Transcripts For MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 2

Transcripts For MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20241008

That's going to do it for our special vladimir putin birthday edition of the rachel maddow show tonight. Now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. I would not have known whose birthday it was today, rachel, if you didn't deliver that what do we call that? is that good news? i'm not sure what that is. It's the opposite of me singing happy birthday. It's a fact, that's for sure, characterizing it yonder that is not easy. Thank you, lawrence. Thank you, rachel. Thank you. Thank you. We are separated by an entire country right now. I'm in los angeles. She's on the east coast so our connection has a little bit of a gap in it when we are chatting , which explains our little pauses with each other right there. Now it is an election night in america and it will be election 19 america every night for the next 29 days. That's until november 5th, the final election nights of the season. Voting is already underway at early voting locations and with mailin ballots in this country. Over 2 million votes have already been cast. 53% of those votes are from registered democrats. 31% are from registered republicans. As usual, donald trump stupidly discourages early voting while democrats encourage early voting. Vice president harris had no campaign events today but at the vice president's residence in washington, d. C. She invoked the israeli tradition of planting a tree to honor the memories of the victims of the october 7th attack in israel, exactly one year ago today. The jewish philosopher rabbi abraham joshua henschel, ruth, and i old quote, religion begins with a consciousness that something is asked of us. So in this moment, on the one year commemoration of october 7th, what is asked of us? what is asked of us? first and foremost, i believe that we must never forget. I will never forget october 7th and the world must never forget. What is asked of us? we must work to ensure nothing like the horrors of october 7th can ever happen again. And on this solemn day, i will restate my pledge to always ensure that israel has what it needs to defend itself. And that i will always work to ensure the safety and security of the jewish people here and around the world. What is asked of us? we must reunite the hostages held in gaza with their families, and i will never stop fighting for the release of all the hostages, including the american citizens living and deceased. O'mara, e don, soggy, keith, judy, god and lite. What is asked of us? we must uphold the commitment to repair the world, an idea that has been passed on throughout generations of the jewish people, and across many faiths. And to that end, we must work to relieve the immense suffering of innocent palestinians in gaza, who have experienced so much pain and loss over the your. As the first jewish spouse of an american president or vice president, i take this role very seriously. Kamala is the one who encouraged me to use my platform i have to fight against antisemitism and hates. She's also the person who encouraged me to lean into my jewish faith. When we first moved into this residence we affixed a mezuzah on the doorpost with our family present. Now as we prepare to leave a legacy of our time here, we plant this pomegranate tree to honor this solemn day and for the families who will come after us to enjoy. This is the first tree we planted since we moved in here and it will be the first fruit tree ever planted by a second family at the residence. Kemal and i are proud to continue tradition with this symbolic meaning for every family that lived here and who will leave here. Donald trump was afraid to participate in what has become a presidential campaign tradition of both candidates appearing in a special edition of 60 minutes for an interview. Donald trump promised to do it, and then last week he took the cowardly course of backing out of the interview. The campaign offered shifting explanations. First it complained that we would fact check the interview. We fact check every story. Later, trump said he needed an apology for his interview in 2020. Trump claims correspondent lesley stahl setting that interview that hunter biden's controversial laptop came from russia. She never said that. Trump has said his opponent doesn't do interviews because she can't handle them. He had previously declined another debate with harris. So tonight may have been the largest audience for the candidates between now and election day. Donald trump is afraid of debating kamala harris again and he's afraid of 60 minutes. And that could be because he simply does not have the mental capacity to survive a 60 minutes interview now. That question was raised the new york times, reporting about donald trump's apparent cognitive decline that has been on display publicly, which includes donald trump claiming to have run for president against barack obama, which never happened, and mixing up names of countries, including confusing iran and north korea, along with outbursts of incoherent rage. It could be that the campaign staff decided that a trump appearance on 60 minutes would be not survivable at this point and what they perceived to be donald trump's cognitive decline. Vice president harris, of course, delivered her commitment to join a special edition of 60 minutes for an interview. She delivered about her commitment to join 60 minutes for an interview tonight. We supply israel with billions of dollars in military aid and yet prime minister netanyahu seems to be charting his own course. The biden/harris administration has pressed him to agree to cease fire. He's resisted. You urged him not to go into lebanon. He went in anyway. Does the u. S. Have no sway over prime minister netanyahu? the work that we do diplomatically with the leadership of israel is an ongoing pursuit around making clear our principles. But it seems that prime minister netanyahu is not listening. We are not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the united states to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end. Do we have a real close ally in prime minister netanyahu? i think, with all due respect, the better question is do we have an important alliance between the american people and the israeli people, and the answer to that question is yes. It is entirely possible that no undecided voters will see the vice president's 60 minutes interview, but it is very likely that undecided voters, especially undecided women voters, will see her interview on a podcast hosted by alex cooper, which has the second highest audience of any podcast in