And people and then there are other people who look more soberly at. That is the key to creating with who. I mean. The challenge and this is why its you know its a difficult tightrope for tree some may and i think pretty much every western politician to walk is on the one hand the sheer scale of china means that you know its role economically politically is undeniable and has to be reckoned with we need to be trading with engaging with china and on the other hand it has its own Strategic Interests and were you know here in the u. K. Or back home in my canada were naive if we dont think that it is also advancing its Strategic Interests in the world were naive if we always think that they align with ours and so its always a difficult i think you know penetrating analysis that has to be done but how do we balance those two sometimes conflicting objectives before we get too big a specifics does china need to trade with britain some saying the middle class china would have trouble even fulfilling the does dreams of chinas growing middle clubs little be able to export goods of the world in ten twenty years i mean this is a good question so you know in this specific case of britain you know could china get by without trade with britains sure it could be written today only just economy where the fifth largest economy will be export about three percent of our total exports to china and its basically automobiles and tourism which is Chinese Tourists coming to london and shopping there are coming to our universities and studying here. And there in lies the giant opportunity for British Business of course i mean the skys the limit with with how much that could be increased but from a chinese perspective you know the absolute value of trade with britain i think is far less important then having an ally within the west that has you know for example been the first major western power to get on board with the Asian InfrastructureInvestment Bank just a big washington goes away. In washington and again this is this type of right it is not easy to decide when do we need to weigh our Strategic Interests highly or as a priority and senator lieberman member the canon is not you know and so again we walk this tightrope and we dont say no and you know people who look at the other multilateral Investment Banks whether its the world bank. Or the i. M. F. You know they soberly see that there is there is good in having a new kid on the block with a new innovative model a lot of people agree that theres just too much bureaucracy in overhead within some of these other Multilateral Development banks and so you know we cant we sometimes we may just sort of sometimes we make the mistake of assuming that you know chinas motives are always nefarious and that is just as naive as believing that it doesnt have a strategic interest you know when it acts in the world the truth is a balance of both and its always about in the case trying to figure out which is well in favor of the United States as an retaliated against David Camerons decision when George Osborne was the joy to be what do you think just just for a second what do you think donald trump would do to mr trudeau if the cat of the suddenly decided to be like britain is. That thats a good and sober quest warren kind of you know. And the politics of it is because nafta is at risk in north america probably the trudeau government isnt going to do all that much to make more enemies within washington until they get past nafta and then maybe they have some flexibility to go their own way i mean i think that the challenge within the United States and the opportunity for china is that i dont really think that the trumpet ministration does have. A very well thought out approach for how its going to deal with what really is the big game of the twenty First Century which is. Whereas twenty five years ago there was really only one political economy which was rules based free market economic ideology are arguably and i know that im simplifying the case because i only have a few minutes but now there is very strongly an alternative model which is state driven a hybrid economy. You know one model is promoted through multilateral free trade agreements like the Transpacific Partnership from which donald trump withdrew the United States and the other model is promoted by unilateral initiatives that arent rules based but are primarily interest based like the built in Road Initiative and that one is moving it tourism has refused point blank to endorse the built in Road Initiative in a practical sense it is an ambition to develop infrastructure and trade linkages with about seventy countries in asia in africa in europe and in the middle east about thirty countries have officially signed on to the one belt one Road Initiative and and at least declared theres about nine hundred billion dollars of Infrastructure Investments that have been put on the table and the broad strategic objective for china is to reorient the balance of global trade to wards eurasia and if we think about the Twentieth Century that really the balance of trade with atlantic it was between europe and the americas. China sees the twenty First Century balance shifting to eurasia and they see both the opportunity and the strategic benefit of driving that rebalance historical president s is a war it is a b. Then england or persian empire i mean we were that the original silk road which if you look at the models and the maps that beijing puts out today its basically the current built in