december means that they are consigning many. left right but importantly there's must've problems with this system so sometimes people the payments are in a real. sometimes a way so that means this government is prepared for people with phenomena in january and february and i'm going to try and use that place to stop that happen and in fairness the conservative party had its annual conference this year and men just did appear to make concessions to jeremy corbyn socialist politics which we covered after the general election where tourism a lost her majority in parliament we had our first food bank in the country opened in my local hospital and instead of the being a protest outside saying this is wrong why are people be in a makeshift hospital with non nutrition related diseases they celebrated it. if they had drinks and that should. you know that put a band-aid recycle in the fly fly. into song with a you know i would i if you salivate because this government is gonna come painted discrimination against the polish and say it's a i've spoken spay polo since committed suicide and they start to outside the job center and the onset of universal credit one man must absolutely everything including his family he had no shoes on his face the little activities that we've been doing all the way the government we hold him accountable it's because a group of black child and girl who spend all their time collated information about the deaths and destruction caused by this government it's about people like me are right for the paper for the blog you challenge people all the time about these issues it's about your side daypack who put their lives and their freedoms on the line to stand in front and sit in front of charms because they will not listen to peaceful protesters in a real large segment of population about twenty percent. and one of the main targets of this government's attacks on society have reveal stare at each and. you know we're suffering. a massive because of our rights remove all. the income that we need to live on. which has led to enormous suffering and many deaths in the thousands but you know don't go down cast i mean it's horrible going to do horrible things but you know we're strong together. and that this is going to end we're going to get rid of this government. it's going to it's been seven years a really horrible sadness the united nations have found they're guilty of grave and systemic human rights abuses against people who have created a human catastrophe those are the actual words on the government's rations about was simply to deny it's happening but some like britain's parliamentary private secretary to the chancellor of the exchequer philip hammond rode back from saying things aren't happening these sanctions are quite a blunt instrument they're not really specifically they don't incentivizing people to work perhaps as well as they should be doing that was like a murder weapon well it's a crude phrase but it's essentially describes a situation where it's not being applied evenly across the country that's the m.p.u. slammed one of britain's greatest film directors ken loach arguing that what happened in his palme d'or winning film i daniel blake just isn't happening here is the star of that film on the disappearance of david gore the government minister responsible for welfare reform not turning up to an emergency debate about welfare reform they pushed this mantra that basically it's all about getting you back to work you know the six weeks wait for the money you know it's about getting you back to work getting used to well you know when you get a job you have to wait six weeks for your pay and all that you know it always pushes that we all responsibility carrot and stick and they fail to see that this is lives that are talking about here in for him not to turn up fall for it to pay for a vote is a disgrace really i mean you know have the courage of your convictions and stand up and be counted but british governments have been doing things they should arguably know are wrong for a long time according to indian politician and former u.n. diplomats just the roar thirty five million indians died in totally unnecessary famines because of british policy that the british had an active philosophy that they will not intervene in famines not. when the free market principles had to apply number to mouth who's in logic said of the land couldn't support the population that was supposed to support it then let people die and number three was a victorian principle though should not spend money that was not budgeted for so all these grounds the british approach was not to help and famines and where india had traditionally had a culture of charity with the rulers people in times of drought and other kinds of agrarian distress what we saw with the british was a policy in which people were callously allowed to die and what is worse when the british could be exported green from the very places that people were starving in in order to fill the markets in london equally appalling when somebody tried to help they were prevented from doing so and i've recounted instances in which even a few kindly englishman would essentially threatened with deportation back home if they help the people who were dying of starvation. he'd been told famine four point three million people killed on the explicit on the day bases of explicit decisions made by winston churchill the wartime prime minister and approaching that scale of carnage this year was of course yemen suffering from british support the saudi arabia the latest figures off the outbreak tell us that there are about eight hundred fifty thousand suspected cases of cholera and the death toll has crossed two thousand one fourth of these cases are little children. in addition the whole situation of nutrition is extremely wadding we have two million children who are suffering from acute malnutrition off these close to three hundred eighty five thousand children are suffering from severe malnutrition which puts them at a high risk of death almost seven million yemenis are facing severe food insecurity which simply means