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In court amid revelations the father gave his 14yearold son an Ar15style Rifle after both had been questioned about alleged threats the boy made to carry out a school shooting. The teenage suspect was in the same courtroom, shackled and tried as an adult. Its now a campaign issue. J. D. Vance on the defense after the Harris Campaign pounced on him saying he wishes School Shootings were not a fact of life. I dont like that this is a fact of life. If you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. We have to bolster security at our schools so that a person who walks through the front door good day, everyone. Im Andrea Mitchell in washington with Donald Trump speaking in new York City just at this hour. He has been lashing out at his multiple legal cases and at the judge overseeing them and at the Justice Department. The former president claiming again that he has no idea who e. Jean carroll is. The writer who won her sexual Assault And Defamation cases. Earlier, the former president facing a skeptical Threejudge Panel as he appeared before a court of appeals trying to delay his payout of 5 Million in damages to carroll. Her attorney pointing out in court that mr. Trump had the opportunity to defend himself on The Stand in the first trial but did not. He also had the chance to put witnesses on The Stand, but chose not to. Joining me now, Lisa Rubin who was inside the courtHouse Today. Busy day in the courthouse. Vaughn hillyard in North Carolina ahead of Donald Trumps event there. Vaughn you have been listening to former President Trump as he continues to speak at Trump Tower in new york. Characterize what he has been saying. Reporter was that to me . Yes, vaughn. Reporter sorry about that. Im listening in real time. I was distracted by Donald Trump himself. One of his attorneys in this appeal here in front of the Appeals Court trying to get the decision that was made in 2023, that was made by a jury, we should repeat, made by a jury that found Donald Trump to have sexually abused e. Jean carroll. This was going before the Appeals Court. Donald trump for the better part of the last 30 minutes now has been essentially doing exactly what led to the Defamation Liability found against him earlier this year by a separate jury in which he was penalized for 83 million. He is continuing here at Trump Tower right now where this Press Conference is taking place, he is saying that he did not know e. Jean carroll, he never met her. Theres a photo of them together. He is saying that he regrets not going and testifying before that jury in early 2023 and blaming his attorney for telling him it was beneath the office of the presidency. Of course, he was the expresident at the time. He should not go and testify before that jury to his own defense. That jury found him guilt or i should say liable of Sexual Abuse and defamation. We heard you can see in the shot, you see he is flanked. There were other attorneys involved in the cases, including the hush money payment scheme. This is a moment that was actually quite striking just a few moments before we came on air is when he very specifically said that he was not very happy, were his words, with his legal Defense Team here. He is looking at a potential sentencing on September 18th. We are waiting to hear from the judge in Lower Manhattan on whether that sentencing is going to move forward on September 18th or whether at Donald Trumps request he is going to postpone it until after the election. What you hear right now is Donald Trump let me be very clear. Its a lot to take in. Frankly, he was bringing up other allegations other women made of Sexual Harassment and of Abuse Dating back years ago, including a woman who alleged they were on a plane and that he moved into her seat and began making out with her against her will. This is stuff that Donald Trump is bringing up himself. They are touting this as a Press Conference, but he is not saying all of this in response to any actual questions. Donald trump is clearly just getting a lot of thoughts off of his chest after leaving that courthouse there in this attempted appeal of the e. Jean Carroll Decision here. One other note here. Then i will let lisa and you break it down. He also started off at the very beginning of this Press Conference or remarks by noting that Doj Indictment handed down against the two russians who have been accused by the Justice Department of funneling millions of dollars to a Media Company in tennessee, a right wing Media Company, including providing hefty salaries to trumpaligned right wing provocateurs. In order to push russian propaganda. He made mention of that indictment. Instead of saying what we heard from others, who have u. S. National security in their interest, you heard him push it aside and saying that this is another effort for the russia, russia, russia effort, which for the last eight years he has come back to suggesting that in the 2016 campaign there was undue effort by the department of justice to tie him directly to efforts of russian Propaganda And Election interference. There was a lot to that. There was, in fact, conversations that took place between paul manafort, roger stone, who was having conversations with individuals with russian ties who ultimately hacked into the dnc email system. John podestas emails. Every time Donald Trump says it was a hoax, thats not entirely accurate. Of course, there is no evidence that Donald Trump himself ever colluded with the russians. Yet, he did use the emails to further his campaign in 2016. Of course, that was at a time in which the u. S. National Security Apparatus had publicly said in early october that they had good reason to believe that it was the russians that hocked into the emails and were releasing the wikileaks. I say that because at the top of the remarks, Donald Trump pushed aside this recent indictment. We heard him over the last course of the summer here continue to lay a foundation to claim that the federal government and the Justice Department and the state prosecutors, the judges, essentially, they are all in it to lay claim to the american electorate before people cast their vote, that this election is unfair, rigged and that theres undue interference, not on the part of the russians, per se, but on the part of democratic prosecutors and department of justice. Its a lot to unpack. Thank you so much for that. Lisa rubin, lets talk about what happened in court today. What was probably triggering a lot of this outburst . Reporter its interesting, because we are so used to Donald Trump sort of free associating. Sometimes even rambling in his public appearances. Vaughn made note of the fact that he was talking today at that Press Conference about a woman who accused him of assault on an airplane in the 1970s. Actually, it ties directly back