Into your homes during these extraordinary times. We are grateful. The beat with Ari Melber starts right now. Thanks so much, welcome to the beat, im Ari Melber, Early Voting is underway in 36 states, the majority of the country, it begins in the big state of Ohio Tomorrow and the election is 29 days away. Debates, done, and tonight we can tell you marks another Campaign Tradition for the home stretch, the interview, the longrunning 60 minute show a program that invites both nominees for their turn, the moments can be memorable. You dont have any doubts that you are ready . No. Whered you get all this confidence . My wife asked me all the time. There answer, now Kamala Harris is taking her turn as the nominee on the 60 Minutes Program Tonight and in a contrast to Donald Trump, who is breaking that tradition. The gap actually reflects something larger, a divergence in their strategies because while republicans have been pushing these attacks were they say harris is hiding out from all interviews, i bet you are familiar with that line of attack, and that something they did from the moment she entered the race, and they claim that trump does more interviews. The reality is actually more complex, harris did lay back from interviews in the first hectic weeks after she stepped up after bidens eggs and ended a few traditional interviews on Cable News and radio, you may recall she sat down with our colleague and did a joint interview with her Running Mate, Tim Walz on cnn, this week she is mixing this traditional lane that im telling about like 60 minutes with a wider blitz including new and different media. I will come back to Trump Skipping 60 minutes a couple of minutes but right now i want to point out that the Hair Strategy is actually broader than trump, she is doing digital broadcast to target listeners who may not follow regular news. On the one hand both campaigns are targeting voters, and the younger voters i mentioning rationing, through these newer platforms, but only one candidate right now, Donald Trump, is ducking the One On one interview with more traditional and independent journalist, he is bucking the 60 minutes tradition, avoided msnbc and cnn for the most part, the last major and independent interview he did with journalist, not just his own moderate allies on streaming was with the nabj. And there is news coming out of the Harris Podcast Interview today. She did this big unusual appearance with someone named Alex Cooper and if you dont know or i can tell you a heck of a lot of people do. She recently signed a 125 Million deal with Sirius Xm which gives you an idea of her value according to Media Companies in todays ecosystem, her 10 MillionPerson Audience for her show beats frankly most political programming. Shes kind of like the new Howard Stern, the show is called, call her daddy. It reaches a young audience that skews female, so harris and her campaign are doing this, quite deliberately, its a different kind of interview which is also a window into the issues that may be raking through for the audience, cooper asking about Jd Vance attack on women, who do not have kids. Jd vance called women who dont have kids childless cat ladies. What message do you think this sends to women, who cannot conceive, or just dont want kids . I just think its mean and meanspirited. And i think that most americans want leaders who understand that the measure of their strength is not who you beat down but the real measure of the strength of a leader is you lift up. The governor of arkansas said my kids keep me humble, unfortunately Kamala Harris doesnt have anything keeping her humble. There are a whole lot of women out here who one, are not inspiring to be humble. Thats just some of that conversation which is interesting, little different, the interview is part of the Rudder Series of interviews that includes coming this week the original king of media Howard Stern, hes hosted the president earlier this year and has been vocally supportive of this ticket, so thats the Howard Stern that interviews doing plus the view, The Late Show with colbert and a Whole Univision town hall. Harris allies view this blitz that im telling you about is a twofer, she will reach tens of millions of people beyond the political bubble and its also a demonstration that the Vice President can take all kinds of questions in all kinds of forums, rebutting the gop Talking Point that suggested she wasnt doing enough interviews well trump ducks, which we will get to but the other dynamic is how this campaign wants to showcase Kamala Harris at her strengths, remember, she came into this later than any nominee ever and while she is the Vice President , plenty of people dont follow everything so they want to find ways to continue to introduce. , that means finding forms that were, bill clinton, crushed town halls, it was his thing, his campaign was psyched to get one of the first president ial debates in that format, so they got a debate with all the energy and televised audience that brings with clinton talking to people in that format, obama was better at big speeches and the campaign prioritize them and harris, connected with people for her fine and offthecuff vibe, so they are looking at how these other venues can prioritize that. They said we need Understanding And Healthcare from the neck up. Im a gun owner. If Somebody Breaks in my house, they are getting shot. Yes, i hear that. I probably should not have said that. Miley hi how are you . I am honored. You are kind of a show off. Those are obviously different vibes, harris mixing that flavor with the journalistic interviews, and that brings us back to this major tradition in u. S. Politics that i mentioned, a tradition that is journalistic, that is designed to be fair, to draw in the nominees from both sides in a similar form, with the kind of indepth exchange thats different, im talking about 60 minutes. Where for many decades the giants of Network News have tried to show us and draw out and also press both Parties President ial nominees. You have reached some sort of an Understanding And Arrangement wait a minute, youre looking at two people that love each other, this is not an arrangement or an understanding. Im not sitting here like some little woman standing by her man like tammy wynette. They think that congressman Brians Budget Plan is going to drive voters their way, how do you respond to that . What i respond is very simple, and that is america has a choice. You dont have any doubts that you are ready . No. Where do you get all this confidence . My wife asked me that all the time. Is he tough enough to be president . Its toughness, shouting, trying to stick a knife in somebody, or is it principle . Your first statement was, are you ready for tough questions . Thats no way to talk. Its no way to talk. At this point, one of our producers interrupted to advise about the time remaining in the interview. I think we have enough of an interview