roads duplicating the original silk roads which were both the overland trade route sort of through what is now pakistan all the way to europe and then sort of the along the ocean coast trade routes through singapore up of the course of the indian ocean and ultimately into the mediterranean through through the through the persian gulf with us but of course now that there is a may is not endorsing it well its all going to get out now are all going to fold up up what do you think the people in beijing are going to think when they read in the papers that to raise them a refuses to endorse their project. I mean i suppose its its a setback from a from a chinese perspective from a beijing perspective its also an opportunity. If if theresa may had come on board and said yes we are with it then they would be touting that as heres further evidence that everyone else should be a part of this this is a legitimate project this is not china trying to be you know saying its illegitimate. Well again theres this there is this you know always an open question about what are the Strategic Interests. And do they align with us what is the conversation being had now the tree some a has said no were not going to get on board is. China phobia is alive and well in the west right there is this kind of hysteria that everything were trying to do has some nefarious out here your motive we had joining in the way of doing Good Business president ial campaign after all what he said about you know we did hear it but the reality is that and i dont want to percentage is on this is only going to be really known hindsight but you know a lot of the investment a lot of the development that is going to happen that has happened and is going to happen under belt and road is going to be Good Business its going to be about Building Energy infrastructure so that we can build manufacturing within africa middle east other parts of asia and thats going to be good for the people who benefit from it you can see here what youre saying just there for just how if you look at the wastelands off to kill a to the first stage of the union the waistlines of the midwest or if you go ten miles north of this studio here in Central London and you see the destruction of even some service. Offices let alone factories and so on youre talking about massive infrastructure you think a different planet so i guess lets be clear that belton road is and this is where we get into you know whats your strategic interest this is a this is an initiative that you know chinese president xi jinping has conceived and is promoting to strengthen chinas economic linkages in the world its not his plan for how the whole world lifts and gets better and to the extent that the road succeeds in sort of shifting. From a Twentieth Century where trade was atlantic focused to the twenty First Century where its eurasian focused there is no question that along sort of the current trade routes theres going to be losers and would you say you would detect the strategic problems being debated perhaps here and why to a win in davos britains woman in beijing investor barbara wood wood said the u. K. Saw itself as a natural bugner of belton rude to see being too cool to dick to raise a maze leave the thoughts of egypt. So in some ways actually the u. K. At least theoretically would be a natural partner if we look at the strength that china has to contribute to building the road a lot of it is around industrial capacity the chinese economy produces too much steel for domestic demand but if we can create demand in all these other parts of the world. Thats an advantage that we have china has probably more experience now building mass infrastructure whether its high speed rail or airports than any other country in the planet whereas the u. K. Has real experience in project management in the financing of mega projects and if the opportunity was given for them to be involved in a managerial in a finance capacity a lot of these projects everyone who is well served by these problems still had a raise of able to stand in judgment so they would it would have maybe a billion dollars into this well i think that the the practical problem right now is that if you look at the work that has been done and under built and rode about ninety percent of it has been delivered and managed and financed by the chinese partner so there is a great rhetoric out of beijing about how this is something that is multilateral no open to everyone and theres a reality at least so far on the ground where it is primarily it seems for the benefit of chinese industry and so i think that there are real imbalances like that that you give trees in may and people who are more cautious of boat. 