Particular, what youre talking about, about j. D. Vance, i feel like thats more so more true than ever this year. Yeah. They dont typically matter. But this one may. Yeah. Ne and we dont know which j. D. Vance we may know but we really dont know which one will come Tomorrow Night. So, well see. Ive got a big Rachel Maddow Show style spiel, a big Story T that i think people dont know about vance coming up a little later on in the show. Va oh, good. Thats my Homework Assignment for tonight. Well be watching. T. Thank you, jen. Much appreciated. Thanks at home for joining us this hour. This is one of those News Day where everything is busting out all over. Er theres a lot going on. And a lot of the big news in the country and the world is still developing tonight. So, i have to tell you, tonightn we are keeping our eyes trained on the middle east. A significant expansion in the conflict between Israel And Hezbollah in hebb non. Hezbollah, of course, is the iranbacked Militia Group thats based in lebanon. They are a key ally of hamas. Hezbollah and israel have been Trading Fire for months across the border of those two countries since the Hamas Attack in israel last october. You will also recall that earlier this month, israel, sort of, opened a new foray there. They launched attacks in lebanon that killed dozens of hezbollah members, Injured Thousands of other people, including civilians. Israel then ramped up Air Strikes across lebanon, which killed hundreds of people and displaced hundreds of thousands. They then killed the leader of hezbollah. Well, earlier today, israeli troops were seen massing on the ground near the lebanese border. And now israel has reportedly launched a Ground Incursion over the border Inside Lebanon. This is a big deal. Two u. S. Official telling Nbc News that an israeli Ground Operation has, in fact, begun tonight Inside Lebanon. U. S. Officials have been blunt about the fact that they fear operations like this could sink the whole region into further l and more widespread fighting and chaos. But, again, the news tonight, the developing story, we are keeping our eyes on it. Israeli troops on the ground Inside Lebanon tonight. Ill keep you posted as we learn more. Here at home tonight, news of every imaginable Shape And Size. Tomorrow, of course, is the Vice President ial debate, which is always an interesting point, always, kind of, an unpredictable wildcard in any president ial election because of these two vp candidates this year. I feel like this time at least i submit for your consideration this time, that it will may be worth thinking a little bit harder than usual about this particular debate in advance before it happens. Eb so, as i mentioned to jen at the top of the hour, ive got a lot more coming up on that later on in the show this hour, in particular something that you might not know, something you might have heard about but you might not really know about j. D. Vance in particular. So, weve been working on that I Story for a long time. I have to tell you, ive debated with myself a long time about whether or not to do this story. But its the eve of the debate. Its time to do it. We are going to do it. Thats still ahead later on in the show tonight. We also got major News Today from the fbi, which Just O released its report on Violent Crime in america for the first S Half of this year. According to that new fbi is report, Violent Crime is significantly down in the country for the first half of this year, down by more than 10 . In fact, its down by every metric in the report. Aggravated assault down 8 , robbery down 13 , rape down 17 , murder down more than 22 . So, as donald Trump And J. D. Vance campaign for president and Vice President by saying that america is a crimeinfested hellscape because of Joe Biden and kamala harris, this new report from the fbi may play a role in the Debate Tomorrow, may play a role in the campaign in general. But regardless of the politics, it is good news for the country full stop. Were also watching the ports right now on the East Coast and on the Gulf Coast where the Longshoremans Union has a contract that expires tonight at midnight. And that is really important for the whole country. Theres about 47,000 longshoremen in that union. And in a lot of ways, they are a lynchpin in The American economy at large. The ports along the East Coast and the Gulf Coast that bring goods into this country, those ports literally cant operate without the longshoremen. E and it has been decades since this union has gone on strike. If this strike happens, if it is prolonged, it has real potentiai to cause serious Chaos And Disruption in The American economy, potentially leading to very visible consequences for americans doing their everyday shopping, shortages in the stores, price increases. And that of course would all be happening just a few weeks before the president ial ju election. If this strike happens, its estimated that it will cost the u. S. Economy about 4 Billion every day that it goes on. Again, unless there is a