Party. Vice president harris reacting to getting the baking from former congresswoman Liz Cheney and also cheneys father, Dick Cheney. The former Vice President following the warning he heard from his daughter, that its not enough just to not vote for Donald Trump. He will take the next Step And Vote for Kamala Harris. In his statement released On Friday, he called trump a threat to our republic and pointed to his repeated 2020 election lies. Quote, he tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him. He can never be trusted with power again. Trump responded in a social Media Post calling Dick Cheney irrelevant. He also did a lot of other things on Social Media that well be talking about this morning. Good morning. Welcome. Monday morning. Welcome to Morning Joe. It is september 9th. Good to have you with us. With us, we have the host of Way Too Early, white House Bureau Chief at politico, Jonathan Lemire. The president of the national Action Network and host of msnbcs politics nation, Reverend Al sharpsharpton. Nbc affairs and partner and chief political columnist at puck, John Heilemann is with us. Staff writer at The Atlantic, Mark Leibovich joins us, as well. Strong words from Liz Cheney, her father Dick Cheney. It really is. Will there be former republican elected leaders, or members of their cabinet, that would speak out like george w. Bush or Condoleezza Rice . Its interesting. You have, mika, now, of course, you have a coalition for the democratic nominee that goes from Aoc And Bernie sanders to Joe Biden, all the way to liz and Dick Cheney. Those are all people who are supporting Kamala Harris. And on the democratic on the republican side, you just dont have any former President S, any former people that, you kno people running for president , certainly not mitt romney, not a variety of people. Yeah. You know, even Mike Pence, his Vice President , wasnt there. Now, Sarah Palin may be supporting him. Right. But, you know, go down the list of people who worked for Donald Trump. See how many of those people, secretary of defense, the Secretary Of State, national Security Adviser, who refuse to endorse him, for good reason. Yeah. Well, i think they want a clean slate. They want a republican party back someday, and they see their unfortunate truth, that voting for Kamala Harris would finally give them a chance to eradicate the party of Donald Trump, who is not a republican, not a conservative, and has not held his word on practically anything. So they get a chance to rebuild perhaps. Well, you see what Dick Cheney said. You know, youre talking about why would Dick Cheney, a lifelong conservative . As he said, Donald Trump tried to steal the election. Its obvious unless you plug yourself into disinformation. Trying to do it again already. He used violence and lies to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him. He cant be trusted. He started the January 6th riots. He tried to undermine american democracy. He promised this weekend, well get to it in a second, he was going to arrest his political opponents. Not only his political opponents, but his political opponents donors. He got down into, i will arrest the donors. He talked about, of course, Mass Deportation and promising it was going to be bloody. Talked about terminating the constitution. Talked about being a dictator on day one. I could go down the list. Yet, despite that, even if Kamala Harris wins and wins comfortably which, right now, its a tie. Weve been telling you, its a tie. Democrats, if they want harris to win have to work harder than republicans. Even with that, about half of americans will be voting for a man who did all the things Dick Cheney said Donald Trump did. Yeah. All the things weve listed. All the things that they know. And americans, i think all of us, we just need to sit back and try to figure out, is it really just the disinformation that these people see every day that are leading almost half of americans to support that . Well, its a mixture of that and a lot of other things, including, i think, the Mainstream Media that claims to be objective. Theres some sort of instinctive brainwasher. I wonder if hes asked about any of this during the debate. I doubt it. Id be surprised. It should never, but it never does. They never ask. Theyll probably start with Monetary Policy or quantitative easing, something like that. Like it is 1978. Yeah. Heres what Donald Trump was doing over the weekend. Again, i wonder if hell be asked about this. Pushing false claims, threatening anyone who does not support him. In a post on saturday, the former president warned he would try to imprison anyone who engaged in, quote, unscrupulous behavior during this years race. What does he mean by that . Of course, people who arent supporting him, right . Right. Political operatives, lawyers, donors. Yesterday, he