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Wednesday morning. Morning joe starts right now. New York City officials say drivers could expect the slowest traffic of the year, you know traffic is slow when biden says, im just going to get out and walk. [ laughter ] earlier today, President Biden delivered his final u. N. Address. Biden called for concern and then added do what the hell you want. I dont care anymore. Good morning, welcome to Morning Joe. Its wednesday, september 25th. Were going to bring you the big moments from President Bidens final u. N. Address, calling for Unity And Partnership, amid growing global turmoil. Meanwhile, Donald Trump continues to take a much different tone on worldwide issues including the russian invasion of ukraine. Hes also doubling down on his commitment to tariffs. Well play for you those comments. It all comes as Vice President Kamala Harris is set to give a major economic address and close the gap on Who Americans Trust more to handle the economy. Only with willie and me we have the host of Way Too Early Jonathan Lemire. Mike barnicle is with us, and president ial emeritus of formulations richard haass. Hes author of the weekly Newsletter Home and away available on substack. And correspondent for The New York Times Peter Baker is here in washington. And we begin this morning with another snapshot on the president ial race. A new poll from reuters and ipsos finds Vice President Kamala Harris with the lead over former President Donald Trump. In the Survey Harris leads trump by six points. 50 to 44 , among likely voters. Thats within the margin of error. She also leads by seven points among registered voters, a Twopoint Increase from her lead in a poll conducted earlier this month. And nbc News Poll released earlier this week also showed harris lead big trump by five points, 49 to 44 . Willie. Yeah. Its one of those pick your polls. Theres another poll yesterday, quinnipiac had a Tie Head to head. So, i think most people inside the Harris Campaign even though believe its a Sevenpoint Margin but perhaps they have now pulled ahead a bit. Probably for things like this. Donald trump saying again, migrants are taking over american towns. He says theyre now using weapons so sophisticated our military hasnt seen them before. During a Speech Yesterday in savannah, georgia, ostensibly about the economy, trump continued to demonize residents in colorado and ohio. In aurora, colorado, theyre taking over Real Estate. They have weapons that our military hasnt seen. In springfield, ohio, so, you have a town of 50,000 people. They have 32,000 migrants put into the town, almost overnight. And the people are so nice. You know, they want to be nice. They say, well, were the mayor is actually looking for interpreters. Hes looking all over for interpreters, because they cant understand. The language is totally different. What the hell. Im sorry, you have to move the people back to the country from which they came. So, Peter Baker, lets remind the haitian immigrants hes talking about in springfield, ohio, are here legally under temporary protected status. So, hes talking about legal immigrants being deported and inflating the number of haitians that have arrived in springfield by about double. This is a strategy. Its a mistake that an economic speech became a rant against immigrants. Its all about it, willie. Watching the trump rallies the last six or seven months. Its really a campaign. Thats the thing that strikes you. Trumps speech with economy, Foreign Policy, anything, is really all about immigration. You know, immigration, immigration, immigration. Inflation, immigration. Crime, immigration. You know, he just comes back to it again and again and again. Its really what informs his whole campaigns. What motivates him, animates him. He thinks he won on 2016 on the wall. Hes trying to replicate that eight years later. You know, its not a surprise, but i suppose its a very narrow argument that hes making. Because a lot of people actually would like to hear more thoughtful conversation about the economy. Of course, hes going to talk about springfield, ohio, and aurora, colorado, the two places hes most fixated on. And in that campaign statement, he once again undermines the support of America Fighting Ukraine in its fight against russia. I will prevent World War iii, youre very close to World War iii. Biden and kamala got us into this war. Now they cant get us out. I have watched him, we were win. Hes been saying that three years. Every time zelenskyy comes to the united states, he walks away with 100 billion. I think hes the greatest salesman on earth. But were stuck in that war, unless im president. Ill get it done, ill get it negotiated. Ill get out. Weve got to get out. Biden says we will not leave until we win. What happens if they win . Thats what they do, is they fight wars. As somebody told me the other day, they beat hitler, they beat napoleon, thats what they do. They fight. And its not pleasant. Okay. Richard haass, ill let you take