Good to be with you. Im katy tur. One year ago today, hamas militants launched an unprecedented multipronged attack on southern israel, descending on communities close to the border, killing 1,200 people, including 46 americans, and taking more than 250 hostages back to gaza. Kids, and babies, moms and dads, grandparents, soldiers, people in their homes, people at work. People at a Music Festival. It was the largest massacre of jews since the holocaust, the worst Security Failure in israels history. In the years since, israel has turned gaza into rubble, trying to root out hamas. And rescue hostages, killing 40,000 gazans, militants and civilians. In many cases, entire families, and lots and lots and lots of children. More than 16,000, according to local accounting. On top of that, an ever escalating humanitarian catastrophe, a lack of food, water, shelter, and medicine. Of the 250 hostages taken back to gaza, 117 have been released in shortterm Cease Fire and lopsided Prisoner Exchange deals. The rest are either still captive or dead. Including the entire bevis family, the youngest only nine months old when he was kidnapped. While the u. S. And, neither Benjamin Netanyahu or Yahya Sinwar have relented and netanyahu says his country faces war on seven fronts as conflicts across the Middle East escalates. A bleak backdrop against todays bleak anniversary as commemorations take place across israel and around the world. Joining us now, Nbc News chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel whos in tire, lebanon for us, and Erin Mclaughlin in Tel Aviv. Erin, ill start with you and the remembrances, whats it like there today . Reporter i was just at whats called Hostage Square here in Tel Aviv where thousands of israelis had gathered to remember what happened on October 7th. Many of them were in tears. It was an emotional ceremony. One of many ceremonies to take Place Today across israel. Today earlier in the morning, at exactly 6 29 a. M. , israelis gathered at the site of the nova Music Festival to remember the exact Minute Hamas militants crossed the border, storming the festival and the Kibbutz Scene killing innocent israelis. And that emotion, that sadness is also compounded by anger. I have been speaking to many israelis here, and they continue to be angry. They feel that this government is not prioritizing the release of the hostages in this war. And to that end, there were hundreds of Israelis Marching through the streets of jerusalem today, not far from the israeli Prime Ministers home, demanding just that. And it still, there are also lots of questions, i was speak to go a resident of kibbutz nir oz, one of the hardest hit of the kibbutz, they lost a quarter to kidnapping or killing on October 7th. One resident was asking me why it took the israeli military so long to respond to their kibbutz. Its an open question that a year later has yet to be answered. Katy. Richard, on the other side of this is the northern border of israel with lebanon, in the day after October 7th last year. Hezbollah there started lobbing missiles at israel in solidarity with hamas. This is before the war in gaza began in earnest, before israel started going in there. Now, after that year, israel has launched its own strikes against hezbollah in lebanon. Concerted strikes killing the leader of hezbollah, and now theyre there on the ground, fighting. Whats the latest . Reporter so the Air Strikes are continuing in beirut. They are continuing here in the city of tire, just during the latest commercial break, there were more Air Strikes, i could hear them where im standing right now. There have been puffs of smoke on the hills, just behind me on the outskirts of the city. Some of them powerful enough to rattle the windows here. A lot of South Lebanon is emptying out. Israel has been issuing daily Evacuation Orders for an increasing number of towns, villages, some small cities, and about a third of the country now has been declared evacuation zones, and the lebanese people are heading north to their safety. They are getting out of that southern suburb, if they can, because there is a sense that israel can strike, and will strike at will wherever it wants to. And there is a deep sense of unease in this country that we are at the beginning stages of a much greater war. People here understand what happened a year ago. Not everyone supports hezbollah, not everyone feels that hezbollah should have the ability to drag this country into a war without consulting the government, without consulting the people. That has happened, and now israel is responding, trying to eliminate hezbollah, and everyone who isnt supporting hezbollah worries that theyre going to be dragged into this war, and are being dragged into this war. Like i said, A Million people have already been displaced, very difficult to get out of beirut, very difficult to find a safe place, especially here in the south of the country. So there is an overwhelming feeling that the lebanese people are paying the price, the people of gaza are paying the price for the horrific act on October 7th, a year ago, at 6 29 in the morning. Richard engel, Erin Mclaughlin, thank you very much for starting us off. Joining us now, Carnegie Endowment for international peace senior fellow and former arab negotiator for the state department, Aaron David Miller and professor of International Relations at the London School of economics, gurgis. A year on, the effort by the u. S. And the qataris to find a permanent Cease Fire has failed so far. Where are we right now . What happens next . Our discussions are familiar and depressing. The headlines look grim and sort of the trend lines. October 7th changed everything. What im thinking now is what if it didnt. We have three ongoing conflicts and confrontations that show no signs of abating, and frankly do not have transformative or heroic diplomatic outcomes. One between israel and hamas. Sinwar and netanyahu facing off. The reason theres no Cease Fire is theres no urgency. Theres no urgency on the part of sinwar, and the same applies to netanyahu. You have israel and hezbollah, the israelis clearly have a right to secure their northern border. Im concerned, though, that the tactics they are employing Wont Result in a strategy that is going to secure that northern border, and now we may well be days away from the first iranian israeli war. I think October 7th, i try to hold in my head and heart, the pain, the suffering of both israelis and palestinians, hoping somehow that there will be a pathway out of this, but right now, i would be deluding myself, and everyone else if i believe there was. Fellows are we perhaps days away from an israeli iranian war . If its up to israeli Prime Minister, thats exactly what Benjamin Netanyahu