Transcripts For MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240905 : comparemel

And i think with all the horrible shootings we have had, and the murders we have had, where the shooter fits the same profile, i think its incumbent upon people who want reforms to wage a very aggressive campaign to convince people at minimum to make it much much harder to get people under 21 to get guns. Tim, garrett, yamiche, thanks to all of you. Thats going to do it for us this hour. Our coverage continues with Katy Tur reports right now. Good to be with you, im Katy Tur. Vice president Kamala Harris is about to talk to voters in New Hampshire. She is scheduled to roll out new economic proposals aimed at Small Businesses and entrepreneurs, but we expect or at least we imagine that she will start with the latest School Shooting. At least four are dead and nine are injured after a teenager open fired inside apalachee High School before noon this morning. The suspect is alive and under arrest. The identities and ages of the victims, though, are still unknown. Heres one student who described what happened to her. I was crying. I didnt want to die that way. I dont really want to meet the lord that way. Some kids were telling others to stop crying because it was probably scaring them. It was really scary. He was just a kid, he was just a quiet kid that sat in the back of the classroom, you know, and really knew who he was. Nbc news has not identified the shooter. Joining us now, nbc national Law Enforcement and Intelligence Correspondent Tom winter. What is the latest . The latest, as you reported, this individual is believed to be alive. They have been identified as a teenager to us. We dont know yet whether or not they have any sort of Nexus Or Connection to The School. Did they go there, were they a student who had some sort of connection through a Family Member or relative who may have gone there or did they just go after The School for another reason entirely, which gets us to our next point, which is the question of motive. Thats something were still trying to determine as well. Theres some bits of conflicting information in Law Enforcement circles throughout the day about the suspect and individual, so thats the reason why were not going with more detail at this time. We have not yet heard a name. But, again, the individual is alive. Theres a bit of a question as to whether or not they had an identification which might point us to the direction, you know, of a teenager. Could be 13, could be 19. Points us a little bit to the direction of the age of the person, under the age of 16 is more likely because they did not have that identification. And as weve seen with other mass shootings, for instance, the shooting in newtown, connecticut, Adam Lanza had his Brothers Information on it. There was additional information about a name that was not correct. Thats the reason for caution on the identity of the suspect. To your point, were look at four dead, nine injured. I suspect that injured total might bump up a little bit. Thats because of the students certainly heeded the warnings and the training they have unfortunately and unlikely been through. The first step of that being running away from the sounds of gunfire or the shooting. So its typical that individuals run out of The School, and injuries happen there in a stampede type fashion. The investigation ongoing, trying to see whether or not the suspect is talking to police. That might be helpful as to why this happened. Once again, it has happened, katy. Tom winter, thank you very much. Joining us now, march for our lives cofounder, and former student at Marjorie Stoneman douglas High School david hogg. Im sorry that this is what we always call you about. Come on, theres been another School Shooting, and it happens so frequently that you have become well known to this network, our viewers, voters in this country, and people around the world. Are you surprised that there arent people marching in the streets . The number of people who want Gun Control outnumber the number of people who do not. Big numbers. Are you surprising there are not marches in the streets after shootings like this all across this country . I mean, there can be, and there have been. March for our lives, when it happened after parkland was the largest protest in American History at the time. We had 4,000 High Schools, Elementary Schools and middle school, and some Home Schools walk out demanding action on Gun Violence, and millions of young people marched with us around the country. This work just takes a horrifyingly Volume Amount of time. In 2018 we thought we could go out there, young people could raise their voices, and we could get real change. We have some seen change. Clearly its not enough. And frankly, the movement we have built is still failing. Because unfortunately i am still talking to you right now, and what its going to require is something much bigger than any one organization or person. Its going to require all of us. Every single american standing up and doing what we need to do to address this in our schools. Not just School Shootings, but daily Gun Violence that happens disproportionately, and black and brown students that never got the attention or resources that parkland got. Our leaders are failing us, and we have to do so much more. That is what im talking about. I appreciate what you say about the number of schools that came out, the millions of students, that is impressive. Im wondering if youre surprised because i sort of am, why there arent more americans, parents coming out in cities across this country in less of a structured way after this happens. We see these large scale protests in other places against things that are happening there. I know were a large country, but given that we are seeing kids die so frequently in schools, were seeing individuals die in supermarkets on splash pads, at parades, in banks, in churches in synagogues at new Years Day celebrations, i mean, the list goes On And on. Every single place you go to in your daily life has now been touched by Gun Violence or a mass shooting. Not just the daily Gun Violence or a mass shooting. Movie theaters even. Given that, and given the way we live with fear of going outside of our house, every One Of Us now, because of a person with a gun, are you surprised there is not more of an organic explosion of outrage across this country . I think its time for more. I think the problem is people become numb. Its not that they dont care. Its that this happens so often, and people start to develop their own, you know, protection mechanism, to think this cant happen in my community. Parkland was one of the safest communities in florida, one of the safest in the united states, and we had one of the largest School Shooting, happen there. If you dont think it can ham to you, its not a matter of if, its a matter of when. It is the leading cause of death for young people in our country. It is the leading cause of death of future of our country, and its time for young people and old people and Everybody Else to stand up and stop waiting for somebody to tell them what to do, and start telling themselves what to do. Show up at your School Board and ask, what are we doing to make sure kids are safe in The School. And showing up at the State Legislature to demand they Change Gun laws. After parkland, people said we werent change anything, we were a bunch of stupid kids and the lot of people on the news said its great they care but nothing is going to change. But work of fred gutenberg, and