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obstruction charge. we've got a number of reporters in place ready to go for these developments, we began in philadelphia where trump will hold the campaign rally tonight. i know it's going to be a hot night in philly. what will the former president's message the ahead of the thursday debates? >> these folks in line are absolutely feeling the heat right now, that is not dampening the enthusiasm here, this is part of his continuing effort to reach out to black voters here in philly and this comes as he's prepping for the debate and as we are learning more about the finances and the campaign cash halls for both the biden and trump campaigns, watch. >> former president trump eroding president biden's lead in the campaign cash rates, a postconviction windfall bringing in $141 million in may for the trump campaign. it comes with the first presidential debate less than a week away. >> i'm looking forward to the debate on thursday night and we have to show that the man is mostly incompetent. >> tonight the vice president weighing in during an exclusive msnbc interview. >> i think the debate is going to make clear the contrast between our president, the current president, who works on behalf of the american people, and the former president who pretty much spends full-time fighting for himself. >> a strong performance could help win over voters like kurt, a republican who voted for haley in the gop primary. >> you voted for a candidate that wasn't in the race anymore, why? >> i felt it was important my voice was heard and to send a message that there are others out there like me that would prefer an alternative to president trump. >> haley won 20% of republican primary voters after leaving the race, the biden campaign targeting these voters while haley has endorsed trump. the question now, where did the voters go in november. >> it would be between biden and a protest vote. >> david says he's not sold on either candidate but is eager to watch. >> a nine bead -- 90 minute debate will be interesting, with no notes. >> the dnc has sent messages and brought advertising around here, there are trucks driving around with a message saying basically the former president is bad for black america, trying to get the message out as he tries to court this core group of the democratic base, alex. >> thanks for standing outside in the heat, i appreciate you even more. what do you know about all of this, allie? >> reporter: this is crunch time for the president, ahead of what is expected to be the biggest primetime moment of this election cycle so far, and the president is using some of the perks of his position to really prep for this high- stakes moment. he's hunkering down at this remote retreat of camp david to huddle with those closest in his team, to prepare for this, we know that he was asked when he left for camp david how the preps were going to go and he gave a thumbs up to the cameras as he departed but as far as what we now, these intensive sessions consist of, we know they are being led by his former chief of staff and the president is also surrounded by his closest advisors and they are preparing the president for the policy that's expected to be brought up but also, those unscripted moments, was inevitably going to be, they expect, the unscripted personal jabs from trump so all that is being factored into the preparations underway at camp david and as you heard, our colleagues had an interview with vice president harris and she talked about what she expects to be the main goal that president biden will aim to hit on the debate stage on thursday, listen. >> joe biden and this debate will make clear the contrast, you know, of the many issues in our country and our world, that are complex and nuanced, november of 2024 is binary, and when you look at the difference, i would ask people to really imagine what the world would be like on january 20th in 2025. on the one hand -- >> the biden team really sees thursday's debate as an opportunity to reach an audience of voters that really haven't been tuned into this election cycle so far, they are planning a robust rapid response team to follow along with the debate and they are also planning to send surrogates on the ground in atlanta where the debate will be held to drive home the presidents messaging even further. >> okay, thank you, for that. you can watch the rest of the vice presidents exclusive interview with mika on morning joe monday morning starting at 6:00 eastern right here on msnbc. this breaking news on the extreme heat, as millions of americans are under heat warnings and parts of the midwest and the northeast, and north carolina, temperatures will reach triple digits with the risk of dangerous rip currents along the coast. record-setting temperatures are cost -- expected across several cities. and in queens, a search is underway after two teenagers went missing off of the beach last night due to the dangerous rip tides. >> the currents are extremely dangerous. >> let's get more on the heat from george so lease in philadelphia, hey george. >> reporter: alex you might as well nickname the city he philadelphia, something you cannot be without today, water, we have plenty of it, making sure we stay hydrated and it's one of those key things that is essential, when