Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240909 : comparemela.com

Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240909

I wanted all of this to be behind us, and go on happily ever after. Single mom meets single dad, and in a single moment, it was love. He was very handsome. He was fun. All smiles. Very outgoing, charming. Everything he did melted my heart. There was something else about this dreamy single dad. Something about his past. Something deadly. I just came in the house. I saw January Et On The Floor. He was crying. He was in shock. His whole life was shattered. He said, i should probably let you know that my wife was actually murdered. Killed in a crime that had never been solved. She was almost the perfect victim. And what about him . He had become the focus in his first wifes mysterious death. Was he a victim, too . Im a father, i have a family. I felt horrible for him. You didnt want to believe it . Who would want to believe that . Hello, and welcome to dateline. Vanessa pond was a single parent looking for a second chance at love, and then raven albaroa, she thought she found her soul mate. The pair started dating, then came a chilling admission. Raven told vanessa he was carrying heavy baggage. More than 2,000 miles away, he was a suspect in his wifes unsolved murder. Still, Vanessa Clung to the dream that they could live happily ever after. Heres josh with deadly denial. She found plenty of the wrong guys. Now, here in front of her, was someone different. We met at a daycare where both of our children went todaycare. Vanessa pond of Salt Lake City was 25 and a single parent when back in 2007, she met Raven Abaroa. Like vanessa, he was single and raising a child alone. He was very charming. He would always come up with such fascinating dates. He seemed different. He seemed very different. A good guy . Very good guy. And you fell for him . Hard. Along with the charm and the lavish dates, raven also had a story. A horrible, awful story. That had changed his life and would also change Vanessa Ponds. The Story Raven told wasnt just about himself. It was about his first wife, janet. He said, well i should probably let you know that my wife was actually murdered. The murder, raven said, happened three years earlier when they were living in durham, North Carolina. It happened in a Home Invasion and he came home and found her and didnt want to talk about it any further. Its not the kind of Thing Vanessa expected to hear. I was beside myself. Vanessa retreated to her laptop and began searching online. Looking for exactly the details. Raven had not provided. I had started researching and i stayed up until 4 00, 4 30 in the morning. The homicide, vanessa learned, occurred in april of 2005. Raven had just come home from playing in a nighttime Soccer Game when he found his wife On The Floor of their tinny second floor office. Janet had been stabbed three times. Raven talked to us about that dreadful discovery. When i initially look at her, im talking to her. Like hey, janet, whats wrong . And then, it clicks on me that her eyes are open looking at me, but shes not blinking her eyes. Something was terribly wrong. Okay, youre going have to calm down. Whats the address . For Janets Parents, Val And Janet jansen, it was the worst day of their lives. I pick up the Phone And Raven screaming into the phone. She is gone. Thats what he was saying. Shes gone. Of course, i cant breathe. I thought for sure i was having a heart attack. They raced to durham, to be by ravens side. They immediately broke down into bawling. Tears. I remember putting my arms around him saying, well get through this together. Everyone was left to wonder. Why janet . A woman as gentle as she is pretty. She was extremely loyal, i guess is the word, with all of her friends. When she has close friends, shes really good to them. Shes really good to me. She always wanted everyone to be happy. Very supportive of people. And love to help other people. That came in handy, growing up in a mormon household, with no fewer than nine siblings. She was a peacemaker. She didnt like confrontation. Absolutely not. In college, janet excelled in the classroom, and especially on the soccer field. From a very early age, janet had her Sight Set on something more. Her goal in life was to be married and have children and be a mom. To having, well, a perfect home. Enter janets college sweetheart, raven. With her, i want to say we knew right away. We started talking about a relationship three weeks. He was very handsome. I said all the time, youre the allamerican couple. It was a foregone conclusion that this young couple was destined for marriage. It rained the night of the wedding, but no one seemed to care. And then, the perfect All American couple completed the perfect picture. Welcoming into their world, a son, caden. She said, this is so phenomenal. Oh, she loved, absolutely loved being a mother. Just six months later, that perfect picture went dark and janet was discovered lying in a pool of her own blood. Was there anyone who disliked her . Not that i know of. She was a good person. Three years later in Salt Lake City, the news of Janets Homicide was also shocking to Vanessa Pond. Vanessa had learned the killing had never been solved. She wanted more details from raven about his terrible loss. We sat down and had a conversation. I had my questions written out and so we addressed every single one. How long did that take . We took an entire evening to go over everything. When the evening was over, vanessa was convinced that the horrific crime back in 2005 had claimed two victims. One, of course, was janet. The other was raven. I felt so, so, so, so sorry for him. I couldnt imagine possibly going through that. Coming up, why had this killing never been solved . We delve into the clues. A bloody Shoe Print, mystery dna, and a coin in the yard. When dateline continues. 