This weekend marks our celebration of labor day, and the unofficial end to what has been a historic and sometimes unbelievable summer. And now, comes the race to november with both kamala harris and donald trump each making their sprint toward election day. The 66 days to go, vice president harris has been busy on social media challenging trump on a host of issues as she looks to capitalize on a successful week including her bus tour through south georgia. On thursday around 7500 supporters packed and arena in savannah to hear vice president harris speak. It was the maxim capacity of the venue according to her campaign. And that momentum seems to be translating to the polls. A new fox news poll shows harris has put four sunbelt states back in place and she entered the race. Now she merrily leads trump within the margin of error in georgia, arizona and nevada, while trump is barely clinging to a one point lead in north carolina. The poll also shows the vice president has improved on biden's 2020 and 2024 poll numbers in those same states. But here's the thing we have to keep in mind. Polls are not predictive, they just represent a snapshot in time. And, they've been wrong before. I'm old enough to remember that in this exact month in 2016, fox news had hillary clinton crushing donald trump in the race by 10 points, while polls are useful, take into account that they don't always indicate what polars will ultimately decide in november. Nevertheless the vice president is using the moment to her advantage, even doing the one thing critics accused of do hurt a sitdown interview, in a conversation with cnn's dana bash, she and governor walz discussed a wide range of topics but there was one thing the vice president refused to entertain. That was trump's attacks on her identity and race. He suggested that you happened to turn black recently for political purposes. Questioning a core part of your identity. Same old, tired playbook, next question, please. That's it? that's it. That's it, as you can see, harris is not taking the bait on any of trump's attacks and he seems to be battled rattle by how she appears, race baiting and bullying are his usual go to moves but as he becomes more flustered by not being able to find solid footing, he is struggling to put out a consistent message on policy, case in point, thursday, trump initially told nbc that he thought florida's six week abortion ban was too short and he indicated he would vote for a proposed amendment that would expand abortion access in the state but just a day later, after pressure from activists, he reversed course and came out against the measure. So i think six weeks, you need more time, than six weeks, i disagree with that from the early primaries when i heard about it, i disagreed with it. At the same time, the democrats are radical because the nine months is just a ridiculous situation. So i'll be voting no for that reason. Besides trump's flip flopping on this issue, it's very important that we debunk his lie right here. Democrats are not and have not pushed for abortions at nine months. In fact according to federal and state data, abortions past the point of viability are extremely rare. Joining me to get us started and unpack all of this is congressman chantel brown from ohio. Thank you so much for being here. I want to start with the vice president's response on twitter regarding trump and his comments to fox, which he said first, he got row overturned and then got a better abortion band in 20 states and now he is voting for an abortion ban in the state that he lives and he will sign and nationwide abortion ban if it crosses his death. What do you make, congresswoman, of his back and forth on this issue, and how do you think if at all, voters will be able to reconcile his different positions? charles, first and foremost, thank you for having me. I have to wish one of my dearest friends a happy 50th birthday to lisa, now onto the business, trump flipflops more than my favorite sandals, you cannot trust a word this man says, he's gone back and forth on this position and the reason we are even in this situation is we must harken back to what you talked about at the top of the program and that is 2016. Now we are going to go on what antoine seawright refers to as a polar coaster from now until election day, they are going to go up and down. And hillary clinton was defeating trump according to the polls and some people stayed home and some people decided they were going to vote third party in protest because of her email's, and what we ended up with was donald trump in the white house and the ability to appoint not one, not two, but three supreme court justices who have overturned decades of precedent as it relates to women being able to make their own health care decisions, so i want people to be reminded of that and to understand if the stakes are equally high in this election despite the energy, despite the enthusiasm, we have to harness all of this and show up in the polls, that is the only way to stop donald trump, jd vance and their extreme project 2025 plans including a national abortion ban that has no exceptions and remember, ohio is the state where we had the 10yearoldvictim who had to flee our state to get the healthcare she needed because abortion is healthcare. Chantel, both trump and vice president harris are in a very tightly contested race and they both need to get as many voters as they can who are persuadable, to turn out, from either side, is there a world that exists that allows them to stretch and reach voters who are not a part of their base without losing the criminal portions of their base that they actually need to turn out? i've absolutely believe that, as we have seen with the organic organization of support for the kamala harris and tim walz ticket, i mean we had over 70,000 republicans are kamala harris on a zoom call, so i think the demonstrative of her ability to talk to people beyond party affiliation, during her interview, she spoke about her willingness to put someone in her cabinet that was from the republican party, so this is a woman who is truly for the people, she's about taking care of the people where you have a strong stark contrast, where we have the senator from my state, who really only needed one qualification to replace mike