Transcripts For MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240910 : co

Transcripts For MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240910

Thank you very much for letting us into your homes during these extra ordinary times. Hi, nicole, do you have Plans Tomorrow . With you. Plans with america. I will see you then and rachel. Thank you. Welcome to the beat, with this being Debate Week we will show you how Kamala Harris looks on this important night. Striking a note there arriving in philadelphia. Her team has been talking up trumps tricks and his certain skills on the Debate Stage while tearing down his pension for lies and the babble. She was also seen walking with the second gentleman and asked about the big night tomorrow. Are you ready Madam Vice President . Ready there you have it. Harris did her first national News Interview as the nominee. She is doing other media and just discussed the debate with Radio Personality with ricky smiley. Truth versus lies. He plays from this really old and tired playbook, right. Where he, there is no floor for him in terms of how low he will go and we should be prepared for that. We should be prepared for the fact that he is not burdened by telling the truth and we should be prepared for the fact that he is probably going to speak a lot of untruth. A lot of untruth. A point that may sound obvious to news viewers, trump lies more than any other politician in both parties, not a republican versus democrat, it is a trump versus everybody thing. The reason Debates Matter is they reach tons of people who rarely follow politics and news. So, yes, i am talking to you through the news, nicole and i were talking to you, rachel has coverage tomorrow, it is all of the news, the reason campaigns care so much about there is how it goes beyond the normal people involved in the news and civic life if you want to call it that. Well beyond us. Summer debate . With biden, it reached over 51 Million people live. The 2020 Trump Debate reached a whopping 73 Million people. That is orders of magnitude, six times the normal News Consumption Audience any given night. Those people will hear from Harris And Trump Tomorrow Night. High six. It may not be obvious to people who are not regular political consumers just how much trump lies. Take one example. The Maga Abortion Crack down that so many people are living through, is widely opposed around the nation. It is unpopular, including in conservative states. At the last debate, trump went out claiming how it was actually really popular. And, some people could be tricked or confused by that especially if they dont have personal experience in that. That is just an example of something he does where the Candidate Responding has to decide how much do you Fact Check that with your answer and rebut that and reframe it and make sure people understand it is not a red blue thing, kansas, florida has a plan to maybe overthrow some of it, legally. But that is why so many candidates, including republicans, have found trump is hard to debate. Harris for her part has shown an assertive style including on these kind of issues and truth and lies when she was in debates running against the Trump Pence Ticket last cycle. Donald trump on the other hand has been about covering up everything. We are about freedom and respecting the freedom of the american people. Lets talk about respecting the american people. You respect the american people when you tell them the truth. I think it is supposed to be a debate based on fact and truth. Donald trump doesnt understand that because he doesnt understand what it means to be honest. Honesty, facts, truth. Truth not only as a democratic value if you want to be high minded that we can debate the size of the government, the size of immigration flows, or how much money we should spend on this or that but we would have to be telling the truth. What is the point of debating if the numbers are made up. That is sort of the active kind of obvious reason why you have truth if you are debating something. But she went further there, we may see that as a preview of what she does Tomorrow Night. Trying to make sure the public understands that if the other side, she argues it, trump and pence, lie about everything they dont respect you. It is a front. Trying to put what we might call a larger Organizing Structure around it. So it is not just politicians snapping at Each Other about each claim or lie but a larger point. And to land that she has to find ways to prove it. So that people with their own eyes and ears in they are not super political and have questions about her or even if they have not decided who they are voting for start to get the sense of where this hour plus, one person might be lying more, and that person does not respect you as she put it, how are you going to give them power if you can not believe what they say . Now, Donald Trump has done six general election debates, harris has done one with pence, i just showed you. She is trying to prep up and catch up in a way. Reporting shows they have a mock stage, a Trump Stand in unleashing the kind of harsh attacks and offensive comment that can throw a seasoned politician off like practicing anything else. Trump is practicing how to respond to his attacks on his character the post reports. Now, usually campaigns slow down a little bit right now in this week. The Harris Campaign started later than ever because of the shift that we all know about. And because it a tight Race Harris is pushing all kinds of themes new this week and prepping for the debate. They got that Dick Cheney Endorsement last week and,they are using their Cash Edge to run the new ads, i will show you briefly. About Donald Trump and how he can not keep the confidence of his own aides who have seen him up close and private. I can tell you they are running on Fox News which trump officials criticizing trump, and they also, we know, are airing this locally in the mar alago media market. So, that Donald Trump himself might catch it live. Anyone who puts themselves over the constitution should never be the president of the united states. His defense secretary. Do you think trump can be trusted with the nations secrets ever again . No. His national security advisory. Donald trump will cause a lot of damage. Take it from the people who knew him best, Donald Trump is a danger to our troops and our democracy. Pretty striking. That comes, again, after Dick Cheney himself endorsed harris. I want to be clear. What you are seeing here in the politics of national security and these republicans is extraordinary. In the traditional sense of the world extraordinary. Not ordinary, unusual, striking. Because we live through these times i talked to you about this before where a lot of extraordinary and unusual things happen. You can say it cant all be unusual, right . But this Cheney Swing of both Family Members was unknowledgeable unimaginable eight years ago when he was endorsing trump. Lifelong republicans, hawks, saying we have seen Donald Trump, our Number One issue is national security, and you can not give him power