to the appeal of the e. Jean Carroll Verdict that i attended this morning. In particular, Donald Trump and his lawyers contesting three pieces of evidence that they say the jury relied on and were improperly admitted by the Trial Judge of the southern district of new york. Those three pieces of Evidence Start with the testimony of jessica leads. She sat next to Donald Trump on an airplane in the 1970s, where she alleged that Donald Trump, after exchanging pleasantries, assaulted her sexually against her wishes. Much of the Argument Today was taken up by a discussion about whether her testimony was improperly admitted under a rule of federal evidence that allows prior evidence of Sexual Assault to come in under particular circumstances. Those circumstances entail conduct that meets the definition of federal crimes. There was a lot of debate and back and forth about whether what happened with her constituted a federal crime at the time that she alleged it took place in 1970. At the very end, e. Jean carrolls lawyer was asked, even if we get rid of this evidence that the former president is contesting, the testimony of another accuser who says she was assaulted by the former president at maralago and the Access Hollywood Tape, if we got rid of that, would you still have enough to win . Yes, but we still maintain the Access Hollywood Tape was appropriately admitted, not to show that Donald Trump had a propensity to commit Sexual Assaults of the nature he committed against miss carroll but it was a confession that this is what he routinely did. That controversial airport alleged incident came up in 2016 in the immediate aftermath of the Access Hollywood Tape. That was one of the issues that came up in that Election Cycle as well. As well as, of course, later in the court case. Let me bring in paul butler, former prosecutor. Theres another issue thats clearly also on the former president s mind today, which is the question of Judge Merchant and whether he will succeed in what his Defense Lawyers want is a delay in the september sentencing. I cant imagine a defendant in any other criminal case asking the judge to postpone his sentencing after being convicted by a jury that request for the postponement is because the defendant has a busy time Coming Up at work. Thats essentially what trump is asking. Any other defendant making this request would be laughed out of court. The Day Job of a criminal defendant has no bearing on his proceeding as Judge Chutkan made clear. Whatever the judge decides is going to be criticized. The reality is Donald Trump is the Gop Candidate for president. The election is a few weeks away. If the judge does proceed to sentencing on september 17th, when its scheduled it could have a huge reverberation in the election. Is that something the judge should take into account . I think its going to be a tough decision for this judge. Lisa rubin, do you want to weigh in on that . Reporter yeah. In some cases, we are talking about putting the cart before the horse. In addition to scheduling that sentencing for September 18th, Judge Merchant has another Decision Date Coming Up. Thats September 16th when he is scheduled to decide trumps motion to set aside the verdict in that new york hush Money Case on the grounds that some of the evidence in that case was evidence of his official acts while president and, therefore, under the supreme Courts President ial immunity decision should never have been admitted in the first place. Judge merchant facing a tough decision. That will come before whether he even decides whether that is warranted. He told the parties to reserve September 18th for sentencing or other proceedings as appropriate. We may get a glimmer of what he is going to decide on the 16th Today through his decision on whether to hold a sentencing. The other thing i would add is its not the last word. I and others have talked on our air about the efforts by Donald Trumps attorneys not only to postpone the sentencing by asking Judge Merchant but by filing a notice of removal. The reason they have done that, particularly a year after doing so for the first time, is because theres a sentence in the federal statute that says, while a federal notice of removal is pending, you cant proceed to a judgment of conviction in a state criminal case. A judgment of conviction is what a sentencing is. That notice of removal is yet another effort by Donald Trumps lawyers in a different forum, this being a Federal Court, not a state court, to postpone the sentencing. Even if Judge Merchant decides he is going to proceed with that sentencing, Donald Trump still has an application to the second Circuit Court of appeals behind me to stay that notice of removal and keep stay an order denying his ability to file a notice of removal and keeps his hopes alive that a Federal Court will accept jurisdiction, yank it away from Judge Merchant and end his ability to sentence him to begin with. That had been denied, i know. Of course, the issues of what is immunity, whats official, is what was heard this week by Judge Chutkan just yesterday in the January 6th case, the attempt to overturn the election. Vaughn, before you went to North Carolina, you were at the economic club in new york yesterday. Before i let you go, lets play what he said in answer to a straightforward question about what his policies would be on providing childcare, a big issue for a lot of americans, by one of the moderators, one of the questioners at the Economic Club Of New York before a big new York Audience of bankers, Wall Street executives and the like. Lets listen. Childcare is childcare. You have to have it in this country. When you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that im talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that theyre not used to, but they will get used to it very quickly. Its not going to stop them from doing business with us. They will have a substantial tax when they send product into our country. As much as Childcare Is talked about as being expensive, relatively speaking, its not compared to the numbers we will take in. Vaughn, briefly, he never answered what his policy would be on childcare. Then he just said he would pay for it by the tariffs that he proposes on other countries which are, according to most economists, really taxes on american consumers, something he has not acknowledged. Theres been criticism of his lack of specifics in that answer. Reporter right. The interesting part is that Question And Answer came directly after another question from another member of the economic club who asked him about, how do the numbers work . Understanding the united states went further into the deficit during the trump administration, the first four years there, and Donald Trumps response to how he would pay for some of his proposals while keeping the 2017 Tax Cuts from sunsetting