you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, is another gag order in store for donald trump? he's made claims about the fbi and a plot to assassinate him with absolutely nothing to back it up. why the special counsel says that has put agents' lives in danger. also ahead, the biden campaign's all hands on deck approach to debate week. hundreds of events, watch parties and new advertising. we've got all the details. plus the violent clashes outside a synagogue in los angeles. punches thrown, people wrestled to the ground and kicked as duel war protests get out of control. how that all unfolded. the dangerous unrelenting heat, nearly 50 million americans baking as temperature records are shattered across the u.s. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin with msnbc legal correspondent lisa ruben ahead of that critical hearing in trump's classified documents case. prosecutors cite threats to the fbi for their reason for a gag order request. break it all down for us. >> reporter: chris, this all started with donald trump discovering that with the mar-a-lago search the fbi attached a standard policy that it has regarding the use of deadly force. it used that policy also in doing searches of president biden's residence in wilmington, delaware. the former president decided that that policy meant that the fbi not only was authorized to use deadly force if necessary but intended to, and intended to kill him, and said as much publicly. that's when the special counsel went to judge a lean can said statements like that need to be stopped and modify his bail conditions so he can't say things that pose an imminent, significant and foreseeable threat to law enforcement involved in this investigation. as proof that things like that could happen, they pointed to something that has happened, the case of ricky schiffer. he's a man who threatened to attack and tried to attack an fbi facility in cincinnati, ohio, three days after the initial mar-a-lago search. today they are going to point to ricky schiffer's truth social post where he says, kill the fbi on sight. that was just a day before he tried to attack the fbi office in cincinnati. >> lisa ruben, thank you. with just three days to go before the presidential debate, the biden campaign is gearing up for 1,600 events in the leadup to the face-off with trump. monica alvarez is in washington with us. what do we know about the president's debate week strategy? >> reporter: they're trying to make this a week-long event instead of just the major prime time evening where they know there will be a lot of eyeballs on that match-up. they want to try to engage some of these voters that maybe haven't totally tuned in yet to the 2024 race and cycle. the biden campaign is trying to argue this is the moment when that will really kick into high gear. that's why they're going to be hosting hundreds of watch parties around the debate, they'll be hosting hundreds of events in battleground states leading up to it. that's also why you see them really pour millions of dollars they've been fund-raising for into these new ads you're seeing not just on television, during big events, but also digitally. that blitz is meant to coincide with this major event on thursday. in terms of how the president is really preparing, he's been at camp david now for several days with his close aides. they are huddling and deciding really some of the best strategic decisions here. we got a little insight from one of the campaign manager advisers, former mayor mitch landrieu, who spoke to specifically the donald trump aspect to all of this. listen. >> it really doesn't matter how donald trump shows up. if he comes in unhinged like he is most of the time or he sits there and is quiet, people are going to know he's a twice impeached, convicted felon who's found to have defamed somebody, sexually abused someone. >> the trick for the president is, of course, trying to balance a couple of things in short bite-sized answers. that's what they're working on. they're going topic by topic on what they expect will come up. as you saw from mayor landrieu, they do expect there to be a personal clash and for there to be attacks lobbed back and forth between these two men that touch on some of these major other issues we've seen throughout the cycle, where we could see president biden talking about former president trump's criminal and guilty conviction, where you could see president biden bring up specifically what we've been talking about a lot today, which is former president trump likes to take credit for the fall of roe, there will be those really specific barbs president biden is expected to be ready with, but then there's also always the unknown and unscripted moment and they're trying to prepare for some of that, too, at least as best as you can. chris? >> monica alba, thank you. let's go to the dangerous heat wave that has been affecting millions of people. nbc's george solis is in philadelphia. a 136-year-old temperature record was just broken. i hope your feet are actually in that water behind you because it seems like it's too hot to stand outside. tell us how it's going on there. how are people coping? >> reporter: hey, chris, that was a record that a lot of us were hoping we wouldn't break. it was broken yesterday. what a difference a day makes. today a little bit more seasonable. there's actually a breeze. i don't know if you can tell that's actually making it quite nice as the fountains spray me from behind. my back is soaking, which is quite nice when you talk about the last several days of that oppressive heat that's been in the 90s-plus, not to mention the