So to speak and of course we had an influx a tremendous influx in a short period of time until research seated in sort of good order and through that process. The most young people who tried to come to europe and germany really had reason to flee their own countries and in the process in. More and more young people did not come because they had to flee but because they read wanted to come to europe and to germany and especially to enjoy the opportunities that that have risen in germany for a long period of time. We had one of these processes in the sixtys and early seventys mainly the sixtys when a couple of when about two to three Million Immigrants if you want to call it. From turkey from spain but then from turkey came into germany because we needed to. This time it is not an invitation to young people to come to germany but there was a resistance and there is a resistance within the book religion to have for immigration to germany because people were worried and this is one of the issues that if t. Is playing on the National Character of germany might be changed to some way but mr been called i would agree with you that the a. B. C. Is perhaps exploiting this issue too much but dont you think that part of the reason why they have been allowed to exploit it is also that the government hasnt had a full discussion and open discussion of this extremely touchy subject because its not just a moral issue as chancellor merkel likes to present it its also a social issue its an issue about how your country is going to look like for decades and decades and i when i say look like i dont mean the ask nick aspect of it but its a serious decision and its a serious policy change dont you think that that issue perhaps should have been discussed a little bit morbid the society so that people wouldnt feel that they do use migrants are being forced on them ever since the first measure of. We are discussing it. Its not that people are not as that thats maybe an impression in moscow but theres a very broad debate which has now subsided because an increasing part of the population is understanding that there is a new economic and as social problem and social question is usually have a condom our own content so you cannot sit separate social and moral basic small issues well mr been called we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments statement. Its. Been twenty forty you know bloody revolution two to correct the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be increasingly violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it your fellow hiccup what if i mean you are liz put me in the. School in the middle of the fall the ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty fourteen. Those who took part in this today over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other calls that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. In america a College Degree requires a great deal. Paying a decades long debt. Studying so hard it requires trust to. Go through humiliation to enter an elite society. And paci dead some. Times quite literally. Want other true colors of universities in the us. Are. Welcome back to worlds apart but were getting called at that trench on one politician and former Prime Minister all six and he must have been called just before the break we were talking about lead a ship and Angela Merkel has been in power for quite a long time almost as long as lodge an absolute sense that one of the benefits of staying in power for so long is obviously the experience but on the other hand there are multiple studies suggesting that one people stay in power for that long their perception of reality changes in many important ways youve been a Political Animal for most of the alive how long is too long for a head of state. Who has no head. Has now three terms had three terms. If i would have asked her if she would have asked me i would say be very careful was trying to get to force one the same problem arose was. Cool and see the force term he had was only really accepted because he heads to two different blocks of terms. Chance to decide. It divided germany and chancellor in a united germany. But if i were to. Able to reform our constitution on that issue i would look very much to countries that have limited the election of person individual to the top government position like in the United States where just one reelection is possible you can also have two maria lections but if you have a limitation then the government is almost forced the by the situation to think about the continuation through electing. People in the next term. You have more mobility now Angela Merkel and put in may have very different personalities but the political trajectories do you have certain overlaps both have been in power for quite some time and both now deal with the countrys. Going press following changes in germany its the reintegration off migrants in russia its economic and hopefully political reforms do you think established leaders like that can change with the times in politics can you teach an all dog new that they dont change they have a political leader that has been in office a very long time usually feels that he has done everything well so he could continue. And hes not very receptive to the idea that not the leader but for the general condition has changed much should change in response to the change in society you know that ties between russia and germany have ever very long and perhaps a very complicated history and they certainly a big hit in two thousand and fourteen after the events in crimea and more broadly in ukraine do you think we will still see any improvement between our countries while i. Live to move put and for that matter are in office so will we have to wait for somebody to replace them to a certain extent and. Both countries are interested and should be interested in relations. To have two or three objectives the most objective is to maintain peace. Jobless