th lastminute agreement at the bargaining table, that potentially very consequential strike is expected to begin tonight at midnight. Like i said, news of every Shape And Size right now, including a lot thats going to be developing over the course of this evening. Weve also still got eyes on georgia, specifically on a gians toxic Gas Plume in rockdale ci county, georgia, east of atlanta. You probably saw the news early yesterday morning. There was a fire that erupted at a Chemical Plant in conyers, georgia. La that fire at the Chemical Plant produced this giant poisonous chlorine cloud. And this isnt out in the middle of nowhere. This is in very well populated georgia. In the immediate aftermath of the fire, Interstate 20 had to d be Shut Down in both directions. I20 has since reopened. But more than 24 hours after thn initial fire, there are still more than 90,000 people who are still under stayathome orders as of today, people who are being advised to not open their windows, not open their doors, not turn on their air conditioning, nothing, all to prevent exposure to these poisonous chlorine fumes. That said, that order has just been lifted, but it was in effect for most of the day today. A very consequential, again, Chemical Plant fire and toxic Gas Plume. And then of course on top of all of that, we have just been consumed in what has happened in the wake of hurricane helene, which has killed at least 121 people across six different states. It has left extensive damage in its wake, particularly in beautiful western North Carolina. The region that has endured what one local official described asf quote, biblical devastation. More than 300,000 people are without power in North Carolina tonight. R the epicenter of the damage in North Carolina appears to be Bunken County, particularly the lovely and historic city of asheville. Is at least 40 people have died in Bunken County alone. More than 600 Missing Persons reports were filed as of last night. Roads and bridges, homes and businesses, have just been washed away. Ha The City of Ashevilles Water System has taken extreme damage. Officials said today that full restoration of Ashevilles Water could take weeks. And as you know, a place without water is pretty much uninhabitable. The mayor of asheville has described Power Lines in The City as looking like spaghetti. Power down and all the other damage has knocked out cell service. That, in particular, has hampered recovery efforts. North carolinas governor, roy cooper, was on the ground in Asheville Today surveying the wa damage, meeting with first da responders. His assessment coming out of there was grim. He said, quote, the devastation was beyond belief. Te and even when you prepare for something like this, this is just something that has never happened before in western North Carolina. Joining us now live, im honored to say, is the governor of North Carolina, roy cooper. Governor cooper, i know you are really in the middle of it. Thank you for taking the time to be with us tonight to help us Understand whats going on. Thank you, rachel. Glad to be here. Weve all covered a lot of storms, a lot of hurricanes, a lot of devastating inland flooding. Even still it feels like the scale of this is just something qualitatively different. Can you tell us a little bit about how i guess the scale of it and how this compares to other things that youve had too contend with in your time in leadership . Ive seen a lot of storms and aftermath of storms. Ive never seen anything like this. S this is an unprecedented disaster. But we are meeting it with an unprecedented response. We have 92 Search And Rescue teams out now rescuing People Aa we speak. Were working closely with fema. Theyve been on the ground with me all day today. They delivered A Million liters of water, 600,000 meals, hundreds and hundreds of pallets are being air lifted to communities that are completely Cut Off from the ground because they are surrounded by water. We know that there are a lot of people hurting. When you dont have power, when you dont have Cell Phone Service, when you dont have water, this is a catastrophic situation for you. And we are coordinating federal, state, local nonprofits into helping the western part of North Carolina. You know, this is rugged terrain on beautiful Blue Sky days. But after these landslides and raging rivers like we have never seen before, some of our communities are completely wiped out. And its really emotional, particularly to people in North Carolina and people from all over the country who go frequently, just seeing the devastation here. But ive talked to people today. There is a real strength there. Nurses sleeping in hospitals, restaurants serving free meals, hotels offering their rooms to first responders, people working in the Parking Lot passing out water at churches. Hu people are pulling together. Were going to get through this. But we have a lot of work to do in the short term and a lot of recovery in the long term. Rescue comes before recovery, as you said. 92 Search And