america, with an audience that is 24% republican and 20% independent. We have a woman named amber thurman who died in georgia because the abortion bans in that state, the doctors were too afraid to treat her. I know that you spoke to her family. What was that conversation like? it was heartbreaking, alex. It was heartbreaking. Her mom and her two sisters. And so, amber was a young mother of a 6yearold son. She was a medical assistant who was so excited because she was just getting on her feet to be independent. She got her own apartment and in a gated community with a pool that her son could play in. She got accepted to nursing school. She was, as described by her family, so excited and so ambitious, and she had plans. Than she found out she was pregnant and she didn't want to go through with her pregnancy, and she was living in georgia, and she couldn't receive care there she was past six weeks. Here's the thing that's so messed up about this. Some of these people will say, but i do believe in exceptions. I believe there should be an exception in terms of in the life of the mother. Here, let's talk about this. Let's get back to in practical application of policy. Okay, so you believe there's an exception that the person should receive abortion care if the life of the mother is at risk? you know what that means in practical terms? she's almost dead before you decide to give her care. What's? so we are going to have public health policy that says a doctor, a medical professional waits until you're at death's door before they give you care? that's outrageous that anybody would be saying that that is acceptable policy. So until everything that physically could happen to your body in terms of deterioration, only at the point that, oh, she might die is she going to get care. Where is the humanity? i do want to clarify something. In the debate former president trump claimed that some states are executing babies after birth. Can you just clarify? that is not happening anywhere in the united states. It is not happening and it's a lie. Just it's a boldfaced lie that he is suggesting that can you imagine? can you imagine? he is suggesting that women in their ninth month of nancy are electing to have an abortion? are you kidding? that is so outrageously inaccurate and it's so insulting to suggest that that would be happening, and that women would be doing that. It's not happening anywhere. This guy is full of lies. I just had to be very candid with you. Full of lies. Kamala harris asks where is the humanity. Where is the humanity? donald trump seems to have none, not a shred of humanity. Donald trump said today that he believes that immigrants to this country are genetically inferior human beings. That is exactly what adolf hitler thought and said. Donald trump doesn't seem to remember that he is a descendent of immigrants to this country, including his mother, who was an immigrant. Two of the mothers of donald trump's children are immigrants. Donald trump said today, quote, we've got a lot of bad genes in our country right now. And again, that is almost word for word what adolf hitler was saying in the 1930s, before he started world war ii, and before he started an organized extermination program of the jewish people, in which adolf hitler's ambition was to execute every living jewish person he could find anywhere in europe. Because, among other things, he believed the bad genes theory, that donald trump believes and spews in his poisonous madness and relentless stupidity. At 78 years old, we don't know how much longer the world will have to endure donald trump's delirium ranching, but we should expect that for every year donald trump has left, he is going to get worse. Today's print edition of the new york times carries an account of donald trump's cognitive decline and poisonous rantings under the headline, trump's speech is increasingly angry and rambling, reignite the question of age. Times reports some of what he says is inexplicable, except to those who listen to him regularly and understand the shorthand, and he throws out assertions without any apparent regard for whether they are true or not. Lately his claim that crowds ms. Harris has drawn were not real, but the creation of artificial intelligence. Nevermind the reporters and cameras on hand to record that. Talking on another occasion about how tough illegal immigrants are, he drifted off into a soliloquy about whether act is could portray them in a movie. They can't play the role. They'll bring in a big actor and you look, and you say, look, he's got no muscle content. He's got no muscle. We need a little muscle. Then they bring in another one, but he's got a weak face. He looks weak. Still he has a rather high regard for his own physique. I could have been sunbathing on the beach, he said at another point. You have never seen a body so beautiful, much better than sleepy joe, and i am deeply sorry for delivering that pornographic image of donald trump sunbathing on a beach, but i am just reading a new york times report here. That's what that was. Times also reports that donald trump, quote, vividly recounted how the audience at his climactic debate with vice president kamala harris was on his side, except there was no audience. The debate was held in an empty studio. No one went crazy, as mr. Trump put it, because no one was there. Donald trump actually said the audience that wasn't there went crazy, went crazy in a room where there was no audience. Years ago on twitter i asked the question, if donald trump gets dementia, how will we know? now he's imagining an audience in a room where there was no audience. Are we there yet? he publicly fantasizes about having to choose between being eaten by sharks or being electrocuted by an electric boat, apparently thinking that only an electrically powered boat has batteries on it, and not knowing that every boat except some very tiny sailboats has a battery on it. In fact, the old yacht that donald trump once owned, before he had to sell it in bankruptcy, had gigantic batteries on it, and he didn't seem to worry then about being electrocuted by those batteries, when he was 43 years old. Age has done a lot to donald trump. He now fears batteries on boats point the new york times notes a semantic indicator of the aging brain of donald trump, reporting, quote, proportionately he uses 13% more all or nothing terms like always and never than he did eight years ago, which some experts consider a sign of advancing age. Similarly, he uses 32% more negative words than positive words now, compared with 21% in 2016, which can be another indicator of cognitive change, and he uses swearwords 69% more often than he did when he first ran, a