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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight September 21, 2024

Dropped out of the president ial race the earliest signs we saw of enthusiasm for Kamala Harris, the first indications she might change the fundamental dynamics of this race were these headlines. Tens of thousands of black women mobilize to Support Kamala Harris. We were built for this moment, black Women Rally around harris. When we vote, we make history. Black female Leaders Rally around Kamala Harris. The very same day that President Biden announced he was withdrawing from the race, a group called Win With Black Women held an Organizing Call that was quickly flooded with Support. 40,000 people logged on putting the online meeting at capacity while another 50,000 streamed the event from other platforms. Now, tonight that same group, Win With Black Women, is holding another major event for Kamala Harris this time with the help of one of her most powerful surrogates. Lets all choose Kamala Harris tonight, just before we got on the air, Tens Of Thousands of Kamala Harris Supporters logged on including some very high profile Supporters. Theres brian cranston. Hey, brian. Hello, hello. Chris rock is In The House. Ben stiller, jennifer lopez, tracy ellis ross. Julia roberts, where are you . And ms. Meril streep is In The House. Vice president Kamala Harris took questions from the Audience And Oprah winfrey herself. It seems to us something happened to you the moment Joe Biden, President Biden stepped aside and withdrew his candidacy, that a Veil Or Something dropped and you just stepped into your power. You know, we each have those moments in our lives where its time to step up, so i felt a great responsibility, and the incredible power of the people, right, who and im not the only leader in this. Were all leaders in this. This is so much bigger than me. The reason that events like this are so important is because black voters and in particular black women vote rrz the key to a potential future Kamala Harris victory. And here is how Win With Black Women put it when talking about how all this came together. What we knew was that it was a moment in our country to show what black women have always done. I just think that it is an honor for all of us to be able to usher in this moment knowing that those who watered this mighty field are now allowing us to eat of the fruit. For decades black women have been the backbone of the democratic coalition. Their Support helped propel Joe Biden to the democratic nomination in 2020 and then helped put him over the Finish Line in key Swing States like georgia during the general election. But for most of this year, there have been warning signs the democratic Support black voters was slipping. That all began to change when democrats switched their ticket. In the past two months Kamala Harris has seen an outpouring of Support And Enthusiasm and organizing from the black community. One notable example has been Support from americas historically black fraternities and sororitiess known as the divine nine. Kamala harris herself is an Alum Nuof a divine nine sorority. And this year americas oldest black sorority created its first ever political Action Committee to get involved in this Years Election while others have begun diverting resources in get out the vote efforts including launching new ads in Swing States like pennsylvania, ones that are targeting black voters. A child born today, they have fewer rights than her mother and her grandmother. Right now those hard earned rights are being threatened. The right to vote. The right to choose. Even the right to learn our history. Now its up to us to stand up. Organize and use our power, our right to vote. It only takes one person to change the world. Imagine what we can do together. You can see this enthusiasm in the polling. A new Howard University Poll of black voters in Swing States finds Kamala Harris winning 82 of black voters in arizona, georgia, michigan, nevada, North Carolina, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. Donald trump, on the other hand, gets only 12 of black votes. Harris numbers are close to Bidens Share of the black vote in those same Battleground States in the 2020 election suggesting harris has gained back most of the ground lost among black voters since then. Most but not all. While this new polling shows Vice President harris getting Support from nearly every subgroup of black voters, theres one group proving harder to win over, young black men. When you look specifically at black men under 50 without college degrees, then Support for trump rises to more than 1 in 4 black men. So that may be why Kamala Harris told the National Association Of Black Journalists this week that she isnt taking black men and their votes for granted. I think its very important to not operate from the assumption that black men are in anybodys pocket. Black men are like any other voting group. You got to earn their vote. So im working to earn the vote, not assuming im going to have it because i am black but because the policies and the perspectives i have understands what we must do to recognize the needs of all communities. And i intend to be a president for all people. Joining me now is melissa murray, the cohost of an upcoming special here on msnbc called black women in america. Also cohost of an earlier nbc special called black men in america, the road to 2024. Melissa and charles, its great to have two people on the road talking to black voters about the exact topics were going to go into tonight. First let me start with your reaction to this Oprah Event i believe is just wrapping up. I understand the inclination to do an event with oprah. If oprah