Rescue teams out. Tonight, as we speak. Is there any place that Search And Rescue teams are still having trouble getting to . Are there impassable are there places that they cant get to . Are there resources that could help, again, the Rescue Teams that you dont have that you T Need . Well, we have Rescue Teams from all over the country right now, from over 20 states, federal Rescue Teams. Our National Guard is deployed. We have over 700 activated. Were taking Phone Calls from people who havent heard from their friends or relatives and doing well checks on them to make sure they are okay. And if you cant get to them byh land, then we are using aircraft to get in there. There have been a number of aire rescues, actually hundreds of air rescues, because areas have been Cut Off. Were going to keep pouring in the resources. This is going to have to be a ce sustained response talking with the president A Couple Of Times today, talking with the Vice President , the Fema Director is on the ground. Shes going to stay in North Carolina. She and i will be in the western part of the state tomorrow. We know that this is going to require everything we have to get these roads open as quickly as we can, to get Cell Phone Service up, to get power on to people, to make sure that people have food and water, people are working around the clock, Real Heroes who have damage to their own homes are out there working giving medical assistance to people, working in first response. It is amazing, heartbreaking, and encouraging at the same time to see everybody working together so, so well right now. O North Carolina governor roy cooper, we know that your state is really right now. Thank you for taking time to help us Understand. R good luck. Stay in touch if there are things to get the word Out Abou or things to ask for that you ge need, let us know. To thank you so much, rachel. We do have word from the s White House that president biden, you just heard Governor Cooper say hes going to be back in western North Carolina tomorrow. President biden is scheduled to visit the state the day after tomorrow, on wednesday. All right. Up next, something that i have been debating for a few weeks now whether or not to do on the show. But i feel like, well, if not me, who . Its not coming up in other places. I, sort of, feel like we all need to know it. Fe so, now is the time. Ow on the eve of the Vice President ial Debate Tomorrow, i feel like now is the time, so were going to do it. Settle in. Right on the other side of thise break, i have a Story To tell you. It is one, i will confess right now, it is a Story That gives me the ughs big time. But weve got to do it. Ig got to know. That storys next. Introducing a revolution in Pain Relief. Absorbine junior pro, the strongest numbing Pain Relief available. Its the only solution with two Max Strength anesthetics for fast penetrating Relief Absorbine junior pro. Nothing numbs pain more. Okay. This is one of those stories. You ready for it . Here we go. His name was Charles R. Walgreen. He lived in illinois. As a young man he worked at a Shoe Factory. But in an accident at the factory, he got injured and lost a finger. Just a terrible thing. Because of that he had to give up the Shoe Factory job, so he started working instead as an Assistant Pharmacist at a drugstore in his hometown. He had to go off and fight in the Spanish American War in cuba. While he was in cuba, he got both malaria and yellow fever, neither of which is any fun. But he survived both of them. And he came back to the u. S. After the Spanish American War, came back to the Chicago Area and decided he would keep going with the pharmacy stuff. So, he opened up his own drugstore. But it wasnt just a drugstore. Charles walgreens big retail innovation was that, yes, he operated a pharmacy, but his pharmacy would also sell stuff other than drugs. Theyd be a place you could also get a sandwich or a Milk Shake or buy other stuff you mighT Need for your house. And with that model, mr. Walgreen was wildly successful. By the 1920s, he had over 100 Walgreens Drugstores by. By the 1930s, he had hundreds more drugstores. And by the 1930s, he was also very deeply freaked Out About his niece, specifically about his niece, lucille, being exposed to free love and communism. Charles walgreens niece, lucille, had gone off to the University Of Chicago, great school. But when she came home from school, she and her rich Uncle Walgreen apparently started having what he called frequent arguments. Heres the new york times, april 12, 1935 you see the headline. Cr walgreen takes niece from college. Charles r. Walgreen has caused his niece to withdraw as a student at the University Of Chicago and has written a letter criticizing the institution for its communistic influence. His letter was sent to president hutchins in the university. Copies were mailed to the universitys trustees. This turned into a big famous thing at the time. There was a whole bunch of Newspaper Coverage about it at the time. You can see the headlines