feels-like temperature, definitely in the triple digits. we've been monitoring surfaces. i can tell you just looking 95 degrees yesterday around this time. this was about 130 degrees. really puts things into perspective. nevertheless, people are still taking those precautions because, again, it is still taking us time to acclimate to this heat. drinking lots of water, wearing the loose fit clothing, finding the shade. a caught up with a gentleman out here who sums it up best. listen. >> the weather is just perfect. great day. >> reporter: you didn't say that over the weekend? >> over the weekend it was scorching, pretty much dangerous. we had a winter storm in 1996. you remember that? you probably weren't born. >> reporter: i was born. of course, something this good is not meant to last. those temperatureses are expected to rebound right back into that dangerous 90 to 94 range by the middle of the week. so, of course, we can take what we can get today. mr. softy making a quick buck selling ice cream, and it will continue that way. this summer it is hitting hard, hitting fast and no signs it is going to yield any time soon, chris. >> george solis, thank you for braving the temperatures for us. in 90 seconds, vice president kamala harris pointing the finger at donald trump as she marks two years since the fall of roe v. wade. >> in the case of the stealing of reproductive freedom, from the women of america, donald trump is guilty. indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast. smile! you found it. the feeling of finding psoriasis can't filter out the real you. so go ahead, live unfiltered with the one and only sotyktu, a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding you're so ready for your close-up. or finding you don't have to hide your skin just your background. once-daily sotyktu was proven better, getting more people clearer skin than the leading pill. don't take if you're allergic to sotyktu; serious reactions can occur. sotyktu can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections, cancers including lymphoma, muscle problems, and changes in certain labs have occurred. tell your doctor if you have an infection, liver or kidney problems, high triglycerides, or had a vaccine or plan to. sotyktu is a tyk2 inhibitor. tyk2 is part of the jak family. it's not known if sotyktu has the same risks as jak inhibitors. find what plaque psoriasis has been hiding. there's only one sotyktu, so ask for it by name. so clearly you. sotyktu. arthritis pain? 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>> right. clearly they believe that she going to the state of arizona and articulating the message on reproductive rights is going to be critical in the november election. we saw this as an issue in the 2022 midterm elections when democrat katie hobbs won the governor's race over kari lake in the state of arizona. this time around there will be a ballot measure in which arizonans will be able to go and vote on making a statute that abortion rights are protected in the state of arizona. kamala harris is going to not only make the political one but the one about the policy and the direct impact that air voters can have when they go to the ballot box. that's why you is seen the biden campaign be intentional about sending the vice president out to deliver that message. >> mike, donald trump is talking about it, too. i want to play for you a little bit of what he said this weekend about abortion. >> and i believe in exceptions for the life of the mother, rape and incest. some people do. i think most people do, actually. but some people don't. you have to go with your heart. but you also have to remember, you have to get elected. >> you have to get elected, mike. that's a pragmatic message now from donald trump. he's been all over the place previously on abortion over the years, but polling suggests that's more likely, right, to resonate with those middle of the road voters. tell me what you're hearing in this debate over abortion. >> absolutely. that's a great question. trump's position on abortion is like trying to nail jello to the wall, historically. when you look at arizona, majority of arizonans believe abortion should be legal. we tested this a ton over the last two, three years. we polled arizona more than anyone else in the country. essentially we've seen that the dems are hammering this issue and trump is also trying to make his way into this position because he cares about one thing, most of all, and that's winning. you've seen him kind of move on this issue. but it's a smart move because, frankly, to be pro life is a minority position and that's probably a very nice way to put it. >> beyond the presidency, how much could abortion impact the races in the states, including the senate race where republican kari lake has had to clarify her stance on abortion? >> i think lake is someone that comes across as more of a true believer on abortion than trump does. some polling we recently did at the political report showed trump winning in the state of arizona, but ruben won the race. and i think it has to do with kari lake and the campaign she's running. we saw across the board, not just in arizona, but that voters were picking senate democratic candidates on the issue of abortion more than it was factoring into their vote for president. a lot of voters still don't believe, as you saw where president trump was talking there, that he's emphasizing exceptions, you look at sort of his wobbly positions on the issue before he ran for office and different things that i think you look at lake's past comments on abortion and the stances she took when she ran