It is good to be back with you on this second hour of Chris Jansing reports. No rest for the storm weary. We are live in florida as Crews Race to clear the damage from Hurricane Helene before the other Monster Storm named milton rolls ashore. Forecasters say the intensity is building again. Plus, get out now or die. Dire Evacuation Orders set off a scramble with highways clogged and things flying off the shelves. The latest on the storm that could be the worst to hit florida in a century. And when Disaster Relief turns political. Growing spat between Kamala Harris and Floridas Governor Ron Desantis after he reportedly dodged her call. What both sides are saying. And Donald Trumps predictions for the stormravaged south. Theyll still turn out for him even if they have to crawl to the voting booth. We start in tampa, florida, where people trying to evacuate face long lines for gas, standstill traffic, hundreds of cancelled flights. Sam brock is there live. What can you tell us about whats happening where you are . Reporter right now were in pinellas county. Its been a carousel of cars in and out of this Gas Station looking for some place to refuel. They keep asking us, is there gas here . And there isnt. There were Traffic Jams on the bridges. At this Gas Station, youll see a lot of this, plastic bags over pumps, signs that say please see the cashier, and then its boarded up, no cashier. I will give you a lens into the length of this crisis and what people are looking at. I had a conversation with a woman who says shes in Evacuation Zone D here in pinellas. She said im at 16. 10 to 15 feet are the projected Storm Surge for florida. She said her 16foot Situation is better than most people. Yesterday i had a conversation with a couple that was leaving town. They had been hit by Hurricane Helene and lost their home. They had all their possessions in the back of their truck. All you have left is in your Pickup Truck . Yes. And now youre on the move again. Yeah, unfortunately. Reporter the mayor of tampa came out and said we have the fuel. Its at the port of tampa. The issue is just this insatiable demand. We cannot keep up with it. They have Fuel Tankers who its not clear can get to the folks who need it. When the last major turn hit directly 100 years ago there were a few thousand people. There are 3 Million people in the Metro Area that have been asked to evacuate. Just trying to process those figures is pretty hard to conceive. The topography of tampa, when you have a Storm Surge plowing all this water in. It has nowhere to leave. It gets jammed there. So ten to 15 feet, current protection, will be an absolute catastrophe for tampa. Thats what on the minds of many folks here as you hear Evacuation Order after Evacuation Order. When you see a family with everything they have in the back of a pickup. Its sobering to say the least. Debris from Hurricane Helene is piled up along the coast. In sarasota, what are you seeing there . Reporter we continue to see debris out on the streets and neighbors. That of course is problematic because it can get in the way. This is the aftermath of cleanup so far from helene. I want to go back to what you were discussing about evacuation. People might be wondering why they need to heed the warnings from officials. This is a door at a resort that is supposed to swing out. Look where it is. It is busted in on a pile of sand. Look at the couch, the table, the chairs, all tossed around. In the back left corner, that is a fridge that possiblywas in the storm. We have footage from a drone from earlier to give you an idea what were seeing along the coastline. You can see all the piles of sand, all the debris left over from that storm two weeks ago. Now we are bracing for a second major hurricane in two weeks. In the middle of a hurricane, theres also a political Storm Brewing between Vice President Kamala Harris and florida governor Ron Desantis. Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez is at the White House for us. A gabe, this was all over desantis allegedly dodging Harris Phone calls. What do we know about what happened . Reporter Governor Desantis has been busy, of course, dealing with the Emergency Response in florida. He said he has spoken with President Biden as well as the fema administrator. Yesterday Nbc News broke the story he had been refusing to take the call of Kamala Harris. The Vice President yesterday called him utterly irresponsible and selfish. Governor desantis fired back that she has no role in this. Take a listen to what the Vice President had to say earlier on the view. We all need to work together to combine resources, federal, state and local resources around these kind of disasters. Its a shame that hasnt happened. Look, it has at the local level. Hell take your call when youre president. [ applause ] heres the thing you should know on that point. And when im president , i will continue to call him to see what he needs for help. I didnt even know she called. She didnt call me. Their characterization of it was something they did. It wasnt anything my office did in terms of saying it was