here. Walgreen Answers University of chicago, asking facts. Promises proof of communism. Heres another. University of Chicago Head demands data on charge of radical teachings. Attack is called vague. Heres another. Legislators hear walgreen charge. He asserts University Of Chicago taught communism. Free love is also alleged. Oh, no, not free love they actually did Hold A Hearing in the State Legislature in illinois on this scandal of the Walgreens Guy taking his niece out of college. The drugstore Guys Niece was exposed to free love and communism, so the State Legislature had to convene a hearing. The hearing was dominated by walgreens Expert Witness who he had called to testify on his behalf. Her name was Elizabeth Dilling. And she really took over the hearing and turned it into a big spectacle. She demanded that no one be allowed to silence her. She said she would continue her testimony on the radio if they told her her time was up in the legislative hearing. She said she knew, she had lists of all the communists at the University Of Chicago. She also mentioned she had lists of u. S. Senators who she knew were communists as well. She said the president of the Board Of Trustees at the University Of Chicago, who was, like, a Millionaire Meat Packing guy. She said, he was not only a communist, but she said, he was a communist, of, quote, the cream puff type. A Meat Packing Millionaire cream puff communist. Yeah. That was Elizabeth Dilling. The hearing that she testified at was, sort of, wild. The a. P. Described it as fist swinging, hooting, cheering, and heckling. Elizabeth Dillings Husband was there. He punched out a guy from the Antidefamation League at the hearing. It was crazy. Charles walgreen arguing with his niece goes from that to a full blown state legislative hearing on whether the University Of Chicago should be Shut Down by the state as a subversive organization. And even though that crusade by Uncle Walgreen did not work to Shut Down the University Of Chicago, the crusade, sort of, caught on. After the Walgreens University of chicago thing, the same Expert Witness, Elizabeth Dilling, got a call from Henry Ford of the ford motor company. He paid Elizabeth Dilling 5,000 to come to michigan to expose all the evil communists at the University Of Michigan and try to get the University Of MichiganShut Down as well. Then it was california. The Los Angeles Chamber of commerce paid Elizabeth Dilling to come to southern california, where she assured everyone that she had confirmed that ucla was a hot bed of communism, presumably also free love. She did the same thing at cornell. She did the same thing at northwestern, trying to get all of these universities Shut Down. They wanted all of these universities Shut Down, as evil, subversive, communist institutions. They did not get the university Shut Down. But a lot of very rich, very influential people were working on this. This is what they thought was a main stream political project. As weird as it sounds, this is a thing they really put at the center of their agenda. And the expert who they had work on all these campaigns, Elizabeth Dilling, she was a piece of work on her own. Not to put too fine a point on it, but she was a huge fan of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party. Before we got into World War ii, the nazis in germany paid her expenses for her to repeatedly visit germany and go back to the u. S. And praise the Nazi Party and hitlers leadership. The german press had a nickname for Elizabeth Dilling. They called her the female fuhrer. She wrote a series of wildly antisemitic books about how jews were secretly plotting to rise up against the world. She was put on trial for sedition in 1944. When the trial dragged on for months, the judge allowed her to take breaks from attending the trial every day so she could go back to her Day Job to pay the bills. Her Day Job was helping organize political rallies for the Americafirst Party where her specific job was leading the crowd in antisemitic songs, which she wrote herself. Elizabeth dilling was bananas. But this crusade to Shut Down the universities, to expose universities of subversive institutions that have to be Shut Down if were going to save america, this has been sort of a recurring thing on the farright for a long time. I mean, that all happened in the 30s. But when Barry Goldwater was the republican nominee for president in 1964, one of the minor scandals in his campaign which had a lot of scandals is that his campaign employed a fulltime Campaign Worker whose organization had been Shut Down by the u. S. Government during World War ii because it was an american fascist organization. The Guys Name was Allen Zoll. He reorganized himself into something called the national council for american education, which investigated american universities for subversion and tried to shut them down for being communist or whatever. He put out pamphlets with titles like they want your child. Allen zoll also somewhat famously testified in congress that Felix Frankfurter