this one. Theres a youre so welcome. I mean, what is this, again who is this for . Because i would say, globally, its shocking and frightening for our allies and friends. And in terms of trying to moot people in spring states, is this where we are . Is he tapping into something . He is tapping into something, mika, its a long tradition of american isolationism. Thats whats happening over there doesnt matter. Its cost. It takes resources away from what should be spent here. Thats essentially the tradition that hes tapping into. We saw it from World War ii and periodically other times with surprising intensity there. Two things when he talks about Russia And Napoleon and hitler. A fundamental difference, thats when russia was invaded. Thats when russia was fighting and its much important for putin than stalin to appeal to russia. I will say, trump, not in his defense, but ill say he makes one decent point. And its the question of what do we mean by winning in ukraine . It came up in the debate. It came up in president Bidens Speech. It came up in what President Zelenskyy said. No one is putting it on the table. What is an achievable goal in ukraine. If victory is defined it is by many, mika, that ukraine has to totally rid its country of every russian troop. I understand the argument, but the problem is its not achievable. No one is putting out there what is a realistic plan for victory. If were going to spend all of this money, what is our return on investment. Thats a conversation that this administration has been reluctant to have for 2 1 2 years. And the danger of not having that conversation, not giving americans an achievable policy, strategy in ukraine, it allows someone like Donald Trump to come into the conversation to say, this cant work, ill just end it and so forth. I think the administration and i think the ukrainian government has to begin to fill the space and explain what is achievable in that country. First of all i was struck by the two clips, first about the migrants and ukraine. How every word was a lie. Every word was a lie. Theres not even a pretense of truth there the way he depicted all of these themes. Picking up on ukraine, mike, zelenskyy, President Of Ukraine will be speaking at the u. N. Today. Hes meeting with President Biden and Vice President Harris In Washington tomorrow. Hes expected to present a Victory Plan. Details of which are unclear. We know there are is pressure to allow ukraine to use u. S. Weapons deep inside of russia to this point this administration has been cautious about. But as richard said for now, he wants to regain his borders. And a noble goal but what seems unrealistic. Theres no talk here. What we heard yesterday Donald Trump such a contrast of the future thats going to affect the entire globe. Well, heres the situation, i would think, No One in the united states, and No One in ukraine, really, at least to my knowledge has defined the word victory. What does victory mean in ukraine . We dont know. What we do know, i dont think we can get a grip of number of casualties that russia has suffered, both internally and in the population itself. Ukraine, on the other hand, has fought nobly. Theyre the underdog still. But theyve got to define in washington, and in the institution of the united nations down the street, theyve got to define what victory means, i would think. 100 . And again, the refusal to do it. I understand the principle. You know, No One ought to be able to acquire an intraterritory by force. Russia has this massive Military Help by North Korea around and china. Again, we need to have goals in Foreign Policy, desirable in principle. And also got to be doable, theyve got to be achievable. Otherwise, youll have the Donald Trump world saying youre throwing good money after bad. Youre wasting money. The friends of ukraine have to reframe this debate in a way that promises an achievable goal in a reasonable amount of time. And maybe President Zelenskyy will begin to make that Speech Today during his speech at the u. N. , we know when he visits the White House and President Biden tomorrow he will be presenting what hes calling a Victory Plan, to your point, richard. As zelenskyy speaks today, yesterday, President Biden spoke at the u. N. In what will be his final address as president to the united nations General Assembly. It was a wide ranging speech. With alliances and Russias Invasion of ukraine and, of course, the escalating conflict in the Middle East. Were all forced to pull the countries apart. The world apart. Aggression, cynicism, and desire to go it alone. Our test is to make sure that the nations holding us together are stronger than those that are pulling us apart. The principles of partnerships, that we came here each year to uphold, it withstand the challenges. That the center holds once again, my fellow leaders. I truly believe were at another Inflexion Point in world history. The choices we make today will determine our future for decades to come. When we stand behind the principles that unite us, we