He is peddie. He is vindictive. And he is cruel. Donald trump is not fit to lead this good and great nation. Liz cheney and Kamala Harris making the case to republican voters. Together, i know we can et chart a new way forward. Not as members of any one party, but as americans. Tonight as republicans try to whitewash the attack on the capitol, two of the Police Officers injured that date join me live. Spent your lies are well documented. These convictions are serious. I am convinced you would do it all over again if you could. Justice for one of the people who try to overthrow the 2020 election as Jack Smith lays out the case against Donald Trump. He lied. He lied, he lied, he lied. The alternate reality pushed by trump and his Running Mate when all in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. We have been watching this scene in wisconsin, the birthplace of the republican party, and its a place where former Republican CongresswomanLiz Cheney just joined Kamala Harris, Vice President , for a joint campaign appearance. Taking to the stage amidst chance of thank you, less. I tell you, i have never voted for a democrat. But this year, i am proudly casting my vote for Vice PresidentKamala Harris. As we meet here today, upper be public faces a threat unlike any we have faced before. A former president who attempted to stay in power by unraveling the foundations of our republic by refusing to accept the lawful results confirmed by dozens of courts of the 2020 election. We cannot turn away from this truth. In the selection, putting patriotism ahead of partisanship is not an aspiration. It is our duty. To state the obvious, dont agree with a lot of Liz Cheneys politics and i imagine a lot of you feel the same. I oppose just about everything she has advocated for in the course of her public life except one thing. The most important thing. This is someone who put her whole political career for future of the republican party, a party to which she was born. An aris in a sense. She put it on the line for or American Democracy. Someone who believes Donald Trump is the unique threat. Donald trump was willing to sacrifice our Dick Cheney allow Law Enforcement officers to be beaten and brutalized in his name, and to violate the law and the constitution in order to seize power for himself. I dont care if you are a democrat or a republican or an independent. That is depravity, and we must t never become numb to it. Any person who would do these things can never be trusted with power again. The Health And Future of American Democracy is clearly on the ballot this election. Just because something is important like whether we will be w a democracy or not, doesn mean its good campaign fodder. There is reason to believe thatr just like two years ago, running on this core message, we are americans. We are a democracy and want to keep it going, thats a winning message. This is a graph from 2022, the Greenline Shows president Bidens Approval Rating from the time he took office in 2021 to september 2022. You can see it was going steadily down until The End of that summer, 2022, when it picks up and reverses course. Ck see that tick up there . This trend came in the wake of the supreme Courts Decision at The End of june overturning roe v. Wade. Of course, for the course, millions of americans watched eight hearings held by the January 6 committee. With the midterm elections approaching, President Biden and democrats saw the mood of Tn The Country was in they ran on a those issues, abortion and democracy. Remember just ahead of labor day weekend, remember this speech . President biden delivered this primetime address in front of independence hall, warning that our democracy was at stake. For a long time, we have told ourselves that American Democracy is guaranteed. But, it is not. We have to defend it. Protect it. Stand up for it. Each and every one of us. That is why tonight i am asking our nation to come together, unite behind the singlepurpose of defending our democracy regardless of your ideology. [ applause ] remember at the time, the discourse around this. It was not clear if that message would work. Sort of an open question. There were people out there who thought it was out of Touch Or Tone deaf or elitist that real people really only cared about grocery prices. They were wrong. Biden and democrats defy the expectations of pulled off a historic win for a still relatively unpopular incumbent president. The Democrats Bet and one go two years ago on the idea that its condescending to think that ordinary people, plumbers, cabdrivers, teachers, nurses dont understand or care about democracy. Thats too highfalutin for them . Working people deal without a lot of money and people without formal education, they are smart. In fact, the reason we have a democracy in the first place is because we trust that All Of Us can make these decisions. I think the majority of people of all different kinds of walks of life, different levels of formal education, credentials, dont want a dictatorship. I think if you force the issue in those terms, the pro Democracy Side wins. That was the Message And Workedw in 2022 and so here we are again this time around, The Other Side knows, believe me they know, that January 6, the images of the man bashing the cops brains in, the attempt To S Overthrow The American Republic is a enormous political viability. Instead of admitting to it, they are desperately trying to run away from it. Did he lose a 2020 election . Tim, im focused on the future. Did Kamala HarrisCensor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 covid situation . That is a damning nonanswer. That is a damning nonanswer. The republican House Whip has been running around blaming the media, its the medias fault, for being obsessed with Donald Trumps attempted coup. Did you think you would get that question . Did you talk about how to answer the 2020 question . 0 listen, this is a, again, answered it. T. You dont like the answer but he answered it. This is something you folks in the media want to focus on a regular basis. The american people, and thank Goodness J. D. Vance Donald Trump, focused on the election and how to fix x this country. Again, we are talking about an i election that will take place in 35 days. What are you doing talking, something that four years ago . Donald trump is still talking about it with all due respect. The people are hurting. That is a tell. You dont have to be particularly read in politics to understand the gentleman on the right doesnt want to talk about it because its bad for him. The guy who is his boss effectively summoned a violent mob to end American Democracy. Want to change the subject because they understand the majority of the country wants to preserve American Democracy. Donald trump himself is a different story. He is too obsessed with the whole thing to ever drop it. It was a rigged election. You have to tell Kamala Harris, thats why i am doing it again. If i thought i lost, wouldnt be doing this again. You know where i would be . On the beaches of Monte Carlo or