Front door. Some had riot shields and guns in their holsters. The officers presented a search warrant and questioned her for three hours. At one point they had the great grandmother stand outside in her nightgown. According to their warrant, officers were looking for records including applications for ballot by mail, a list of voter banks and documents about elected officials and candidates. Martina said the officers told her they were there because she filled out a report saying older residents were not getting mail ballots. That is quite an aggressive response to that report, which she confirms she did file. Martinez is a retired educator in san antonio who spent 35 years as a member and volunteer with lulac, the civil rights group in america. Part of her work with the organization includes helping older residents and veterans registered to vote and that is what made her suspicious to republican texas attorney general ken paxton. Martinez and other leaders heldn a news conference outside paxton's office in san antonio. They took my ledger, my appointment book. I don't know when , i have an appointment with my doctors. They took my cell phone. They took all the information that i had. I have sons and daughters and they don't want me involved in this anymore. They are scared that vei'm goin to be in prison and i said they can't, i'm not doing anything illegal. Martinez was just one target of raids on several democrats in south texas. Cr they are all part of a twoyear investigation into alleged election fraud and vote harvesting conducted by paxton's election integrity unit. That is the same unit created in the wake of donald trump's fake election claims. Now of course no charges have been filed against those who had their homes searched this month, so what does this new stunt by paxton actually achieve besides fueling fear? these raids left his targets shaken up and scared and outside the latino community they push a false narrative about noncitizens supposedly voting illegally. The texas attorney general has been eager to advance this baseless claim about voter thought throughout his career. On a radio show earlier this month he said, quote, there is a reason joe biden brought people here illegally. I'm convinced that is how they are going to do at this time. They are going to use the illegal vote. To be clear, absolutely clear, u. S. Law already bans noncitizens from voting in u. S. Elections and as experts have repeatedly said, there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in texas or this country at large. You know it is true, though? texas's long history of discrimination against citizens of mexican descent. It is why the historic latino civil rights organization came together in the first place in 1929. You can imagine these raids felt deeply personal. The group's national president called them, quote, pointblank voter intimidation and now lulac has turned the tables on paxton by calling on the justice department to investigate the investigator. You know the one desperately searching for voter fraud and for potentially violating the voting rights act. Joiningig me to discuss this an more is the lulac ceo. Thank you for making time for us. Walk me through what has happened since that incident with ms. Martinez. Has there been any more insight into what they were trying to achieve, what they planned on doing and have her possessions been returned? her possessions have not been returned to her. We got a lot more information relative to the other warrants that were served. The big rooms. To our best knowledge they were about 12 of them. We have spoken with five and four of those are lulac members. We sent a letter to the department of justice asking for an inquiry and we will be meeting with them as early as next week to provide them with all the information that we have relative to this case. What do you want the department of justice to do in this inquiry? i assume they have not responded to you and will perhaps respond in person when you meet with them, but what is it you are seeking from the department of justice? we want an investigation on the civil side and criminal side as well. We believe that her civil rights have been violated and so we want them to investigate. I was going to say, ken paxton seems to have launched, s you know, kind of an attack now on organizations in texas and you know if you are an outside observer, you can say with some degree of confidence, this has the hallmarks of voter intimidation. When you are targeting groups and trying to undercut their yi ability to vote freely and fairly and feel confident about, you are doing a great disservice to our democracy. How do you fight that? how do you counter that? how do you get these organizations to mobilize in this tech? first and foremost there is a pattern. We've been talking about the raids for the past week, but if you go back to june we actually filed a lawsuit against catholic charities. In july he filed suit against annunciation house, which provides respite services for immigrants in the united states. All of those nonprofit organizations and all of those latino leaders, civic leaders, lulac members are all latino, so there is no question he is targeting latinos. One of the things we are doing in our responses a response will not be only a latino response. We are working with the naacp. I met yesterday with the urban league. With the leadership conference. So our response will be one of the civil rights community taking into account hispanics, african american and the asian community as well. Let me share with you something that the governor has been doing, greg abbott. He purged 1 million people from the voting rolls saying that illegal voting in texas will l not be tolerated, but the majority of voters data shows that were removed from the polls either passed away or failed to respond to notices from election officials or moved out of texas. You believe there is a concerted effort to fearmonger ahead of the election and create a sense of intimidation? i think he put that out, because he put that out last friday as a way to deflect from the story, this negative story that has impacted his administration and paxton, but in addition it undercuts their argument of systemic voter fraud and harvesting. 6500 of those persons actually removed from the voting role were defined as noncitizens. 6500 of 1. 1 million records is less than half of 1%. 