A catering business but before and it is this that is even if theyre catering businesses for Russian School children in the course of all its a lot of cold food you know it was just going around the world media in russia that labeled him that and theres no connections at all to the russian government theres no connections at all to the trumpet ministration the Truck Campaign or any of the other four people on completely unrelated and you know spurious charges that we all or has charge any of the other four people who have been died on tax charges so anything else so we have four indictments before this now we have these indictments of thirteen individuals ever betray the three entities and none of them have any any connection with the russian government or with any or the drug. Or any of the delusion at least its an offer that they were russians they were lively interest thousand and sixteen and they post. Something on facebook that americans could see it doesnt matter that ninety five percent of the european media was very broad hillary trump during that campaign and americans could read millions of pages of their stuff during their campaign thats not important what is important is that these thirty russians did it well let me. Make this see various court. Bloomberg he is a writer for bloomberg he used to be a deeper all russian journalist knowledge he leaves of broad writes about drugs or just like Marsha Gessen the difference is that he knows a thing or two about russian history and literature i like much i guess so heres what he wrote i am actually surprised i havent been indicted i am russian i was in the us in two thousand and sixteen and they published coolum screed a couple of both clinton and trump without registering as a russian h ok that goes to my next Point Alexander given what we just heard from my idea then Christopher Steele should be indicted as well hes a foreigner he wasnt registered as a Foreign Agent he didnt. Report to the federal Election Commission about what he was doing. This is a glaring absolutely law you dont know anything and we have to go to confession according to the actual in terms of its Dimitri Babich is the odd name fourteen for actually dissolved yes because people like to say it is crucial if you read the indictment there could be a very possible going to get really let me go back to the. Steel because i think its really important so the questions being answered i mean all the things that people have been indicted for all. Christopher steele has done he has a lot of feel he is into feet in the us election he has done so secretly he has been phoning up new spaces he has been publishing information in adult see it that. He hasnt registered as any kind of Foreign Agent so why hasnt he been indicted why is the resistance on the phone to the Justice Department to undone this is probably what i find most puzzling of all alexander is the trumps own d. O. J. And maybe its a slightly different situation with the f. B. I. With the d. O. J. Why isnt it moving there that was a mystery to me because its the troops ok that answers the truck every move talked about it plenty of time to this before trump has no power of his own administration hes hes certainly given away foreign and military policy his own Justice Department is pursuing him and you know this cabal of generals mcmaster maddest mcmasters and kelly keeps him in a little playpen and you know hes only real power is tweeting and evidently hes not allowed to do that whenever he wants as well well i mean its its an attempt to use Nineteenth Century legislation twenty first century. I mean in the Nineteenth Century maybe it was illegal to bring in pamphlets in favor of a lot of the king it is during the campaign now we leave it then electronically interconnected to what if i want my american friends to read my opinion on trump or on the i just posted on the internet i portico because he doesnt know twitter doesnt know borders actually makes you a criminal exactly but it makes me a criminal if that is what mr mubarak a well lets talk about election meddling a couple of days ago on the laura Ingram Program the former head of the cia james was lee was on and she asked a few questions about his reaction to the indictments and then she talked about election meddling but american election. Abroad lets take a look have we ever tried to meddle in other countrys elections oh probably. It was for the good of the system in order to avoid the communists from coming over for example in europe. In forty seven forty eight forty nine the greeks and italians we dont do that we dont mess around other people will. Only for very good dont do that dont for a. Gentleman who are good viewers that was the former head of the cia who wants to go first. Let me let me speak about here western media speaks about the former head of the head of the cia former cia could know you know if we use that language to use a boat to put out a. General form of the freedom caught up to that who say it solves its mr. Mr mubarak were coming after you which was actually true you know and hes not mad that hes not interfering in other countrys elections you know just somehow i think. That ukraine was the the crown jewel i mean looking for force regime illegal change there i wanted to react to that because you know they both chuckled in the. Jar dropping you know you youre accusing a foreign country and a very powerful one russia of doing something against your country without any evidence whatsoever beyond a troll farm ok and there is ample