Transcripts For MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 2

Transcripts For MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240921

That is our show for this evening. Now, it is time for the last word with Jonathan Capehart was in for lawrence. I couldnt hear what you guys are talking about. You are talking about what were you talking about . Lindsey graham took a trip to nebraska to try to convince the state to be a winner take all state so when its electoral votes are apportioned, Donald Trump gets all of them instead of likely Kamala Harris getting one of them and that one vote, gosh i hope its not true, but could be the Difference Maker in the 2024 election. Maybe this is all just trivia that we will enjoy looking back upon or maybe this is something we will wish would pay greater attention to. Well, thankfully, you paid attention to it in your show. We are going to talk a little bit about it in this show, so with that, alex wegener, go enjoy your thursday night. Have a great show. Is 47 days until Election Day and tonight, Donald Trump attended an event to try to appeal to jewish donors even as he refuses refuses to disavow Neo Nazi s. Kamala harris finished it show with a very special guest, oprah winfrey. It seems to us something happened to you the Moment President Joe Biden stepped aside and withdrew his candidacy , that a Veil Or Something dropped and you just stepped into your power. You know, we each have those moments in our lives where it is time to step up. Knowing what is at stake in terms of fundamental freedoms, what is at stake in terms of fighting against hate and those efforts to divide us, and i do know that i am in a position to do something about it so i felt a great responsibility and the incredible power of the people. I am not the only leader in this. We are all leaders in this. This is so much bigger than me. It is about who we are as americans and it is about making clear what we stand for and what we stand for is it about the ideals upon which we were founded including the importance of freedom and the importance of independence and the importance of dignity and purpose, but it is also about what we stand for in terms of our values. The lifestream Town Hall Event called unite for america focused on building coalitions, increasing turnout and energizing voters from across the political spectrum that have coalesced to support Kamala Harris candidacy. Political reports nearly 70 unity groups were invited to participate, including win with black women, that started all this, win with black men, white dudes for harris, black women for, and cat ladies for,. Kamala harris use the event to speak directly to voters. One of the most powerful moments came when oprah highlighted the story of a pregnant mother in georgia whose preventable death is now being blamed on that States Abortion been implemented after the Supreme Court overturned roe versus wade. Amber thurman died in the hospital after waiting 20 hours for Routine Treatment the doctors feared to give her because they could face jail time under Georges Abortion band. Her mother and sisters were in the audience tonight. Initially, i did not want the public to know my pain. I wanted to go through in silence, but i realized that it was selfish. I want you all to know, amber was not a statistic. She was loved. By a family, a strong family, and we would have done whatever , to get my baby, our baby the help that she needed. When propublica came to my home, i pushed them away. No, no. No, but she kept she was persistent. She said it was something that you needed to know. You have to hear me. Women around the world, people around the world need to know that this was preventable. Two years later, after speaking with my daughters, because i lost strength, i lost hope you are looking at a mother it was broken. The worst pain ever that a mother, that a parent could ever feel. Her father and myself in the family, youre looking at it. Well, we appreciate so deeply your being here, and we are all watching you, hearing that tape in those words, we know how retraumatizing that is in the strength it takes for you to be here to tell your story and we deeply appreciated them to have to ask you, as sisters, how are you coping and what does knowing that this couldve been prevented how does that sit with you . How do you cope with that on a daily basis . I mean, its heartbreaking, you know. That was my baby sister. I love my baby sister, you know. I am beyond hurt. Disappointed. I feel guilty. I wish i could have helped her. She was suffering and we had no idea. We trusted them to take care of her, you know, and they just let her die because of some stupid Abortion Band. They treated her like she was just another number. They did not care for her as if she was their daughter or their granddaughter, you know, when she is not here. She will never come back. I want to say that it is very disheartening that my sister was allowed to suffer for 20 hours. She suffered. There was nothing that we could do to