someplace. You see that little thing we put on the screen to let you know . That was today. Were not running file footage. Today in saginaw, michigan, a few days after Tom Emmer was yelling how the media is obsessed about it Donald Trump is talking about the recollection. Theres a reason it does not work and its what the pro Democracy Message has been no matter the background, education level, our positions have thinks, i think americans believe fundamentally, majority of is one the democratic experiment to continue. Here we are 33 days to go. Trump and his authoritarian names on the ballot once again. J. D. Vance pledging to do whatever it takes on Donald Trumps behalf up to and including overturning elections. Hes on the record. With the help of the supreme court, trump is trying to wipe his crimes against the country from voters minds. On the debate stage, his Running Mate refused to tell tens of millions of americans if he would help Donald Trump to it again. In the last 24 hours, we have t new evidence from special prosecutor Jack Smith on Hoffer Trump was willing to go to foment the coup in January 6. Tonight, the birthplace of the republican party, Liz Cheney stood up to remind as he is really going to try to do it again. If we come together as a prop democracy coalition, we can stop it. We have a shared commitment. A shared commitment as americans to ensuring that future generations live in a nation where power is transferred peacefully. Where our leaders are men and women of good faith and where our public servants set aside partisan battles to do what is right for this country. I ask you to meet this moment. I ask you to stand in truth, to reject the depraved cruelty of Donald Trump. I may live to eat these words. I dont know the future and No One Else does. I am willing to put my faith on the american people in this argument that we want to be a democracy. And not a Donald Trump dictatorship. Officer Michael Fanone and the sergeant were both Police Officers and defended the capitol on January 6. He has toured the country with a group speaking out against american extremism and the author of hold the line, the insurrection one cants battle for american soul. Is a Council Marriage Author of american shield, the surgeon who defended democracy and a new oped titled January 6 was one of the worst days of my life, and i do not want to see it happen again. They both join me now. Its wonderful to have you here. Sergeant, let me start with you and get your reaction to two things j. D. Vance said. First that he would not say who won the 2020 election and then even more audacious lie where he said, for all the whining you democrats are doing, they peacefully transferred power in january 20, so its a big deal . Thank you for having me. To that, i say January 6 was not peaceful. Peaceful is doing a handshake and wishing the other party well. For the good of the country. January 6, which we encountered was the violence that maga republicans in the former president , the leading candidate who now is proposing to do it all over again on another January 6. All the sacrifices we did to protect those elected officials, j. D. Vance was not there at the capitol on January 6, fortunately for him. I could see him running just like Josh Hawley did on January 6 while we were protecting them from being harmed. Its a desecration of our sacrifices that we did on that day. I want to get your thoughts of what went through your mind w as you saw j. D. Vance very blithely dismissed the whole thing. Spirit j. D. Vance is a liar. He is Donald Trumps useful idiot and he will Say Anything to appease Donald Trump. At The End of the day, what ive come to learn about j. D. Vance is he is a pure opportunist. He is looking to further his own political career, just like so many other republicans in m this moment, that Donald Trump is dangerous. Who know that Donald Trump is a disgrace. But they are willing to allow themselves will pay fealty to him to further their l own political careers so at The End of the day, like i said, j. D. Vance is a liar. January 6 was brutal. It was violent. Law enforcement Officers Were severely beaten. Myself and Sergeant Aguilino gonell included. That is the reality of January 6. Sergeant aguilino gonell, want to quote from your oped then asked. Patriotism is in targeting Noncitizen Voting which is extremely rare. Its defending democracy from the threats of extremism and the possibility of another January 6. Youre an immigrant who served your adopted country, served this nation, you work as a Capitol Police Officer and defended the capitol on the day. As you watch this demonization of immigrants from the people that want to be in power once again, this scaremongering, file libel, and the Memory Hauling of January 6, what do you think . Spin i mean, its unfortunately, they have even tried to pass the Save Act Ie which is a Maga Project 2025 project. Legislation they want to pass where immigrants will be stripped of their naturalization. Protected status, legal status. Its very unfortunate. Here i am, possibly the Poster Child of what republican used to say of the type of immigrant they want in this country. Somebody who comes here legally, somebody gets an education, somebody who would join the military. Somebody who would go to war and then come back and become a Police Officer and continue to defend the nation. On the Capitol Steps and instead of saying thank you for your service and i am glad to nd have you here, they have not even sat down with either myself, Michael Fanone or the other Capitol Police Officers who defended the capitol to say, tell us about your experience and we will support you. When they say they support the police, thats a nice slogan that i dont buy any more. They support every other cops, everyer Police Officer except f Capitol Police and those who responded on January 6 to protect the elected officials who were running for their lives because the mob that their candidate, their leader sent to attack on January 6. That is infuriating that they scapegoat the immigrants like myself. Michael, gotten to know you a little bit over the past few years and we talked a bit. I want to ask about this idea which is a little insidious, i , dont know, only out of Touch Elites care about democracy. Defending democracy. You are from maryland and you u lived in a rural area and a conservative area and you were a baltimore Police Officer worked undercover. I think you were a badetective one point. I wonder what you think about wo that idea that real people dont care about this. This is a concern of cloistered elites. No disrespect to baltimore city police, but i was in d. C. Listen, i dont know when i went to the capitol January 6, the furthest thing on my mind was protecting democracy. I went to the capitol to support my fellow officers, Officers W who were screaming Distress Calls over the radio because they were assaulted by Donald Trumps supporters. In the aftermath of January 6, obviously, ive come to understand much better what our democracy is, what it takes to sustain