evidence mountains of evidence the United States middles in elections and has for decades in its probably doing so exactly right now. When i was in greece in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight when that was the. First greece. I was actually taken prisoner at the age of six and the people who carried out the u. S. Back to have. Where we used to live was taken over by a family from the u. S. Embassy so its not actually such a long time funny thing well i mean is it not i mean if you look at the entire segment is it you know is it the u. S. Does it its ok with anybody else does it isnt ok thats the double standard ok if you could very with me a little bit im going to run for a little bit of literature i know youre prepared i know yes i write so this is about the projection from the u. S. On to other countries like russia of what it does the guardian revealed u. S. Spy operation that manipulates social media this is from two thousand and eleven the u. S. Military the pentagon is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread proamerican propaganda and it specifically notes that the discovery that the u. S. Military is doing this with fake online personalities sock puppets could also encourage other governments private corporations and government organizations going to also hear that when there was a program with on twitter and they did does the same thing with ease of e. Q. But im very much on the seas this is the u. S. Message that what weve just heard alleged there theres no connection to the next one more one more minute before she has a right g h c q this is the british version of the National Security agency does the same thing overwhelming evidence. That we have a database from Carnegie Mellon using the u. S. Governments own data theyve meddled in other elections eighty one times only up to two thousand not counting coups and regime changes and of course the famous how could we forget this picture Time Magazine russia the americans openly helped yeltsin in a rigged election keep our yanks to the rescue they were quite proud about their meddling back then they even made a movie spinning boris congratulating the ninety six million eighty six dont forget to vote face. You know well i think its just. Double standards you know but you know that its interesting if youre right but they dont see it that way they cant see this far away from their face when it comes to issues like this well you know the problem is also with oh elite you know the response of rush and he is usually you are using oss in your internal struggle well for to tell you terry and i do it would you with global explorations which is no rain in the United States there is no difference between foreign and domestic policy and your Foreign Policy is part of your domestic importance so you know they were trying to go in there just when you go to a short break and after that short break well continue what it was gushing on those thirteen russian state with our. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guests of the world of politics or business im show business ill see you then. 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Last couple of days we had secretary of state Rex Tillerson in ankara trying to smooth some feathers i mean both countries realize that theyre at a crisis point here after a three hour meeting with the turkish president. There is the impression at least that some kind of agreement was made i dont get that impression the way it was what was released here what was the point of the meeting and what is the main bone of contention here because this is these are nato allies and theyre going toe to toe no to no this. Country syria were neither one of them should be this was obviously for washington to hold hands trying to reassure him it was their over their farming of the y. P. G. On turkish border. The kurds and. A large chunk basically claiming it as a. Of their own of syrian territory again much of it right on the turkish and and the iraqi border. So turkey is extremely upset about this there were these optics didnt do much because even as tillerson was arriving there was the announcement that the pentagon is going to be giving another five hundred fifty Million Dollars this year to arm and otherwise support these forces that hes very insistent on but there has to be a Tipping Point here deem i mean everyone is in is invested enormously in this operation here all of the branch of unbelievably its called the invasion of the invasion of syria here i mean the United States is not making it better and its saying the pentagon is saying it will stay in syria indefinitely against International Law here something has to go one way or another well what happened was that the states indeed kind of provoked their team to move in and thats was that was said by all foreign minister Sergei Lavrov who said because of the support of the kurds a lot of the kurds and you know this Border Security forces the americans started talking about them or they didnt tell the turks didnt. Provide a pretext and basically i dont even understand why mr two was on this talking to. Because god has been saying the same thing says to him dont know about the United States in the last two weeks he accused the United States off helping terrorists you know so you can see how desperately the u. S. Is trying to preserve its relationship with turkey and its all of the background of this is that we have an upcoming meeting in istanbul with iran turkey and russia it seems to me everyone is