for governor, and i think this absolutely is a liability for her as a candidate, among other things. she is such a well-defined candidate after her run for governor, and not in a good way. the voters have very strong opinions of her, for or against. this is a race that i think has slipped down republican pick of opportunities, so absolutely in the mix. when i look at the overall senate map, you know, the national and public senatorial committee has come in with ads but we haven't seen the major super pacs reserve money as they have in other races. >> that's interesting. vaughn, tell us about where we are with efforts to get abortion on the ballot, abortion itself in arizona? >> there will be a little more than 300,000 signatures required to get that measure on the ballot. they have exceeded that at this point in terms of the signatures they'll be turning into the secretary of state's office to look at -- they're aiming at 700,000, 800,000 to ensure the fact it will, in fact, be on the ballot in november. and jessica and mike know this so well, this is where donald trump and kari lake get in this quagmire when you say, we'll send it back to the states. when the states make a decision to put something on the ballot, these individuals have a hard time directly answering that because kari lake has staked out maybe the 15-week ban abortion is more important, but she has to answer the question of whether she'll vote in november as well for the measure to codify abortion protection across the board in the state of arizona. donald trump when he campaigns in arizona, he'll be facing the same questions he'll be facing in his home state of florida, whether he's going to vote to codify abortion protections in the state of florida. saying it's a state's right only gets you so far for these republican politicians. >> right. if you're a true believer, i mean, mike you have to accept the reality that abortion access has won whenever it's been on the ballot. is there any reason to believe it would be different in arizona? >> no. you look at places like indiana or much redder states than arizona, especially georgia where the gop had a pretty coordinated effort to slide in where they thought 18 or 16-week ban would be a sweet spot with voters. at the end of the day, voters didn't care when you put pro life or pro choice, pro choice wins out. it's pretty much a losing issue for republicans. you can't see them run away fast enough from this issue. and it's a position where democrats are incredibly comfortable and they have their messaging dialed in compared to the gop. they're not only going through a bit of a reorganization period right now, there's really no top-down command. you're seeing all these different positions and they can't get on the same page when it comes to this. they try to change it and run away from this issue as fast as possible. >> jessica, you follow senate races probably closer than anybody. where are you watching, other than arizona, where you think abortion could have an impact on the senate race? >> one interesting places there could be a ballot measure in montana. this is the most vulnerable senate seat up where jon tester's seat up. every place we have seen it on the ballot, as mike mentioned, in kansas and ohio, it has gone that way and florida, nevada as well. it looks like that will be on the ballot in nevada, another key state that is crucial to deciding the senate majority. >> jessica taylor, vaughn hillyard, mike noble, great conversation. let's go to los angeles where the mayor says the violence that erupted between pro-palestinian and pro-israel protesters outside a synagogue on sunday was abhorrent. david noriega is in los angeles. what exactly happened? >> reporter: the reason there was a protest at the synagogue in the first place is because they protesting the event promoting real estate in israel. it was organized by a group in the past that has promoted property listing inside israeli settlements in the west bank. that's what protesters objected to. there are fairs hosted in synagogues. for example, in march there was one in new jersey and new york, which led to one event being canceled. yesterday things got violent. there was a group of protesters and a group of counterprotesters. the lapd said there were several physical altercations between the two groups. two official reports of battery stemming from the incident, but the los angeles police department is investigating. they made one arrest of a protester they said had what they described as a spiked pole, possibly a flagpole. that person was taken to the station, arrested and released with a ticket. the response from elected officials, both locally and at the state and national levels has been pretty unanimously condemning the initial protest as anti-semitic. we've seen tweets from governor newsom, and schiff. they are criticizing the protest taking place outside of a synagogue. the president tweeted, saying intimidating jewish congregates are anti-semitic and unconscionable. >> thank you. did donald trump just give us a preview of one of his big attack lines for the debate? 