Much humanity, in a piece of sound you just played, you see the anguish on her face and you hear it in her voice. Yeah, again, like i said, she is very good in unscripted settings. I think it is pretty clear at this point, and so, i think it is great to see her in those settings. Thank you, my friend. So, when joe biden first dropped out of the presidential race, the earliest signs we saw of enthusiasm for kamala harris, the first indications that she might change the fundamental dynamics of this race were these headlines. Tens of thousands of black women mobilize to support kamala harris. We were built for this moment, black women rally around harris. When we vote, we make history. Black female leaders rally around kamala harris. Very same day that president biden announced he was withdrawing from the race, a group called women with black women held an organizing call that was quickly flooded with support. 40,000 people logged on, putting the online meeting at capacity. While another 50,000 streamed the event from other platforms. Now tonight, that same group, win with black women, is holding another major event for kamala harris, this time with the help of one of her most powerful surrogates. Let's all choose kamala harris! tonight, just before we got on the air, tens of thousands of kamala harris supporters logged onto an online rally with oprah winfrey and kamala harris, including some very high profile supporters. There is brian cranston. Hey, brian. Hey, hello, hello. Chris wagner is in the house. [ cheers and applause ] a ben stiller, jennifer lopez, tracy ellis ross. Julia roberts, where are you? [ cheers and applause ] and miss meryl streep is in the house. [ cheers and applause ] vice president harris took questions from audience members and from oprah winfrey herself. It seems to us that something happened to you the moment joe biden, president biden, stepped aside and withdrew his candidacy, that a veil or something dropped and you just stepped into your power. [ cheers and applause ] you know, we each have those moments in our lives where it is time to step up. So, i felt a great responsibility, and the incredible power of the people, right? i am not the only leader in this, we are all leaders in this, this is so much bigger than me. The reason that events like this are so important is because black voters and in particular, black women voters, are the key to a potential future kamala harris of victory. Here is how it went with a black women's ed put it when she was talking about how all of this came together. What we knew is that it was a moment in our country to show what black women have always done. I just think that it is an honor for all of us to be able to usher in this moment, knowing that those who worked this mighty field are now allowing us to eat the fruit. For decades, black women have been the backbone of the democratic coalition. Their support helped propel joe biden to the democratic nomination in 2020, then helped put him over the finish line in key swing states like georgia during the general election. But for most of this year, there have been warning signs that democrats support from black voters was slipping. That all began to change when democrats switched their ticket. Created its first political action committee to get involved in this year's election, while others have begun organizing get out the vote efforts, including new ads in swing states like pennsylvania, ones that are targeting black voters. A child born today may have fewer rights than her mother and her grandmother. Right now, those hardearned rights are being threatened. The right to vote. The right to choose. Even the right to learn our history. Now it's up to us to stand up. Organize and use our power, our right to vote. It only takes one person to change the world. Imagine what we can do together. You can see this enthusiasm in the polling. A new howard university poll of black voters in swing states finds kamala harris winning 82% of black voters. In arizona, georgia, michigan, nevada, north carolina, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. Donald trump, on the other hand, gets only 12% of black votes. Harris's numbers are close to biden's share of the black vote in the same battleground states in the 2020 election, suggesting that harris has gained back most of the ground lost by black voters since then, most but not all. While this new polling shows vice president harris getting overwhelming support from nearly every subgroup of black voters, there is one group proving harder to win over. Young black men. According to this new poll, more than one in five black men over the age of 50 support donald trump for president. And when you look specifically at black men under 50 without college degrees, then support for trump rises to more than one in four black men. So, that may be why kamala harris told the national association of black journalists this week that she isn't taking black men and their votes for granted. I think it is very important to not operate from the assumption that black men are in anybody's pocket. Black men are like any other voting group. You've got to earn their vote. So, i am working to own the vote. Not assuming i am going to have it because i am black. But because the policies and the perspective that i have understands what we must do to recognize the needs of all communities, and i intend to be a president for all people. Joining me now is melissa murray, the cohost of an upcoming special here on msnbc call black women in america: the road to 2024, airing september 29th. Also with me is charles coleman, writer for slate and cohost of an earlier msnbc special call black men in america: the road to 2024. It's great to have two people who have been on the road talking to voters about the exact topics we need to go into tonight. First, let me start with your reaction to this oprah event that i believe is still going or just wrapping up, melissa. I understand the inclination to do an event with oprah. If oprah called me, it wouldn't matter what it was about, i would go do it with her. Certainly there were a lot of stars lined up in this event. I do wonder, though, in terms of drumming up enthusiasm where she most needs it, do you think oprah makes a difference? x i'm just going to say, i think it is a real missed opportunity if oprah doesn't tell every woman in the crowd to look under her seat, because you get a democracy, you get a democracy, missed opportunity. I don't know if oprah is going to play well with the demographic of young black men who are perhaps skeptical or maybe trump curious, but i do think it is clear that there is support within the black community, and that could be very important in translating to young black men like their mothers, their grandmothers, everyone in the community is behind this, maybe there is a reason for that and maybe i should investigate or interrogate why i am not quite in line yet. Can you expand on that, charles? is that the sort of family dynamics, the matriarchy coming together and saying, you will vote for kamala harris, young black men in my family? it does exist, and in quite simple terms, that may be part of the problem. Because of the conversation and the way it is being had. There are a number of black men who i spoke to in the course of filming black men in america: the road to 2024, who expressed part of the issue they are having is the way the people are talking to them about their vote. As opposed to having conversations with them, a lot of black men have expressed feeling like folks are talking at them and castigating them for having questions, having reservations, wanting to see some policy before they make a decision and commit. So, at the end of the day, you are still talking about men. So, there