continued to amplify false information about the 2020 election by referencing an outlandish claim from the far right that 20 of Pennsylvanias Mailin ballots were fraudulent. Well, of course, the mailin Ballots Havent even started to be sent in yet. These are the type of lies Chris Christie said he started telling them in early 2020 because he thought he was going to lose. The more he realized he was going to lose in the spring of 2020, the more he started amplifying those lies. And hes doing it now. If i had an opportunity to ask him questions or moderate anything, i would start probably with whether the 2020 election was stolen, but then head straight to this. This is the heart of the matter between these candidates. Not his madeup policies on Child Care that make no sense. On friday, trump spoke to the paternal order of police and encouraged officers to watch for Voter Fraud because voters would be afraid of them. You want to run a country that is based on fair and free voting . Youre in serious trouble if you get caught trying to find out what are the real results of an election. Its an amazing thing. You ever see that . They go after the people that are looking at the crime, and they do terrible things to them. But the people that committed the Voter Fraud and everything, they can do whatever they want to do. Its so crazy. And i hope you as the greatest people, just as great as there is. Anybody in our country, i who you watch for Voter Fraud. It starts early, you know . It starts in a week. But i hope you can watch and youre all over the place. Watch for the Voter Fraud because without Voter Fraud, we win so easily. Hopefully well win anyway, but we want to keep it down. You can keep it down just by watching. Believe it or not, theyre afraid of the badge, afraid of you people. Theyre afraid of that more than anything else. They are afraid. I hope you can watch. What, they can watch all they want. You know, Donald Trumps own staff members watched in 2020, and do you know what they said . The person who are in charge of actually watching the election that Donald Trump put in charge, Chris Krebs said it was the cleanest, fairest election on record. Of course, Donald Trump see, and this is the thing. People go, oh, i dont know what to believe because Donald Trump says this, but then i turn on this Cable News Channel thats lying for 24 hours a day on the right, and they tell me that what he is saying is The Truth. Were like well, they dont talk about that. You know what The Truth is, and you deliberately choose lies. You know where the light is, and you deliberately choose the darkness. You do it deliberately because you know and i know, 63 federal judges said there was no evidence of any, any fraudulent behavior, any widespread Voter Fraud in 2020. The united states supreme court, Time And Again, refused to listen to these because there was nothing there. The one time they did in a pennsylvania case, the most conservative justices said, you know what . Even if we responded to this case, it wouldnt change the outcome of the election. You had republican officials in michigan, republican officials in pennsylvania, republican officials in georgia, republican officials in arizona repeatedly say that their elections were fair, and yet the lies tonight. Now, am i saying this because i think Donald Trumps ever going to change his tactics . No, he knows hes lying. He admitted last week he was lying. He said he lost by a smidge, whatever he said. No, im saying this for the people that actually continue to spread his lies and know differently. John heilemann, you know, the pace that has picked up so much over the past couple weeks about Donald Trump saying, oh, theyre going to steal the election, theyre going to steal the election, it suggests the man doesnt have a whole lot of confidence that hes actually going to win this election. Right. I think, you know, the pace is eerie, joe, if you look at the timeline in 2020, and youd see the same thing. We remark about it all time, theres never been a Race Trump has won where he has not tried to preframe a loss as the result of a stolen election, as a result of a fraudulent election, as a result of cheating. He did that in 2016. He did it in 2020. He did it this time. The difference between 2016 and 2020 was that, in 2016, it was a relatively late phenomenon when he started to really lean in on that question. In 2020, he started laying the groundwork a lot earlier. He started laying it around very early again this time around. The pace is picking up now in the way it did in immediately after labor day, heading into the fall of 2020. Of course, We Saw how that turned out in the period after the election up to january 20th. I think there is a widespread sense of concern on the part of across parties but on the part of