Shouldnt be approved as a Supreme Court justice, specifically because he was jewish. He said that was the grounds which he thought he shouldnt be confirmed. The Shut Down the Universities Thing has been an obsession on the far right on and off for a very long while. And its most famous proponents have just not been the best people. Just objectively, they have mostly been associated with not just the far right but literally with fascism. Allen Zolls Organization was banned by the u. S. Government as a fascist group. Elizabeth dilling was a fascist Nazi And Hitler enthusiast who spent her Life Crusading against jewish people and who was put on trial for sedition, right . The Shut Down the Universities Thing does not have a good pedigree on The American far right. But it comes up in a recurring way. And we do have some new proponents of it now, which i think we should all be aware of, particularly ahead of tomorrows Vice President ial Candidates Debate. I think if any of us want to do the things that we want to do for our country and for the people who live in it, we have to honestly and aggressively attack the universities in this country. Ladies and gentlemen, the universities do not pursue knowledge and truth. They pursue deceit and lies, and its time to be honest about that fact. Of course i imagine that i dont have to convince any more of any of you that this is preposterous, that the university in our country are fundamentally corrupt and dedicated to deceit and lies. Our universities are so committed to some of the most preposterous dishonesties in the world. J. D. Vance is now the republican nominee for Vice President of the united states. This is a speech he gave not that long ago. The title of the speech was the universities are the enemy. He gave the speech less than three years ago in florida. But the theme of this speech, this is, sort of, a recurring thing for him. You come to america, you learn america is an evil place. You go to harvard and put your preferred pronounces in your bio and learn to hate people in the heartland. 41 Million of money, a lot of that is going to aggressively promote left wing radicalism. Harvard university funds some of the antiradical stuff thats out there. Harvard University Endowment pays a 0 tax rate. Maybe its time to pay The Endowment, penalize The Endowments for being on the wrong side of these cultural war issues. So, yes, i think there are ways for us to seize The Endowments. We just have to be willing to actually do it. Right. I like that answer. I like that answer. This is a Podcast Interview that j. D. Vance did, again, not that long ago. Elizabeth dilling didnt succeed in shutting down the university of Chicago Or University of michigan or ucla. The fascist zealot Allen Zoll who tried it in 1949. But j. D. Vance has a plan to do it now, at least to seize Harvards Endowment and then see what happens. And he has a plan to do this as part of a larger plan to destroy all the things which conservatives dont have complete control over. And its not just the universities, which has, again, on and off for a century, been a topic of concern of the far right. But it also, for j. D. Vance, includes the private sector, businesses. Here he is in that same interview explaining that the right wing needs to start doing stuff thats really, really, really radical, including to businesses. And both j. D. Vance and his interviewer both clearly find this very exciting. Capital money itself is increasingly taking a side in the culture war, and its not our side. Its not the side that i want to win. Unless youre willing to make these people feel like theres no serious way to fight back against it. The only way to pushback against this stuff in a real way is to make these companies feel like im in pain. There are a lot of ideas out there of how to do it. If youre not recognizing this moment, how crazy things have gotten and how outside the box we need to think, i think youre ultimately not really serious about taking back the country. Look, i agree, we are in a late republican period. If were going to push back against it, we have to get pretty wild and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with. Indeed. Ive got to say, among my circle, the phrase extraconstitutional has come up a bit. We do need to take an aggressive stance, a muscular stance. Were going to have to become a little bit more robust in our behavior. Yeah. Thats exactly right. And look, you know, i i think that whats so difficult about this moment for conservatives is that we love the country so much that we dont want to admit to ourselves how far gone things are, right . And i hear this from a lot of conservatives. Look, it is still the best country in the world. But we are accelerating very, very quickly to a place that none of us want to go. And its really time to Wake Up. Keep talking about extra constitutional. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were accelerating to a place we really dont want to go. Were in a late republican period. He doesnt mean capital r republican, he means were at The End of us being a republic. J. D. Vance has not only to conservatives to, in his words, Wake Up. But what they need to Wake Up to is the fact that most of american Life And Culture should be, in his words, ripped out like a tumor. Those are, again, his words, not mine. Watch. Our leaders right now are so corrupt and so vile that if you assimilate into their culture, youre assimilating into, like, garbage liberal elite culture. Youre not assimilating into traditional american culture. So, this is a tough, tough pickle for me. I dont even know what the right answer is here because you cant just teach these things. You cant teach that we live in a great country if the leaders are actually aligned against it. Almost the thing you need to do, Step One in the process, is to totally replace, like, rip out like a tumor, the current american Leadership Class and then reinstall some sense of american political religion. We need to rip it out like a tumor and then install political religion. The man who is interviewing j. D. Vance here gets very excited about this idea, and it leads this is important here. It leads j. D. Vance to explain, sort of, influences on his thoughts, where he gets his ideas on subjects like this. You said something that i would like to zero down on. How do we effectively, quote, rip out the disgusting Leadership Class . Oh, man. I mean, you know because let me expand on that just a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Im going to give you a little cover here. Its not just i mean, obviously elections. Thats one thing, okay . But unfortunately, this evil Leadership Class has already taken over all of our institutions. Current pipeline is to turn them into those people that we just called evil and disgusting. How do we, aside from elections how do we rip out this Leadership Class . So, these institutions are corrupted and rotten to the core. This ideology is everywhere and in all the things. What other options do we have besides voting them out, which were seeing is ineffectual. This is a tough question but this is maybe the question that confronts us right now. Theres this guy, curtis yashin, whos written about some of these things. Theres this guy, curtis, whos written about some of these things. Youre asking, hey, we dont want elections anymore. Voting is ineffectual. We want to destroy the whole thing, not only the system of government, but the whole american system like were ripping out a tumor. How do we do that specifically, whereupon vance gets uncomfortable, buys himself a little time, and says, yeah, theres this guy, Curtis Yarvin, who writes about this stuff. A chuckle from the interviewer. This is Curtis Yarvin who j. D. Vance is citing here as he is talking about the need to seize the universities, destroy use the government to destroy businesses who arent right wing, talking abouT Needing to rip out The American system like a tumor. Heres the guy he is citing as his, sort of the source of his thinking on these matters. So, ive raised this very complicated problem to a simple four Letter Acronym which is r. A. G. E. , which stands for retire all government employees. Very, very, very simple. Now, the problem with this is, why have we never heard this before . Why has no one suggested lets get rid of this thing. What is government . A government is just a corporation enjoying the country. Nothing more, nothing less. It so happens in our corporation, very poorly managed. And there is a very simple way to replace them which is what we do when all corporations have failed. We simply believe them. We havent been able to do that. We should delete the u. S. Government because its stale. It has been around for too long. We havent been able to do that, meaning delete our government, for 200 years, so its gotten a bit stale. Its been around too long. So, what would that entail, deleting the u. S. Government . The other thing about getting rid of your government is you cant just say, well, the limits of the government are the limits of the formal government. You have to say, well, what is the system actually . And it includes a lot of things, ngos, universities. Its very, very large system. And it all needs to be destroyed. Theres Lite Of Talented Americans who actually know how to run things and make things work and are generalists. And you can get these people, put them in positions of responsibility and have them do their thing. And finally, you need a ceo. A ceo is called a dictator. Its the same thing. Theres no difference between the ceo and a dictator. If americans want to change their government, theyre going to have to get over their dictator phobia. So, the Vice President ial Candidates Debate is tomorrow. Tim walz, the democratic candidate, has been governor, is currently the governor of minnesota. Hes been a longterm congressman, high school teacher, football coach, a soldier for decades. J. D. Vance, the republican candidate, is a different kind of cat forgive me. Aside from a Brief Stint in