manny oliver, and young people that showed up and said you need to do something. We pass add red flag law. Hold on one sec i want to back to you. I have to go to Vice President Kamala Harris. Shes addressing the shooter. Dont go anywhere. There were multiple fatalities and injuries, and you know, our hearts are with the students, teachers, and families, of course, and we are grateful to the first responders and Law Enforcement that were on the scene, but this is just a senseless tragedy. On top of so many senseless tragedies, and its just outrageous, that every day in our country in the united states of america that parents have to send their children to school worried about whether or not their child will come home alive. Its senseless. Weve got to stop it. And we have to end this epidemic of Gun Violence in our country once and for all. You know, it doesnt have to be this way. It doesnt have to be this way. So we will continue, of course, to send our prayers and our thoughts to families and all those who were affected, including, you know, im going off script right now, but listen, i mean, you know, last year i started a college tour, and i traveled our Country Meeting with our young leaders. So it was collegeaged young leaders, trade schools, colleges, universities. By the way, i love Gen Z, i just love Gen Z. All right. Ill tell you, one of the things that i asked every time i went to the auditorium, and it would be filled with these young leaders, students, and id ask them, raise your hand if at any point between Kindergarten And 12th grade you had to endure an active shooter drill. And for the young leaders who are here who are raising your hand, im telling you, every time the auditorium was packed, and almost every hand went up. Ill speak about myself, i grew up in california, we had Earthquake Drills. We had fire drills. But our kids are sitting in a classroom where they should be fulfilling their god given potential, and some part of their big beautiful brain is concern about a shooter busting through the door of the classroom. It does not have to be this way. It does not have to be this way. And, you know, this is one of the many issues thats at sake in this election. New hampshire, look, we have 62 days to go. 62 days to go. And im going to tell you what you already know. This race is going to be tight until the very end. So please lets not pay too much attention to the polls. Because we are running as the underdog. We know what theyre capable of on the other side. The only thing we can take for granted is the love that we as americans have for Each Other knowing we have so much more in common that what separates us. And weve got some Hard Work ahead, but we like Hard Work. Hard work is good work. Hard work can be joyful work, and so we are up for the task, and with your help, we will win in november. We will win in november. And that, in large part, is because we know what we stand for, and when you know what you stand for, you know what to fight for. We love our country, and we believe in the promise of america. Thats so much of what i think brings us all together this afternoon. We believe in the promise of america. And that includes a topic were going to discuss today, which is what i call an Opportunity Economy. Building an Opportunity Economy. And my vision of an Opportunity Economy is one where everyone can compete and have a real chance to succeed, where everyone, regardless of who they are, where they start, can build wealth, including intergenerational wealth, where workers are treated with dignity, everyone has the freedom to join a union if they choose. Where we remove barriers to opportunities. Anyone who wants to start a business can have access to the tools and the resources they need to do that. I believe, and i said it before to nicole, i believe americas Small Businesses are an essential foundation to our entire economy. Think about it. Think about it. Small businesses in our country employ half of all private sector workers. Half of all private sector workers own or run a small Business Or Work for a simultaneous business. They do trillions of dollars of business every year. They generate revenue that helps Repair Roads and pay our teachers, and you know, for all of those who are or know of Small Business owners, the thing i love about you is that youre not only leaders in business, you are civic leaders. You are community leaders. You are mentors. You hire locally. You believe in the community and youre part of the glue of the fabric that holds communities together. You provide the local meeting space. You are the types of folks where you know who your regulars are, and when someone is walking in the door and you can tell them theyve had a bad day, you know exactly what they need. Isnt that the best of who we are . Isnt that the best of who we are . And ive met so many entrepreneurs across the country who take the incredible Leap Of Faith thats required to start a maul business. Folks who put their Life Savings on the line, and work through the weekends and holidays, because they arent just building a business. Theyre pursuing a dream. Theyre building a better future for their employees and for the people they love and their communities. And by extension, theyre building a stronger Middle Class and a stronger america for us all. And so all of this is why i as president , one of my highest priorities will be to strengthen americas Small Businesses, and here i am in New Hampshire to announce a few elements of my plan to do that. [ applause ] first were going to help more Small Businesses and innovators get off the ground. Im setting what some will call a very ambitious goal, but i think we should admire ambition in Each Other. So i want to see 25 Million new Small Business applications by The End of my first term. And to help achieve this, we will lower the cost of starting a new business. Heres the thing, on average, it costs about 40,000 to start a new business in america. That is a great financial barrier for a lot of folks. And it can hold entrepreneurs back. And the current Tax Deduction for a Start Up is just 5,000. So then youve got to make up the delta there. Figure out how youre going to do that. Not everyone has access to that kind of wealth and capital. So part of my plan is we will expand the Tax Deduction for startups to 50,000. Its essentially a Tax Cut for starting a Small Business. Second, my plan will help existing Small Businesses grow. We will provide low and no Interest Loans to Small Businesses that want to expand and this is very important, we will cut the Red Tape that can make starting and growing a Small Business more difficult than it needs to be. More difficult than it needs to be. [ applause ] for example, we will make it cheaper and easier for Small Businesses to file their taxes. Similar to how individuals can take a standard deduction. You know, i said to my family, kind of like im going to date myself again because they no longer do it, but kind of like the 1040 easy, that kind of idea. Lets take away some of the bureaucracy of the process. Third, my plan will invest in Small Businesses and innovators throughout the america. And heres why. We know that talentists everywhere in our country from rural towns to city centers. Not everyone has access to the Financing Or Venture Capital Or Expert advice. Its not that they dont have the skills. Its not that they dont have the work ethic, its access to these resources. So under my plan we will expand access to venture capital. We will support Business Innovations and Busi