of conflicts may arise the second issue is. Exchange and Technological Exchange but is specially trade trading between and there is a lot of trade third there is and must should be an offer to understand the differences. As have always been the relationship between russia and germany we have different histories way beyond back we have different philosophies we have different attitudes towards government and we have differences too. In the extent of participation of the population. In government issues so we should learn why this is so and we should understand now you mentioned the issue of trade and i know that you come from east germany just last month we had leaders from five lands and is germany coming out with a statement saying that they are opposed sanctions against russia because they view them as both inefficient and unfair that point was that is germany is paying a much higher price for those sanctions than west germany do you think they have a point and do you think that voices are heard in berlin well i dont think you should put too much emphasis on these statements do have certain sanctions and we have considered them well and it is very difficult and of course vice versa would also russia would also try to influence the behavior of germany and say restraint in trade and. Commit forms of communication. Im not a very good friend of sanctions but there are always some issues that one or the other country is trying by rate of sanctions to change the attitude of the other party. And i dont think you can do it way of as to the size of germany german states in terms of population all of them the five of them have as much population the same size of bavaria. So that the five important but they certainly do not form. Germany. From more so european. Activities and the trade field now you mentioned the sanctions one of the purposes of sanctions is that to change the behavior most of the german sanctions originate in russia as perceived behavior in crimea americal believes the borders should not be changed and perhaps i think on some level even Vladimir Putin who will agree with her on that but the im sure you understand that for russia in crimea it was not only a matter of principle it was a matter of Strategic Security the expansion of nato the possibility of losing the the base in the black sea and those when you deal with Strategic Security its very difficult to uphold principles even if you agree with that do you think russia could have played any other way alternatively do you think that russia is likely to. Repeat what has happened in crimea. This is a very difficult question that i would have to say youre followed because it reaches far beyond the issue of of sanctions that we have chests discussed. Sanctions could be could be justified im just. As a business reservation in relationship to. The developments in ukraine or another border states. And as in the feeling of youre not germany alone of europe the development in. Your career in your crane is considered to be unfortunate and now is the only the only way to end to put this. To put this to russia is not by just simply arguing but also. By. Introducing. Corporations or. So solutions of conflict in this field so far they havent been very successful. That well you know that the crimean issue at least for russia is closely linked to nato its is for the expansion reach traces its roots back to german reunification and the promises. That vera made to moscow back down and were not necessarily saying is no kind of promises have made that prevent were not carried through while it is believed at least if this is an opinion in moscow. Russia was promised that nato will not expand to the east following the reunification of germany. Has not expanded towards. Unless countries in the east as to be permitted to join but. Such has not expanded well i think mr gorbachev therefore of the last president and the first president of the soviet union even in his memoirs stated quite clearly that this is not how it was perceived at least in russia many perceive that there was an explicit promise that nato would not keep moving towards russian borders and maybe that has been a misunderstanding but rather than arguing about that i want to ask you whether you believe germany has any special overall in solving the issue here in ukraine in helping Russia Ukraine others to come to certain accommodation or whether you believe this is just a European Security issue that has to be handled by all well. I dont think in this particular case since one of the basic. And dominating purposes of the European Union is to keep the peace thats from thats from where the union idea started after the Second World War and so if there is the route to rid the relationship to your crane if there are these differences basic differences developed having developed in the eastern thought. It is a european issue and germany is acting was in this european understanding we have no special nose we dont see we have special responsibility here the european responsibility is the governing idea mr been called three have to leave it there i really appreciate you being on the show today on to our viewers please keep the conversation going and our social media pages for me i hope to see you again same place same time here on a well to part. I. Think. Yes some new solution in the spokesman came. To sneeze at the beginning from both of them which the business of the new coalition is a. Little bit some of it is just almost a trial of. Saddam for us for on the street to get to some odd time all this. Well. Im. Sure. One of the deadliest campus shootings in u. S. History seventeen people are did a run to a high school in florida and spoken to a student who was in the school thats the tragedy of. It just like. The last is like i dont know what they were like so like. I just dont think theyre going to school its going to be like the same up there with. The u. S. Secretary of state is Meeting Church hes