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Oh no appetite i mean for. Conflict is very very low these days and publics are much more eager to see economic improvement than they are to. Actually get into a fight with a neighbor or or with other powers in the world. Across europe municipalities are taking their water supply back from private companies who p. M. A. To me to people this is the simple song alone even some company elsewhere they invite private companies to take over the utilities many bought a telescope. A laxness you guys you got to be well and the going to be cool. I been this is a stick with them out. For you man but the lift hill brought up locals are ready to stand up for the basic human right of access to water its about water but its also over much more than war its about the hurt and the redistribution of our west. And dare debt downwards we won or lost. It. And even it didnt keep them good. Breaking news on auty international Russias Defense Ministry confirms the identity of the pot at the jet was shot. Revealing his last moments. Video you can see appeared online of what appears to be the russian pilots final. Terrorists. Also this hour the shocking revelations of a forgotten city once victorious and its liberation from islamic states now left for dead and in ruins correspondent video look at how life. I challenge any member of parliament to live in the conditions were currently living in here i bet they are even afraid of entering this area. Live with me. Today thanks so much for joining us. And we start with breaking news here on r. T. Russias Defense Ministry has confirmed the identity of the pilot killed in syria on saturday he was made philip roth the ministry has described him as a hero were going to show you video that appears to show the pilots in a fight with syrian jihad a plane was shot down we do have to warn you you may find some of the images distressing. But lets go live now to what did a culture of a joining me in a studio might do you know what else do we know so far about this pilots fate while the son very fired video that you just saw appeared online shortly after the incident and it shows the last moments of the pilot life now from what we can see here on the video the pilot had waited for the terrorists to get closer to him and only after that he detonated taker and they taking his own life and also if we didnt capture he given a message to shout that he was doing this for his own colleagues that were fighting alongside him as the Fence Ministry has already confirmed all these details of the details of the last moments of his life how he was pointing to the very end. Major oman philip both fulton so the very last moment of his life against an overwhelming number of terrorists he was bubbly and surrounded when its there was Movement Towards him diverse enough so its ok isnt large with a hand grenade. Russias Defense Ministry has confirmed him. From the Ministry Said that he was an experienced pilot and it wasnt his first time serving in syria now before that he was for several years in the region of russias far east it was also part of a dozen successful military operations now the pilots plane was shot down on saturday near the province which is located in the North Western part of syria which is still controlled by the latest incarnation of the terrorist group and other militants now the pilot was trying to keep the airplane the aircraft in the air as long as he could then he managed to eject from the aircraft but then he found himself over whelmed by terrorist he is the weapon was found with magazine and two others banned now shortly after that an unverified video appeared online showing militants taking selfies with the pilots body and also being on the debris of the crashed plane russia has already reacted to this incident carrying out trying in that particular area and the Ministry Said that over thirty militants were killed as a result of these strikes. Over there bringing us the latest on the flights over russia paula. Thousands of bodies the chapter of mosuls victorious liberation in iraq has closed. Another was opened. The grim reality of recovery in the once told islamic state. Warning it does contain which is of a very distressing nature. How many bodies have you removed since you started working in this area approximately five hundred are there any more yes in houses and all their odds. Are that i dont i challenge any member of parliament to live in the conditions we are currently living in here i bet they are even afraid of entering this area they have no idea how horrible the smell is or how critical the medical situation is. We havent received any kind of aid since things finished in the seven months ago on one occasion did they receive a small box of food problems no food nothing. Earlier our Senior Correspondent what was in the studio it was witness to the battle unfolding in mosul and shared what he experienced. Seven months since the battle of mosul ended theyre still digging up peoples bodies and here theres no end in sight i mean these rescuers work every day just this time we we film them and whats more you know we cant obviously show our viewers everything but this footage in particular is very distressing because its always so when it when it comes to children but i was there when these bodies had just begun to rot and i dont the gull ever forget it was the smell it was beyond sickening beyond north you know there were areas entire districts in mosul where you could hardly breathe properly Mother Nature in seven months of job but the smell hasnt gone its still there its just isnt this bad on the surface truly the real heroes the people doing the digging the people the rescuers that are sifting through all this all this wreckage and pulling out these bodies theres so desensitized you can see theyre not even wearing breathing mosques or even even rags but then again theyre paid pennies to do this hard work because we see jobs are scarce in moves as are standing buildings. Just describe the traumatic in her renders experience. And youve outlined lots of difficulties but were there any other problems that were highlighted when you were that well theres still a huge problem and that is unexploded bombs and theyre mixed with all the wreckage the rubble the clothes the bodies the