanize animals kill human food waste or processing the industry doesnt have to disclose the source of the ingredients. That doesnt prevent them from easily proclaiming that every ounce of their pet food is of the highest quality. The issue is on the back of the dog and Cat Food Bank it doesnt say render terrible quality protein it doesnt say that it also is we also cant less legally grade a u. S. D. A. Inspected me so this leaves this giant gap for the consumer to have to fill in that void and its wildly confusing the controversy with kibble exist because troy food is forward of moisture. When your animal eats try to put in a permanent state of dehydration the quality insourcing of where the ingredients came from is kept secret in even if the ingredients were perfect the manufacturing process to make any product shelf stable for extended periods is performed adik strongly high temperatures. This creates 2 potent carcinogens that are cyclical means in a cruel mind however most companies do not disclose to the consumer what temperature their foods are cooked and they act as if the trace amounts of carcinogens pose no threat it was a real 948 when veterinarian mark morris decided to create the 1st person correction pet food still recognizable today at a time mark morris was critical of pet foods for lacking Quality Ingredients and he wanted to make a superior product backed by Scientific Research he teamed up with canning manufacturer. Burton hill to fulfill his vision. The result became what we know today is science diet sold in veterinarian offices all across the country. But in 2013 the wall street journal reported hills was starting to see its profits decline because consumers no longer identified with their ingredients. Science diet has since refocused on rebranding their image as more natural creating new product lines and shying away from controversial in rendered ingredients the National Renders Association argues that theyre providing a necessary role when it comes to the recycling of animal carcasses. If there wasnt anywhere to put the animal waste from the human Food Industry where would it go in the earth in the air. In the ocean. It all has to go somewhere. We have a huge Quality Control problem meaning the quality of ingredients coming into the industry anything from potentially fabulous u. S. D. A. Inspected human grade all the way down to entirely rendered which is every piece of art you could ever imagine actually probably dont even want to think about the final result is used to manufacture hundreds of products everything from sofas to jam those is the fed foods cosmetics that the company is blending is recital they are great its together with synthetic by them and then arose to create a profitable quote complete and balanced diet that is then marketed to tell and in 100 years time we have successfully convinced an entire generation of pat lovers that why would you feed anything but dog food for cats looking at the rules that guide the pet Food Industry its easy to see how they are set up to benefit the corporations over the consumer. The regulators have created special terminology for packages assuming that consumers would be able to guess what they mean. Any product containing the words dinner nugget or formula only have to contain 25 percent actual meat any product labeled with only has to contain 3 percent me furthermore the socalled slaver rule a levels for any protein to be listed on the back it may be flavored as meat but in reality the back that contains the word flavor may contain little to no meat by using the key word flavor on the package the pet food could but does not have to contain any meat at all but its acceptable for the package to contain an image of a fresh stay green panels do display certain percentage of the protein percentages do not represent actual meat content in the product as protein come from a multitude of sources this raises the question if the average consumer knows that the terminology used on packages reveal the exact amounts of meats used in food trying to understand who exactly makes these rules and what their actual Legal Authority is leads to many different organizations the association of american feed control officials is a Nongovernmental Organization they have a model bill that that sets the standards in terms of ingredients nutrient levels package labeling in terms of ingredients as well for pet Food Companies to abide by each year members of africa come together to update their official publication which defines each ingredient thats allowed to go into pet food. Members of the major pet Food Companies it in the meetings as well below in their voice to be heard when it comes to what goes into pet food. So who is after i think if you look at our websites we have some very clear statements about the fact that after 0 is not a Regulatory Organization itself thats one thing important the 2nd is that asco doesnt approve products while we do as we deal with the ingredients in the Scientific Validation if you will of the ingredients that go. Into the food and then the actual claim that a manufacturer makes it is after all approved is probably not representing what but after itself would say f. D. A. Has worked closely with f. Go on the regulation of all animal feeds not just pet food i think the important thing to remember is f. D. A. Is a true Regulatory Authority were after 0 is an association of state feed controls for shows when you look at the manual i think you really begin to see how the interests of after the pet Food Industry a lie actually putting together a list of ingredients that you would want to see and thats whats that you would want your pets to eat and then forcing that on the industry theyve done it in reverse and basically just accepted the standards that the industry has been using for years and im quoting now use of the term or claim natural and pet through labels so if i want to use the word natural on my dog food label sure are the rules and im quoting this for bait im a feed or ingredient drives solely from plant animal or mind source either and its unprocessed state or having been subject to physical process heat process rendering purification extraction except it goes on and sensually these are all definitions of the antithesis of natural. Is hard to take so from somebody if you dont have something to replace. The words of this interview to. Market that maybe. 4 years or. So are going to you start selling drugs it will have some to put the money back. They just mean the way in life its almost been basically mccullers feast for us how on earth. Do you guys know what secret new Security Systems ive been seeing that. Jack me again. You see people getting all their cars and ill see you coming in the harness seems like theyll hurry up and run into the house like they dont want to they dont want to talk to your get your mail or anything like that. I just want to go. And do. Just try renaming. Give me. My son and theres doing drugs my nephews was still in drugs my sister just with doing drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse americas public enemy number one in the United States is drug abuse he started going after the users in the prison population sewer we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i was on the hill i increasingly became convinced that the war on drugs was a mistake there are countless number of people who are in prison for. Certain sins for minor minor offenders in the drug trade its a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in waves and saved by daddy as youre walking out of a business its just it doesnt get easier. In the lead a showdown between washington and tehran there is no regional ally to restrain the u. S. As worst tendencies with barbs treated and sanctions imposed what can stop the u. S. From sliding into yet another middle east war. I know that believe underground. The u. S. And iran trade accusations at the u. N. Security council as the other Member States call for calm. Stop selling crowd control weapons to hong kong over the recent protest crackdown but seeks to resume arms exports to saudi arabia despite the Bombing Campaign in yemen. And of the German Government admits it has lost track of around 160. 00 islamic extremists who travel to syria and iraq. The latest on these stories you can head to the dot com stay with us now though for the kaiser report talking about the stock market if youre watching in the u. K. More financial news