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so do you think thursday and going forward, is inflation trump's strongest line of attack? tell me what you make of the little tic-tac gag? >> that's actually taking a talking point away from joe biden, who has tried to make inflation -- tried to say, hey, don't point the finger at me, point the finger at corporate america with shrinkflation. look, the economy in general is sort of -- if the economy is front of mind for these last slice of voters, that's going to be a problem for joe biden and an asset for donald trump. that's his -- that's been the go to, the go to for a lot of challengers, even down-ballot. i expect a lion's share of conversation on that. one thing i want to step back on overall tone, we're all expecting this giant clash. one thing that i've had in the back of my mind is when you know there's going to be a second debate, you sometimes don't use your best punches in the first debate. >> oh, come on, chuck, these two guys, the feelings between them are not kum-bi-ya. >> i get all of that. and i know some that wonder, will there be a second debate? but both of these men enter this debate having to disprove stereotypes about themselves, different ways. trump has to prove he's not unhinged, biden has to prove he's fully ambulatory. in different ways, since they have their own sort of stereotypes they have to sort of push back agains -- look, i'm not saying everything could go out the window and trump could decide to make it a grievance debate and biden responds in kind and off to the races we go. i don't know, though. i feel like there's -- these stakes are so high now, that you could see two disciplined candidates on that stage thursday night. >> as chuck and i were talking, you had a remarkably effective poker face. where do you want to weigh in on this? >> i think chuck's onto something there. the people who are going to decide this election are people that don't like either of these people. if you come out and embarrass yourself with your behavior, that's not going to help you. that said, i think the most effective strategy for both of these people is to make this debate about the other one. obviously, you want to talk about the economy and connect to people's feelings and how they're perceiving the economy. usually i would say, and then tell people what you're going to do about it. here i would say, tell them how the other person is going to make it worse. i think if it's a referendum on joe biden, but the same thing could be said donald trump. this is a challenger that has his own record. joe biden can make this debate about donald trump without letting donald trump dominate the debate, i think that's his best approach doing it and remind people not just why they didn't like him the first time, but that stuff can wash over you. why you didn't like him the first time and why your life will be worse off if he is elected president. you need to connect those dots. >> there's kind of an issue, chuck, that isn't a traditional issue. it's not abortion, not inflation, not the economy, it's mental acuity that a lot of people think is really the driving force for a lot of voters. they don't like either of these guys. they think they're too old. the biden campaign put out a video on social media from trump's weekend rally and trump was rambling about water pressure and lathering hair and fox news cut him off. i want to play that for folks who missed it. >> i have this beautiful, luxuriant hair that i put stuff on. [ applause ] i put it in. lather. i like lots of lather because i like it to come out extremely dry because it seems to be slightly thicker that way. and i lather up and then you turn on this crazy shower and the thing, drip, drip. you say, i'm going to be here for 45 minutes. what the -- they put restrictors. washing machines to wash your dishes, there's a problem. they don't want you to have any water. they want no water. and i was with -- >> and you were just listening to former president trump. we're going to talk about some of the things he was discussing there. we'll be right back. >> there are many ways you could talk about that. i guess this stream of consciousness, we've seen for a long time from donald trump, that's part of his appeal, frankly, to his base. you think he can -- will rein that in for this debate and be more focused? >> look, to build on brendan's point, both candidates will try to bait the other into their worst behavior, in different ways they're going to try to bait each other. i have no doubt biden wants to bait trump into some of those, hey, what's your -- are you afraid of sharks? what's your obsession with sharks? can i tell you, this gets at what i think has been a total mistake by the left in general, which is this idea that deplatforming trump was going to make him go away. i think if you want people to decide they've had enough of trump, expose them to trump. don't hide trump from them. and i do think that he is -- one of his great strengths is he's created an alternative media ecosystem and he only created it because mainstream platforms like meta and twitter and mainstream news organizations stopped covering and carrying him. i understand there was sort of a good motivation behind it, a rationale that i understand behind it, but i think it was sort of -- i'm a believer that the best way to expose something is sunlight. and that's a reminder. the more you're exposed to trump, the more it can turn that middle of the road voter off. he's been able to hide that version of his personality from mainstream platforms for a couple of years now. >> i guess it is a key question, how much of that comes out in the debate on thursday. sometimes it's just going on about his hair or sharks, as chuck points out. but there are real issues that have been effective for him, not just the economy, but immigration. it's almost certainly going to be a big topic at this debate. over the weekend he suggested that the head of ufc should start a sports league so migrants can fight each other. let me play that. >> i have an idea for you to make a lot of money. you're going to go and start a new migrant fight league. migrants. only