help her. We trusted the Healthcare Professionals to do their job and save her, but they failed her. I think the most powerful thing you have said here is that your daughter is not a statistic. She had a life. She was loved by her sisters, loved by her family, loved by those who knew her, and she is not just a statistic and we are happy to speak her Name Tonight in this room, talking about what this country needs in terms of reproductive rights and freedom. What do you want to say, madame Vice President . Im just so sorry. And, the courage that you all have shown is extraordinary because also, you just learned about how it is that she died, and they just recently learned, yes. How, yes, and Ambers Mom shared with me that the word over and over again in her mind is preventable. Preventable. That word keeps coming to her. This story is a story that is sadly not the only story. Of what has been happening since these bands have taken place, and you know, just to step back in terms of how we got here, the former president chose three members of the united states Supreme Court with the intention that they would overturn the protections of roe v. Wade and they did as he intended in state after state, including ours these Abortion Bans have been passed that criminalize Healthcare Providers and in a couple of states, prison for life. Prison for life in a couple of states for a Doctor Or Nurse who provides healthcare, and so it seems very apparent even when the Mothers Life is in danger. See, heres the problem with that. Here is the problem with that. Is she on Deaths Door be selected before you actually decide to give her help . Is that what we are saying . Like literally, a doctor or a nurse has to say, she might die any minute. Better give her now care, because otherwise i might go to prison for life in some cases. Think about what we are during doing in terms of saying that certain people who are in the statehouses and starting with the former president of the united states that they are in a better position than a doctor or a nurse to determine when their patient needs medical care. This literally Ambers Story highlights the fact that among everything that is wrong with these bands and what is happened in terms of the overturning of roe v. Wade, it is a Healthcare Crisis. It is a Healthcare Crisis that affects the patient and the professional. That will be the focus of a speech on reproductive rights that Kamala Harris will be giving tomorrow when she returns to atlanta, georgia, a speech that will not just focus on the story of amber thurman, but also that of candi miller, who died at home refusing to seek medical care out of fear of Georges Abortion ban after she suffered complications from taking abortion pills to end a risky pregnancy. Her death was also deemed preventable were it not for Georges Abortion band. The New York Times reports that in her speech tomorrow, Kamala Harris quote, will call for restoring federal Abortion Rights and cite the womens dresses illustrating the devastating impacts of what she calls Trump Abortion bans, according to a person with knowledge of her remarks. They say ms. Harris believes appearing at the site of these bands, rushing into the fire of weighty issues, as they describe it, is an important way to leverage the power of her bully pulpit. But, georgia will not be the only state Kamala Harris will visit tomorrow. Kamala harris will continue her campaigns swing through the to all states including Pennsylvania And Michigan by holding a rally in wisconsin tomorrow. New State Polling shows a tight race in the blue wall states, particularly in wisconsin where Kamala Harris is leading Donald Trump 48 to 47 . In michigan, she laid some 50 to 45 and in pennsylvania, her lead over trump is 51 to 45 . Leading off our Discussion Tonight is senator tammy baldwin, democrat of wisconsin, who is running for her third term in the united States Senate and will be joining Vice President harris when she visits wisconsin tomorrow. Senator, thank you for coming to the last word. Let me start by getting a reaction to what you heard in that Town Hall Tonight with the Vice President. Thank you for sharing such powerful focus on the impact of the reversal of roe v. Wade. Wisconsin has a very similar set of circumstances. When dobbs was decided, our state fell under an abortion ban, a criminal Abortion Band that was passed in our state in the year 1849, and for 15 months, there were no services whatsoever. I heard harrowing stories about women bleeding out. I met a woman whose water broke at 17 weeks when she was sent home and was only granted service when she was spiking a high fever and facing the risk of sepsis. This strikes home with every wisconsin viewer, and it resonates here and it is a reason for us to remember that we have to participate in this election. Our democracy is on the line. The Rights And Freedoms relating to roe v. Wade are on the line as well as so many other things. Senator, you will be with the Vice President tomorrow in wisconsin. What