Today in our program the dollar is 83 cents, what you can buy with them and why we still have not found an alternative, but we cannot use them western companies are passing into russian control. Russia wants in the country. The advanced one should help fight, look right now. Hello this place meeting on ntv a place where everything becomes clear . Im andrey norkin. My colleague is ivan trushkin. We are working live. The first hour of our discussion today. We will dedicate to the development of one of e yesterdays stories. As you remember, it was anton valeryevich who drew attention to this there. Ivan, in the information block, was talking about the fact that serious changes were taking place there in the ruble Exchange Rate, and the central bank reacted to this today. We are going to talk about all this now. Well, probably in the same vein as why we still cant get rid of that dollar. Although it seems like its almost. We re used to hearing that we can do without this very dollar. Well, this is literally a little later, because at the very beginning of the program, of course, we cannot fail to mention it already. And also this tragedy in makhachkala today in dagestan today is declared a day of mourning, and you know, of course, from information releases that there was a fire, and an explosion in a car service and at a gas station, dozens of dead is true and, uh, dozens of victims, well, there latest information 35, in my opinion, victims and more than 100. This person is the wounded Vladimir Putin expressed condolences to his relatives, and those who died wished a speedy recovery to those who were wounded, by the way, even the head of some foreign states in our country expressed condolences. Here i am, when i was driving to work, i saw that the president of kazakhstan sent such a telegram to Vladimir Putin well , because, of course, how terrible this state of emergency is, what is known, well, by and large, for the time being, accurate information. No it is reported that the fire broke out in the territory, car services. Theres a suburb. Makhachkala, it seems, some work was going on there and then an explosion thundered. He provoked a fire at the zs , which was nearby, at that moment eight fuel tanks were placed. Two of them exploded, hot fuel covered cars passing by and people who had gathered nearby, according to the ministry of emergency situations, as i said. As a result of the tragedy, 35 people died. Among them, three children 115 suffered now in the region a state of emergency has been introduced. Debris clearing continues around the clock at the site of the explosion. Special services and volunteers work in makhachkala, the investigative committee. He opened a criminal case under the article on the provision of services that do not meet the requirements of the safety of life and the health of consumers, which negligently caused the death of two or more persons. Here, you will see the prosecutor general of the red, he instructed to check the legality of the location of the gas station in dagestan , and the Regional Prosecutors Office will now find out how carefully the requirements of fire and industrial safety were observed. Uh, in front of a standing gas station what caused the fire and fire . Thats the point where are we today . This is essentially the epicenter of the tragedy. From the tragic news, lets move on to another important topic this morning, the central bank of russia reacted to the last days on the last days of the depreciation of the ruble on the stock exchange, after the day before the dollar became worth 100 rubles. The central bank decided to raise the Interest Rate on an extraordinary basis. And done. This was a month ahead of schedule for the First Time Since the spring of last year that the Central Banks board of directors met off schedule. On meeting, it was decided to raise the key rate. Now. This is 12 . It was i recall 8. 5 key rate. Quite simply, this is the minimum percentage at which the central bank lends to all our other banks, respectively, to banks. Now it will become more expensive to borrow the central bank and this should strengthen the ruble by raising the rate. The average person feels this way, if, again, its just that the rates on Bank Deposits increase, but loans also become more expensive. Well, leading russian economic knowledge. It was predicted that becoming b could be in the region of 10 points, that is, it is obvious that these forecasts of the central bank are not only fulfilled, they even overfulfilled , they acted, one might even say aggressively, of an immediate effect. This is the departments decision. However, it did not. Although no one expected it to have an immediate effect, nevertheless, at first, after the announcement of an increase in the Interest Rate, the dollar fell and cost about 95 rubles. So, then he played the reverse and returned to the values. In the evening of the previous day, approximately 9798 rubles. The state duma, in turn, reminded citizens that they had already taken loans that you dont need to worry here is a quote on your screens. E head of the state Duma Committee on the financial market. Anatoly aksakov, he recalls that according to our laws, if a person has already taken a loan from a bank, then no matter how the Interest Rate of the central bank changes, the Interest Rate of this loan for a person will not change. Well, now Andrey Ivanovich can make our dollar dependence or independence from him. Yes, i just have such an offer to our esteemed experts. And you teach. What is here when discussing such a topic is there some . Uh, such a problem, mmm, if you now fill us up with some such detailed financial comments, it is unlikely that this will be correct. Here are the majority of our viewers. Well, first of all, i, although not spectators, a participant in the program, we will not understand anything. Well, because its a difficult question. Here, for example, here is the key rate. They just said, yes , the central bank raised by 3 1 2 , if thats just about something and what is 3. 