good morning and welcome to the saturday edition of "morning joe weekend." it was a really busy week. let's get to some of the conversations you may have missed. gag order in donald trump's hush money case is an effect, but his attorney said, they will keep fighting to get it thrown out. that comes after new york's top court declined to hear trump's appeal of the matter earlier this week. the state court appealed trump's thing, there was no constitutional grounds for the appeal. that leaves the gag order imposed by judge juan mershon in place meaning, he could still face penalties in place for violating it. the order bars trump from going after witnesses, jurors, and others who were involved in the case. following his felony conviction last month, the sentencing is scheduled for july 11th. so, i guess first of all, do you expect this gag order to be put back before the sentencing? i don't, but maybe there is reason for it. and then, what do you expect for the sentencing? >> i think the gag order will remain in place. da bragg has asked for you to stay in place, at least through the sentencing. as far as his penalty, i think in this case, typically first- time offender in this low level class a felony he will get probation, but trump has shown no remorse. it is quite the opposite. in fact, he has bashed the judge, the judge's family, prosecutors, he has continued to show contempt for the whole process. he has violated the court's gag order 10 times. a defendant who normally does that would get to think about his actions behind steel bars. i still don't think that will happen here, because, trump has not been punished with anything beyond a fine for his 10 violations of a gag order, so why would we think that judge merchan would give him an incarceration? maybe he will get some house arrest at mar-a-lago, but he will not be wearing an orange jumpsuit anytime soon. zygmunt lisa, let's take this to you. be on the gag order, we are now less than a month until we get to his sentencing, july 11th, just before the republican national convention. from what you know of the case, drawing upon your experience, we understand every case is different, but what should we expect in terms of a sentencing? >> i actually am going to have to disagree with dave here, i think there is a possibility trump gives some form of incarceration. that incarceration, because of some logistical issues, could come in the form of something like a house arrest, not traditional incarcerates were setting. but, i think given the lack of remorse, there are a number of violations of the gag order that have not been brought to judge merchan's attention, but happen on journalists ' watch during the trial that the district attorney office may have made the decision it was not worth it to bring it to the judge's attention. they wanted to see the trial completed, they wanted a verdict. that is not me they will not go to him during sentencing and say, look at all these other things he did, look at all these other things he said, he does not take your word seriously. nothing short of incarceration will be enough to get this guy to stop. >> so, lisa, you were in there and you watch this every step of the way and covered every detail for us, i am just curious, does donald trump, defendant, scene, act, talk like someone who wants to avoid jail time? i'm just curious if he thinks it would even be politically helpful? >> i think he thinks it might be politically helpful. certainly, mika, the reporting has been that he wants to avoid jail at all costs me that he is very much scared of anything approaching incarceration, but from a political perspective, he believes that is political gold for him. if you look at messaging during the trial and thereafter, he is definitely trying to rile up his face with the possibility of some form of term of incarceration and in terms of how he is talking, he is continuing to push a narrative that, as i have written and others have, is extraordinarily dangerous, tying the current president to the prosecution in manhattan, by somehow alleging that the biden administration, specifically the department of justice, was fully manhattan da alvin bragg's dreams, how, through a career civil litigator who was a part of the da's team, but certainly not its head, for a variety of reasons, that narrative makes no sense. it is factually false and also dangerously and perniciously racist, because it assumes that da alvin bragg, who is black, could not have executed this prosecution on his own, without the supervision of a bunch of white elders. >> and lewis, i would try and ask for historical parallels, but are there any? i don't think there are. i'm curious what the view from across the pond is on this i mean, it feels like, and i know we live in a little of a media echo chamber and we read what everybody writes, but it feels like this trial, you know, was not like some of the trials of the century that we have watched in the past, and yet, it should have been. is it the same around the world ? how are they looking at this former president, convicted, found guilty on 34 felony counts , and by the way, the evidence proving this hush money payment , by the way, to a star , that he had an affair with while his wife was pregnant, those are details, but it is out there. is there any reaction around the world that is a little bit more, perhaps, i don't know, specific to the moment than what we have seen here in the united states? >> i mean, to answer your first question, mika, is there any possible president historically for a former president, and possibly future one, tried over hush money with a former star , breaking a gag order, an offense potentially 10 times, potentially facing some form of incarceration, that is, i think, sweet generous, as they say, unique, parallel. the rest of the world, we have had presidents put in jail. we have had government leaders put in jail for corruption in other countries. we've had it in israel, south korea, brazil, a couple of times, we've had it various sort of high level criminal trials of political leaders in france. it is not that unusual to see this happening, because that is how the system works. the world looks to america as the first country that said, no man is above the law. the lord reigns supreme. that is what america is known for as a beacon for that. so, i think america would be catching up with the world, if trump went to one of his real trials. >> that is a shame. msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin and state attorney for palm beach county ehrenberg, thank you very much for your analysis and insight this morning. we have lots more to get to this hour. 