surviving a heat wave like this. also lose the clothing and finding shade and even in the shade, you can feel the sweltering temperatures. it's been feeling like this for days, this oppressive heat, it's not just with the mercury says, it's what it feels like outside, triple digit heat, and that is a big concern for health officials which is why the cooling centers are open for anyone who doesn't have ac. lots of families taking advantage, mr. softy, making a quick buck with all of the ice cream he's selling and they will be doing a lot of that here today, ordinarily, you might see this area packed with visitors and people trying to enjoy the waterfront, not so much the case right now because people are waiting for the temperatures to dip a little bit with a little bit of cloud cover or just waiting for the heatwave to start simmering down into the early evening hours. june, by some standards was cooler, this heat came on so aggressively that we all are having a little bit of trouble acclimating to it but we are surviving but it's tough right now. we are hearing from hospitals that we are starting to see a spike in people visiting because of the heat health emergency. we are potentially looking to break a heat record this weekend so no relief in sight just yet but as one person out here told me, when it's winter we all complain it's too cold, some people attributing that to climate change but the fact of the matter is no matter how you slice it, it's hot out here so taking those precautions is necessary, staying safe, absolutely necessary, listening to your body and knowing when to call it quits, even if you are enjoying the weather, even when it's nice, that's the key thing to surviving this heatwave. >> thank you, george so lease. here's one number, 90 seconds, we will be back then. . the supreme court delivers a critical decision on gun rights, but no ruling yet on trump's claim about absolute presidential immunity delaying the january 6th trial. any new filing opposing the lifting of trump's gag order in the hush money case, it highlights violent threats against the manhattan district attorney and others involved in the trial. 89 of them in 2023, 60s in 2024. two bomb threats on the first day of the trial. so all of this while a new trump social media blast features steve bannon's threats of retribution against the last two former fbi directors. here is former attorney general eric holder. >> i'm very concerned about what the former president said he's going to do, steve bannon, what he says he's going to do and i take them at their word. i think we've learned from the first term, open investigations, use the law in ways that's inconsistent with the neutral way in which the justice department is supposed to operate. >> joining me now is joyce spence, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, and hugo low, senior political correspondent with the guardian. joyce, our trump supporters already responding to his retribution variant call? >> you know the problem with this is there is appropriate response and inappropriate response, political advocacy, always appropriate in this country but you never know when someone on the fringe will be motivated to violence by some of these words and that's the real risk that prosecutors are trying to avoid by keeping the gag order in place and hopefully imposing concern for consequences like the potential for incarceration on behalf of the former president. >> and to that point, in the hush money case, the manhattan da says that all line threats, saying people who remain unnamed in the filing should be in witness protection, choice, can any of this impact trump's sentencing on july 11th? >> it absolutely can, you know mark has indeterminate sentencing for nonviolent crimes like this, the real issue in trump's case is whether he will receive a sentence of probation or custody and sentences of probation are typically reserved for people who the judge believes that they can comply with all of the conditions of release, so this place is whether the gag order will remain in place and what other conditions might be involved in a probationary sentence. in other words if you are donald trump and you are playing smart, this is not the time to continue to threaten people. >> so hugo, i want to play a former staffer for trump talking about retribution and what she witnessed in the oval office? >> there was a meeting that he and i were both in, where trump a straight up says, a staffer who leaked a story should be executed and bill barr said i don't recall that specific incident. but there were others. >> alyssa farrah griffin said this came out more than one so this is not mental flatulence, he has given it serious thought. can a sitting president with a willing attorney general put this in motion? >> reporter: it would be interesting to see, right? we've seen and reported on trump and his allies trying to come up with what he wants to accomplish in a second term. and in the event that trump installs a sympathetic and loyal attorney general and he can just call him up and say hey i want you to prosecute these guys, i think it's possible. i also see and envision a scenario where trump goes not only do we want to prosecute them but we want to make their life miserable whether it's through the irs, we know that trump