1900 of those 6500 actually had voting history. So you're talking less than 1/1000 of a percent of people who were on the voting rolls who are noncitizens, immigrants if you will. Statistically insignificant. That is not systemic voter fraud or voter harvesting. It undercuts their entire argument. What i am concerned about is he gave those 1900 records, literally handed them over to paxton and our expectation is he is going to go after them. He is going to arrest someone on those. Let me ask you real quick, i know we are almost out of time, but why are they so afraid of latinos in texas? why is there such a concerted effort to go after this invisible bogeyman? well, it is not invisible. There are 12. 1 million latinos in texas. Latinos are 40% of the population. It is actually greater than the 12 million nonhispanic whites who live in the state and when you take into account hispanics, african americans and asians, that is 60% of the population. Texas is and has been a majority minority state for some time. This is their way to stay in power. Not just to keep in control of the state, but there are st districts changing dramatically because of these demographics. Thank you so much. It is a pleasure to speak to you and we will certainly stay on top of this story in the weeks and months ahead. Please come back. Coming up, donald trump does the ultimate flipflop on abortion rights and he is hoping no one notices. We will tell you about that, next. 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Tmobile's 5g network connects a hundred thousand delta employees so they can make every customer feel like they've arrived before they've left the ground. This is how business goes further with tmobile for business. So what so what do you do when you are the presidential candidate responsible for stripping away reproductive rights of millions of women? well, if you are donald trump you suddenly attempt to rebrand yourself as a champion of reproductive freedom and pray everyone else has amnesia. This week and an exclusive interview with dasha burns trump was asked how, as a florida resident, he plans on voting on the ballot amendment to overturn the state's six week abortion ban. Watch. I think six weeks is too short. It has to be more time and i have told them that i want more weeks. So you will vote in favor of the amendment? i am going to be voting that we need more than six weeks. So trump left an opening to vote to overturn the florida sixweek abortion ban, but not so fast. After 24 hours of conservative backlash including from his own campaign staff who released a statement to npr, trump ran to fox to officially flipflop yet again and side with the antiabortion rights extremists within his party. Watch. So i think six weeks, you need more time than six weeks. I've disagreed with that right from the early primaries when i heard about it i disagreed with it. At the same time the democrats are radical, because nine months is just a ridiculous situation. Where you can do an abortion in the ninth month and some of the states like minnesota and other states have it where you can actually execute the baby after birth and all of that stuff is unacceptable. So i will be voting no for that reason. Joining me now to discuss this is a msnbc political analyst and host of the fast politics podcast. Executing a baby after they are bored is actually murder and that is not legal anywhere in the united states of america, we just want to make sure we clarify that for anyone who is watching, but i do want to ask you about his flipflop, molly, because kamala harris jumped all over this today. She wrote first he got roe overturned and then got abortion banned in 20 states. Now he is voting for an abortion ban in the state where he lives. If elected he will sign a nationwide abortion ban if it crosses his desk. Says is found, so we have a record of what he says. Yeah, i mean i was glad he said that thing about the nine month abortions, you know, you can kill the baby, because it is not true and there are laws against that. If a baby is born alive you have to resuscitate. This is the law. He has been saying this license 2016. He has his favorite lies. Look, this is, we know what donald trump will do and we know it because of the three supreme court justices he installed and he said he was going to put in and type choice put in antichoice justices. And they overturned roy roe v. Wade. A protected right, the right to privacy and that you could have an abortion and it was federal and these three justices along with the other conservative justices overturned it and we saw in the oral arguments this session that alito and thomas talked about using the comstock act, an 18thcentury law that has not been used forever, to make mailing abortion pills illegal. So we see where this is going and anyone who has looked at project 2025 knows for sure the plan is regulate ivf, because embryos are people. That is the thinking, so you don't want to lose a person. And then use comstock to make it illegal to mail the pills. There is an irony, josh, which is donald trump on one hand appears or projects this strawman image, but on the issue of reproductive rights he is clearly following the extremists within his party. This is a guy that doesn't seem to have a lot of moral positions and so on this issue and the party says no, we want to be extreme and we want a national abortion ban, he will literally wake up and say fine, i will do it and then when he wants to try to win an election and be more moderate, he will say no, i won't support a national abortion ban. That's right. Running for president, a campaign is like sex or you can promise to do a lot of stuff and no one knows what you are capable of until you are right up in there. Unfortunate for america, but fortunate for knowing where he stands is we have seen what it likes when he screws america for four years and the world. People don't like that, so he knows the positions of his party are unpopular. Using what i will do. Six months, eight months and then when he is in power you see him stripping away reproductive freedoms. Molly, there was another portion of the interview with dasha burns that i want to play. Again, trying to portray himself as a moderate on reproductive rights, announcing a new policy on ivf treatments. Watch this. We are going to be, under the trump administration we are going to be paying for that treatment. All americans who want it? allamericans that get it. All americans that need it. We will be paying for that treatment or be mandating that the insurance company pay. So either the government will pay for it or the insurance companies will pay? under a mandate, yes. Just to be clear when the government pays for medical treatment for citizens that is called socialized healthcare. That is the definition. So it seems trump is opening the door to socialized healthcare in the republican party, in his administ