and extending them and his response to that man, that member was that the tariffs were going to be able to cover the loss of revenue. Then when he was asked about childcare, what his policy was, to note his own Vice President ial running made, j. D. Vance, floated his own policy of a 5,000 Childcare Tax Credit regardless of income, which Ar15style Rifle<\/a> after both had been questioned about alleged threats the boy made to carry out a school shooting. The teenage suspect was in the same courtroom, shackled and tried as an adult. Its now a campaign issue. J. D. Vance on the defense after the Harris Campaign<\/a> pounced on him saying he wishes School Shootings<\/a> were not a fact of life. I dont like that this is a fact of life. If you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. We have to bolster security at our schools so that a person who walks through the front door good day, everyone. Im Andrea Mitchell<\/a> in washington with Donald Trump<\/a> speaking in new York City<\/a> just at this hour. He has been lashing out at his multiple legal cases and at the judge overseeing them and at the Justice Department<\/a>. The former president claiming again that he has no idea who e. Jean carroll is. The writer who won her sexual Assault And Defamation<\/a> cases. Earlier, the former president facing a skeptical Threejudge Panel<\/a> as he appeared before a court of appeals trying to delay his payout of 5 Million<\/a> in damages to carroll. Her attorney pointing out in court that mr. Trump had the opportunity to defend himself on The Stand<\/a> in the first trial but did not. He also had the chance to put witnesses on The Stand<\/a>, but chose not to. Joining me now, Lisa Rubin<\/a> who was inside the courtHouse Today<\/a>. Busy day in the courthouse. Vaughn hillyard in North Carolina<\/a> ahead of Donald Trump<\/a>s event there. Vaughn you have been listening to former President Trump<\/a> as he continues to speak at Trump Tower<\/a> in new york. Characterize what he has been saying. Reporter was that to me . Yes, vaughn. Reporter sorry about that. Im listening in real time. I was distracted by Donald Trump<\/a> himself. One of his attorneys in this appeal here in front of the Appeals Court<\/a> trying to get the decision that was made in 2023, that was made by a jury, we should repeat, made by a jury that found Donald Trump<\/a> to have sexually abused e. Jean carroll. This was going before the Appeals Court<\/a>. Donald trump for the better part of the last 30 minutes now has been essentially doing exactly what led to the Defamation Liability<\/a> found against him earlier this year by a separate jury in which he was penalized for 83 million. He is continuing here at Trump Tower<\/a> right now where this Press Conference<\/a> is taking place, he is saying that he did not know e. Jean carroll, he never met her. Theres a photo of them together. He is saying that he regrets not going and testifying before that jury in early 2023 and blaming his attorney for telling him it was beneath the office of the presidency. Of course, he was the expresident at the time. He should not go and testify before that jury to his own defense. That jury found him guilt or i should say liable of Sexual Abuse<\/a> and defamation. We heard you can see in the shot, you see he is flanked. There were other attorneys involved in the cases, including the hush money payment scheme. This is a moment that was actually quite striking just a few moments before we came on air is when he very specifically said that he was not very happy, were his words, with his legal Defense Team<\/a> here. He is looking at a potential sentencing on September 18th<\/a>. We are waiting to hear from the judge in Lower Manhattan<\/a> on whether that sentencing is going to move forward on September 18th<\/a> or whether at Donald Trump<\/a>s request he is going to postpone it until after the election. What you hear right now is Donald Trump<\/a> let me be very clear. Its a lot to take in. Frankly, he was bringing up other allegations other women made of Sexual Harassment<\/a> and of Abuse Dating<\/a> back years ago, including a woman who alleged they were on a plane and that he moved into her seat and began making out with her against her will. This is stuff that Donald Trump<\/a> is bringing up himself. They are touting this as a Press Conference<\/a>, but he is not saying all of this in response to any actual questions. Donald trump is clearly just getting a lot of thoughts off of his chest after leaving that courthouse there in this attempted appeal of the e. Jean Carroll Decision<\/a> here. One other note here. Then i will let lisa and you break it down. He also started off at the very beginning of this Press Conference<\/a> or remarks by noting that Doj Indictment<\/a> handed down against the two russians who have been accused by the Justice Department<\/a> of funneling millions of dollars to a Media Company<\/a> in tennessee, a right wing Media Company<\/a>, including providing hefty salaries to trumpaligned right wing provocateurs. In order to push russian propaganda. He made mention of that indictment. Instead of saying what we heard from others, who have u. S. National security in their interest, you heard him push it aside and saying that this is another effort for the russia, russia, russia effort, which for the last eight years he has come back to suggesting that in the 2016 campaign there was undue effort by the department of justice to tie him directly to efforts of russian Propaganda And Election<\/a> interference. There was a lot to that. There was, in fact, conversations that took place between paul manafort, roger stone, who was having conversations with individuals with russian ties who ultimately hacked into the dnc email system. John podestas emails. Every time Donald Trump<\/a> says it was a hoax, thats not entirely accurate. Of course, there is no evidence that Donald Trump<\/a> himself ever colluded with the russians. Yet, he did use the emails to further his campaign in 2016. Of course, that was at a time in which the u. S. National Security Apparatus<\/a> had publicly said in early october that they had good reason to believe that it was the russians that hocked into the emails and were releasing the wikileaks. I say that because at the top of the remarks, Donald Trump<\/a> pushed aside this recent indictment. We heard him over the last course of the summer here continue to lay a foundation to claim that the federal government and the Justice Department<\/a> and the state prosecutors, the judges, essentially, they are all in it to lay claim to the american electorate before people cast their vote, that this election is unfair, rigged and that theres undue interference, not on the part of the russians, per se, but on the part of democratic prosecutors and department of justice. Its a lot to