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MSNBC Dateline September 1, 2024

Don't think of them. The pain becomes a part of you. Get everybody out here to my house now. He came home and found her, his entire family gone. I said what are you talking about, what are you saying? it was surreal. As fellow cops suspected him. I did not do this. I did not do this. She was upset. She felt like history is repeating itself. Or police just plain wrong? it's like a twilight zone. Lies become truth and the truth becomes lies. May be the real killer was still out there. You have lied to the police about this case. So devastating. We know that was probably the key to solving this. 13 years of hell. Such an awful crime. The wife, the little boy and girl, shot at pointblank range. I was dumbfounded with shock. How to comprehend it? i said what, wait, what are you talking about, what are you saying? the husband had an alibi. He could have done anything, but he didn't. 13 years, three trials, appeals, reversals and changing stories. The big picture here for a lot of people as it sounds like a crime. It doesn't pass the sniff test. There's a lot of things about this case that doesn't make sense. It has been a long winding pursuit of justice is one family sees it. It gets more and more wrong. I kind of adopted the say that when you enter into the courtroom, lies become truth and the truth becomes lies. But there is another side, another family, one who sees a terrible miscarriage of justice. You wonder if everybody got three trials how many guilty people would be out walking the streets. But, there is one indisputable truth. Ken, jill and bradley campbell were nothing less than innocence lost that evening. Every day, i will tell you whoever says that time heals has never lost a child. I can tell you that time doesn't heal anything. The pain becomes a part of you. Times. Turn the clock back to the year 2000, september 28, to be precise, thursday after work. The place, a church rec center jim in georgetown, southern indiana. A pickup basketball game was underway with the usual thursday night guys. This was just you guys getting together? david kamm, a 36yearold manager and a waterproofing business was a regular. We play a little basketball in indiana. That name after the game wrapped up david headed straight home. Usually they would help kim with the kids in the evening but on this night he was late and he knew kim would not be happy about that. They got to get their homework done before they went to bed and i thought, she's going to be upset when i get home because i'm not there to help. As he rolled into his driveway he clicked the garage door opener. The nightmare awaited him. Once the garage door raised up just above the head of my truck is when i saw kim. She was down on the garage floor? yes. Actually, at first i thought it was jill laying there. I did not realize it was kim until i got out of my truck and ran into the garage and that is when i saw that it was kim. How do you take this in? it's too much to absorb. It's indescribable what was going through my mind at the time. Kim was still, bent slightly at the waste, long pool of blood from her head. When did you look in the to the vehicle? i don't remember how long it was but after checking on kim, being assured in my mind that she was gone, i just suddenly thought about the kids, where are the kids, and my first instinct was to look into the bronco and i got up on the passenger seat and i could see more into the back and that is when i saw brad and jill. Jill, still buckled and on the back passenger side, was slumped over. There was blood in her hair. Next to her, brad seem to be clambering over the seat. It was apparent even in your shock that this was a gunshot event? i did not know how it had died. So he was in the consul? over the top of the consul. That's how i got in there and got brad. Bradford, felt warm to you? yes and i thought he might have a chance. David had been an indiana state trooper for almost 11 years. That night in the garage she says his police training kicked in. It seemed to him that his daughter, jill, was dead but if there was even a whisper of a chance for his son, brad, david knew he had to get them out of the bronco and give him cpr. I picked him up and pulled him into me and turned around and went back out the same way that i came in. Came out the passenger door, put him down on the garage floor and started working on them? i just remember looking at his face. And like with jill, his eyes, there was no moisture and they were half shut. It was pretty obvious that he was gone. And this has all happened and what, 47 45 seconds in real life? yeah, probably. Maybe a minute. Kneeling on the garage floor amidst the bodies of his family, david knew he had to get help. He called the indiana state police where he used to work. Lester holt: your family dead, murdered, how do you even begin to absorb that? david camm's david camm's 13 year journey into hell was only minutes old. Coming up they were beating on the door, nelson, come quick. Somebody's killed my family. Your family dead, murdered. How do you even begin to absorb that? all these things spinning around inside my head. Is this real? am i really here? it's surreal. He actually was laying back, saying why did they have to go? there was more pain, much more still to come, when dateline continues. Dateline co in people 60 years and older. Arexvy does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients. Those with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. The most common side effects are injection site pain, fatigue, muscle pain, headache, and joint pain. Arexvy is number one in rsv vaccine shots. Rsv? make it arexvy. 