pence, who donald trump attempted to have assassinated during the january 6th insurrection which is why we have jd vance on the ticket in the first place, he met the one qualification that was to be the yesman to donald trump, whose only desire is to stay out of jail. So when you look at these two candidates, these two tickets, the republicans versus the democrats, you've got democrats who are fighting for the people, putting forth initiatives that are going to put money back into people's pockets, we have a lot more work to do and we are clear about that but on the other side, you have people who are just disrespectful to everyone, i mean from veterans to immigrants, to people who have disabilities, this is just not the type of people that you want in control in the white house or any organization, for that matter. Congresswoman, you mentioned it and i wanted to stay here for a moment, let's talk about the scene and interview that the vice president did. In it, she was asked about trump's repeated attacks regarding her race and ethnicity and claims that she in fact is not black and at this point, she neglected or opted rather, to address it. She really didn't respond at all. Dana bash didn't push back on it. Is it a winning strategy to not even engage around that question? it's working, listen, the fact of the matter is, the vice president, kamala harris, has been black her whole life and i don't think she's denied that, when you look at her history, the fact that she pledged a. K. A. And went to an hbcu, that speaks for itself. And so i applaud her not entertaining the foolishness that comes out of donald trump's mouth as it relates to her heritage and her race. As she quoted, a tired old a book that he continues to use to try to attack people that he is clearly intimidated by. I think first lady obama also touched on it, it's hard for him to handle people who are intelligent, highly educated, and hardworking that happen to be black, and so, what's understood must not be explained, it's evident that she's black and always has been and she's not flipflopping on that. Congress woman brown, before we go, one of the things that did not get discussed during the interview was the vice presidents position or policy around criminal justice and civil rights. When can we expect her to talk about that given her past as a former prosecutor? i think as she continues to crisscross the country and connect with the voters, you will hear more from the vice president on the great work that she did. I think there are a lot of misinformation that are floating around, you are an attorney so i won't pretend pretend to do lawyering but they get a bad rap but the people who are fighting for victims, that is a big part of her career. She has won billions of dollars for people who were being taken advantage of by big banks in california but i'm excited to see her talk about how she is put forward programs to reduce recidivism, and things that are beneficial to the people. I expect more than that and i think when people get an opportunity to hear how she has served the public rather than donald trump who only has an interest in serving himself, her numbers will continue to grow. What's understood does not need to be explained, that was ohio congressman brown, and shout out special happy birthday to your girl, lisa on saturday show. We now turn to breaking news out of the middle east. The idf said it has found a number of bodies during combat in the gaza strip. Troops are still operating in the area and are carrying out the process of identifying the bodies. The idf said this could take several hours and we will bring you more as details emerge. Also coming up, donald trump tries to again defend his controversial visit to arlington national cemetery. Plus vice president harris is accusing him of pulling a political stunt on sacred ground. 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Plus ask how to get up to a $500 prepaid card. Call today! political followed over trump's controversial visit to arlington national cemetery is growing. According to the army monday, a member of trump's campaign staff abruptly pushed aside a staff member at the cemetery so trump and his campaign could take photos with families of servicemembers who died during the us military's withdrawal from afghanistan in 2021. The incident happened in an area where photos are usually prohibited. Trump said the family asked for the pictures and at an event last night last out at the criticism he is receiving. They said trump, president trump spent time at arlington national cemetery taking pictures and things. It's just so disgusting and i'll tell you, i get a lot of publicity, i don't need that publicity. I don't need that publicity. I get a lot. I get too much, i'd like to have half the publicity. I want to hire a pr person to get me half the publicity. In case you are wondering, hiring a pr person to get less publicity is generally not how hiring a pr person usually works but that's another conversation. Harris hit back against trump's antics tweeting, quote, let me be clear, the former president disrespected sacred ground, all for the sake of a political stunt. Joining me now is rena shaw, former cop gop senior advisor and a member of republicans for harris, and aaron haynes, and msnbc political contributor. So glad to have my favorites here. Rena, i will start with you, less than a hour after vp harris tweeted the criticism, jd vance was on the airways, he tweeted back saying, quote why don't you get off social media and go launch an investigation into their unnecessary deaths. What do you make of this sort of back and forth between jd vance and the vice president? putting my political strategist hat on for a minute, i would have advised that, it's fine to bring it up because that's what they wanted to do. He wanted to have that as a moment at arlington national cemetery where they could stick it to the biden/harris administration and say you failed in afghanistan and americans haven't forgotten. I mourn the loss of our fellow americans who served proudly and last their lives it was disastrous, but we've moved so far away from that, charles, and they are not able to land any punches and that is what sticks to me, jd vance, and all these weeks, and all of his fighting back at har