Week. Lets get to some of the conversations you might have missed. Lets talk about the debate. In your latest piece you write quote, the most important thing i saw Kamala Harris who was pre blocking, not debunking, was waiting for someone to lie, and hit back with the truth. It is not working politics as much as you would hope it would in saturated lies, but free bunking is explain to people how they are being, or better yet will be related, what the motive is, how the con works, how the lie will be crafted and will function, and for extra credit, who benefits from it and how. In the age of trump, too any of his appointments have been debunked and no prebunked. And she said it at the outset, she said, let me say, you will hear a whole bunch of lies. And as he rolled them out, she explained why they were lies. We have talked about one of the most interesting stories about the ascension of Kamala Harris at the top of this ticket is that she has brought with her a lot of new thinking that has been circulating in the conversations for the Democratic Party about how to run campaigns and i think she is elevated. One of these things is prebunking. It simply does not work to backcheck Donald Trump. Journalists should do it, but his lies it just does not reach people when you say, no, actually, this was the crowded size, no, actually this happened on january 6th. If you explain, as the clip showed what this prebunking kind of tells you to do, to explain why this is happening, how this is happening, and she did it several times. She did it about foreign autocrats. If youre hearing on autocrats say nice things about this guy, your wife. It is because he is amenable to flattery and favors. And anyone that would praise autocrats, specifically victor or barn. And this kind of research about by this works against lies and disinformation, is that it works a little like vaccines homages to inflame the right even more, and that actually kind of by exposing people in advance to a little of what is about to, you prepare them better than when they hear it. They are more kind of careful about kind of immediately believing it. I thought that was a very interesting thing she did at multiple times throughout that night. And Mike Barnicle brings up such a good point. It was a brilliant tactic. As a lawyer, she has been a lawyer, obviously, prosecutor, Attorney General, it is what lawyers off due to juries. You reported on a lot of trials in boston, and what does Defense Counsel always the . They will get up and say, you will hear from the state, Abc D , and they are going to tell you 1, 2, 3, 4. Let me tell you why they are wrong. And he is so right. Kamala harris planted that in peoples minds saying, watch out , this is what you are going to get. Sure enough, Donald Trump did not disappoint. That is the antithesis of those 16 republicans staying on the stage in 2016 and everyone else that had to to one life, after another lie, after the horse had already left the barn, as they would say. In addition to everything you just said in your apt description of who she is, former prosecutor, and her Behavior And Command of the situation the other evening, she was also, for all practical purposes, an incumbent standing on the stage against Donald Trump. He was a challenger. Brushing off the challenger with facts, even before the debate begins, i think changed and altered everything that evening, from the handshake that she walked across the stage to give to him, which probably threw them off a little, we dont know for sure, but probably threw him off his game a bit, but then going right after him such command, command of the stage, her command presence, and the way she went after him, that was bullying, it is over before it began. Mark mccann, yesterday, you and bob headed back and forth where you both agreed that Kamala Harriss Debate Performance as it republican and a democrat who had who had prepared President S for several debates, or president ial candidates for several debates, you said, it was one of the best you have ever seen. And trump said, going back to jfk in the 1960s, the best he had seen. Jfk in 1960 and Ronald Reagan in 1980. Neil caputo from fox said, at the top of your , she was ready, he was not, which was obvious. What is not obvious is just how hard that is to do. It takes incredible preparation. People may be more natural indicators, No One is a born, natural debater. It takes intense preparation. If you try to Wing It like Donald Trump did, or Barack Obama or Judge George Bush did in their incumbent relax, you get your ass kicks, like Donald Trump did. She controlled herself, she was relax, confident she looked president ial. She commanded the late screen, which is a real talent. Youve got to learn how to do that. It is amazing. She looked like she was having a day at the beach in the sun he looked like he was in a hailstorm in the freezing cold. Not only did she troll trump incredibly, but she also trolled him with a pivot. And on a weak spot like immigration. She turns it and takes on trump. Nothing that is important to recognize too, joe, is that, people say, President S dont ever debate, they are not thrown into a situation where cameras are on, you have 30 seconds, but they are asked to prepare for highly intense situations like dealing with a foreign leader. So she has shown, she is willing to put in work and do the preparation. One last point, this is kind of inside baseball, but you have got to give a Shout Out to karen donnell, Hall Of Fame like bob strohm, the best in the business in preparation. I am a shallow media guy, i did some stuff around the edges me but there are people who do the really hard work, organizing, making sure they are prepared for everything, and i heard from a reliable source that not only did she do that, she did at the same time she was preparing for a major law firm, for a major trial for a major company the same week. Jonathan martin, news coming in about former Attorney General alberto gonzales, The Ag To former president George W. Was, just posted an endorsement in political for Kamala Harris. Not exactly a group of liberal squishes here. Hes making [ laughter ] he makes a long and detailed critique of Donald Trump, his lack of respect for his rule of law, his affinity for authoritarianism, and he believes Kamala Harris will uphold those things. I am looking over to the Bernie Sanders and Dick Cheney Retreat at Camp David asked her where they will block the first Kamala Harris term. I think that will be an interesting tell. I think there will be a lot more people who come out from the kind of bush orbit. Guys, the big question is, the former president himself, George W. Bush, is the most prominent american figure who has not been accounted for yet on the great