basically checking out the terrain here ok because the United States is certainly not going to quote you are not cooperating with police in this regard when it comes to the kurds they it seems to me its patently obvious that the u. S. Wants a statelet it wants a partition of the israelis wanted the saudis are. Going to go. And they want their own and they and we have to look at the occupied territory where the u. S. Has if this is where the oil and gas fields are for syria again no money for reconstruction ok so everyone is looking at the horizon and i think hes looking for maybe hes going into the grand bazaar go ahead these are two equally invasions of syria to nato allies which are working at the moment at cross purposes theyre both dangerous for syria and i think thats important point to remember as for him he has to try and balance the fact that hes now in conflict with the United States so he is now trying to get some kind of arrangement with the russians and the ukrainians to try and balance out the am not really that you are is it being what he proposed that the turks and merican his Work Together militarily when the americans are embedded with the kurds i mean thats not going to. Get out there this is the problem at the same time that hes trying to leverage the russians against the americans hes trying to use the americans to leverage against the russians so that he can extract concessions in syria can we which exactly hes quite clueless may be right just a few days ago when the reports about the turkish army using chemical weapons. Appeared what was the reaction from the spokesperson for the u. S. Led coalition. U. S. Coalition has no information on this before when there were there was just a rumor about the Syrian Government using chemical weapons immediately they had was that while they have they had a lot of rhetoric for something they never ever happened they didnt even send inspectors there that they were so sure that this information was correct went to turkey somehow they preferred to be silent this is the interesting thing to mark is that we have to look at the internal dynamics of turkey and everyones perceived american stance is very popular. Domestically for him so this is again another part of the spectrum that hes playing it i mean he first of all he accused the us of a coup trying to overthrow his government u. S. Back to under the bed probably the only coup that i believe the u. S. Hasnt been in recent times but its an enormously popular with his islamist based and their bases as long as that top of that hes turned his country into basically the whole day resort for all of the jihadi across the world who are been barking into syria for the last six years if he suddenly got does an about face turns away from al qaeda turns away from regime change in syria hes got to deal with them on his own sort of the is there any also house you deal with alex is that again going back to this. Meeting with the ball with the iranians the russians and the turks is that. What everyone is doing is want to make sure that he is part of some kind of Peace Process were two countries russia and iran can play a forceful role an instrumental role because the United States is the spoiler ok its the spoiler country its not interested in any kind of conflict resolution thats the other kind of gamble that he has that you have but hes also trying to use hes deals with the russians to extend his influence into syria hes now sending troops into syria this utilitarian occupation in syria with the us then he said hes sending troops to provence there struck to the syrian. Patrols openly with all collide and thats thats thats without thats the mecca of jihad right now but exactly and of course hes doing that using these arrangements that hes made with the russians and the iranians to relate to legitimize that there is another side because of course that the russians are they say what we need the cooperation of. Have been theres genuine. Theres a lot of chatter. That the israelis are looking for a real real meaningful scary conflict with the iranians also with hezbollah or do you see this is a part of a puzzle piece right now because you know that would. For planners for american planners in the pentagon it would be nice to have a foothold in syria if an operation like that were to be pulled off i prefer to stay on the ground the fact lets just look at the facts israel has been firing missiles from the territory of a sovereign state in the condition of a foreign intervention of the civil war several times or one hundred. Times in a look at exactly. What a victim or a huge terrorist act three years ago and no one in the west even expressed condolences you know israel has been occupying lebanon since one nine hundred eighty two and that was the reason why it has but what came into being it didnt have not existed before and now israel which has been applauded. For intervention in syria is concerned about its security and the increased influence of iran. But. A very. Cold message that the syrians will start defending their airspace to what degree that will be put into play we dont know i mean it certainly sent a very powerful message we dont know to what degree there. The russians or the remains were involved in that decision might i kinda think it was assad saying hey this is my country stop doing it as mark said you know. Look you know weve had this media hype this week you know michael war dream has come true all the western media were exactly where the former head of the cia thinks im going