they don't know where their next meal will come from activists like me there benjamin of code pink did try and join the seventeen to stop the carnage we are in fighting very hard to stop us sales to saudi arabia because we think it goes against us law as well to have one senator who says yes we should keep selling weapons to the saudis as atrocious and it's not only for what they're doing in yemen i think we should put into question not just the sale of weapons but the whole alliance that the u.s. the u.k. and the western again democracies i put in quotation marks because how can you consider yourself a democracy if you are arming the very country that is responsible for spreading the extremism that we supposedly are fighting against but nothing really changed when it came to british defacto support for killing in yemen just as nato nation mainstream media continue to be one sided on iran syria and the country with the most oil on earth venezuela is near liberal opposition would be openly championed by britain's state mandated b.b.c. joining two of the seventeen who start at the violence in this country tolerate. an opposition call for the violent overthrow of the government to call the military to rise up a media corps. so let's say the b.b.c. calling for a coup against the government in whitehall and the prime minister in ten downing street of course not yes there is violence on both sides but i would suggest that most of the violence comes from something that has never. going away and that is monopolies that control seventy percent of the capital and economic power and venezuela wanting to get rid of a government that is not a socialist government it's a social democratic there's done some very interesting and quite. significant things for poor people who were guarded in the pasta as white south africans used to regard the majority in the country and as for the most pressing issue of twenty seventeen the environment it's very sad because it's horrible thing you know extreme measures and to have a president who doesn't believe in climate change and on the climate change is very frightening and people have to speak up and we have to take matters into our own hands and things like interests that provide us and. do whatever we can to. note that consumer boycotts are arguably the real way to affect change is one of the most revolutionary politicians in british history nigel for rudd you know as well we caught up with the ukip firebrand on a day like many we may see in twenty eighteen when when the u.k. government was arguably rowing back from the decisive vote against new liberalism that was the brics it referendum today's a great day for westminster it's a great day for the political class great day for goldman sachs great day for most international business because effectively what the prime minister is saying is we're going to stay a full member effectively of the european union for a further two years and it's a massive two fingers up to the seventeen point four million poorly educated unwashed coaches that voted for bracks coming up after the break why could thousands of people in britain be unjustly imprisoned this christmas. levels reach record highs in u.k. jails we put justice on trial and speak to the u.k.'s cedillo jobs let richard bergen in a special investigation that's all coming up in part two of going on the ground. when you don't. see. what they did it could be. what they did not through only ten spaces. let alone. said. no turbans it is the state that. you speak french. that said. let's send. this busy cut up to. about a hundred rhythm i did not cut i didn't know me mother. came at the end of the school but you know me a little more to be still slot. machine of slave to your post to. be a dozen united guys you know some of the problems on sunday the left about a number of people died doing something as innocent the whole. time and most will go down. as become a hot item. criminon would commit most of the medical needs to. some loose mccown somehow almost all of the most stolen and they got. to. come in the night while doing one of the for them though i doubt that it. welcome back we're outside the site of one of the worst in history while no one is likely to go to prison for what. john mcdonnell called social murder could the same political decisions he suggests killed those in the grand tragedy and prison officers in british prisons. special report now investigates prisoners who could be released from the underfunded and understaffed prison service this christmas. imprisonment for public protection or peace or reform of into terminate sentence brought in by the labor government in two thousand and five they were designed to protect the public from serious offenders crimes did not merit a life sentence. also began to be given out for less serious offenses resulting in more population over spill in already overcrowded prisons by twenty twelve after being ruled while european courtly breached human rights imprisonment for public protection sentences were abolished. in twenty seventeen over three thousand people serving the sentences according to secretary of state for justice it's austerity cuts brought on by the conservative government that are to blame if you go over crowned underfunding why isn't the government dealing with sentences when people could be potentially people who. are found to be. one of the real problems. people on the. outs is that. there's been under funding the education services and mental health services in prisons and their number of conditions people have to make it before they can be released for their sentence and and some people have had a long time in prison than they should have done because the education courses in the to do as a condition of finishing the sentence haven't been available because i've been placed on the course of a book or because it hurts and missed sessions because the prisons have been so on the start that they weren't in prison obviously take them safely from the cell to get education because the conservative m.p. and member of the u.k. just a select committee disagreed that there was a crisis