again. It would be dangerous to this country. That is the Mood Music going into this big debate. Donald trumps response is important because sometimes you see him adjust. I told you, this character of him is a angry Idiot End Quote it is not only unfair it is not true. Sometimes he has a keen sense of things like i told you, he has been changing his position or claiming he has different positions on abortion because he sees his position is unpop ar, running from project 2025 and sees it is toxic and states the matter. On his national security Issues Trump is not adjusting, not tacking to the senator, to the center, and he is not responding to the substance of those serious people including Dick Cheney that i just showed you. What trump was doing over the weekend, and there is a reason we are showing you this. We dont just show you things and show you lies around here but it is important to Fact Check and show you. Trump is vowing what sounds like violent or illegal order policies. Before i slow you what he says i will put this law as you see it. I will leave it on the screen for a moment. U. S. Law enforcement are not supposed to escalate encounters let alone aim for bloody border patrol. Indeed, under law, using Deadly Force is illegal unless an officer faces an individually grave measurable risk of harm. Those rules bind all u. S. Law enforcement including border patrol. That brings me to it should be known so you can understand what we get from Trump Tomorrow Night might not be this extreme. He might run away from this. To his base with that programming he is campaigning on what he says he will do. He will order officials to go passed what i just showed you what the law is, that he will do quote bloody border enforcement, he will have people killed immediately for returning to the u. S. Border. Getting them out will be a bloody story. Should never have been allowed to come into our country f. You come back you will be executed. You will be killed immediately. Not going to be easy. But we will do it. That is what he is running on in public. Even as he might run away from it because he has some political and pr instincts Tomorrow Night. Fact check. What you just heard him say, the former president , current republican nominee is requesting an illegal order. So, those are the kind of order that if issued are still immediately illegal. There is no immediate Kill Policy allowed. U. S. Officials take an oath to the constitution. Not to any president even Donald Trump and whatever he thinks he can order even if he is reelected. U. S. Officials would have an obligation to resist that kind of unlawful order. Groups might sue to prevent anyone from doing immediate executions on the border. And this is not just me as a lawyer turned News Anchor Reminding of you of some technicalities, we have precedents, judges swiftly halted trumps Immigration Bans because they were found to be likely unlawful. They were Halting Penaltiing further Court Review even throw he said do it, everyone who follows the constitution, people in law enforcement, dhs, said no. By the way, that Travel Ban did not involve something as extreme as people being quote killed immediately unquote. It was still halted. At the same rally i wanted you to know he made the claim quote this might be our last election and over the weekend he posted lies about the election and played a vow to jail lawyers, operatives, donors, quote, illegal voters, basically who cross him. Officials say rhetoric could provoke violence. A careful sentence but an understatement. Not just a risk of what could happen that may or may not happen. It is a logical Outcome And Intent of the same person who fanned the flames of the last insurrection with the big Lie That led to the violent storms of the capital, attempted coup. There is a real link from trumps lies to the damage that harris aims to address in realtime when it goes down Tomorrow Night. While she also has to do the balance of advocating her vision, not getting completely buried in responding to trump. Which is the Debate Balance i mentioned earlier in this break down. And that is, again, not a blue or red thing, not a democrat or republican thing. If you are old enough to remember the early republican debates that balance, how much do you respond to him without looking like all of your time in the debate is about him, which in a weird way makes him larger even if it criticizes him. The balance is confounded republicans who thought they could stop him when he appeared and dismissed his types of lies and Bluster And Performance as a thrash in the pan, back in the day. Remember, if you are getting ready for Tomorrow Night going trump is going to blow it. Democrats also had to witness how trump managed to strike a less plod that worked strategically to biden there is true in the courtroom or the debate. It is a mark of skill if you are already winning to know when to drop back or calm down because you dont need to say more. The other side is helping you win. Harristeam knows all of this. Best we can tell. They also know one reason they are currently doing better in the state polls that matter than the same democratic ticket seem to be doing a few months ago when she was the runningmate and not the nominee. Right now, i am going to do what i do around here. Tell you something that you already know. The Harris Campaign sees that democrats and her side are more excited than they were a few months ago because they have something affirmative. Her energy, positivity, the idea of turning the page with a new leader for the country. And that is different than just warning about the very real dangers of more trumpism that i just slowed you with facts that is sought there this weekend and can not be ignored, either. A tough balance, maybe too tough for me. Maybe too tough for some of the People Trump has vanquished . Is it too tough for harris . 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We know that i believe he, you know, he will be muted so if that is the case it will be a similar case where she can possibly hear him speaking and we dont hear him speaking saying who knows what. And it will be just opportunity for her to try to present herself as strong, President Ial, ready to lead the country and also trying to Fact Check simultaneously just some of the more egregious things that he has said and the more things he has done and promise to do and that is a complicated endeavor for harris, he is a show man, has no shame, has outright lies with a straight face. I think she is right about that. I would put a small addendum. They watch to see if there will be a train wreck. And, so, this is as much entertainment for voters as it is the substance of policy. You know, keep in mind this is not a traditional debate, you know. You have reporters asking a question. Someone may respond or not or move on to another question. There is no real debate. So, the framing becomes very important for each candidate. How they debate the other person. And in her case i think she will have a chance to do that in

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