And tell us exactly that. I mean the personal psychology of what the country witnessed last night is really something extraordinary. A deep, dark dive into one man's broken mind is what i would like to call it, but i am waiting to hear how mary trump diagnoses it. That is what we are in for. Thank you, alex. Have a great show. Thank you. So three full years of stupid press coverage of kamala harris has finally come to an end. After three years of washington reporters turning over the question of what's wrong with kamala harris, last night they finally got their answer. Nothing. Nothing is wrong with kamala harris. Nothing ever was. They didn't think she could do this. Here is just a sample of headlines covering the vice presidency of kamala harris. One year, where did it go wrong for her? the washington post. The kamala harris staff exodus reignites questions about her leadership style and future ambitions. The new york times. Kamala harris is trying to define her vice presidency. Even her allies are tired of waiting. This headline from politico. Not a healthy environment. Rife with dissent. And from the atlantic, kamala harris problem. Few people seem to think she is ready to be president. Why? why? maybe because the washington news media had been doing everything i possibly could to deliver the message that kamala harris was not ready for the presidency for three full years. If you spend one minute reading any of those articles, you wasted that minute and if you are forced professionally to spend more than a minute, as i was, you learned nothing about the real kamala harris, which is the point of those articles. The conceit of that kind of journalism is that the reporter can get the inside story about who kamala harris really is, how she really operates and how we should value her as a political player. These articles are supposed to tell you whether she can someday do what we all saw her do last night and none of those articles predicted. This program has been covering kamala harris longer than all the news organizations whose headlines we just read. She first appeared on this program when she was district attorney of san francisco and last appeared on this program in december when a dump harris movement was brewing. At that time there were some who thought the way to deal with joe biden's age in the reelection campaign was to get a different vice presidential candidate who the country was able to see as a strong potential president, because obviously according to the pushers of this theory, no one could see kamala harris that way. As i've said repeatedly on this program, i saw kamala harris as a potential presidential candidate and potential president the day i met her in a small group meeting in los angeles in 2009. It was that obvious then. Viewers of this program repeatedly had the opportunity to see kamala harris that way, as a potential president and i would hope that faithful viewers of this program were not at all surprised by what they saw on the debate stage last night. Vice president harris being the same person she has always been. Easily crushing the 78yearold convicted felon standing across the room from her, afraid to ever even look at her. Both of those candidates on the debate stage last night were exactly who they have always been. In december, on this program, the vice president offered us a preview of some of what we heard last night. I asked the vice president then what she thought about donald trump saying that immigrants, like her parents, poisoned the blood of our country. I was raised, as you know, a child of parents who are active in the civil rights movement and i was raised knowing that there will be some people who will use their voice in a way that is meant to dehumanize. Meant to suggest that the vast majority of us don't have anything in common, when in fact the vast majority of us have more in common than what separates us and i would interpret it i think then as i would do now, which is it is language that is meant to divide us. It is language that i think people have rightly found similar to the language of hitler and it is incredibly important that we remind each other, including our children, that the true measure of the strength of a leader is based not on who they beat down, but who they lift up and sadly i think that there is something perverse that has happened in our country over the last many years, which is to suggest that strength looks like a bully, when in fact the real character of a leader is someone who has empathy. Someone who has some level of concern and care for the suffering of other people and does something to alleviate that suffering. One important democrat told me that that night, in that interview on that program was the first time he could really see kamala harris as a president. Here is some of what the vice president said in that interview about reproductive freedom, some of which you heard her say last night. This is about real people every day suffering and many of them suffering silently. We just saw the young woman and what happened to her. You know, you are on at 10:00 at night, so i'm going to assume that adults are watching, lawrence. We have to be real on this. In our country right now there are women having miscarriages in toilets. There are women who cannot afford to go to a state that will allow them access to the healthcare they need, who are suffering. There is only one state in the south and that is virginia that has still retained a law that allows a woman to make decisions about her own body. And so this is an issue that, yes, i do believe will be resolved in november of next year, because i do know that the american people fight for freedom and believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body. They were writing the what's wrong with kamala harris articles then. When she was delivering interviews like that on this program. She was the same person. The same person you saw last night. That is the same person i first heard in 2009 and the same person on the debate stage last night. Nothing changed, but what we saw on the debate stage last night was a big surprise to the reporters and editors turning out all of those articles about kamala harris for the past three years. A big surprise to most of the washington press corps who could not clearly see the person right in front of them for those three years. Here is another part and i am showing you this only because of how important it is, the way the vice president has been covered the last three years, why it feels like a surprise to so many people that she was so strong last night and here is another part of her role in the world that was completely ignored by most of those articles that turned out to be so wrong about kamala harris. From the moment that i saw that video, i've been waiting to ask you, what did that moment feel like? that was pure joy, you know? we all hope in our lives that we can have an impact in a way that hopefully inspires or gives people a sense of confidence in what is possible for themselves and who they love and their community. It was very special, lawrence. Thanks for sharing that clip. I had not seen that. It was very special and you know, you have heard me say many times, my mother would say to me, you may be the first to do many things. Make sure you are not the last. I have been fortunate and blessed during the course of being vice president have many situations where it becomes clear to me that there are, you know, people of every age and gender, by the way, who see something about being the first that lets them know they don't need to be limited by other people's limited understanding of who can do what and i think that is important and it relates to all people and so thank you for sharing that with me. Thank you. That