is a feeling in some respects of hold on, who are you talking to like that? you can't shame me to the polls, that is not an effective strategy. And you can see that in her response at the conference when she said i don't take them for granted, i know i need to earn it. That seems like she is reading from what you are reading from, which is don't tell people they have to vote for me, don't shame them into it, i got to earn it. Give me a reason why. I think the problem with democratic messaging for some people has been you have been selling me a vision of a less last. A meeting that i have survived donald trump once and now you're telling me this is going to be worst, but at the same time, you tell me the same thing about george bush and ronald reagan and i'm still here. I'm not saying it is valid, but i'm saying that if for example i am a black male who has only seen the implement rate in this country be surpassed by native american men and no other demographic, selling me a vision of less last is not necessarily the best way to go. But again, i think one of the things that we saw when we went around the country talking to black women, it is not just black men have questions, black women also have questions. Women of my age and older are solidly in that camp, and they were even before the switch. We have talked to women who said i would vote for joe biden's desiccated bodies it comes to that. But these younger women have questions. One of the things that was really interesting to me as i thought about questions of police brutality. What has the biden administration done around police brutality? in fact, the biden administration has done a lot. One of the most historic executive orders, putting money into policing and police accountability. We don't really talk about that on the media because we have spent the last year covering january 6th and trump's trials and whatnot. And police brutality, the appalling footage of police brutality continues to be generated, independent of the biden administration. Here is another part of it, i think it is the same with black men, it occurred to me that this is the generation of people who grew up in schools after no child left behind, so they grew up in an educational system where we are interested in music and pe and civic education, so they may not understand as clearly as other people in the media and law and whatnot that the president has very limited power over the 18,000 police departments in the country, that is a municipality and a locality issue. Part of this, they want to see change, but they're looking to the president, and maybe that is not the person who is going to do this. So, we really have to think about the way in which our electorate is being educated, what it means downstream, because this isn't just about black men. I think we are going to see this further down the line with lots of grits. And when you account for the educational divide, that is where you're seeing it. I've got to say, though, the positive case for voting for harris, then there is also the case for voting for harris as an antidote for trumpet and i have got to wonder what you guys think of the rhetoric directed at springfield, ohio. It is something oprah winfrey brought up this evening a few minutes ago, i think we have the clip if we could play it for you guys, you can hear how she is framing it. Ever since the debate, we feel for our fellow citizens in springfield. Do not think about the fellow citizens in springfield, ohio? the haitian families, the non haitian families, everybody having to deal with this lie that has endangered the lives of haitian people and anybody who looks haitian. Everybody in america feels for that. Okay, the key part of that, i think, is everybody having to deal with this lie that has endangered the lives of haitian people and anybody who looks haitian. We have the chair of the local naacp chapter on yesterday, charles, and she was saying how her grandchildren can't go to school, she is worried about them, they are not haitian, they're black. And i've got to wonder, one of the areas where [ inaudible ] integration and the economy. Talk about immigration for a second when you hear his rhetoric around immigration, when you hear how he is vilifying people of color in the united states, they could be haitian, they could just be black, is that not a deterrent? do you think that that matters? in your experience, granted, this is before any of the springfield stuff came up, but is that the kind of stuff that is going to penetrate young black men and their sort of information bubble? i think the notion of donald trump as someone who is a racist is not something that is new or foreign to young black male voters but i think with respect to what we are seeing in springfield, it needs to be framed more broadly and it needs to be framed under the appellate of white nationalism. And the reason for that is because racism is one lane, but when you're talking about white nationalism, now you invite xenophobia, you invite other things into the picture to other other people. And the reason why that becomes critical is because it is not just a conversation that black people or haitian people or people who are dark skinned dominicans are dark skinned humans need to be worried about, it is a conversation that if you're not a wealthy, straight am a white male, you can be altered under this notion of white nationalism, because it is a virus that spreads and it is a virus that donald trump has no problem unleashing, along with jd vance, on the entire electorate. And because of that, you have to expand the framing, so that people understand, this is not just a racial issue that extends to people who might appear to be haitian in some way, this is something that potentially has the ability to affect all of us who can be altered. The white nationalism frame also encompasses some of the issues that harris is really going on, like abortion. One of the things that really hasn't been talked about enough is the way in which this antiabortion rhetoric is also accompanied by replacement theory but there is a reason why you want to stop women from terminating their pregnancies, certain women, and there is a recent why you are fine with certain women like amber thurman bleeding out in parking lots. And so, the worst effects of these abortion bans are going to be visited on poor women, women of color, we are seeing that. And it is now that it is also spreading to women who look like random suburban moms, and now it is becoming a real issue, but it has always been an issue for women of color, and she has made that very clear. And i think adjoining it to this broader message white nationalism makes both of these issues, and there is a real choice here. Is also aided by the fact that there are neonazi's marching in springfield, when you talk about white supremacy, and they're talking about the great replacement theory is now a former republican orthodoxy, so the data points are there, it's just people maybe connecting them to the candidates. Melissa murray, charles coleman, two people on the road to know more about this than i do, thank you for joining me tonight, really appreciate it. Coming up, trump lackey and senator lindsey graham makes a secret trip to the state of nebraska to try and convince republicans to change the way the state awards its electoral votes. I wonder who sent him. At first, the republican candidate for governor in north carolina refers to himself as a black nazi on a porn website and he has no intention of leaving the race. That is next. [ music ] subject 1: who's coming in the driveway? subject 2: dad! dad, we missed you! daddy, hi! subject 3: i missed you. My daughter is being treated for leukemia. 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