question of our time, is trump for or against him, because he is trying to pull option c, and frankly, there is not an option c. It is hard to sustain that, but it looks like he will try here for one more term. If you are George W. Bush, and you see Donald TrumpStand Up On Stage and you say, there is something new called migrant crime. And George W. Bush ran a campaign famously, as joe knows, where he said, Family Values do not stop at the rio grande. He was trying to reorient his party around a different approach when it came to migration. Berkeley, the hispanic community. For George W. Bush to i think see what Donald Trump is doing, which is effectively make his entire campaign about demagogy immigrants come and Stay Silent , i think has got to be difficult. I know why he wanted to stay out of it, but i think it has got to be tough for the former president , given where his heart is on those issues to stay out of this game. Again, that is the Center Piece of the campaign, haitians are eating dogs in an american city , all the crime is being caused by migrant. Nevermind the facts. That is the centerpiece of the truck campaign, really the Gop Campaign this fall, bashing immigrants. That is not what those folks signed up for in austin. And i think it has got to be hard for them now. We have lots more to get to this hour. Morning Joe Weekends continues after a short break. To help reverse the 4 signs of early Gum Disease a toothpaste from parodontax, the gum experts. [introspective music] recipes. Recipes written by hand and lost to time. 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Lets go to the other side now and talk about Vice President harris with her team previewing for some of us yesterday with what she plans to do. The next underground states were begins in North Carolina. Today, tomorrow, she will start sitting for more interviews, perhaps local affiliates, rather than national ones. We will see her blanketing the battleground states. What is your assessment of what you think she needs done . Is there anything she did not accomplish tuesday she still needs to . I think she still needs to tell the story of what she would do as president , put more meat on the bone. I think the immediate decision after the debate, The Call for a second debate by the Harris Campaign was two things, an acknowledgment that they had a good debate and want to do it again, but god, it was also a concession that she still has work to do to introduce herself and outline her agenda to the american altar voter, which i dont think she has fully done yet, and partly, she just became the nominee have an hour ago, but there is still work to be done. I do think they have to be much more open about access to her. What are they afraid of at this point . She had a great speech at the convention, obviously met the moment at the debate. At some point, it reflects a lack of confidence in the candidate if youre not letting the candidate do any real interviews or ropelike conversations at all here, and everything is constrained and under control. One more thing, the more interviews you do, one Passing Gap or mistake in an interview is not going to be as damaging if there is five more the next day. Guys, take up the restraints and free kamala. We will see if they take that advice. Given how terrible Donald Trump performed in the debate, how well can Matt Harris performed, all of the things we are seeing, Donald Trump yesterday, by the way we mentioned it briefly, about a 9 11 trooper to eight 9 11 event. She is traveling on the plane, unspeakable Racist And Conspiracy theorist, all of that is in the student and yet, we know this is down to the wire again. How do we see this playing out between now and election day. That is the key fact here. You can have a commanding performance. You can have a night like that, a month of extraordinary vibes, like she had, and this is still a country where roughly half of the people are staring openly at a movement that is antidemocratic, that flirts with fascism, that talks about dictatorship. About half of americans i think at this point would, some with clear eyes, knowing what they are choosing are saying, yeah, that. She had a great night, an extraordinary night, she had a great summer. I think now, as they say all the time, there is a lot of room to grow. Still, they need to translate all of this, the Taylor Swift of it all also, into a real movement that attracts even more people, that revs up their own people to vote and creates a real passion. She has done a great job doing it. I agree with jonathan, getting out and talking with the media. By the way, us in the media sometimes, there are aspects and makes and stuff, she does not have to talk to those folks. Sit with them where he will talk to you for 2 hours, go to these podcasts, where people sit for 3 hours and actually going to be stuff. I think there is an opportunity to have bold, Policy Vision that is not just walking, but actually thrilling where people can say, wow, i can have this this time next year, if you do that, i think she still has an opportunity to tell a story that connects her biography to the larger american story in the way that Barack Obama did. It is not just being a middle class candidate. She has done little bits of it, what would you think of what happened with obama in 2008, it was a weaving of Self Biography into a 400 year american story in a way that everyone else felt, if i do this thing, i am redeeming the country. She needs to still find that story and i think it is in there if she wants it. You know, i always talk about the need for us to figure out a way forward, to figure out how to be, after this election, if Donald Trump to remember those that supported Donald Trump, the words of lincoln during the civil war, with 607,000 people died because of the actions of the confederacy, but why did lincoln say, with malice toward none. So, i got said. Im glad that Joe Biden went and showed people what that grace is like with the Trump Supporter in pennsylvania. A lot of people might not like what he did. I liked what he did. I like what it said. One america, lets work through this. All of that, lets put that right here. Now, lets go over here and i want to Follow Up with something you said. Even if Kamala Harris wins, even if she wins in an electoral landslide, the morning after the election, we will be seeing close to 80 Million americans endorsing Donald Trumps view of america. Donald trumps autocratic view of america. Donald trump, the only foreign leader that Donald Trump could say embraced him was viktor orban, who was bright about destroying western democracy. Donald trump, who said, he refused to say, i want ukraine to push back putins russian invaders. Then he said, he would terminate the consti