called me it wouldnt matter what its about, id go do it with her. And certainly theres a lot of stars lined up in this event. I do wonder in ginning up enthusiasm where she most needs it, do you think oprah makes a difference. Im going to say i think its a real missed opportunity if oprah doesnt tell every woman in that crowd to look under their seat because you get a democracy, you get a democracy. Missed opportunity. I dont know if shes going to play with young black men who are skeptical but there is Support within the black community and that could be important in translating to young black men like their mothers and grandmothers, everyone in the community behind this. Maybe theres a reason for this and maybe i should investigate or interrogate why im not quite in line yet. Can you expand on that, charles . Is that the family dynamic, the matriarch coming together and saying you will vote. Theres a number of black men i spoke to in the course of filming black men in america, the road to 2024, who expressed part of the issue they are having is the way people are talking to them about their vote as opposed to having conversations with them. A lot of black men have expressed feeling folks are talking at them and castigating them for having questions, for having apprehension, reservations, wanting to see some policy before they make a decision and commit. And so at the end of the day youre still talking about men. Theres a feeling in respects of hold on, who are you talking to like that . You Cant Sort of shame me to the polls. Thats not an effective strategy. And you can see that in her response of the conference when she said, look, i dont take them for granted, i know i need to earn it. Give me a reason why. And i think part of the problem with democratic messaging for some people has been you have been selling a vision of less last, meaning that ive survived Donald Trump one, and now youre telling me this is going to be worse. But at the same time you told me the same thing about george bush, told me the same thing about ronald reagan. Im not saying its valid. But if for example im a Black Man whos only seen the Unemployment Rate in this country be surpassed by nativeamerican men and no other demographic selling the vision of best last is not the best way to go. One of the things we saw talking to black women, its not just black men who have questions. Women of my age and older, they are saladly in that camp and they were even before the switch. We talked to women who said i will vote for Joe Bidens desiccated body if the comes to that. These younger women, they have question. And one of the things interesting to me they talked about questions of Police Brutality. The biden administration done a lot around, one of the most historic Executive Orders putting money into Policing And Police accountability. We dont really talk about that on the media because we spent it last year covering January 6th and trumps trials. Police brutality, the appalling footage of Police Brutality continues to be generated independent of the biden administration. Heres another part of it, and this came out very clearly and i think its the same with black men. It occurred to me this is the generation of people who grew up in schools after no child left behind. So they grew up in an educational system were divested of Music And Pe and civics education. So they may not understand as clearly as people in the media and the law and what not, but the president has limited power over the 18 departments. Thats a Municipality And Locality issue. Part of this they want to see change, but theyre looking to the president , and maybe thats not the person whos going to do this. We really have to think about in the way in which our electorate is being educated, what it means downstream because this isnt just about black men. I think were going to see this further down the line with different groups. Where you account for the educational divide thats where youre seeing the biggest cleave towards trump. The positive case for voting for harris, then theres also the case for voting for harris as an antidote to trump. Ive got to wonder what you think of the rhetoric coming out directed at springfield, ohio. I think we have the clip if we can play it for you guys so we can hear how shes framing it. Ever since the debate we feel for our fellow citizens in springfield. Do you not think about the citizens in springfield, ohio. The haitian families, nonhaitian families, everybody having to deal with this lie that has endangered the lives of haitian people and everybody who looks haitian. Everybody in america feels for that. Okay, the key part of that i think is everybody having to deal with this lie that has endangered the lives of haitian people and anybody who looks haitian. We had the chair of the local Naacp Chapter on yesterday, charles. And she was saying how her Grandchildren Cant go to school. Shes worried about them. Theyre not haitian. Theyre black. And ive got to wonder one of the areas where Kamala Harris has the most ground on Donald Trump is immigration and the economy. Talk about immigration for second, when you hear the rhetoric around immigration, how hes vilifying people of color in the united states, they could be haitian, they could just be black, is that not a deterrent . Do you think that matters in your experience and granted this is before any of this Springfield Stuff came up, but is that the kind of stuff going to penetrate, you know, young black men and their sort of like their Information Bubble . I think the notion of Donald Trump as someone who is a racist is not something thats new or far to young black male voters. I think with respect to what were seeing in springfield and what we saw