trend that could reflect what experts call disinhibition. Joining us now to explain donald trump's disinhibition is clinical psychologist mary trump, donald trump's nice. She's the author of the new york times bestseller, who could ever love you, a family empire. Mary trump, let's begin on disinhibition, and one of the striking things about that final point where they are talking about donald trump's profanity, his public profanity as a presidential candidate, it is 100% higher than any other presidential candidate in history, since none of them have ever used profanity publicly the way that donald trump does. Yeah, lawrence. I think there's a lot to talk about in this article, but that specific issue, to me, is an indication that donald is feeling out of control and also, as you mentioned, he is verbalizing in a way that other candidates for the presidency, other presidents never have, which is why i found at the beginning of this article it was so disheartening for them to talk about the kinds of lapses that i'm sure we're going to get into a little bit more, and then it played out, because they have been so often, they no longer generate much attention. Will that's the problem. Why? why are they not generating more attention? i wanted to reread the article before coming on with you tonight and it's not even on the front page of the digital edition of the new york times anymore. There's no followup. There is no more explanation. There is no opinion pieces about it. This is a real problem because he is presenting us with very real problems that deserve the kind of serious speculation and analysis that has been given to other candidates mental states in the past. And his handlers, and perhaps donald trump himself, seem to think that he really now has to be shielded, he can't be exposed to another debate with kamala harris. He can't possibly be exposed on 60 minutes tonight in their special programming, which they've been traditionally doing with presidential candidates for a while now. Yeah, and i think, again, that points to the problematic framing of this piece. This is not a question of aging. This is a question of cognitive decline that may indeed be related to some kind of cognitive issues donald is suffering from. It may be because of his decades long, very serious psychiatric disorders that have gone undiagnosed and untreated. We don't know because one thing this article also doesn't do is speak to experts on the topic. So we really need a broader discussion than in which we invite psychiatrists, psychologists, neurologists, neuropsychologists to help us understand what exactly is and gerontologist. We can throw some gerontologist's in, too, because there is so much at stake and because there is so much going on. What is a function of normal aging? what is a function of something else? and a lot of what was discussed in this article does not seem to me to be part of normal aging. Unfortunately, although there was a laundry list of the problematic behaviors and speech patterns we've been seeing, no context was provided. I, several months ago, stumbled upon donald trump in a 25yearold documentary that was about the development of new york city, and he was being his voice came on from off camera and then on camera, talking about how building in manhattan is good because the ground is so much rock under the surface there that you can really ground a building in. Really coherent explanation. Not long very coherent explanation, from what seemed like an experienced person who knew what he was talking about on this subject, and it was shocking. The coherence of it was absolutely shocking, compared to what you hear from him today. And you've been listening to him more carefully than i have over the decades. What is your own observation of what's happened to him? because what i saw there was a stunning decline, looking at it in reverse order, looking back to 25 years ago when the guy could actually make some sense. I think part of it is that since 2016, or i should say, since january 2017, donald has been entirely out of his depth. This is not nothing that he's been involved in, in the last eight years, is within the realm of his socalled expertise. There's that, which places an enormous amount of pressure on somebody. There is the fact that there are contributing factors to the deterioration in his performance, both cognitively and psychologically. He's under enormous amounts of stress. He's probably earned more stress now than he's ever been in his life, and that's saying something. He's a deeply unhealthy person. As i mentioned before, he has potentially several undiagnosed personality disorders. He probably has an undiagnosed learning disorder. He's a deeply unhealthy person in terms of his diet and complete lack of exercise and his lack of sleep, and on and on and on. So we really do need somebody to come in, come at this from the areas of expertise that could help the american people understand what is going on in that rally? is that aging? what is up with that tangential thinking? and the disinhibition? is there something else going on? and unfortunately i think that particularly because of the american psychiatric association, a lot of mental health professionals have felt constrained, not just by the old goldwater rule, but by the fact that in 2017 the apa expanded its beyond the point of absurdity. So psychiatrists can't even render opinions about what might be going on, even if the behavior of any candidate for the presidency might pose danger to the american people. Imagine not being able to have legal analysts on msnbc, if the aba did something similar. That's what we need now. We need people to come on and analyze his speech patterns, his behaviors, his vision, his very dark vision for this country, and look at the motivations and the potential for catastrophe, because that is what we are talking about here. Mary trump, thank you very much for your invaluable insight on this. Really appreciate it. Thank you, lawrence. Coming up, the new republic reports a decision by the supreme court today this way, quote, supreme court decides to let texas women die, end point. That's the subject of our next discussion with texas democratic senate candidate colin allred, who is surging in his campaign against texas republican senator cruz. That's next. That's next. D we could see exacy when they'd arrive with a replacement we could trust. Vo: schedule free mobile service at safelite. Com. Singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ we realize some home maintenance jobs aren't worth the risk. That's when we call leaffilter to protect our gutters. L

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