in ukraine prisons would you agree that there is a prison crisis right now and i don't think there is a prison crisis at the prison in my in my own constituency for example there was a violent incidence there but by and large as the inspections approved it is being run very well and it is a very calm place and i think that's what you'll find if you look across the prison system as a whole so i.p.p. senses have been abolished why the prisoners still sobbing their sentences in prison where there are still some prisoners that the law still serving that while the i.p.p. system is reveled but the key thing to concentrate on is the rehabilitation of prisoners and that comes down very much to their role in education and how the prison service can help them to move their lives on and i saw very good examples of this in germany and in denmark for example where the lines of prisons have been transformed as a result of the courses the were running and the sort of activities the work activity is that they were involved in one less than is the cox and the lack of funding in the u.k. prisons mean that they're actually have access to those courses or don't have the personnel to cover those courses. for the people that are currently serving this is still stuck in limbo but we've changed the rules so that governors can have more authority over their own prisons which i think is a very good thing and the courses are being run and are being run effectively and there are there are a huge number of prisoners who are going through them and getting the benefits of them every day that we that we city talking about them i want to speak to sort of the president of public protection sentence jamie turner rope the post office with an unloaded gun he was sentenced to all brought and having a firearm with intent he received in i.p.p. just ten days after they were brought in i cleared my fence on the fourteenth of april two thousand and five if. i were to commit my friends before the fourth of the reports and i would have. less so for that head and i. was more. or less you know i'm not i'm not excusing my behavior that i was deeply ashamed of myself and i even wrote the guy a policy that i was this is how he was. you know sorry for any upset upset cause which i did and i needed to be punished and in some ways i probably wanted to be punished and i just want my issues out you know i was taken off everyone's time which i was taken in for depression and because everything that was a clear my head i didn't even start command these it's hard to fences until the last when i was forty one forty two there's nothing else in my previous history that is that is violent so everything that i looked inside me when i got the sense i never really went into my background or you know they just on paper they thought well you've done this and they gave before you did this. so like. you who would like you off when you went in and what was your experience your first day and. always have it don't end when you've got five years in front of you that you think oh i'll get through these five years and. then i can go home and that. obviously that wasn't the case because the five year period. and i didn't go home i was told to counsel concept and other so he is to five years are you going to see the parole board are always yeah yeah and they said well i know you've got this i.p.p. sentence that's right progress to every time like on a program i was kind of expecting to go home with a five year period not to be given another two years more. and that college deflates your bed and then just send you into a lie. because you must not you know when you get to the end bit and then you think now and then and they go and sag another bit and that's what happened in basically . and you know i didn't deal with these things that will. ease it was i was to say well he said what you just said then you were in twenty something he was a bullish twenty twelve it was yes actually when you're inside you are ok this is surely i'm coming out if the effect is you know i'm a good know what my thing was h month would be a version. of inside call it hard times and i'd always go and try and see where it was in the prison live always had the hope that this month something's going to be in there that is going to be you know i would be like war is over on i think. you know and obviously that didn't come you just get these little snippets of hope. you know i knew i had hope because i just thought. fantasist called me saying hey you know shorty someone's gonna say the fairness of all this we have recently they're brought in for like seriously violent pm carneval if you will the sex offenders and now it's against people yeah but yourself attempted robbery but also even smaller crimes as well yeah yeah you have probably mommies want to know more there is a series and maybe and it's had. a lot of people with a lot less done a lot less than they you know i always knew that i was in that gar you know it's just a brief period it's on in my life where you know it was a bit desperate and myself also had to sign sentences if you know to kill somebody basically. saying is this will be the first day i think it's christmas is also christmas style is this what i've with you know i just want to get it over and done with and then move on to the new year so i'm always waiting for that new year to come in i just wish in your life why i say that's what you do you just wish your life away. you know you might boast of it but there's no lady there's no law in there now to occupy your mind in that you know you just a menial tasks try not to get a door closed become a train or something so you doors be open all the time but. nobody would end up in the clayton powell you know which to have a lot because there's no there's never enough in the cupboards claim with. legitimacy you go in there when. you know. the government is just we've true squeezed it squeeze the life out of it and it was underfunded in the first place and that's why they got the problems they're in there now and what did those extra years like honest teach you had while you were inside. it was just