political. Reporter that was a News Conference Governor Desantis had yesterday. Overnight he spoke out in another interview on Fox News where he said, again, Vice President in his view had no role in this. He took offense to her calling him selfish. He pointed out he worked with President Biden and President Trump as well and has never run into this issue. It seems there is this back and forth with Governor Desantis calling Vice President Harris Outreach political. Gabe, thank you. Its worth noting on one hand Governor Desantis is saying as Vice President she had no role. What exactly is the former president paying . The former president is trying to make in the eyes of voters or potential voters Kamala Harris responsible for anything they dont like about the Hurricane Response in any of the affected states. Hes been making this point in interviews and on his social Media Platform where he posted most recently that this Storm Response is not like any storm in history. He hopes they remember this at the ballot box, which is interesting, because when he was asked a couple days ago about the impacts of the storm. He kind of demurred. Listen. Republican areas got hit very hard. You know that. They got hit very, very hard. I believe and many people are dead. Many people are dead. They dont even know what its going to be in terms of the number. You know they have hundreds are missing. I cant really speak to it. I can only say theyre going to go out and vote if they have to crawl to avoting booth. Part of that answer is true. Republican areas were hit hard by the storm in western north carolina. 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[music playing] just minutes ago we got an update from the national Hurricane Center that Hurricane Milton has restrengthened now with winds at 155 miles per hour, roaring toward the Florida Coastline. I want to bring in the Deputy Director of the national Hurricane Center jamie rome. Whats the very latest . Milton has reacquired some of its prior strength. These fluctuations both up and down are to be expected with storms this powerful. I dont want people to get lost in that. You can easily get lost in what it is now. I want people to focus on what it will be when it moves across the Florida Peninsula. It will be a strong and powerful hurricane when it moves across the Florida Peninsula. Its going to cut a wide swath of huge impacts across a densely populated portion of the Florida Peninsula. This is our current Hurricane Warning in effect thoughing you where the Hurricane Force winds could be. Everyone in this red area needs to be prepared for potential longterm outages. Somebody in this purple area is going to get ten to 15 feet of Storm Surge, roughly double what they experienced with helene. Republican Senator Marco Rubio put out a tweet saying several years ago he asked the national Hurricane Center to show him what the worst case to hit florida would look like, and hes saying what he sees now is almost identical. Are we in potentially a nearly worst Case Scenario with this storm . Its a really concerning scenario, because its not just the Power And Magnitude of the hurricane that youre looking at. Youre looking at how many people could be potentially impacted. In this case with this ten to 15 feet of Storm Surge, thats a densely populated area of the Tampa Bay Sarasota area. And extending down the West Coast of florida, less surge but still really impactful. This is Hurricane Force winds moving along the i4 corridor. You have tampa, daytona, orlando, a huge portion of the Florida Peninsula population feeling some type of impact from this system. Jamie rome of the national Hurricane Center, thank you for bringing us the very latest. Appreciate it. Vice president Kamala Harris facing some tough questions on her big economic push to expand the child tax credit, Tax Break for firsttime Home Buyers and money for a business startup. The question was, how are you going to pay for it . Im going to make sure that the richest among us, who can afford it, pay their fair share in taxes. It is not right that teachers and nurses and firefighters are paying a higher Tax Rate than billionaires and the biggest corporations. And i plan on making that fair. Were dealing with the real world here. The real world includes how are you going to get this through congress . When you talk quietly with congress, they know exactly what im talking about, because their constituents know exactly what im talking about. Congress has shown no inclination to move in your direction. I disagree with you. Important context here, new polling from the New York Times show the economy is the top issue for 28 of likely voters, double that of the second most important issue. Symone, did she answer the question . She did not go into detail, no, about how shes going to pay for the plan. But i would argue thats not uncommon with president ial candidates or maybe gubernatorial candidates. Its not like there are no contours of how thats going to happen. She ease talked about racing taxes on the richest people in this country, the proposal that youve heard