everybody who cares about trying to make sure the transition of power after this election is peaceful. There is an enormous amount of concern, especially in the wake of January 6th last time around with that precedent in the books that trump is driving head listening into that again. If anything, ramping it up even more so. Of course, this race has been turning against him of late, that makes it all the more unnerving. Yeah. Lets be, again, very clear, that about half of americans, little less than half of americans, want to support a man who started riots and is doing exactly what John Heilemann said. Hes doing it again. They know he is doing it, and theyre completely fine with it. Not only is he sowing doubt be the election, but get people to protect him. See what you see. Read what you read. Go somewhere you can get real information. People are really busy and they dont want it. Im not blaming the voter yet. They plug in intentionally to disinformation. I wonder what they think of this. I dont know what they would think of one of their sons or brothers or fathers acting this way. Trump also mocked a woman who claimed he groped her on an airplane in the 1970s, suggesting she wasnt attractive enough for him to grope her. Take a listen. Think of the impracticality of this. Im famous. Im in a plane. People are coming into the plane. And im looking at a woman and i grab her and i start kissing her and making out with her. What are the chances of that happening . What are the chances . And, frankly, i know youre going to say its a terrible thing to say, but it couldnt have happened. It didnt happen. And she would not have been the chosen one. She would not have been the chosen one. Not a lot of people whod want to be the chosen one in that situation, being groped by that or anybody. Mark leibovich, you spoke to Liz Cheney, and she had some choice words for Donald Trump on this. Yeah, i mean, she usually does. What was interesting is i interviewed her in austin, texas, On Friday. I think, you know, what people took from that, i asked who her dad was voting for. He said her dad would vote for Kamala Harris. But she went way further. She usually stays in the lane of democracy, of Election Inter inter interference, the lines of why he is so dangerous. But i asked if she had advice for Kamala Harris in the Debate Tomorrow Night. She said, basically, you know, one of the things about Donald Trump and Jd Vance is she used the word misogynistic pigs, which kind of got my attention, got the audiences attention. I hadnt heard her go down that lane before. Yeah, i mean, she gave a much more frontal and full, comprehensive critique of Donald Trump than she does, which is usually, you know i mean, its not narrow, but she focuses pretty much on January 6th, on the post election stuff. This was pretty striking to me, and im curious to see what role she plays going forward in the campaign. Yeah. Well, this is Liz Cheney talking to you this weekend. If you were advising Kamala Harris going into this debate on, i guess monday, monday or tuesday, tuesday, with Donald Trump, you know, hes not a fun or easy guy to debate, obviously. How do you think she should proceed . Look, i think that, you know, every opportunity that Donald Trump gets to show the american people who he is, he pretty clearly and, look, his Running Mate is doing this, too this is my diplomatic way of saying it. Theyre misogynistic pigs. [ Laughter And Applause ] and i think its i think that will become clear. Yeah. So what else was your main takeaway from the interview . Basically, she kept going in that vein. It was a very, very you know, it was spirited. The crowd loved her. I mean, just like so many liberal College Towns these days, i mean, Liz Cheney, i never thought id say these words, but it was really there were lines out the door. They were down the street. Blocks and blocks. Sounds great. Yeah, it was pretty boisterous. Got a lot of questions. Look, i think she is really committed to this and has been since the election in 2020, or even before, certainly before January 6th and going through the last couple years. I think well see more of that. Im curious to see how shell be deployed by the campaign and what dealings shes had with Kamala Harris team. Im not sure, she doesnt get into that, but i think, you know, she certainly will play a role. The former president is standing by his supporters who attacked the capitol January 6th, promising to pardon them as soon as he takes office. The moment we win, we will rapidly review the cases of every political prisoner unjustly victimized by the harris regime, and i will sign their pardons on day one. Ill sign it day one. I need to go to lemire on this. Yeah, Jonathan Lemire, you wrote the book on the big lie. Heres Donald Trump talking about the rioters who tried to stop the count