tough and because it was just tough he's not just fills you full of rags are you and i worry and think and you just thinking constantly when i get when i'm again i just going to happen this is going to happen for me you know you just never know because sometimes you just you think you know you're never going to get you just to stop thinking. you know you love it when they have given up hope. reason understandable . they have given up. prisoners levels have reached the highest in history but there were forty one thousand cases last year but recent figures from the prison reform trust showing that for every one thousand people serving in i.p.p. there were five hundred fifty incidents of self paul i want to speak to the bell from the u.k. charity the mental health center about the effect these indefinite sentences have on the mental health of inmates being in prison itself is a risk factor for a mental health difficulty you can imagine why and not knowing your release date of course for what's going to happen to you in the future is just an added risk we also know from research we did a few years ago now where when imprisonment for public protection was was still in force as a sentence many of the people who were in prison under those sentences had quite serious histories of mental health difficulty so it's a population that's already vulnerable compounded by the fact that people don't necessarily have any sense of when they might leave and what the future might hold for them and we need to be sure that anyone who is on imprisonment probably protection is able to get access to programs that will help them to change regardless of whether they've got mental health difficulty or not those that have may need some adjustments to make that appropriate and safe for them but we just need to ensure that somebody is working towards a release and working towards rehabilitation in the most effective way possible but it isn't just the sentences that are affected. in hotly was given a minimum taria of two years and eleven months for robbery but thirteen years on he still in sight and his family have no idea when he's getting out. not knowing when they're going to be released in the nineteen or in the life sentence and. if there is an even after being really the last time we live when you have a sensation there's times where it wants to end his life doesn't say more and he ends well. you know my what anyone says or goals no one is actually doing anything to help their on paper they just are forgotten about. and that's how a lot of people want them so they forgotten that i don't because the government brought how. that was and implements a proper way they do not think the sentence. deport people for minor crimes on the ninety nine year license. we've you truly do believe this christmas you would have been here even the man who brought it in agrees that it was a mistake yet. the dave you've not got anyone that's not p.p. that's at nine o'clock the role law costs and these people of have been forgotten about nine hundred people on them it's been given the sentence and they gave it some one thousand so you can imagine what the prison system was like it's just for we dogs and violence it's a dog eat dog weld you've got over my skull and if you tell that mask off then you vulnerable you can't move on the boat. how damaging is that do you think god's especially not. it's hard and that's what we fight for the ivory because of our anger as you might as well just send them to death penalty at least and if you give them the death penalty the know when this in and read and that's what it's all of our it's just the not knowing and that's where the mental torture can say for the farmland for. the sentence this isn't. this year tens of thousands of inmates and offices will be spending their christmas in prisons all get to be a breaking point on the stall on the farm did an overcrowded violence drug and cell paul continue to ryse all the thousands of prisoners that could go free. sebastian packet and that's if it's a day's show and for this season from here in the shadow of the grand bell tower one of the poorest communities in one of the richest places on earth we'll be back on new year's day with award winning journalist abdel bari atwan plus former m.p. and will cost a member hoping to hear their reflections and predictions for twenty eighteen but back for a brand new series on wednesday the seventeenth of january but until then we'll be playing your favorite episodes from this season but don't forget to get in touch by social media see you soon from the whole team of going underground by christmas and a happy and peaceful new year. how does it feel to be a share of the greatest job in the world it's as close to being a king as any job there is what business model helps to run a prison now we just do or don't like it nobody you know is attached and i don't no one comes anymore we don't have to. certainly more is cost effective this would be want to be given that loan they don't give a damn if you do the chores or not they're going to be paying to put much into the good the louisiana incarceration rate is twice as high as the us same breach what secret is behind such success. and. you got manmade global warming incinerating plan or are causing an eco but the corporations feel like you know what that might cost us a penny at the end of the year so we do have donek adjustment to our algorithm it will take out the city in alaska that would flag us to take action appropriate first survival of the species and we're going to instead rely on our balance sheet and our algorithm like i'm a good g.p.s. monitor in your car that's pointing over a cliff they're saying i don't care if the cliff is there my algorithm says it's not there so i keep driving i do a film with always going to go right over the cliff because of the data tells me. it's. a six pm from moscow israel's prime minister who orders the country's withdrawal from unesco now despite having several recognized world heritage sites report coming up. another. i wish i could say that i was surprised but the reality. is they have. even more.