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Get everybody out here to my house now. After trying unsuccessfully to revive his son, david run across the street. Across the street. I to check on jill, his daughter in the bronco, and nelson says he made his way carefully to the vehicle. Door. David was beating on the door and hollering nelson, nelson, come quick. They're all dead, they're all dead. Nelson dropped everything and raced over to david's garage. I was dumbfounded. I was shocked what i saw. David yelled at him to check on jill, his daughter from the bronco and nelson said he made his way carefully to the vehicle. Like david, he was a former state trooper and knew the crime scenes had to be preserved. I looked in the back seat i looked in the back seat and that is when i saw little jill back there. I reached back and i touched her arm or shoulder, something and i said jill, jill. You knew she was gone? i knew she was gone and i said dave, i think they're all gone, buddy. He actually went down to the ground, was laying on his back ground, was laying on his back rolling around and saying why, and i wanted to make sure that i didn't do anything to hamper it. Why did i have to go? what didn't i stay with them? uncle nelson managed to get dave away from the garage. Dave is trying his best to get back in. I wouldn't let him go back in. I knew it had to be done because i knew we had a horrific crime scene and i wanted to make sure i didn't do anything to hamper it. David camm says he was way beyond understanding anything that night but the questions wouldn't stop. Just all these things spinning around inside my head. Spinning around inside my head. Isere introduced by marcy mcleod. Marcy had been best friends with kim ever since ninth grade am i really here? did i really just fine kim and brad and jill as they are? it was just surreal. It was just surreal. That night was the end of everything david and kim had built together. They had met in the late 1980s. They were introduced by marcy mcleod. Marcie had been best friends with kim ever since ninth grade. She was very quiet for she was very quiet for people that didn't know her but very funny, very loyal, very sweet. David and kim married in 1989. They threw a big fun party then got on with their lives. Kim incorporate accounting and oh, yash. An indian trooper, a career kim had encouraged him to pursue. Here he is in uniform being 1990s about road safety during the holidays. The big hat seemed tailormade for david camm. For david camm. He was soon a member of and left the band of brothers. Boy, it must have been hard to leave, dave. You know, it was, but i mean, you had this good thing elite emergency s. W. A. T. Team. That is a band of brothers? exactly. Love those guys. We're talking about guys he would literally die for. Overtime after the kids were born, david wanted to spend more time with his family, so in may 2000, he went to work as a manager in his uncle sam a manager in his uncle sam lockhart's business that they would always be my friends and that they would always have my back if i ever needed them. The band of brothers. It must've been hard to leave there. You had this good thing you're going to and wanted to have more of life but yet i can see how much he liked being in law enforcement. Yes, i felt like i was at a point in my life when i needed point in my life when i needed to make that change wanted to make that change, and i presumed that i would remain close with these guys, that they would always be my friends and they would always have my back if i ever needed them. By september 2000, the cams seemed to be living a picture perfect life. Things are going well at home and at work. Kim was a totally engaged mother. David's uncle sought the camm family all the time. Great mom. The kids were like my grandkids. Little jill yeah, she she is a kick. She was a character. She really was. Just a funny little girl. Just a funny little girl. If she didn't havedants of nine brothers and sisters on david's mother's side. The lockhart's were so entrenched attention, she would get it. She was very i think she would've been very athletic. She was gifted in that way. And brad was a swimmer? he loved it. He was great at it. Being a father i thought, this kids good. Raced through two families w david sprawling extended family, the lockhart's, descendents of nine brothers and sisters on david's mother's side. They were so entrenched in this patch of southern indiana that they had a road named after them, lockhart road where david's family lived. David's family lived. There cannot of been i guess that she could gather up and was holding them and just better place for us to be when all of this terrible stuff happened. The awful news raced through two families that night. David sister, julie, was getting ready to go to bed when the phone rang. I said what, what are you talking about? julie went straight to her parents house. Parents house. Mom had all the well, it can't be good. So i go out and i open the door, and i brad and jill i guess that she could gather up and was holding them and sitting on the floor and just rocking and saying my babies, my babies, somebody has babies, my babies, somebody has killed my so i got out there. David sent his uncle to tell kim's parents, janice and frank renn. Late at night the doorbell rings, what can this be? well, it can't be good so i go out and open the door and i see him standing out there and i think my mind just went blank. She yelled for me to get out she yelled for me to get out there so when i got in the indiana state police would be on the front line. Samhsa got some bad news. Kim and brad and jill have been shot. With that i just kind of slid down to a sitting position. I sat there and cried and could not believe it. On lockhart road, the sound of sirens followed by sirens. The sound of investigation was beginning in david's friends and colleagues in the indiana and colleagues in the indiana state police front line. Never seen dishes before. Never. Never. When dateline continues. Herbal essences is packed with naturally derived plantbased ingredients your hair will love. Our sulfate free collections smell incredible and leave your hair touchably soft and smooth. Herbal essences. Andennis murphy: ar tmother, son and daughter. Gunned down in the garage of the family home made it out of the back seat of the bronco. Who hurt them? the answer to that question would be the responsibility of the investigators, indiana state police and the floyd county prosecutor. He got the call at 10, 10:30 that night. It was horrible, yeah. Faith knew immediately that the case would be big. He got to the crime scene asap. The first thing the prosecutor noticed was the ribbon of blood running out of the garage right down the drive. I almost stepped in it myself. He could see the wife and mother, kim camm , line by the open passenger door, her pants removed. At the signature of a crime, the children killed because they were witnesses. A gray sweatshirt was beside the boy, and article of clothing that would become important over time. The state police, indiana's top investigative force, had already began its work. The crime scene text examined the bronco, took the measurements in the pictures, and stan faith studied the scene. Was there anything auto as it turns too soon to take all that stuff in? the thing that struck me the most is how clean the garage was. Some of the troopers in the garage had been fellow officers of david camm. There were a couple i didn't really recognize but for the mos

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