migrants. and then at the end of the year, the champion migrant is going to fight your champion. and i hate to tell you, i think the migrant might win. that's how tough they are. >> so, my question is, do you think that middle of the road voter, someone who truly is undecided, or people of color, migrants themselves, people who came to this country to find a better life, does that have an impact, or is all of it just trump being trumped? >> i do think it's a little bit of trump being trump. i think a lot of people just roll their eyes at that kind of stuff. we've heard it for so long. trump has been saying things like this since he ran two elections ago. this is not necessarily anything that is new and necessarily changing people's perceptions of him. so, this is the sort of debate we get stuck in. has joe biden slipped, his mental acuity slipped, has he lost a step versus look at the crazy things donald trump has said. i just think that's not a debate democrats want to have. donald trump has always said these crazy things and yet people voted for him in 2016. and he was almost ee elected in 2020. there's a dramatic change, i think, in joe biden's -- the way he presents himself. it's not a good comparison. does joe biden need to find some way to flip the script on the immigration issue? absolutely. but i don't know that joe biden wants to find himself in a position of defending his policies for an hour and a half. that is a losing recipe. he needs to find a way to turn this back on what donald trump could potentially do, and he started to do that last week with his immigration order. try to talk about the deportation force donald trump will be bringing. there's a lot of things that donald trump talks about, securing the border, but finding a way to flip that on its head is necessary. >> the debate over the debate will continue for the next couple of days and then we get to see it. thank you, guys. appreciate it. make sure to watch "chris jansing reports" thursday for special coverage ahead of the debate. i'll be live in atlanta with reporters and experts at 11:00 a.m. eastern. and then from 1:00 to 3:00, my normal hours right here on msnbc. now, also on thursday, rachel maddow and team leads special coverage and analysis of the first presidential debate, hosted by cnn. watch thursday beginning at 7:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. star sprinter sha'carri richardson is racing on to team usa after a dominant display at the u.s. olympic trials. i'll point out which runner she is, but it's obvious. she's just the fastest woman in the world right now. 100 meters in 10.71 seconds. it has been a long journey for the 24-year-old texan. she won this same race three years ago but was then stripped of her victory after testing positive for marijuana. after winning this race, she said she was honored and felt every chapter i've been through in my life prepared me for this moment. amazing run there. on the men's side, noah lyles matched his personal best time, 9.83 seconds in the 100 meters. lyles was neck and neck halfway through the race but that burst of acceleration took him straight onto the olympic team, the fastest man in america. still to come, the supreme court wades into a major culture war debate over transgender minors. what to watch for in the case 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arguments on whether it's unconstitutional for states to ban gender confirming care for minors. >> there are 22 states that currently have bans of some sort on transgender affirming care for minors. what we should know about this is this is yet another one of those questions that you would have assumed might be already decided, not because the court has heard a case on transgender care before, but because in a prior case of recent origin the court determined that discriminating against transgender individuals was akin to discriminating against them on the basis of sex in rilgs of the federal employment discrimination statute. now, that's not the same as the 14th amendment, which governs individual rights. but one could eisley analogize from that context to this that transgender discrimination and depriving people of care is discrimination on the basis of sex. so, in taking this up, you might assume that the supreme court has the desire to differentiate employment discrimination from care to minors where parents might have a bigger stake. the other thing that's important to note is just how many circuits are involved here, circuits involving circuit courts of the united states courts of appeal. of the 12 circuits that exist based on geography, six of them have some form of pending litigation about one or more transgender bans. with 22 states involved, this may be the supreme court saying, it's time to provide some clarity. indeed, that's what the biden administration asked them to do in asking them to take this case. >> i know it's tricky to predict, but if we're going to get some guidance, when might we get some guidance from the supreme court? >> we wouldn't get some guidance from the supreme court into well into next year. this is a case they're going to hear in its next term, which begins on the first monday of october. hasn't been scheduled yet for oral argument, but i would pregikt, given what's at stake here, this might be one of the most important decisions of the next term. as you and i both know from the eager anticipation of the remainder of this week, those are decisions traditionally left until the end of june for the court to decide. >> yeah, there's one hanging out there that might affect donald trump in the presidential race. we'll see