here, hope. Ill see you later. Thanks. Be careful. When you invest in small businesses, you invest in the middle class, and you strengthen americas economy, small businesses are part of the backbone of americas economy. Pardon me, madam Vice President , the question was, how are you going to pay for it . Im going to make sure that the richest among us, who can afford it, pay their fair share in taxes. After initially accepting a request for an interview, the Trump Campaign decided they would not participate. That is the tradition of the past bringing all The Way up to the present. Donald trumps campaign initially they said, they accepted the request presumably for the reason most have, 60 minutes reaches millions of people and you what i want to see the turf and the airtime to your opponent in the home stretch, get after the initial acceptance, trumps campaign backed out which means tonight, millions of people will see only harrison not trump. Why . Trumps campaign admits the journalistic Fact Checking was part of the reason they dont want to do it. Which is striking. And i want to be as clear and fair as possible, campaigns, government officials, they can choose how to do press, theres no Rule Of Law and they can have their own views over who is fair, what topics to be emphasized and there are any valid debates over all of that if you deal with people who have experience in the area, we can explain how all of that works but here, the trump aides are not even claiming a valid Reason Or Concern about topics or something that again, people could debate, they just admit that they are worried about the facts themselves, just like they complain there was too much Fact Checking in the single Trump Harris debate this year. The Maga Movement treats lying for trump as a Litmus Test, lying about the last election and maybe the next one and its gotten to the point, Fox News of course by broadcasting those types of lies, ended up on the losing side of a massive defamation case. All of this is steeped within what else is going on, Jd Vance himself admitted in front of the whole nation that his only debate that he opposed Fact Checking and the rules were negotiated differently, to be as fair as possible but whatever the rule said when a candidate admits in public that Fact Checking, or the entry of facts, into his claims would be bad for the trump vance ticket, that is gob smacking, thats not normal. That hangs over all of this in Tonights Announcement that the trump folks are afraid to put them in a forum where he could be Fact Checked, snl turned that flag into a punchline. And just to clarify for our viewers, springfield, ohio, does have a large number of haitian migrants who have legal status, Temporary Protective Status but nora, margaret, i think its important the rules were that you guys were not going to Fact Check. Senator venter Running Mate refused to accept the results of the last election . You know, nora, its rich to say that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power, we said no Fact Checking, and willingly dont check that, got on his plane without incident, dont, dont check that. Dont check that, dont, dont, dont do it. That is a punchline, its not a good sign for any politician. The idea that Fact Checking at a debate or on 60 minutes, would automatically be so bad for your campaign that you just admit it in public, and as you know, if you watch this program we try and be fair and we hear from everyone within reason, we hear from both sides. We do it within fact, an adversarial Fact Checking sometimes, if the people lying make it adversarial but look, it is just about the facts. It is not normal and we shouldnt pretend its normal or let it be normalized to have a group of politicians and a growing share of one party admitting that falsehoods or lies are their only path to power. That is not a both Sides Type of things. The Fact Checking the supposedly partisan in their times of both parties have played with the truth but when you admit Fact Checking will hurt your campaign you are exposing a problem whether vance realized it or not when he coughed up that statement under anxiety. So thats why this contrast on 60 Minutes Tonight also matters and undercuts the Maga Canes that they say trump does interviews and harris hides. Trump and vance, right now are literally running away from the forms that confront them with facts which as i showed you, both parties including one time Donald Trump, when he would go on 60 minutes and they are doing something else that matters. Theyre huddling with allies and supporters in formats that are designed to look like interviews, to simulate the idea that Donald Trump is facing questions, when its all fixed. Candidates can appear with supporters, that happens, musk campaigned on Strays Stage and that reinforces how when they appeared on x it was not independent interview but more of a virtual rally. So there are lies and then there are lies about the lies and about the Fact Checkers. Thats what we are dealing with something that goes way beyond the Media Strategy of the week. It gets to the heart where the public will get enough facts to adjudicate the choice coming this next month, 29 days, with the facts at hand, so why was musks what is harris telling 60 Minutes Tonight. We will be back in 60 seconds. Can get iphone 16 pro on us. When you trade in any phone in any condition. Only on verizon. Speaker my little miracle is beckett. [christina perri, A Thousand years] i have died every day waiting for you. We wouldnt be where we are without Saint Jude. And in turn, we wouldnt be where we are without those people that have donated. So, what are you thinking . 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We are going to boom like weve never boomed before. As you can see and not just maga, im dark maga. We will reach mars before the end of my term. You want to be a pest, just teleprompters are dangerous because they go off a lot. You have to be prepared for them to go off. Be a pest to everyone you know, everywhere, vote, vote, vote. The mode that mood was jocular at times, musk used to have less love for trump but now he thinks that i might be president. Now, i want to show you how something as widely seen in the u. S. , x, as a less credible but form as it used to be and its also a business is faster, that is just what musk has done there and he also a taxfree speech, today he lost an effort to try to get of the Supreme Court to avoid subpoenas in the jack smith probe, his Track Record here is just not that great but in musk, trump has found something of a safe space. Its a campaign that trump conducts inside a Maga Bubble and the rally i just showed you have these meandering kind of confused digressions with often collided with, trumps age and possible cognitive decline is being reported by the New York Times, also 30 more all or nothing terms, uses swearwords, 69 more frequently, that is a trend that can be called ac