unpack. Thank you so much for that. Lisa rubin, lets talk about what happened in court today. What was probably triggering a lot of this outburst . Reporter its interesting, because we are so used to Donald Trump<\/a> sort of free associating. Sometimes even rambling in his public appearances. Vaughn made note of the fact that he was talking today at that Press Conference<\/a> about a woman who accused him of assault on an airplane in the 1970s. Actually, it ties directly back to the appeal of the e. Jean Carroll Verdict<\/a> that i attended this morning. In particular, Donald Trump<\/a> and his lawyers contesting three pieces of evidence that they say the jury relied on and were improperly admitted by the Trial Judge<\/a> of the southern district of new york. Those three pieces of Evidence Start<\/a> with the testimony of jessica leads. She sat next to Donald Trump<\/a> on an airplane in the 1970s, where she alleged that Donald Trump<\/a>, after exchanging pleasantries, assaulted her sexually against her wishes. Much of the Argument Today<\/a> was taken up by a discussion about whether her testimony was improperly admitted under a rule of federal evidence that allows prior evidence of Sexual Assault<\/a> to come in under particular circumstances. Those circumstances entail conduct that meets the definition of federal crimes. There was a lot of debate and back and forth about whether what happened with her constituted a federal crime at the time that she alleged it took place in 1970. At the very end, e. Jean carrolls lawyer was asked, even if we get rid of this evidence that the former president is contesting, the testimony of another accuser who says she was assaulted by the former president at maralago and the Access Hollywood Tape<\/a>, if we got rid of that, would you still have enough to win . Yes, but we still maintain the Access Hollywood Tape<\/a> was appropriately admitted, not to show that Donald Trump<\/a> had a propensity to commit Sexual Assault<\/a>s of the nature he committed against miss carroll but it was a confession that this is what he routinely did. That controversial airport alleged incident came up in 2016 in the immediate aftermath of the Access Hollywood Tape<\/a>. That was one of the issues that came up in that Election Cycle<\/a> as well. As well as, of course, later in the court case. Let me bring in paul butler, former prosecutor. Theres another issue thats clearly also on the former president s mind today, which is the question of Judge Merchant<\/a> and whether he will succeed in what his Defense Lawyers<\/a> want is a delay in the september sentencing. I cant imagine a defendant in any other criminal case asking the judge to postpone his sentencing after being convicted by a jury that request for the postponement is because the defendant has a busy time Coming Up<\/a> at work. Thats essentially what trump is asking. Any other defendant making this request would be laughed out of court. The Day Job<\/a> of a criminal defendant has no bearing on his proceeding as Judge Chutkan<\/a> made clear. Whatever the judge decides is going to be criticized. The reality is Donald Trump<\/a> is the Gop Candidate<\/a> for president. The election is a few weeks away. If the judge does proceed to sentencing on september 17th, when its scheduled it could have a huge reverberation in the election. Is that something the judge should take into account . I think its going to be a tough decision for this judge. Lisa rubin, do you want to weigh in on that . Reporter yeah. In some cases, we are talking about putting the cart before the horse. In addition to scheduling that sentencing for September 18th<\/a>, Judge Merchant<\/a> has another Decision Date<\/a> Coming Up<\/a>. Thats September 16th<\/a> when he is scheduled to decide trumps motion to set aside the verdict in that new york hush Money Case<\/a> on the grounds that some of the evidence in that case was evidence of his official acts while president and, therefore, under the supreme Courts President<\/a> ial immunity decision should never have been admitted in the first place. Judge merchant facing a tough decision. That will come before whether he even decides whether that is warranted. He told the parties to reserve September 18th<\/a> for sentencing or other proceedings as appropriate. We may get a glimmer of what he is going to decide on the 16th Today<\/a> through his decision on whether to hold a sentencing. The other thing i would add is its not the last word. I and others have talked on our air about the efforts by Donald Trump<\/a>s attorneys not only to postpone the sentencing by asking Judge Merchant<\/a> but by filing a notice of removal. The reason they have done that, particularly a year after doing so for the first time, is because theres a sentence in the federal statute that says, while a federal notice of removal is pending, you cant proceed to a judgment of conviction in a state criminal case. A judgment of conviction is what a sentencing is. That notice of removal is yet another effort by Donald Trump<\/a>s lawyers in a different forum, this being a Federal Court<\/a>, not a state court, to postpone the sentencing. Even if Judge Merchant<\/a> decides he is going to proceed with that sentencing, Donald Trump<\/a> still has an application to the second Circuit Court<\/a> of appeals behind me to stay that notice of removal and keep stay an order denying his ability to file a notice of removal and keeps his hopes alive that a Federal Court<\/a> will accept jurisdiction, yank it away from Judge Merchant<\/a> and end his ability to sentence him to begin with. That had been denied, i know. Of course, the issues of what is immunity, whats official, is what was heard this week by Judge Chutkan<\/a> just yesterday in the January 6th<\/a> case, the attempt to overturn the election. Vaughn, before you went to North Carolina<\/a>, you were at the economic club in new york yesterday. Before i let you go, lets play what he said in answer to a straightforward question about what his policies would be on providing childcare, a big issue for a lot of americans, by one of the moderators, one of the questioners at the Economic Club Of New York<\/a> before a big new York Audience<\/a> of bankers, Wall Street<\/a> executives and the like. Lets listen. Childcare is childcare. You have to have it in this country. When you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that im talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that theyre not used to, but they will get used to it very quickly. Its not going to stop them from doing business with us. They will have a substantial tax when they send product into our country. As much as Childcare Is<\/a> talked about as being expensive, relatively speaking, its not compared to the numbers we will take in. Vaughn, briefly, he never answered what his policy would be on