stand firm against aggression. We end the conflicts today, we take on challenges like climate change, hunger and disease. We plan now for opportunities of risk and revolutionary new technologies. Putins war has failed. And his core aim. He set out to destroy ukraine. But ukraine is still free. He set out to weaken nato. But nato is bigger, stronger, more united than ever before, with two new members, finland and sweden. But we cannot let up. The world now has another choice to make. Will we sustain our support to help ukraine win this war and preserve its freedom. Or walk away and let aggression be renewed and a nation be destroyed. I know my answer. We cannot grow weary. We cannot look away. And we will not let up on our support for ukraine. Not until ukraine wins in just and durable peace in the u. N. Charter. As we look ahead, we must also address the rise of violence against innocent palestinians on the west bank, and set the conditions for a better future, including a Twostate Solution. Where the world, where israel enjoys Security And Peace and full recognition and normalize relations. Palestinian Security And Selfdetermination in a state of their own. So, Peter Baker, touching on all of the hot points, the flash points around the world right now. But also a moment that probably the speech will be remembered for, President Biden talking about his decision to step aside and not run for a Second Term. Said it was a very difficult decision, after 50 years in public service, he said, i love this job, but i love my country more. And in a message that could have been either directed at the people in the room or perhaps to the republican candidate for president right now. He said some things are more important than staying in power. Its your people that matter the most. Yeah. I think youre right. Some of the people in that room, of course, have had power for an awful long time and dont plan to give it up anytime soon. So, in effect, hes offering himself as a model for how it ought to be done. But youre right, willie, to say Thats Something that he may be targeting at a domestic audience. That is to say, his predecessor, after losing in 2020, made up claims that werent true about the election and had a Mob Attack the capitol. Its rather striking that an american president would be having to make that point about an american, you know, democratic election. Thats something that we havent seen, obviously in our lifetime. So it was very striking. I was also struck by how personal it was for him. Remember, he has spent 50 years on the stage. And he cares a lot about Foreign Affairs. These are people hes spent him time working not only as Vice President , president , foreign relations committee. For him, foreign relations is really the Peak Part of what president means. It was a Whistle Moment for him and maybe a Whistle Moment for people in the room for what may come next. Exactly. A lot of dynamics there. Also he was talking about the forces pulling us together are stronger than the forces pulling us apart. Hes saying that hopefully. Hes saying that in a speech that you could put right back here to this country. You wonder if hes talking about Foreign Affairs or domestic affairs, Vladimir Putin or Donald Trump, literally, if you listen to the speech. Willie, you mentioned a portion of the speech that struck you. Lets listen to it. My fellow leaders, let us never forget, some things are more important than staying in power. Its your people. [ applause ] its your people. That matter the most. Never forget, we are here to serve the people. Not the other way around. The future will be won by those who unleash the full potential of their people to breathe briefly, to think freely, to innovate, to educate. To live and love openly without fear. Thats the soul of democracy. It doesnt belong to any one country. Jonathan lemire, another one of those moment where is you to apply around the World Or Right here. And it seems he was speaking to Donald Trump potentially. Theres a lot of audiences. Im told that line there putting people ahead of your own pretty power also aimed at prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in israel who has made decisions to prolong the war that feel is putting that out. Richard, lets talk about the speech. He made a compelling argument that the world he inherited posttrump, full of turmoil. He rebuilt alliances. He announced again americas presence on the world stage. That i think, is a universal agreement. However, the harder case hes making for the world its a safer place than it was four years ago because of the Ukraine And Situation in the Middle East. And he certainly urged Israel And Hezbollah to deescalate. Right now, what were seeing, these two sides are heading closer and close to what could be an allout war. That was the Yin And Yang of the speech, jonathan. We heard the last generational speech of a Cold War president. Were never going to hear that again. When he approaches the world its through americas allies. The Center Piece of this