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[ chuckling ] [ speaking minionese ] joining us now, we have democratic senator, jackie rosen of nevada. >> now, reproductive rights advocates are in her state, working to get an amendment on the ballot this november that if passed, would enshrine the abortion rights in nevada constitution. thank you for being on with us this morning. first of all, how is that effort going? >> mika, thank you for having me on this morning. that effort is going really well . we expect it will be on the ballot. and i can tell you that nevada is one of the most pro-choice states in the nation. we already have enshrined a choice in statute we want to put it in the constitution to make it even stronger. make no mistake, since they overturned roe, we know the consequences of what has been happening all across this country, the attack on women's freedom of the attack on women's rights, and we saw just this last week in the senate, that my republican colleagues would not support access to contraception or reproductive assistance. if they institute something like a nationwide abortion ban, this won't even matter. that is why it is really important for us to keep a democratic senate pro-choice majority, one that wants to protect women's' freedom to protect our values, not have women dying in emergency rooms parking lots because they can get the care they need and being able to get the contraception they need so they can start a family when, and where, and how they want to. >> do you know what the breakdown is in your state in terms of support for abortion rights? >> i would say it is well over 70%. we are a very pro-choice state. women really come out for this. i will tell you, this goes across all generations, women and men, from young to old, because you see it even as a parent, when my daughter eventually wants to have children i want her to be able to have all the choices available to her, it is not just about women, it is about everybody, and their freedom. >> so, i am curious what you can say to that 30%? because i think what helps clinch this is, it's not just about pregnancy. now, make no mistake, pregnancies in many states across america are more dangerous, and life-threatening because of the fall of roe, but abortion healthcare is not just for the pregnant. could you explain that argument , because i think that is what appeals to that 30%. >> i can tell you that, what people don't realize, and when you talk to obstetricians, and you talk to women and you have seen them come out all across the country, we have women in nevada telling their stories that they have had much wanted pregnancies, and something goes wrong and they have had a miscarriage, and they go to the hospital, you call your doctor, something is wrong, and they say, go straight to the emergency room, and they go there, and the doors are closed to them. doors are closed to pregnant women in emergency rooms across this country, while they are busy calling lawmakers to decide what to do. i don't want any of my opponents, i don't want sam greg brown in my doctor's office, i don't want his picture or mitch mcconnell's picture in my room, scaring doctors to giving healthcare. this is how i want to talk to people about that. that emergency could be you or someone you know and love. of course, contraception, people don't like to think about this, but if you have cancer, and chronic disease, many other reasons women take contraception. the access to that is so important. and of course, reproductive technology, when you want to start a family, that has helped 70 people. this is really important, all of this. this war on women, the war on our freedom, were on our ability to travel, perhaps, taking all of that away is unacceptable. and the maga extremists, like sam brown and all of my colleagues here in the senate, they are rated waging a war. i want to tell everyone, if they share my democratic values on this, go to rosenfornevada.com to join us. >> our topic, the supreme court recently overturned a ban on bump stocks that have been put into place in the wake of the nation's largest mass shooting, the shooting that took lace in your state of nevada at the is a festival a few years ago. i want to get a further response to what the supreme court did, but also, respond to the defense that some republican senators, mainly jb vance, have put in place same, they agree with what the supreme court did, despite broadly, brought me popular support for the ban. >> i say, shame on jade events, and anyone that disrespects the dead. let them come to nevada and see what someone who wanted to be a cold-blooded murderer executioner, planned and plotted this, and bought stocks just so he could do the most damage in the shortest amount of time. so when he opened fire from that hotel room, there were 20,000 people on a beautiful day that had come to las vegas in october, the weather is fabulous, they wanted to go to a concert, 20,000 people there. he opened fire with an unimaginable amount of bullets and carnage in a matter of minutes, murdering 60, injuring hundreds, traumatizing those 20,000, and our hotel workers, and all of our first responders who were there, helping, trying to get through this mass carnage . i can tell you, anyone who disrespects that, come to nevada, i'm going to show them. this isn't fake. and this was donald trump saw that, he put his ban, and they were all for it before, not sure why they are against it now, but we have an obligation to keep people safe. that is what is most important and i say, shame on anyone who disrespects the dead. >> democratic senator jackie rosen of nevada, inc. you very much for coming on the show this morning. really appreciate it. absolutely. coming up, house minority leader hakeem jeffries will talk about what the democrats are doing to try to flood the house with less than five months until the election. you're watching "morning joe weekend." joe weekend." with nurtec odt, i found relief. the 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