childcare. Then he just said he would pay for it by the tariffs that he proposes on other countries which are, according to most economists, really taxes on american consumers, something he has not acknowledged. Theres been criticism of his lack of specifics in that answer. Reporter right. The interesting part is that Question And Answer<\/a> came directly after another question from another member of the economic club who asked him about, how do the numbers work . Understanding the united states went further into the deficit during the trump administration, the first four years there, and Donald Trump<\/a>s response to how he would pay for some of his proposals while keeping the 2017 Tax Cuts<\/a> from sunsetting and extending them and his response to that man, that member was that the tariffs were going to be able to cover the loss of revenue. Then when he was asked about childcare, what his policy was, to note his own Vice President<\/a> ial running made, j. D. Vance, floated his own policy of a 5,000 Childcare Tax Credit<\/a> regardless of income, which Donald Trump<\/a> did not repeat and has not signed on to himself, but instead what you heard was i think that it would be fair and objective to say either was a clear lack of understanding of Childcare Policy<\/a> in america and discussions over potential proposals that could help american families across the country, or it was an intentional obfuscation over an issue that Kamala Harris<\/a>, his democratic rival, is going to be quick and keen to draw the contrast on. I think you heard from him there, it was a little bit of incoherence at best, i would say. The debate is only four days away. Lisa rubin, vaughn hillyard, paul butler, thanks to all of you for starting us off. Still to come, President Biden<\/a> is about to leave the White House<\/a> for Andrea Mitchell<\/a> reports michigan to shore up support. First, a live report from georgia. The Teen Gunman<\/a> who killed four people allegedly two teachers and to students at his High School<\/a> appears in court for first time. Thats next when Andrea Mitchell<\/a> reports is back in just 90 seconds. You are watching msnbc. You founded your Kayak Company<\/a> because you love the ocean not spreadsheets. You need to hire. I need indeed. Indeed you do. Indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. Visit indeed. Com hire the 14yearold charged with murder fo allegedly shooting two teachers and two students appeared in court today. His father appearing Short<\/a>ly afterwards in the same courtroom, just hours after being arrested overnight on two charges of second Degree Murder<\/a>. Law enforcement says the father bought his son an Arstyle Rifle<\/a> after both were interviewed by the fbi about his sons alleged threats online to carry out a school shooting. The charges are even more severe than what the parents of Ethan Crumley<\/a> faced. Tell us about the charges filed against the father. Reporter thats right. Colt Grays Father<\/a> being arrested. He faces four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second Degree Murder<\/a> and eight counts of cruelty to children. The judge told him what his potential punishments could be for each of those crimes. Each count carries around ten years of imprisonment. Thats a total of 180 years of imprisonment. We asked the Georgia Bureau<\/a> of Investigations Director<\/a> last night when he gave us the briefing what evidence he had to put these charges against the father of Colt Gray<\/a>. He wouldnt give us too many details. At the heart of the matter, which you mentioned, is how Colt Gray<\/a> got that Arstyle Rifle<\/a> that we were told by authorities was used in this shooting that took place at apalachee High School<\/a>. Two senior Law Enforcement<\/a> officials saying his father gifted that to him after fbi directed Jackson County<\/a> sheriffs deputies to interview Colin And Colt<\/a> Great One<\/a> year ago after they were anonymously tipped off that colt was trying to carry out a shooting like we saw here. Thats something that really infuriates people that he was on the radar of federal and local Law Enforcement<\/a> agencies as recently as a year ago. Thank you so very much. This is just a terrible case. Its causing big waves on the campaign trail. Thank you. J. D. Vance was asked what he would do to prevent more School Shootings<\/a> like The One<\/a> in georgia. Look, i dont like this. I dont like to admit this. I dont like this is a fact of life. If you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize our schools are soft targets. We have got to bolster security at our schools. After the Associated Press<\/a> tweeted the fact of life comment, Harris And Walz<\/a> jumped on it. Talk to me about this, how the Harriswalz Campaign<\/a> reacted so quickly to the Ap Tweet<\/a> about j. D. Vances comments, but that initial Ap Tweet<\/a>, which was later corrected, took it out of context. He was talking about Social Security<\/a> versus common Sense Gun<\/a> laws and what the democrats are pushing for. But he was also saying that he lamented School Shootings<\/a> were now a fact of life. Lets give it the context and why it has become an issue. Reporter is so often the case, phrases can drive political reactions and responses among voters and sometimes among candidates. Certainly for Harris And Walz<\/a>, the position of School Shootings<\/a> is one that reflects their broader policy that they believe that real Policy Changes<\/a> can take place from things as anticipated as trying to seek a ban on assault weapons, but also other kinds of changes in culture and policy. They arent backing away from what they said. Although, you are giving a more full context for what it is j. D. Vance, the senator from ohio and the running made for Donald Trump<\/a> talked about. As you said, more lamenting it has become a fact of life, that School Shootings<\/a> are a part of modern American Culture<\/a> as much as so many people say they must stop. For Harris And Walz<\/a>, especially walz who is comfortable engaging in sport shooting, that theres a way to protect students and schools, obviously a former teacher as well, and also secure the Second Amendment<\/a> right. This is very much falling into the kind of atmosphere where even initial comments can get spun in certain directions and then can be more fully litigated as the campaigns go. They are not backing away from their distinct views that separate them from the trumpvance campaign. First of all, i want to tell our audience that Donald Trump<\/a> completed what he was saying at Trump Tower<\/a>. He was talking im not exactly sure when he started, but for quite a long time, maybe 45 minutes. He then left, walked off without taking any questions. It was billed as a News Conference<\/a> when he took questions, we were going to bring you highlights, bring it to