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For everyone who loved janet, the days following the homicide back in 2005 were agonizing. Raven says he found himself asking the same question over and over again. Why we could have this beautiful child. Why we can have this beautiful relationship and then to have her die. Misty foxily, a friend of Janet And Raven attended janets memorial service. How did raven look . He looked crushed, but he was trying to hold up. Soon, attention turned to finding her killer. We didnt know exactly what happened. All we could think is somebody broke into the house. For what reason . Didnt expect her there and killed her. Charles, now retired was a cop with the Durham Police department in 2005. When he was called to the scene of Janets Homicide. It was a twostory family residence. Quiet for sure. Exposing a wound through the center of her chest. Janet also had a Stab Wound to her hand, suggesting she tried to protect herself. The fatal wound was to her neck and the weapon was nowhere in sight. There was literally no disturbance on the desk. Suggesting it was not some violent struggle . No, not at all. Which was kind of odd based on it being a stabbing. Crime scene investigators began the task of swabbing the entire house. It was no surprise that most of the blood and fingerprints tested came back as either ravens or janets. There were some things that tech had a harder time explaning. The first was a fingerprint found on the upstairs closet door, not far from janets body. The print didnt come back to anybody . No. Then there was a Shoe Print left in blood next to janet. Could you tell anything about this bloody footprint . It was right there by janet, but nothing definitive about the type of shoe, the make or anything. Finally, analysts found unidentified dna mixed with Janets Blood on a Storm Door leading to the side entrance. None of that forensic evidence could be traced to raven, janet, or anyone connected to the investigation. Those are things as an investigator, you want to figure out. While technicians processed the house, detectives began interviewing raven, hoping he could help point them in the direction of janets killer. Raven was visibly crying. He looked like he was distraught and upset. He himself said that he knew of no enemy that she had. He realized that some items from the house were missing. And they asked me, well where was the last time you had the computer . This would have been later that night or the next day . It was later that night. It was in that initial meeting with them. His computer was gone. Robbery . It was possible. He also talked about some knives being missing. Had there been burglaries in that neighborhood . Yes. Lisa seely was one of the neighbors that had been burglarized. Your car was broken into, right . Yes, it was unlocked and someone took out some change. A seamingly petty, relatively insignificant theft. Until a K9 Dog was called to search the grounds of the home where janet had been killed. When the dog got to the front of the house, it stopped unexpectedly. It was in that proximity where the bottle was. The dog made his alert that there was something in that area. There, among the weeds, the dog had found a coin. One of the neighbors reported her car had been broken into and some change had been stolen. Thats correct. One theory is that maybe this coin was from that . Certainly could have been. A homicide, a burglary down the road. And a coin that could link the two. Detectives needed to find out more about that coin. Coming up, secrets from the past revealed. You never knew when the coin would flip and all of a sudden, everything that was wrong in the world was her fault. When dateline continues. Pete g. Writes, my tween wants a new phone. How do i not break the bank . We gotcha, pete. Xfinity mobile was designed to save you money and gives you access to wifi speeds up to a gig. So you get high speeds for low prices. Better than getting low speeds for high prices. Right, bruce . Jealous . Yeah, look at that. Honestly, someone get a helmet on this guy. Get a free unlimited line for a year when you buy one unlimited line. Plus, get up to 800 off Google Pixel 9 phones. Switch today the theory that janet Aboroas Death was Collateral Damage from a burglary gone bad was not getting much traction. Generally, when you surprise a burglar, they dont fight you or kill you, they try to run away. Correct. There was no rummaging. None of the ransacking you would see in a breakin. It just didnt add up. As for the coin found in front of the abaroa home, the Police Dog was unable to track a scent from it. Back to the house or anywhere else. Detectives were having a hard time finding a link between the burglary down the road and janets killing. The next step was the obvious one. Detectives took a look at janets husband, raven. Its pretty common to look at the spouse in situations like this. Thats correct. Thats, you know, part of the process. According to raven, the day of the murder was like any other for the abaroas. Raven told investigators that a member of the church had come over the evening of the incident. Later that night is when raven left janet and his son at home to go play in a nighttime Soccer Game about a half hour away. Jason small, was one of ravens teammates. Business as usual. A bunch of guys playing soccer together, nothing out of the ordinary. Raven seemed normal to you that night . Completely normal. After the game, raven told police he drove to a Gas Station to grab a sports drink. Just to be sure, detectives checked the stations security video. And there was raven. Raven said he then headed home to find Caden Undisturbed in his crib, but janet laying in a pool of blood. Shes dead. Calm down, okay . Whats the address . Detectives also talked to Ravens Family and friends. On all accounts, he was outgoing, friendly, charming, and broke. They dont have any money. They Cant Rub two nickels together. Money or the lack of it may have been behind something that happened five months earlier. Raven had been caught stealing Sporting Equipment from his employer, and reselling it on ebay. Ravens mother, karen, was stunned. I just couldnt believe it. I was like, how could you be so stupid . At least he admitted it. He didnt try to get out of it. I was proud of him for that. For owning up . For owning up. Along with the young couples financial stress, friends told Detectives Raven and janet had also had a brush with infidelity. According to janets friend, brittney, within months of the wed, raven had cheated on janet. How did she sound when that happened . Devastated. She forgave him. She made promises to love him for good, for bad, for ugly, and to support him. But brittney noticed other problems in the marriage. Janet was struggling with what appeared to be ravens increasingly dramatic mood swings. She told me that sometimes things were like perfect, and it was like holding your breath, because you never knew when the coin would flip and all of a sudden, everything that was wrong in the world was her fault. Things got so bad, that a year before the homicide, Janet And Raven briefly separated. By itself, a Marriage On The Rocks did not mean raven was in any way responsible for janets death. Despite police suspicion, many refuse to believe raven could or would kill janet. Including janets own parents. When you heard the police thought raven was a suspect, what did you think . I defended him. You stuck up for him . I did. I couldnt bear the fact that someone who i entrusted my Childs Life with would turn on her like that. I could not go there. Neither could raven and janets friend, misty foxly. Raven could not have killed janet. He loved her. He loved her. He wouldnt have done that. Detectives had an equally difficult time convincing the district attorney, who felt there wasnt ne

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