went after his political enemies, this is the sort of thing that is discussed a lot in trump world, and i think everyone should take it at face value. >> so joyce, what is the impact of the supreme court's delay on the trump immunity ruling and resulting delay in his january 6th trial, does it benefit him politically and is that something that justices would or should consider? >> it benefits him politically and legally for all of the obvious reasons, there won't be a trial before the election and that has impacts in both spheres that he is operating in, it's never appropriate for justices to rule on cases on the basis of information that doesn't involve the facts and the laws. and by the same token, it's not appropriate for a court to delay its ruling unnecessarily and here there is a tradition on the supreme court, every justice gets the time that they need to write their own opinion so you can easily imagine a scenario where there are a number of dissents and concurrences that are being drafted, and those justices are entitled to take their time but for heaven sakes, this is a situation where the case was well . before it went to the court and this notion that the delay doesn't have consequences in this particular instance, that the delay itself becomes something that is inappropriate for the court to engage in, it's difficult to shake at this point. >> politico is recording -- reporting on a rift in the supreme court seeing tony barrett and justice thomas are having a rift. could this be what is holding up the immunity decision? >> you know, possibly, i suspect that this plays less in the immunity case than it is for instance and the gun case that was decided yesterday and i'm not sure if it's really a rift because it was an 8-1 decision, only justice thomas took this absolutist view of the second amendment said, i think the problems in the immunity case are in some ways very practical, most legal scholars agree there has to be some sort of scope of immunity when they've got to make a snap decision but by the same token it's clear that president shouldn't have immunity when they engage in insurrections, so if you believe and justice course which made this point in justice sotomayor , they shouldn't have to make sweeping decorations for all time, courts are supposed to decide the issue in front of them so this court to make a decision about the scope of immunity and simply say, this is not it. we will leave for future cases where there might be a dividing line but we know a president who tries to overturn an election, they should not have immunity. >> they can find that he has no immunity or absolute immunity or they can split the decision and let judge chutkan decide which actions were done in an official capacity. but the ruling should come by the first week of july, there's no question as to whether it would be complete -- concluded by the election but could at least start? >> that's an interesting question because it depends on how the supreme court writes its opinion and how it remands the case back to the lower court. we should expect there to be a remand with instructions for a lower court to go through the indictment and take out elements that are clearly things that are protected, things like the presidents ability to fire the attorney general, you know from's lawyers argue that should be taken out. michael dreben, when he argued on behalf of the special counsel's office said that there should be some level of that. but the question is, how long this process takes to go through the indictment and strikeout, that could take weeks, and it really depends on whether we have to go line by line, i will say the justice department appears to be of the opinion that if this is expedited and goes back to judge chutkan , then there is a scenario where a trial could start in september. >> one more quick question to you hugo because you are there in florida covering the classified documents case, judge cannon is hearing five pretrial motions over three days and you have an exclusive report on one of those hearings, what is going on there? >> reporter: so the majority of these hearings yesterday and through the next week has to do with the appointment of the special counsel and whether that was done unlawfully. our reporting is for the tuesday hearing which will be conducted under seal. the reason why this is significant is because the notes form a key part of the obstruction case. you go back to the indictment, you see that the justice department put all of these things back, and i think the form is important evidence of trump having the obstructive intent. >> hugo lowell, joyce vance, thank you . the new details we are learning about a story that shouldn't have happened, but did. but did. ♪♪ chewy, a citi client, uses citi's financial expertise to help drive its growth and keep its supply chain moving, so more pet parents can get everything they need... right when they need it. keeping more pets, and families, happy. ♪♪ for the love of moving our clients forward. for the love of progress. try killing bugs the worry-free way. not the other way. zevo traps use light to attract and trap flying insects with no odor and no mess. they work continuously, so you don't have to. zevo. people-friendly. bug-deadly. 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