5 for what . Its my god, in this case 3. 5 is insanely much, its so much that, for example, Anton Ivanovich gave us a forecast before the interview. He says, well, probably somewhere by 2 ill raise it there, they raised it by three and a half, so lets here you try it first. Now, when you comment on all this. Here to explain. Why. But they all tell us, we all actively support this, that dedalarization, we can do without the dollar. And why does it turn out that somehow it didnt work out, right . Let s see the Exchange Rate that soared over the past weekend of prehistoric values attracted the attention of the public and deputies senator Andrey Klishas addressed the central bank the day before, saying sanctions are sanctions, but threedigit numbers on Exchange Boards have psychological and social significance for russians. The dollar Exchange Rate has objective reasons, but it is important for the central bank of russia to understand that so far. Unfortunately, the dollar Exchange Rate is not only an economic indicator; the Exchange Rate has a Significant Impact on the social rights of our citizens. Despite this, according to the superjob portal , most of our citizens prefer to keep money. In rubles, only the third converts their savings into dollars and euros trust the russian currency, and even more than 60 , social Network Users reacted to the ruble peak with humor. They however, if the ruble does not return, in the previous positions , economists promise price increases in the next month, first of all, a jump in the Exchange Rate that will hit the cost of imported goods. These are cars. Household appliances, clothing, footwear , which, even if produced in russia, that is, imported materials, about 20 of pharmacy products are also imported, and almost half of russian medicines contains foreign raw materials. Something costs Russian Companies that produce inside russia but use imported components and imported materials. Well, lets say all russian poultry farming uses imported eggs. So, respectively, your eggs have risen in price, you should have chicken meat rise in price. Where do you get money from this on currency fluctuations, trying to make money and flow and services at all, not tied to the dollar and the euro, according to the russian edition of forbes, the owners of private and commercial. Real estate raise rent for housing explains inflation by a general rise in the cost of square meters. So, for example, in moscow , rent increased by 10 over the week, in samara, by the 14th largest jump in krasnodar , prices increased by almost 20 , and real estate for the purchase of housing last week in early august grew very strongly in price. If this situation continues further, then the currency. Maybe grow a little faster real estate will also grow in value. Will the russian people lose money . These are such passionsfaces, so anton valievich. That is, it turns out that we are still. Well , we are so seriously dependent on the dollar that we cant even imagine it very much. Last year, everyone laughed somehow, when you remember there, the old man is biden for 200 dollars , it says there, he shied away, again something oh , there are so many planes along which you need to somehow put a person in your place for a second second, according to which now denchika said that the people will lose money and all that, which means that there is nothing good in the fact that the dollar was staked for 95 dollars. No, dad, then not only a couple, because imports will grow, which means direct, and then because through components it will grow , valuable goods will grow, including, if this situation is not corrected, they came from china and from india from anywhere , because all those currencies are also tied to the dollar, when the ruble falls against the dollar it weakens automatically against other currencies, so here you can rejoice. And. But what about, well , listen to the pictures normally with humor such just unexpected programs. We are talking about that here we can do without dollars, it turns out we cant or im wrong. Give so means without dollar to manage while nobody can. There used to be such a currency, the function of sterlinniks performed the same function, then it became dollars. Why the dollar, because mostly settlements are made in dollars all over the world, because the dollar is convenient for the whole world. And we cant be, as it were , inventing some rules ourselves in china, india and everything. The dollar is convenient for anyone. Yes, they are slowly going through the process and the same thing. Zatseya, but this is a process stretched out over decades, well, 101520 years. It wont happen in any year, perhaps, a little bit, but you will have to endure, because i say it again, after 1520 we have already refused. Yes, the fact that we abandoned the dollar. You understand, we will have to buy something, for example, and this, and the seller sells for dollars or sells something for euros. And so we come and say they do not want to buy dollars for rubles, they will say, well, go look for a seller. Heres the problem, actually. If anything has changed compared with the past will have changed the trade balance and imports, respectively increased on the one hand on the other hand. We have a lot of companies. Now he buys for a pittance, including this requires currency. This also affects. Uhhuh, there are many factors. You understand that i started with a lot of bribs, including from 1 comrade to us now went to the program, i wont name, so as not to speak behind the back. I started that we have, it turns out it would be some. Spiral enemies that means thats specially for this course, so for good patriots some kind of poke is made on the other hand by a comrade, whether the deputy fedorov, who is on the air with us, will come for the second hour of the program, i dont know. Eh , they went very often, dear person, but all the time he writes and says some nonsense, which means, respectively, and there is another extreme, that the central bank means incompetent. They made it 50 key mistake. In the evaluation is that we incorrectly evaluate, equal to the point. We think that the ruble is our economy in the broad sense of the financial system. So shiny new racing pains, in which it is enough to put a cool pilot, for example, schumacher, and this pain will immediately win everyone. Well, firstly, we do not have a chic racing car, but a car that we have already been there several times many times. Uh, they went through a major overhaul. And now we dont even have details, we have a situation where the roadway in front of us in this race is constantly picking our opponents and creating all sorts of obstacles. We have a situation where there was a person, then the heat, then we still need to change the tires. That is, what im talking about, of course, the role the manager of that, for example, the central bank. Of course, no one takes pictures of her, but there are a lot of factors, a lot of factors, we are under very serious pressure, so seryozha is under serious pressure, so throwing pebbles, throwing poop, or Something Else says that and these are some wrong decisions. Listen, yes, yes, but the financial bloc was comfortable, and to a certain extent, a weak ruble, because it filled the budget, well, the lack of rubles is not up to 90 not until the ninetiesfive years. I try when i was little thats when in ninetyseven in ninetyeight and there something was going on, i didnt know what yet but everyone said that the dollar all around all the adults knew how to play football. And what should the central rate actually be, that is, this is a constant sofa rate, or then not yet strange. And why cash it will not change anything. Im trying to understand how we need, maybe change, to have less for all this. 5. 98 and so on to pay attention. Now they pay less attention, because imagine such a situation will satisfy 10 years ago. People, his once ran around moscow a very simple recipe. No need to get hysterical, you need to understand that we are now in certain conditions and there is no need to think that there is a magic wand, and the whole problem is that this is a magic wand, no one is waving. The problem is that we are in the conditions we are surviving now. Well , lets just survive like this antonovich well, you somehow started for health, by the way, you graduated for his peace, so wait for the property. Well, there are priorities. We have priority. At the front, for example, yes we are told lets cut driving i am now not not about it. Im talking about the fact that, damn it, im trying to formulate the question in such a way that, uh, you would answer it, and not the fact that the expelled have Read Everything there, including it is not necessary, nonsense, it is necessary to read. There was Something Like that, look, it means we have to do it again recently. Here, well, we can say that for more than a year they have always been saying that despite the sanctions pressure, despite the fact that we are conducting a special military operation , the economy. In general, it shows itself very, very well. Against this background, and me it seems that the citizens began to strengthen. This is the impression that we can really live without a dirty green piece of paper, as Vladimir Volfovich once said, right . Here is arkady nicotine. Ah, the bulk and somehow this conviction began to grow, and to grow and grow that we can really do without the dollar without the euro without this pound, without those, here, currencies that do not mean countries to us, who impose sanctions against us and now it turns out what . Here is something inaccessible to my mind, Something Like this happened and mm began to idle. This is the engine we have to work, that is, we cannot get rid of these dollars. And you say its a decadelong process. Okay, i kind of agree with everything, but im ready to wait, but nevertheless. I would like to hear what it means for the decade, what should happen. Something has to change there or we have to do something. Come on here, try to explain this to me nikolayevich, because aksakova absolutely agrees that most citizens dont give a damn now, because we are citizens, money in foreign currency is not spend nowhere. Its completely different. I understand, but thats the point, its important to say, because a person who receives 1520 thousand there, he will not buy anywhere and even pay to use it, and now almost no one leaves added this to the currency when he was small, then we all at that time, yes while talking. That for a person the Exchange Rate is not important, e currency to a certain extent, so then you can say . It doesnt matter that the earth is flat, because youll never reach the edge anyway. Why does it mean its round . Well, why do you need to know does it matter if its round . Well, in general, well, maybe a jump, what is flat and everything is fine, therefore , yes, some even prove the same thing as here, therefore. Uh, the Exchange Rate is like . Here the person has a temperature. Uh, Blood Pressure is also in the economy and one such indicator is the Exchange Rate, there is an obvious problem associated. This is with the fact that you can measure the temperature in celsius. And you cant know anything in enemy fahrenheit , the result, in fact, will be. Yes . Uhhuh , so over the past year and a half, there has been a very strong sharp change in the economy towards a sharp increase in the defense industry. Yeah, transferring finances of state resources there, including people. Resources are the next component that must be recognized, because when they say that Economic Growth due to which this Economic Growth occurs, we will start due to payments that occur during a special military operation, therefore, changes in the balance, including in the reg