should not have been the first time the vice president was seeing that video. It should've been everywhere. I had shown that video on this program nine months before that, but i did not see it anywhere else because the political press wasn't really trying to report on what kamala harris was really doing is vice president. They were simply trying to collect gossip and sell it to you is wisdom and insight about who kamala harris really is and it was worse with the right wing media of course on fox. A venomous republican senator from louisiana said, the vice president needs to work on being a little more articulate. English is not her first, second, third, or even fourth language. The movement to replace joe biden on the ticket was also always a movement to replace kamala harris on the ticket. One of the earliest and certainly the wisest leaders of the movement was ezra klein who in february and the new york times wrote, quote, everybody i talked to about this, literally everybody, has brought up the same fear. In theory she should be the favorite, but she pulls slightly worse than biden. Democrats don't trust she will be a stronger candidate, but they worry if she wasn't chosen it would rip the party apart. A large group of democrats should compete for the nomination if president biden stepped down and kamala harris probably would not when that nomination. Ezra klein was of course smart enough to admit that the contested convention scenario could go very badly. My only contribution to the scenarios when they were being discussed was that the only possible alternative nominee to joe biden as i saw it was kamala harris and that is the way it turned out and joe biden dropped out. 27 minutes later endorsed kamala harris and within hours she had enough delegates to secure the nomination, so they were wrong about her abilities. They were wrong about what would happen if joe biden dropped out of the race and they were very, very wrong about what would happen with kamala harris on the presidential debate stage this year. Donald trump was no doubt one of the big believers of that large pile of journalistic trash that was turned out about vice president harris. So i think along with most of the washington press corps, we can count donald trump as one of the people who was very surprised by what happened on that debate stage. For every presidential candidate prior to donald trump, the debate stage has revealed next to nothing about how they would actually handle the job of the presidency. The debates definitely revealed policy differences, but they usually don't reveal much more about the person. Every debate donald trump has ever participated in has revealed that he does not know how to be president of the united states and last night's debate, thanks to kamala harris, revealed that he does not know how to be a human being. Beginning with the entrance of the candidates. Donald trump obviously entered with a plan to not shake hands. Vice president harris entered with the opposite plan and she took full charge of that moment. Very much against donald trump's will. Let's now welcome the candidates to the stage. Vice president kamala harris and president donald trump. Kamala harris. Thank you. Welcome to you both. Trumpeters, you see timidly and slowly on the left side of your screen, thinking maybe slowing his walk down would give him a later, cooler entrance, but kamala harris, 20 years younger, strides in purposely, straight for donald trump and instantaneously establishes domination over him. We are going to do this my way is the subtext of what she is saying to donald trump with that outstretched hand. For 90 minutes she spoke directly to the american people. Sometimes directly to donald trump and when she wasn't speaking she was always turning and listening to donald trump, the way a human being would. And in her way to emphasize, by her listening, the absurdity of what donald trump was saying with her human reactions to what she was hearing. Donald trump chose two modes at the podium. The angry and bitter 78year old man, while he was speaking, and the mug shot face while he was listening. He did not once dare to turn and look at the vice president of the united states when she was speaking. Just mug shot face. He wasn't looking at the moderators, either. He wasn't looking at us through the camera. He was looking at nothing, just lost in the wilderness of his own confusion of what was happening to him and what was happening to him was that he was being beaten much worse than any losing candidate in any presidential debate in history. What you saw in kamala harris was simply the most overwhelmingly strong performance by a presidential debater in the history of presidential debates, which began only in 1960, so it isn't very long and you can watch every one of them online. Most presidents never debated anyone. I am sure john kerry won all three of his debates against george w. Bush. I've never seen a better presidential debater. But john kerry didn't when those debates by some giant margin. The giant margin last night. There are no great, memorable lines from the winners of presidential debates. Until now. I have talked with military leaders, some of whom worked with you and they say you are a disgrace. Young people might not know that prior to the political career of donald trump, no candidate in a presidential debate ever dreamed of saying that the other candidate is a disgrace. That could not happen until donald trump brought his life of crime and disgrace to the presidential debate stage. Last night, donald trump lied to the voters about the voters. When he claimed that everyone wanted roe v. Wade to be overturned. Donald trump climbed everyone, democrats, republicans, independents, everyone watching wanted roe v. Wade to be overturned even though an overwhelming majority of the american people did not wanted overturned and so, after donald trump lied to the american people about the american people and what they wanted, vice president harris said this. Donald trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body. I have talked with women around our country. You want to talk about this is what people wanted? pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage and being denied carry in an emergency room because healthcare providers are afraid that they might go to jail and she is bleeding out in a car in a parking lot. She didn't want that. Her husband didn't want that. A 12 or 13yearold survivor of incest, being forced to carry a pregnancy to term. They don't want that and i pledge to you when congress passes a bill, to put back in place the protections of roe v. Wade. As president of the united states i will proudly sign it into law. The same person. That was the same person i first heard speak in 2009. That was the same person you heard on this program in december. There was nothing surprising about any of that, except to the people who were never paying attention to the real kamala harris. Donald trump's response that was, of course, a lie. They have abortion in the ninth month. They even have, you can look at the governor of west virginia, the previous governor of west virginia, not the current governor. Doing an excellent job. But the governor before. He said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby. In other words we will execute the baby. There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it is born. I want to get your response to president trump. Imagine in that moment the panicked workings of the mind of that raging racist being corrected on the debate stage last night by two black women. The racism that donald trump grew up with, told him, promised him, that that kind of thing could never happen to him. 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