you live. He never stopped a series of false statements, frankly, about his legal cases and accusations against false accusations against Kamala Harris<\/a> and members of the top Justice Department<\/a> officials. In any case, President Biden<\/a> today is going to be back on the campaign in michigan this afternoon, signing an Executive Standard<\/a> on labor standards. Important in that state. Talk to me about that and the fact he is in a battleground state. The Harris Campaign<\/a> is focused on how they are going to use President Biden<\/a>. How are they navigating that . Thanks. The trump Press Conference<\/a> that wasnt is ptsd for all of us who lived through those four years. I cant tell you how many of those 45minute rants i remember listening to. Without getting questions, which happened a lot. As for biden, i think the Harris Campaign<\/a>, which is used to be the biden campaign, they are full of the same people, they want to use President Biden<\/a>. But they are going to do it carefully and in a limited way. You are not going to see a lot of campaigning of the two of them together. Thats awkward, as harris tries to develop her own political identity Out Of The Shadow<\/a> of the president. You wont see a lot of that. You are not probably going to see, according to officials in the White House<\/a> and the campaign, a big presence from the president in campaign ads. Thats largely Kamala Harris<\/a>. You will see him go to places like michigan, like pennsylvania, especially western pennsylvania, like wisconsin, the Battleground States<\/a> where there are communities of people that really still are fond of him. It wasnt so much that people democrats thought that they didnt like Joe Biden<\/a> anymore. It was that they were worried that Joe Biden<\/a> Couldnt Win<\/a> and he was too old and essentially too feeble to make the case that they thought needed to be made for the administration. The Harris Campaign<\/a> thinks, lets put him in places that union halls, White Working Class Voters<\/a> who have long had a warm spot in their hearts for him, lets put him there, generate headlines, especially in local newspapers. You might see targeted Radio Ads<\/a> with the president carefully done to target specific groups. They also want him to be president. They think the more he is the more people see him doing things as president , its a reminder of the broad agenda that they still support. This election is going to come down to the Battleground States<\/a>, obviously, pennsylvania, obviously, but the debate we cant overstate the importance. This could be the only matchup. We know what happened last time. Kamala harris has debated in State Races<\/a> and also, of course, the vp race. What do we expect . I saw a really good point made this morning on Social Media<\/a>, which there are not a lot of good points made on Social Media<\/a>, but there was one. This will be Donald Trump<\/a>s seventh general Election President<\/a> ial debate. Which i do think look you know this. The first day you anchored you were probably more nervous than today. You get better at these things. You build the muscle. We know what we will get with trump. He has one setting, whether its a Press Conference<\/a> today or in the debate. I think its more interesting to see how Kamala Harris<\/a> reacts. She has done this before. Shes been in a vp debate. Shes never been on this stage. Only one debate currently on the schedule. We dont know if there will be more. The stakes with high. Shes the most unknown known person in the country. Most people know shes Vice President<\/a> of the united states. Ask them to tell you one or two other things about her, particularly among swing voters, they might struggle. This will be the last two months are a battle to define her. Donald trump is defined. People dont like him. People dont know necessarily how they feel about her. I think this debate is really critical. Is it Donald Trump<\/a>s definition of Kamala Harris<\/a> that People Glom<\/a> on to or is it Kamala Harris<\/a> definition . We saw a different Donald Trump<\/a> in the first debate, because he was very controlled. He let Joe Biden<\/a> unravel, arguably. He kept returning to immigration. No matter what he was asked, he answered about immigration. He stuck to his best issues. Its true. You are right. The thing i would say about that is, even trump, who i think is very selffocused, could see within the first tenish minutes that it was not going well for Joe Biden<\/a> and it didnt appear to be getting better. To his credit, trumps credit, he got out of the way, which he struggles to do. He stepped a little out of the spotlight. I dont expect that. Kamala harris is not whatever you think of the performance shes going to give, she wont give a performance where she wont know what to say. Shes been trying to get under his skin, starting with the word weird. Its working. He is fixated on that. Thank you. On tuesday, join us for live special coverage of the first president ial debate between Kamala Harris<\/a> and Donald Trump<\/a>. Live from philadelphia, all day long, we will be there right here on msnbc. Coming up, new numbers out today Show Hiring<\/a> for new jobs is slowing down. The president s top economic advisor joining us next. Andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. Nexium 24hr prevents Heartburn Acid<\/a> for twice as long as pepcid. Get Allday And Allnight<\/a> Heartburn Acid<\/a> prevention with just one pill a day. Choose acid prevention. Choose nexium. 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The Bureau Of Labor Statistics<\/a> reporting they added 142,000 jobs. Wage growth came in stronger than anticipated with hourly earnings rising. 4 . The report comes at a critical time for Federal Reserve<\/a> officials who are expected to meet in a few weeks to talk about key interest rates. Markets are down in response to the weak Jobs Report<\/a> and selloffs in the tech sector. Joining me now to respond to this, jared bernstein, chair of the white House Council<\/a> of economic advisors. In terms of this Jobs Report<\/a>, lower than expected jobs numbers. Is this cooling down . Markets were reacting earlier. Is this worrying . Is it possible the fed went too long in keeping rates high . I think 142,000 jobs that we got in august, thats strong enough to keep the Unemployment Rate<\/a> from going up. The Unemployment Rate<\/a> ticked down from 4. 3 to 4. 