about no one making under 400,000 will see a change and raise on their taxes. That is a piece of that. If Vice President harris is elected as president harris, then her administration during the transition will go through the rigorous task how they plan to rally congress to get this done. In that Dana Bash Interview the Vice President had, she noted this would be her dayone agenda. I thought it was a good interview. The Vice President knew she was going in for an interview where there was going to be some skeptism about her economic proposals. She today her ground. Extra tax credit, helping small businesses, helping you buy your first house are good, but also that she can pull it off. Do you think she made progress toward that . As a matter of campaigning, she needs to get in front of more people and talk about what she wants to do. To do this on 60 minutes which always has a huge audience, thats a big win for her. There are a lot of people who are going to decide this election who may vote simply because they dont want Donald Trump. The deck is stacked against Kamala Harris. Theres a very good chance republicans are going to control the senate. A lot of these big ideas shes talking about, whether you pay for them or not, is probably not going anywhere. She would be the first president since george h. W. Bush who didnt have a congress working to set the advanced agenda. It may force us to get back into bipartisan law making. If you dont want Donald Trump to be president but you want a big bold agenda, its appealing. Its a big question of whether its good for her to be selling this big agenda. Everybody cares about the economy, right . I want to play what Donald Trump said about harris economic policies. She wants to go into government housing. She wants to go into government feeding. She wants to feed people. She wants to feed people governmentally. She wants to go into a Communist Party type system. When you look at the things she proposes, theyre so far off she has no clue. I guess thats the comparison, right, from what she said and what he said . I guess i could say he should show this on a radio show, but the reality is Donald Trump doesnt want to face those same questions about his plan. Kamala Harris Proposals totaling a 3 or 4 Billion in spending. The substance doesnt Add Up for Donald Trump either. Thats why he wants to avoid this scrutiny. Thats why hes just talking to people he knows are going to go easy of him. I think what harris is doing with the right approach. Donald trump is not willing to make that tradeoff. The campaign has outraised Donald Trump. I think a lot of people would agree shes outmessaging him. But that hadnt pulled her outside the margin of error in these polls. What can she do between now and 28 days from now . I dont think Theres Anything thats going to pull Vice President Harris Campaign out of the margin of error. We havent had Landslide President ial elections in this country for a while. Millions and millions of people voted for Donald Trump in the last election. I do think this is going to be an election that is record turnout. And i think one of the biggest things that maybe folks not you, chris, because youve always been right on the money on this, but other people within the Media Apparatus have missed that this Election Wasnt Close before because maybe some voters thought the president was too old. No. We had to come to a revelation across the board that some people like what Donald Trump is selling. What the Harris Campaign has to do is twofold. They need to make this a turnout election, meaning theyre going to need to turn out base voters. Those base voters. The Vice President was looking at pictures of when she was elected District Attorney in San Francisco and a photo of when she was sworn in as Vice President. She talked about how people have the power, and because people voted these two photos were possible. It was the power of people at the ballot box. That is whats going to help move people to vote. The republicans and true independents are undecided maybe between Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. 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This is not the only example of trump using increasingly harsh rhetoric toward migrants. We have bad genes in this country right now poisoning the blood of this country. These are words of the potential next president of the united states of america. That number he put out there, thats a misrepresentation of the number that doesnt account for individuals detained by state and local authorities. Also that includes that 13,000 individuals who came into the country before Joe Biden took office. And before Joe Biden took office was when he was in office. Correct. There is a long history of debunked Race Science in the u. S. Its not true. Yet what we see from Donald Trump is a suggestion that genes are part of what leads migrants to go and kill people. When we talk about 100 years ago it was eugenics that have strict quotas on individuals that come in from certain parts of the world. 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