wants. Benjamin netanyahu is gunning for war against iran, and he has the united states exactly where it is. Look. Horrific as it was. The 7th of october, the killing of 1,200 israelis was horrific. But regardless of how horrific it was, it is, this does not justify the slaughter of palestinians in the past 12 months. As you said, katy, 42,000 palestinians have been killed, including 16,000 children. More than 90,000 palestinians have been injured. Gaza is a wasteland, its no longer. The entire population of gaza has been displaced multiple times. Hundreds of palestinians have been killed in the West Bank in the occupied West Bank. In the past two weeks, as a result of the escalation of Benjamin Netanyahu, there was a diplomatic initiative on the table. It was an american french call for a temporary Cease Fire. It had been coordinated with Benjamin Netanyahu, it came to the united nations, he rejected the american french peace initiative, and decided to assassinate the entire top leadership of hezbollah and escalate is gone now, full invasion of southern lebanon. Israel says its a limited, targeted operation, exactly what Benjamin Netanyahu said. The americans said dont worry, its going to be a limited, targeted operation. Rafah no longer exists, its gone to A Million pieces. And yes, i worry a great deal. Look, wheres the biden administration . I dont think this is really Benjamin Netanyahus war. This is Joe Bidens war. The biden administration feeds this war. The biden Administration ShieldsBenjamin Netanyahu. And look, Joe Biden and blinken and jack sullivan, and austin, all of them really have been taken, been manipulated by Benjamin Netanyahu and extremists, religious zionist coalition. So, no, i dont see a light at the end of the tunnel, not because hamas does not want a Cease Fire in gaza. Hamas is a desperate for a Cease Fire. Let me ask you let me just i have only a couple of minutes left in this block, and i want to get a couple more questions. Fawaz, where is Yahya Sinwar, ive heard him describe to somebody whos willing to sacrifice the entire population of gaza to get his ends met . Katy, with all due respect, everything you leave from sinwar comes from american Intelligence Services and israeli Intelligence Services. This is the narrative thats really being fed to the american people. The hamas political leadership is desperate. They have accepted Joe Bidens proposal. Its Benjamin Netanyahu who wants total victory. He has made it clear. We should believe Benjamin Netanyahu when he says he does not want to end the war in gaza. He wants total victory. How do you square total victory with a permanent Cease Fire in gaza . I talk to hamas political leaders, they are desperate for Cease Fire. They want to survive politically. Its Benjamin Netanyahu who really does not want to end the war in gaza because he wants total victory. Hes delusional. You cannot have total victory. Even the americans could not have total victory. Im not here to defend Benjamin Netanyahu, nor would i want to. Aaron david miller, though, what do you think of what fawaz just said that hamas is desperate for this . Im the last person who wants to write a brief for Benjamin Netanyahu, the Longest GoverningPrime Minister presiding over the most extreme right wing government, probably the leader at the right time, for israels greatest crisis. That said, frankly analytically, and im not here to advocate. Im here to analyze. It is not one hand clapping. Lets be clear here. Israeli Palestinian Conflict didnt begin on October 7th. Theres No Doubt about that. But the three of us would not, i repeat, the three of us would not be having this conversation if October 7th did not occur. It wasnt some sort of Prison Break where hamas was completely under the Control Of am rational military strategy. It was to inflict Pain And Cruelty and sadistic practices that took the israeli Palestinian Conflict to a new level. Yahya sinwar is waiting desperately. The only desperate part about Yahya Sinwar is his desperation to see whether or not israel and iran can actually find themselves into a regional confrontation. This is not onehand clapping. This is a complicated conflict. Frankly, i dont think it serves anybodys interests in order to portray it in any other way. Yes, Benjamin Netanyahus decisions on War Making have been fundamentally skewed and at the time tethered to his political survival. About that, theres No Doubt. The complicated problem between israel and hamas, israel and hezbollah, and frankly, i think we need to analyze, rather than advocate with respect to the motives and consequences of whats occurred over the last year. If we dont, basically youre going to end up with a situation in which well be unable to create any sort of positive pathway forward. Its a tragedy, ill grant you that. Fawaz, i have to leave it there. I have a Family Member of some of the hostages that are still in gaza waiting. Fawaz, thank you. Aaron david miller, thank you as well. Still ahead, for 366 days they have been held in captivity, a relative of two children believed to be the youngest of hamass hostages joins us. One year after the worst attack on jewish people since the holocaust, where israelis stand on Benjamin Netanyahu. Thats a big question. The remaining hostages and the threat of a wider war. 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With no information, just hope that their Loved Ones are still alive. My next guest, ephat wishes good night to her nephews every single night as she tucks her own small children into bed in Tel Aviv. The boys are believed to be the youngest hostages held by hamas. Two of her four Family Members who have been captive now for the last 366 days and counting. Joining us now, Ephad Zeiler whose relatives are being held by hamas. The images of The Boys is heartbreaking. How are you . How are you dealing with this . I dont think there are words in the English Language to describe how i feel, how my family feels after a year, this long, gruesome, horrible year. Whats the latest information you have on them . Last november, in the last Cease Fire, the last Hostage Deal, my cousin and the two boys, didnt return from gaza. Hamas issued a notice that theyre gone, that theyre dead. The day after they released a video of yeldin, their father, saying that to the camera. They released it to telegram, we received it through social media. Watching him, heartbroken. Saying to the camera. Since then we havent received any confirmation about that. The intelligence here and all the Intelligence Agencies that are working Day And Night to retrieve information of the hostages. They Cant Confirm if my cousin and the two boys are gone. We are in this horrible situation of not knowing and as the days went by, and holding h