do you think is the most important for her to focus on . We welcome her back to wisconsin and i think it just shows that we really are the Battleground State. If you think about wisconsin, trump narrowly won in 2016. Biden narrowly won in 2020. Currently, as are statistics show, Trump And Harris are virtually tied in our state. In my race, three polls this week showed my race within the margin of error. Real clear politics just switched it from a a lean democrat to pure tossup, and in my race, unlike my opponent, eric have to, who is a multimillionaire and can self fund, i cannot so please help me fight back by going to tammy baldwin. Com and donate whatever you can to help because all of these things are truly on the line. You hinted at how tight this races. New polling shows you ahead of your republican opponent at 51 in the polls. What message do you have for voters with 47 days left in the campaign besides what you just said in your last answer . Again, i have a multimillionaire who owns a three billiondollar California Bank and a 7 Million california home. He is bankrolling his race. But also, On The Issues, we could not be more different. We just talked about the critical issue of restoring Abortion Rights, and i lead the effort in the Womens Health Protection act to restore those rights by codifying them into federal law in taking the additional step of telling states like wisconsin and georgia, texas and florida that they Cant Pass laws at the State Level that interfere with the Rights And Freedoms articulated in row. My opponent said he was 100 opposed to Abortion Rights. He cheered on the dobbs decision, which means he owns the chaos that has us across the country but it doesnt stop there. The differences go on. I helped write the affordable Care Act when i served in the house of representatives. My opponent would overturn it in on issues like how we would approach protecting programs like Social Security and medicare, i was raised by my grandparents. I saw the importance and value of those programs up close at a younger age than most. My opponent supports a 4 Trillion Tax Plan that disproportionately helps with wealthy people like himself, big corporations and jeopardizes the solvency and the longevity of Social Security and medicare, so we cannot have a bigger contrast On The Issues in this race. Senator tammy baldwin, thank you very much for coming to the last word. Joining us, the democratic Congresswoman Dykema williams of the great State Of Georgia. She is also the chair of the georgia democratic party. Welcome to the last word. I would love to start with your reaction to what we saw tonight in michigan, particularly when talking about the case of amber thurman. I watched the watch that. My Heart Breaks. My Heart Breaks because i am a mother. I am a georgian. I represent the State Of Georgia. I was in the State Senate when this bill was passed, and we warned republicans. We want our governor of the impact of these Abortion Bans before Donald Trump even overturned roe v. Wade so i am mad because this was preventable. It was preventable because our governor knew the consequences. We had experts and doctors who told him what would happen and he signed this bill into law anyway and Donald Trump when he brags about overturning roe v. Wade, this is what hes bragging about so i blame them for these preventable deaths of mothers in my state that we couldve avoided and we dont know how many more stories like this will come about because we are just catching up to the cases from two years ago for georgia already leads the nation in maternal mortality, especially when it comes to black women and so this is devastating and as a leader in this country, have an obligation to speak up about it and to hold those accountable who made this possible in the first place. There is new polling showing that Vice President harris and Donald Trump are in a statistical tie in georgia. How are you feeling about the state of the race in georgia . Even with me being about this happening, i know i have to be a joyful warrior like a candidate for president. We understand that we have options on the ballot. There is a clear contrast in Kamala Harris will be a president for all the people and we know this issue around Abortion Access transcends partisanship. It transcends racial lines and that is exactly what her presidency would be, a president for all the people and so i am excited about her returning to georgia for the 20th time or 20 times since shes been Vice President and I Cant wait to get back home and get on the Campaign Trail because in Battleground Georgia where we only won by 11,780 votes, we know that every vote counts. Talk about crossing racial lines, watching that townhall, you saw men, women, black, white all reacting to the stores of the two Women In Georgia who lost their lives preventively. Is there anything more voters in georgia need to hear from Vice President harris . I think when she shows up tomorrow, that goes a

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