the marine corps, where he served with the Public Affairs unit, he has spent his adult life working for or being supported by right Wing Tech billionaires, specifically ones who have devoted themselves to the political teachings of this guy. Finally, you need a ceo and an actual ceo is whats called a dictator. Its the same thing. I have debated whether or not to talk about this on the show because i feel like it gives me the ughs. But i also feel like this is an important thing to know about the republicans Vice President ial nominee and what he has to offer and why he was brought on to the ticket despite his palpable lack of political skill or lackbility, his lack of any Track Record in politics whatsoever, and after he spent less than two years in the only public office hes ever held, which is a senate seat, that he only barely won thanks to one of those eccentric Tech Billionaires giving him the single largest Senate Campaign Donation in the history of this country. I mean, he comes wholly from this very, very obscure, eccentric, right Wing Subculture of Tech Billionaires. And his relationship with this eccentric Silicon Valley pro Dictatorship Philosophy has been pretty widely discussed in print. These are a whole bunch of articles. Ive discussed this at one level or another. Its been discussed in print. But i dont feel like its widely understood by the country who is paying attention to this guy as a candidate. But this is where j. D. Vances big ideas come from about where the country is heading for. Quote, vance is friends with Curtis Yarvin, who he openly cites as a political influence. Yarvin, the main political influence on all of the people who have supported j. D. Vance throughout his career, including paying to install him in the u. S. Senate. When j. D. Vance says stuff like, were in a late republican period which is something he says all the time he doesnt mean anything about the republican party. He means were at the time right before the Roman Republic collapsed. And what happened after the Roman Republic collapsed . Well, a dictator, caesar, came in. And wasnt that better . He talks about being in a late republican period all the time. Thats him channelling this guy, yarvin. When vance says, universities are the enemy and they should be seized, hes not only channelling Elizabeth Dilling and Allen Zoll and all the weird far right crusaders against the universities from the 30s and 40s. That would be troubling enough. Hes also channelling this guy, yarvin, who says while we are firing all the government employees, we should do the same to the universities because theyre all part of the bigger system that all needs to be destroyed. He says, quote, retire their employees, liquidate their assets. Universities in particular have lovely campuses, many of which are centrally located and should be attractive to developers. Meaning lets put somebody in to be a what does he call it a national ceo, which is indistinguishable from a dictator. And a dictator should take over all the universities and sell them off to developers. This is literally a Prodictatorship Promonarchy Philosophy this is not just about ending the u. S. System of government, deleting the u. S. Government, but then using the power of a dictator to dismantle universities, dismantle businesses, to dismantle all of civil society, to instead install a whole new system controlled by the state that serves just the desires of the dear leader. Tomorrow at the debate, it is going to come up that j. D. Vance wants national Abortion Ban. Its going to come up that he has told and continues to tell horrible lies about immigrants. It is going to come up that he has said his Running Mate was americas hitler, his phrase, and cultural heroin, and that trumps presidency was a failure. Its going to come up his involvement in project 2025 is going to come up. His proposal that people without children should be taxed more and should have their votes count less, it will all come up at tomorrows debate. What do you do with this stuff . Step one in the process is to totally replace, like, rip out like a tumor the current american Leadership Class. Republicans, conservatives, were still terrified of wielding power, of actually doing the job people sent us here to do. Finally, you need a ceo. And an actual ceo is whats called a dictator. Its the same thing. Weve got to get comfortable with wielding power. Theres no difference between the ceo and dictator. If americans want to change their government, they have to get over dictator phobia. Going to have to get over their dictator phobia. What do you do with this level of radicalism, trying to take over in washington right now and trying to convince the far right that theyve got to stop being afraid of wielding this kind of power this way . What do you do with this . At the Debate Tomorrow and the campaign in general . I dont know. But weve got to do something with it. Watch this space. Ah, these bills are crazy. She has no idea shes sitting on a goldmine. 