president downs america begins to reach its rhetoric in the conflict between the kurds in syria. Raise your hand if you would rather private american citizens. Products or services. Not of your thank you for. The u. S. Intelligence Committee Warns its citizens against using chinese made smartphones but the warning comes from organizations and for them their own wiretapping controversy. Over your tuning in from around the world this hour welcome to moscow and to r. T. International my names oneill we begin with the aftermath. In the United States seventeen people were killed in a Florida High School and at least a dozen others are reported injured video emerged online which seems to be from one of the classrooms while the attack was under way please be warned it contains upsetting scenes. I shot inside the school in the city of parkland public students were seen running to safety this video was taken while the gunman was still on the attack its understood the killer set off a fire alarm to draw people into the open to cause as many injuries as possible armed officers rapidly swarming the campus before leaving pupils on stuff to safety. We managed to speak to Police Elaine nick one of the students in the school at the time of the shooting in parkland. Like about to leave school as opposed to in years before the bell rang so poster and. So i cut the file out of and were starting to a low clouds but the school of the bullets. And high because its not a fire drill it was called grad and at first like everybody still thought its going to be a life they dream of that they do in the schools but then we just here are the people second talking about life theres like in the next. Someone already got killed and this is serious. As i had all those still be on the floor like so nobody can see us and all that stuff like not to be on our phones and. Its. Also when we realized this for real and we would just like for it waiting and sample and they came and they told us like like thirty minutes later this all goes well everything was clear around but like were not going to let you out like right now because weeks to its old School Everybody was just trying to reach out of their friends and their family. How much harm i just like feel very kind of lost because like i dont know what will i call it sort of like so stuff because like its just never happened so me and i just dont think that going to school is going to be like the same up there with fun because i feel like knowledgeable clause in the building of the shooting was you have pictures from the scene there showing the distress of those touched by the tragedy here is how the deadly incident unfolded. He saw my dead body there on the floor and blood over on the floor so how many people like five on the third floor. To look like students it was one teacher and four students. So the do call the fire drill you want to side boom boom boom boom marriage gosh i doze firecrackers but after the last hour no amount. Could come in bringing a gun to shoot at school you like started taking a family i love e p never know a biggish are killed theres no were not good describer you feel because at that moment youre wondering if its my kid easy or casey say. I want to shut up i say this is a catastrophic. And on the eve of a catastrophic game for our common history its devastating im sick to my stomach we need to talk about it i woke up this morning and i said this is happening in my backyard this is my backyard. This is video of the Florida Shooting suspect arriving at county jail police have identified the suspect as Nicholas Cruz a nineteen year old former student of the school who was expelled for disciplinary reasons and some new details about the suspect hover merged linking him to a White Nationalist group people are police said that he was armed with a semi automatic rifle and had multiple magazines as well where cruz has been charged with seventeen kinds of pre meditate. Murder students after school describe the suspect troubled its been reported teachers were warned about him some time ago given his enthusiasm for firearms in his free time the f. B. I. Ses investigated Nicholas Cruz for a Youtube Comment on a documentary about the one nine hundred sixty six Texas University shooting it said quote im going to be a professional School Shooter in the u. S. Has a long history of School Shootings there have been two hundred seventy five incidents since twenty thirty ridge of nearly a week eighteen shootings have been reported in school so far this year alone heres a look at some of the most serious cases in the last decade. So over three hundred million guns is enough for every person in the United States to have a gun its insane and you know we license cars you cant just get in a car and drive it but you can get a gun and shoot it you dont need any training you dont need any licensing. And a lot of states now you can carry them. Undercover illegally theres a lot of nineteen is in this country about how guns make you safer. And they evidence is all to the contrary. Moving on the u. S. Secretary of state is set to finish his relations building to are of the middle east in turkey Rex Tillerson has arrived there for a much anticipated meeting following a souring in ties with accra that closed door talks been ongoing for more than three hours it comes as the nato allies have been at all of those over Kurdish Forces in syria but washingtons rhetoric seems to be contradicting itself arties killam up and has been following developments. In the lead up to tillerson za visit we heard a number of words from u. S. Officials indicating support for the turkish government which is a member of nato and saying that their security concerns are legitimate this is what weve heard from u. S. Leaders nato has only one nation and one of our allies. And insurgency inside its own borders and nato and america stand with turkey on a good image should curity concerns we have never given heavy arms to th