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Individual in our country who is as great a threat to our democracy as Donald Trump is. Meanwhile, Donald Trump spoke yesterday to the economic club of new York Childcare is childcare. Its something you have to have it. Childcare is childcare. Thats your solution to childcare . The tariffs he wants to put on china are not going to relieve the Childcare Issues. My vision of an Opportunity Economy is one where everyone can compete and have a real chance to succeed the vp was there to unveil a Tax Break Proposal for small businesses. Coupled with less red tape. Ive got to say that is a good idea. The debate is next tuesday. Sometimes we overhyped the debate. I think in this one it might be a little bit more to height yet. Certainly worth the height. Good evening once again. Im Stephanie Ruhle and we are now just 60 days away from the election and only four until the debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. This week both candidates were focused on a top issue for voters, the economy. Harris also picked up a major endorsement from former Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney and today her father, former Vp Cheney said hes going to vote for harris as well. Can you believe that . Just take a moment. Dick cheney, remember cheney . Hes voting for Kamala Harris. With that lets bring in our nightcap because it is friday night. Steve Lisa Meadows here, cnbc senior Economics Reporter. Maya eaglin joins us, nbc digital Recorder And Host of stay tuned on the Snapchat And Weve got the rev here, reverend Al Sharpton Host of msnbcs Politics Nation and president of the national action network. And Pablo Torre joins us, espn analyst, host of the Pablo Torre finds out podcast and an msnbc contributor. But we must say, since the last time we saw pablo he has now been awarded the edward r. Murrow award, one of the highest honors for journalists. Brother to you. I knew you were going to say that. I lost my integrity and paid you to say that, stephanie, thank you. Rev, im definitely turning to you first because youre one of the first people she called when she made it official. Here we are, weve got two months to go. Whats your take on this race . I think its still very close but i think Dick Cheney is a Game Changer in the sense that he will give comfort to a lot of older moderate republicans, that she is not this crazed socialist that Donald Trump is trying to make her out to be. No one in that group and thats a large group of republicans believe that Dick Cheney would be supporting a socialist. I think this is a huge Game Changer today for Kamala Harris. Pablo, we heard this week, i dont even want to say economic proposals from both candidates, because we didnt, but Kamala Harris came out with a proposal for small businesses, making it easier to launch a small business. Less relation, a huge positive, a tax break. Donald trump gave a big presentation on economic policy at the New York economic club and there was no presentation. He was incoherent and he didnt actually offer anything. Had he said i dont think the federal government should be involved in childcare, that would be an answer we could debate. He didnt even do that, yet he still has a whole lot of support from some people in the business community. Whats your take on this . Is not a serious person and its disheartening that it may be takes Dick Cheney to remind us that if you care About an institution as a concept, whether an economic one or the country itself, you want someone who knows what they are doing and even a vague sense so the Business Part of this, steph, as we talked About for months now, people are of course motivated by Self Interest and in this case they still see trump as somebody who is a mobile, who is corruptible in the most literal sense, and thats the advantage that he offers. Now to me, the thing with what business, as your incentive suggests, is that youre playing some kind of game that other people can benefit from, and he just doesnt have your ability. He does not have the ability to articulate that, and shes an aging athlete. I come from sports. Ive seen it happen. Donald trump doesnt have it anymore, and hes rambling, and people are looking at him like is this entertaining. Will kind of but its not substance. Athlete is a tough one to swallow, with the exception of golf. The only time ive ever seen him play anything, there is video from the 80s of him on his Volleyball Court which i do not recommend you google. Whats your thought . I think this has turned into a little bit of a Policy Discussion around the election, rather than any discussion About Donald Trump dropping bombs, saying things we never heard for. [ inaudible ] maybe we shouldnt be and the bidding was as follows. It said Harris Hasnt talked to The Press. Hey, lets spend a moment on that because they suddenly realized The Press was a vital part of our democracy. Havent provided any details. She provided some details. All of a sudden now its kind of ricocheted back on the republicans that from has to provide details, so we are debating some things out there About policies that we werent debating before because we were so involved, either in the Horse Race or something like that. I think this is not a bad place to be, so i can take Donald Trumps tariff proposal, and i can put it into the machine, and i come up with the fact that hes proposing essentially one of the most regressive tax Cuts Tax hikes, right . Im going to have you say this again because it is not a Tax Cut. Walk us through, when you put the tariff you put the tariffs 10 overall, take out the part thats for china, which is 60 tariffs. It would be the biggest Tax Hike in history, the most regressive. He kept saying that these are not taxes, but they are taxes. It just raises the price of the goods. Its not necessarily inflationary in the initial aspects, but what happens is you get this spiral because i put a tariff on your good. You put a tariff on my good and then were off to the races. Remember what happened when trump was president and the terrace with china, and what did that end up doing . Crossing our farmers and we ended up having to give them a huge amount of money and aid. Ill take a second here to express my disappointment with the biden administration for continuing those tariffs. Im on the other side of that for both camps. Trump is in another league with what hes talking About. Kamala harris has been under a huge amount of pressure to provide details, as steve was just saying. We want to see your policies. We want to see your details. Shes had less than two months to do it. With the exception of tariffs, Donald Trump has been running for over two years and we dont have details on anything. Why does that double standard sit . You know i think thats an excellent question, stephanie. The one thing that ive been hearing from voters is this Frustration And Exhaustion with the back and forth, but i will say they are asking and have been really calling on harris to be explicit in some of