if that comes through. lisa ruben, thank you. the fbi is now offering a $10,000 reward as they try to find out who was responsible for wildfires that have killed two people and destroyed more than 24,000 acres in new mexico. recent rain is helping firefighters curb those blazes. but weeks since the flames started, progress remains slow. the salt fire only 7% contained. coming up, the chilling video causing outrage among 9/11 families. what it shows when a saudi man is doing what it shows a saudi man doing in washington, d.c., before the attacks. keep it here. my secret? i'm the sweatiest person on the rugby team. but you smell fresh as a swiss spa. i know right?! it's secret outlast. it gives you 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>> there's been a lot of reporting on this over the years. in part because the 9/11 families have come together and suing the kingdom of saudi arabia, the saudi arabia government, and through that we've learned a lot of information. but there were also over 1,000 pages that were declassified in 2022 by president biden detailing and going through the investigation into 9/11. it might surprise some people that it didn't end in 2002 or 2003, and it didn't end with the 9/11 commission report came out. in fact, the investigation has been active up until at least the past several years. the records show it could even still be active now. one of the things that occurred is out of the investigation into the plane that went into the pentagon, american airlines flight 77, out of that investment spawned another investigation called operation encore. so, they've continued to do all sorts of investigative steps, but in reality, it was something that happened within the first several weeks after 9/11, the search of omar's apartment in the uk, with this video you're looking at right now was uncovered. it's a video of some length that is effectively a tour of washington, d.c. you're looking at him outside the united states capitol. that concerned some people. now some 9/11 families and representatives call it a casing video. they were basically casing the potential crime scene. that's not referred to in the documents. but what is referred to in an fbi 302 report, which i'll read from is reliable assets and other members of the san diego muslim community believe he works for the saudi intelligence service. that's contained in a number of places in these now unclassified documents. we are have a still shot is this note pad, that was allegedly found inside of his residence. it shows specifically the phrase, plane and height. in the course of the fbi's investigation, they spoke to a pilot that said, look, could you have used these mathematical calculations to determine what rate you would descend a plane into a specific target? and the pilot said, yes, there are a number of caveats with that. the individual would need to know where they were, but if you were flying at 8,000 or 10,000 feet on that day, and i know you working that day, i was living here in new york city, it was so clear the weather that day. >> beautiful day. >> you would have had 100-mile visibility which would have allowed you, according to this pilot that spoke to the fbi and these fbi documents, would have allowed you to determine if you could pick out certain waypoints within a half nautical mile of how far you were from something and how you could descend the plane. it's one of the pieces of evidence found in this sweep of this apartment, on top of the fact they believe it's a member of saudi intelligence that raises some questions. was he just a rogue member of saudi intelligence, someone sympathetic to the 9/11 hijackers and to the plot? remember, he was the person who brought al hamsi -- two of the hijackers, he helped and shepherded them through the san diego communities, and held a party of that. that video is part of the public record. that's the individual we're looking at there. is this a person operating on their own or did they have other types of connections? it's not answered here in the reports. unknown if it will ever be answered. there are individuals he was close to that the u.s. considered charging as far back as six years ago. that's obviously quite a distance from 9/11, according to the reports, that could have been a federal terrorism case here in new york city going back to 9/11 based on some information that the fbi learned. so, i think it continues to raise questions about who was involved in all of this, should there have been additional individuals charged, and it's a part of ongoing reporting we've been doing here. >> incredibly unsettling for the families as this continues. thank you. now to russia where 20 people were killed after gunmen carried out coordinated attacks on synagogues and churches. u.s. officials say the terrorists appeared to use fire bombs in the attack along with their guns. nbc correspondent danielle joins me now. what more do we know about how this attack unfolded? >> it's been described as complex and coordinated, killing 20, as you mentioned, wounding 46 people. this happened in the north caucuses, an area known to be quite volatile. predominantly muslim. islamists attacks in the past. this happened in two cities. gunmen with automatic weapons bursting into one of the churches setting the -- an icon on fire, killing a 66-year-old orthodox priest, who had been serving the church for 40 years. heavy automatic gunfire rang throughout the night. residents running for cover as plumes of smoke rising above the city. five attackers in all were shot dead. who has claimed responsibility? 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