2. Thats a slower pace of Job Gains<\/a> than we saw. But we were sustaining a Breakneck Pace<\/a> we knew was going to slow down. The question here is, are we generating enough jobs to give people ample opportunities in the Labor Market<\/a> to keep the Unemployment Rate<\/a> from going up and to especially maintain the solid wage gains you mentioned . With wages up 4 on a year over year basis, thats well ahead of inflation, last seen at below 3 . Jobs, wages up, Unemployment And Inflation<\/a> is down. Thats the direction of travel. Its the right one. President trump was responding today and citing some figures that i didnt quite understand. I dont know where he is getting these figures. He was blaming Job Losses<\/a> on foreignborn workers. Could you put that in any kind of context . Probably not. There havent been Job Losses<\/a>. We have had Job Gains<\/a>. We have had Job Gains<\/a>. What about the contrast between american foreignborn i dont know what he means. They can be american citizens as well. We are familiar with this argument. Its certainly not supported by the data, anything like the idea that all the jobs are going to one group or another. Probably the simplest way to look at that is to look at the Unemployment Rate<\/a> for nativeborn workers and those born in other countries. Thats folks naturalized and other groups. Its a Catchall Category<\/a> that he uses inaccurately. Both of those Unemployment Rate<\/a>s are near record lows. We have a Job Market<\/a> that is providing and has been ever since this president got here just a strong opportunity for all comers. About 16 Million<\/a> jobs since this president got here. 1. 6 million, if you combine construction and manufacturing, and thats very closely related to the legislative measures that this president and Vice President<\/a> got over the Goal Line<\/a> to build up domestic production in semiconductors, in clean energy and so on. Nothing he has to say on this front tracks the numbers as they exist. Thank you, sir. My pleasure. Dont forget, tuesday join the team for special Coverage And Analysis<\/a> of Vice President<\/a> harris and former President Trump<\/a>s first president ial debate hosted by abc news. We will be broadcasting live from philadelphia as well. It starts at 7 00 p. M. Eastern tuesday right here on msnbc. Coming up, the latest on the gaza ceasefire deal, or lack of one, as hamas turns up the pressure on israel to accept the current u. S. Brokered agreement. Jonathan Deckle Chen<\/a> joining me on how his family is coing while his son is in captivity. You are watching Andrea Mitchell<\/a> reports on msnbc. The u. S. And israel are at loggerheads over the status of Ceasefire And Hostage<\/a> release talks. Secretary of State Blinken<\/a> in the Dominican Republic<\/a> saying an agreement is 90 there, but israels prime Minister Netanyahu<\/a> insisting those estimates are inaccurate, adding theres no deal in the making. No deal in the making, a quote. The white House Today<\/a> confirming the death of a 26yearold american turkish woman, a u. S. Citizen, during a protest in the West Bank<\/a>. The administration says its disturbed by her tragic death. The White House<\/a> is requesting an official investigation from israel. Moments ago, Secretary Blinken<\/a> cautioned to wait until those facts are determined when asked whether he would take action against israel for this, against the Israeli Army<\/a>. Most important thing to do is to gather the facts. Thats exactly what we are in the process of doing. We are intensely focused on getting those facts. Any actions we take are driven by the facts. First things first, lets find out exactly what happened. He also gave his condolences to the family. Joining me now is former Deputy Secretary<\/a> of state, ambassador Wendy Sherman<\/a> and jonathan Deckle Chen<\/a>, father of a hostage. Welcome to both of you. Wendy, lets start with breaking news. Turkey says this 26yearold woman was shot by the israeli defense force, or israeli security forces. Two other americans have been killed in the West Bank<\/a>. This is not the first. We dont know who did it. Theres been a lot of shooting on all sides. The settlers are well armed as well. We want to talk about this and the tensions between the u. S. And israel about the reality of those hostage talks. Its been going on since may. Truly, we are in a really tough place. Obviously, your other guest is very concerned about his son who remains a hostage. There are seven americans who remain hostages. All i can say is im very glad its President Biden<\/a> and Vice President<\/a> harris who are trying to manage this incredibly complex situation, as all of these are in the world. The West Bank<\/a> has been in some ways underreported because there is Settlement Activity<\/a> there that increases violence and increases the likelihood of having two fronts happening along with lebanon, along with what iran might be doing in the region. This is a very tough situation. The toughest, of course, as a mother is having watched hersh buried along with others this week. Just devastating. Jonathan, lets talk about your family, your worries, your fears for your son and the devastation. Your son has yet to meet his newborn daughter. Born while he was in captivity. How do the families deal with what happened to hersh . Its a horror. No question. Its not just hersh. Six beautiful young people were murdered, executed by hamas. The Israeli Army<\/a> recovered their bodies. These were unnecessary deaths. Hamas is a savage terrorist organization. There could have been an agreement that brought these people home. The week before that, six other israeli hostages having been executed or died by friendly four were recovered. Four were Friends Of Mine<\/a> for 40 years. Clearly for all the hostage families, and for anyone who cares about the future of the possibility of future forget about peace, even calm in our region, the clock is working against us. If the sides, particularly israel in this case, continues to do nothing and just stonewalls the process, then the salute sure result is of the 101 remaining hostages that theyre all Coming Home<\/a> in boxes, if at all. Its incumbent on any rightthinking person, from the families to governments and to supporters of hamas, quite honestly, to put on right now maximum pressure before, obviously, all of the hostages are killed by hamas and to avoid what is clearly becoming a scenario of a major regional war. The only way to diffuse that seems to me and most diplomats would agree and statespeople, the only way is by gets to this getting this agreement done in its current form. I call on all friends of israel, whatever your party or inclination, zionist or otherwise, all friends of hamas, whoever you are, this is the moment that you have to do your part to push both of these parties to yes. Jonathan, Wendy Sherman<\/a> is nodding. What do you say when the defense minister, the israeli intelligence services are all saying publicly and during the War Cabinet<\/a> meetings to the prime minister that its time to put the hostages first and deal with hamas later, and they dont . What do you as a father say . As a father and also as an israeli, im outraged. Im crushed. I came to israel in 1981. This government and its