with those comments, it needs to be formed more broadly and under the umbrella of White Nationalism. And the reason for that is racism is one lane. But when youre talking about White Nationalism, now you invite xenophobia and a number of different isms into the picture with other people. Its not just a conversation black people or haitian people or people who are dark skinned dominicans or dark skinned cubans need to be worried about. It is a conversation if you are not a wealthy, straight, white male you can be othered under this notion of White Nationalism because it is a virus that spreads. And it is a virus that Donald Trump has no problem unleashing along with j. D. Vance on the entire electorate. And so because of that, you have to expand the framing so that people understand this is not just a racial issue that extends to people who might appear to be haitian in some way. This is something that potentially has the ability to affect all of us who can be othered. The white Nationalism Frame i think also encompasses some of the issues that harris is actually good on, like abortion. One of the things that really hasnt been talked about enough is the way in which this antiabortion rhetoric is also accompanied by replacement theory. Like theres a reason why you want to stop women from terminating their pregnancy, certain women. And theres a reason why youre fine with certain women like amber therman, bleeding out in parking lots. And so the worst effects of these Abortion Bans are going to be visited on poor women, women of color. Were seeing that. And its now that its also spreading to women who look like random suburban moms, and now its becoming a real issue. But its always been an issue for women of color, and shes made that really clear. I think joining it to this broader message about White Nationalism makes the issue really salient and theres a real choice here. Also aided by the fact there are neonazis Marching Inspringfield are and theyre explicitly talking about the great replacement theory. So the Data Points are there, its just people may be connecting them to the candidates. Melissa murray, charles coleman, thank you for joining me tonight. Really appreciate it. Coming up Trump Lackey and sitting united States Senator Lindsey graham makes a secret trip to the State Of Nebraska to try and convince republicans to change the way The State Awards its electoral votes. I wonder who sent him . But first the republican candidate for governor of North Carolina refers to himself as black nazi on a Porn Website called Nude Africa, and he has no intention of leaving the race. Thats next. Intention of Leavi Race thats next. Draws away heat, relieves pressure and instantly adapts. Sleep better. Live purple. Visit purple. Com or a store near you today the moment i met him i knew he was my soulmate. Soulmates. Soulmate [giggles] why do you need me . [laughs sarcastically] but then we switched to tmobile 5g home internet. And now his attention is spent elsewhere. But im thinking of her the whole time. Thats so much worse. Why is that thing in bed with you . This is where it gets the best signal from the Cell Tower ive tried everywhere else In The House theres always a new excuse. Well if we got xfinity you wouldnt have to mess around with the connection. Therapys tough, huh . Mmm. Its like a lot about me. [laughs] a Home Router should never be a home wrecker. Oo this is a good book title. And i quote, i am a black nazi, slavery is not bad, some people need to be slaves, i wish they would bring it slavery back. I would certainly buy a few. That is alleged commentary from Mark Robinson, the current republican candidate for governor in the key Swing State of North Carolina and an ally of the republican nominee for president , Donald Trump. According to reporting from Cnn Today robinson under the User Name Mini soldier wrote these and plenty of other comments on a Porn Website called Need Africa between the years 2008 and 2012. While endorsing slavery and cosigning On Nazisms would mark a new low for even Mark Robinson, hes no stranger to shocking hateful commentary on topics ranging from abortion to the holocaust to the lgbtq plus community. Robinson today vehemently denied that he posted these comments and insists he will not exit the governors race. This is not us. These are not our words, and this is not anything that is characteristic of me, nor has it ever been. How do you explain all the matching details on this profile, the profile on Nude Africa lists your full name as Mark Robinson. The email listed on the account is an email that you have used elsewhere on the internet including with your photo. Im not going to get into the minutia how someone might manufacture these salacious tabloid lies, but i can tell you this. Theres been over 1 Million spent on me through a. I. By a Billionaires Son whos bound and determined to destroy me. Joining me now is sam stein, Managing Editor at the Bulwark And Msnbc contributor. Sam, it was all a. I. That did it. I just want to remind everybody at home these are posts from 2008 to 2012, which was really the prea. I. Era. And Mini Soldier is also Mark Robinsons official handle on i believe pinterest, youtube, and twitter. What do you make of his excuse thus far . Its remarkable how advance a. I. Has become it can serve 15yearold internet postings. First of all, this whole thing is ridiculous. Im glad i can come on and talk about Nude Africa. Obviously im not the expert on the subject matter. This is ridiculous. In a way its kind of consulting to the constituents of North Carolina, specifically the republican ones, that Mark Robinson believes that he can survive this. No one really thi

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