her speeches. You hear protesters and shes addressing them in different ways depending on the events of that day. But i really think what they are asking her to do is tell them whats going to be different between her time in office and a biden presidency. So those are some of the answers that i think young voters especially, that we are hearing from, stay tuned, are asking and waiting to hear. Rev, here is the thing. People are complaining, say why dont we know her policy. Shes been in office for 3 1 2 years but shes been the vp. If you were the ceo of a company and i was your number two, it would be my job to execute your vision but it wouldnt be my vision, so shouldnt we be giving her some more time to formulate exactly what her new plan is going to be . Absolutely, and i think that its bogus because when you see shes already come with a different capital Gains Tax Raposo Van President biden. Which, by the way, is more moderate and more probusiness despite what republicans would have you think. Its much more moderate, much more probusiness, and it is a big difference then president bidens. So you are talking About her, who has come out with capital gains, who has talked About Child Tax credits and youre talking About Donald Trump, who couldnt even answer a question at the economic club About childcare. He said Childcare Is childcare and he went off. If Joe Biden had made this speech that Donald Trump made, wed be asking for the 25th Amendment to get him out of office. The man is unhinged. I agree, pablo, its an old saw that doesnt work anymore but it is that his head is not right, just something unhinged About him, and i think Dick Cheneys endorsement will blow him totally out of the water. We are grading on a curve. Why . Hold on. We are the media. We created a double standard and how we are covering them, when its our job to set the standard. Why are we doing it . Is it because we keep getting bullied that we are the liberal media . It doesnt make you liberal to call out a liar. It takes you a fact checker. Ill be blunt with you About it. Please do. Donald trumps chosen terrain that he likes to fight on his culture war. That is not a thing youre terribly wellversed in when it comes to policy, when it comes to tariffs, childcare legislation. He is a guy who is five based so hes advocating the idea that policy is even really the point when it comes to how he campaigns and when it comes to who do we need to remind us of this to be the guardrails on our democracy, okay, the cheney family. Ill take all of them, sure, but what About Mike Pence . Expense comes out and says i Cant Vote for the got. Just give me the counterargument, anybody in america, as to why Mike Pence is not a voice we should be looking at and being horrified by. This is just liberal, hes the Vice President. So without belaboring January 6 again, why is Mike Pence not the person that everybody says when it comes to the first sentence we hear About Donald Trump . That to me is just the biggest Blind Spot we have collectively About who is the canary in the whole mine. Its the guy with the effigies that were being Lit Aflame at the capitol building. Does the Team Cheney Endorsement put pressure on the likes of george w. Bush . I think it should and i think a lot of people will be asking that question but let me go back to the point that he made, and that is that when you have a Dick Cheney who ive marched on more than probably anybody, when you have Dick Cheney endorsing you guys got along great. I remember. The Culture Wars just took a real shot in the head for Donald Trump, because No One believes that Dick Cheney would be on the side of the but reverend, theyve been so effective that just canceling out anybody who opposes them, no matter what status they previously had. They become either a rino or whatever it is they call it. Theyre going to run out of that. You think so . You cant just name call all the way through. Im no fan of Dick Cheney. I wouldnt go hunting with him but you are dealing with the fact that all of these guys, you cannot ive been fishing some of the places he was fishing when he was at his undisclosed locations. You are saying there is going to be hard confessions. You are saying there is a mccarthy moment when you go to this point of at long last, senator, you have the decency. Im sorry to put you in a quote there but you get to the point where you cannot accuse the army anymore of being communist. And you look at the fact that look at him on the road. Trump is not throwing the crowds he used to draw. The passion is not there anymore and hes embarrassing people every time he comes out, which is why he has not come out often. Theyre talking About Kamala Harris ought to be doing interviews. The a to be doing more rallies. The guy was home labor day weekend, the kickoff of the serious part of the campaign. He made no appearances. Nobody notices that. Steve, you know this. Yesterday when he spoke at the New York economic club, that was not a low information voter venue, okay . That is all Wall Street Investment professionals in that audience and the fact that they sat through that and said nothing, or clapped, is humiliating, should be humiliating to each and every one of them. If i could get a list of the attendees, i would be standing at their door today. Right now i want to know howard levin, one of the most successful Wall Street guys, who was a proud to say hes endorsing Donald Trump, hes now part of his investment team. How is he answering for what trump said yesterday . How is John Paulson answering for it . For those guys, to the revs point, its humiliating every time trump opens his mouth. They just have to hide and go, i just want to be sure im never getting a Wealth Tax and the corporate Tax Cut is getting extended but its shameful that the guy answers the Childcare Question with Childcare Is childcare, marco rubio, ivanka. There wasnt even a verb in his sentence. Im not going to defend Donald Trump but what i could defend is the notion that there are concerns on that side there About the issue of how far do they go in terms of taxing business, About how far they go in terms of their regulatory structure against does this. They have not been in favor. Theyve worked against a lot of the mergers and acquisitions out there. They hate lenahan. They dont like lenahan. There is a long list of reasons why you would not support Kamala Harris on a policy basis. But youre positing something else. Four people who are running now, j. D. Vance, harris, Donald Trump and tim walz, of the four, you know who is the biggest fan of Lena Con . J. D. Vance. Im speechless. What i will say is this when it comes to policy, the republicans have always been deficient in their bench. They dont have reverend, you shouldve been an Economics Reporter during the perennial Infrastructure Week of the trump presidency. You get your notebook out. Youre ready to go. Nothing. Every week was the same one. There is no policy there. Whats interesting from the Harris Point of view is democrats do policy like they ma