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But donald trumps plan could ban ivf in some states. My husband is in the military. He volunteered to serve. We are patriots and we go where he is assigned. What if we end up in a state where ivf is no longer legal . What will we do then . Im kamala harris, and a i approve this message. What will we do then . Despite trump claims that the party is now totally cool with Ivf And Nobody has anything to worry about anymore, project 2025, the right Wing Blueprint created by Trump Allies for a second trump administration, opens the door to banning Fertility Treatments. And of course conservatives in alabama already tried it. In the wake of that debacle in alabama, in washington, d. C. , almost every single republican in The American senate has now voted twice against having federal legal protections for ivf. Trumps Running Mate, senator jd vance, voted for it once. He didnt show up for the bill, the second time. He called the bill, quote, ridiculous. For his Vice President ial opponent, Tim Walz, whos going to face j. D. Vance on the Debate Stage tomorrow, this Ivf Issue is personal. Tim walz and his wife had years of Fertility Treatments. J. D. Vance has accused Tim Walz of lying about how his children were conceived. Wow, stay classy, senator. But i just want to highlight this. I think the Harriswaltz Campaign has even shown even with ads like this one, arguably the best ad so far, they have shown that Fertility Treatment is deeply personal to so many american families and also incredibly potent as a political issue. So, its a sleeper, i think, but it is one to watch for at tomorrows debate. All right. Well be right back. The biggest and most wonderful news in the state of georgia right now is that Jimmy Carter, son of georgia, former president of the united states, beloved american statesman and hero, Jimmy Carter turns 100 years young tomorrow. Happy birthday to President Carter and the family who loves him so much. We are lucky to have him with us every day, but at 100 years old tomorrow, we are luckier than we ever dreamed wed be with him. Also in georgia, big News Today from the courts in two ways but actually from the same courtroom, from the same judge, at the center of both of these stories. The first one is an important abortion ruling. Tonight georgias Abortion Ban was struck down. Fulton County Judge Robert mcbernie struck down georgias sixweek ban after the conservative majority on the u. S. Supreme Court Georgia started enforcing a De Facto total ban on all abortions in the state, a ban on all abortions after six weeks. But with this Ruling Today Abortion is now legal again in georgia, up to 22 weeks of pregnancy. The ban is gone. That ban was in place long enough to lead directly to the death of at least two young women living in georgia, women who could not access the Health Care they needed to save their lives because of that Abortion Ban. So this milestone ruling today getting rid of georgias Abortion Ban, it is a really big deal on the facts and the policy for the people of georgia. Its also just the first thing in what is turning out to be a big Milestone Week for that specific judge, for judge mcburny, because tomorrow at 9 00 a. M. , hes going to oversee a bench trial, which will be live streamed, a trial over new Election Rules that were recently passed by the Maga Protrump Majority on Georgias State Election board. One rule requires State Officials to conduct a reasonable inquiry before they consent to certifying Election Results. It gives no explanation what counts as a reasonable inquiry. The other allows county officials to examine all electionrelated documentation before they certify a result. Democrats behind the lawsuit thats going to be heard tomorrow say that these rules could be used to upend the statutorily required process for certifying Election Results in georgia. But the Georgia Certification Issue has been Just Off the rails ever since the Promaga Majority took over of the state election board. That trial starts tomorrow at 9 00 a. M. It will be live streamed by way of fultoncourt. Org. Thats going to be a really interesting way to start the day. The question so much national focus on what its doing to essentially mess with its election processes before this important president ial election, well be able to see those changes, thoseilate changes to their processes get tested live streamed from the Fulton County court. Well be watching that. And then Tomorrow Night well all be busy together. Tomorrow join my colleagues and me here at msnbc for special coverage of the Vice President ial debate. It starts at 7 00 p. M. Eastern. The debate itself is hosted by cbs news, but you can to watch it here on msnbc with us. Well be showing the debate ourselves and well have highlights and Reaction And Analysis after. Our coverage begins at 7 00 p. M. Eastern. Well all be here through the whole duration. Way too early is up next. And the devastation wrought by this storm is incredible, so extensive. Nobody thought this would be