behavior since January Of2023<\/a> brought me to question that choice in 2023. Its an unprecedented situation. The elected government its elected Coalition Government<\/a>. For the first time in israeli history is consciously and consistently working against the national interest of the country purely to preserve its own power and in pursuit of an insane vision of the most radical elements in all of israeli society that constitute a tiny proportion, yet we have because of the Coalition Government<\/a> and prime Minister Netanyahu<\/a>s legal problems, have enormous influence over it. Secretary sherman, what can the u. S. Do with an ally when his own country is so divided on this policy . Clearly, hamas is the culprit. They could release them immediately. What do you do with an ally . Hamas is the culprit. We are working with Qatar And Egypt<\/a> to put pressure on hamas. At the same time, i would say to prime and at the same time i would say to prime Minister Netanyahu<\/a>, the knesset is out until after the holidays until late october. That means that he has political space to make very tough decisions and who cannot respond listening to jonathan speak about what is nest. Its time for the prime minister to take tough decisions. I understand how difficult this is, but one of the Issues Israel<\/a> can take control of that any time it wants. There are ways to make sure hamas cannot use it to undermine israels security. Other options here. We should get to a ceasefire and get to it now its important. Its critical for the longterm security of israel and, of course, it is critical for the livelihoods and the life of palestinians. Thank you so much. Jonathan, thank you very much. Our hearts are with you in this terrible struggle. And up next, Donald Trump<\/a> continuing to repeat his threats to jail political opponents if he wins in november. Author David Rhode<\/a> joins us. Youre watching Andrea Mitchell<\/a> reports on msnbc. Ms define you. Emerge as you. 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In his book Where Tyranny Begins<\/a>, the Justice Department<\/a>, Fbi And War<\/a> on democracy senior Executive Director<\/a> National Security<\/a> editor David Rhode<\/a>s examines how mr. Trump has coopted federal Law Enforcement<\/a>. Growing number of fbi agents saw politically charged cases as Career Enders<\/a> that could result in public villfication of the loss of their pensions and given trumps vows of revenge for criminal prosecution. What seemed like paranoia is clear, trump wiped away the norms to protect the Justice Department<\/a> and the cost to holding him to account was devastatingly high. My colleague, held hostage after being captured by the taliban in 2008. You have so much to share here. Thank you very much. Youre not youre a National Security<\/a> expert, former hostage. You are a down the middle reporter first and foremost. Thank you for saying that. But the facts, when they are so clear about what you have uncovered, about trump and the Justice Department<\/a> during his term, are laid out in this book. Its remarkable. Well, theres a positive side. There were a lot of career, government servants here in Washington Sort<\/a> of trying to do the right thing, and its a confusing position, the Attorney General<\/a>. The president is elected and they have to carry out certain policies. Postwatergate the rule the president never meddled in specific individual cases. To have the, you know, former president talking specifically about jail his enemies, is, you know, a frightening thing. And i found that Merrick Garland<\/a> on the other hand was in a way almost maybe liberals say too cautious in terms of prosecuting trump, and so its this hyper partisanship causing public servants that quote you had about they just feel theyre going to have their pensions revoked and vilified and i fear people will leave nonpartisan public service. The criticism, too cautious about proceeding with the Investigation And Prosecution<\/a> of Donald Trump<\/a> which led to the jam up at the back end, him not being brought to trial on the major election case. And the delay. The supreme courts Immunity Ruling<\/a> which created more leeway. Again, the model before, since nixon, all president s for half a century would never meddle in a criminal investigation, particularly an investigation of themselves or their aides, and that this new Immunity Ruling<\/a> said any conversations between the Attorney General<\/a> and the president are absolutely immune from being looked at as criminal. And now the Maralago Search<\/a> which was textbook, by the book, a search warrant, a judge, warnings, Fbi And Evidence<\/a> that hasnt come to court yet, its in the indictment, evidence, video evidence, other witnesses, so that is now the concern, that the fbi is going to be under attack for that if he were elected . The book begins with a meeting a few weeks before the search of maralago and there was a group of fbi agents the head of the Washington Field Office<\/a> did not want to carry out the search. It wasnt the person was protrump. He was profbi. He kept saying to the Justice Department<\/a>, people who were there, superiors, lets give trump more time. Lets have a voluntary search. Anything to not search it because he felt that was playing into trumps Conspiracy Theories<\/a> that the fbi was somehow setting it up. In the end, the system worked. A career civil servant, the Deputy Fbi Director<\/a> ordered the search to happen. There were over 100 classified documents found. Trump went on the attack said his home was being occupied and its that messaging effective today, about 75 of voters and 80 of republicans say they have little to no confidence in the Justice Department<\/a> and same for the fbi. Thats a huge challenge. More to come. The book is amazing. All your reporting. Thank you so much. Thank you. The book is Where Tyranny Begins<\/a> and that does it for this edition of Andrea Mitchell<\/a> reports. Follow the show on Social Media<\/a> mitchellreports and watch the best parts of our show on youtube, msnbc. Com andrea. Chris jansing reports starts after a Short<\/a> break. Ter a Short<\/a>. . Honey [bees buzzing] and how do i keep my protection against covid19 up to date . With a covid shot this season, designed for recent variants. You can get your Covid19 Shot<\/a> when getting your flu shot, if youre due for both, as recommended by the cdc. The fresher the better ask your Healthcare Provider<\/a> about getting this Seasons Covid19 Shot<\/a> when getting your flu shot. vo you were diagnosed with Thyroid Eye Disease<\/a> a long time ago. Covid19 Shot And Year<\/a> after year, you weathered the storm and just lived with the damage that was left behind. But even after all this time your Thyroid Eye Disease<\/a> could still change. 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