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and in just a couple of hours, house speaker mike johnson is going to be meeting with the presumptive gop nominee, former president trump at mar-a-lago as part of trump's efforts to rally republican support and unite his party. meanwhile, president biden attended a star-studded hollywood fundraiser over the weekend where his campaign says it raised over $30 million. at the event, the president was asked what another trump administration would mean for the nation's highest court. >> the next president is likely to have two new supreme court nominees, two more, two more. he's already appointed two that have been very negative in terms of the rights of individuals. the idea that if he's reelected he's going to appoint two more flags upside down is really -- i really mean it. >> joining us now nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard and nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor. so vaughn, trump and speaker johnson met just last week in d.c. what do we know about today's meeting? >> right, this is a mutual interest relationship for both of these men here. house republicans are holding on to a razor thin majority, and with just four and a half months not only if the presidential election, but also those very house seats being up for grabs, it is going to be crucial, if donald trump were to win this election in november to have a republican majority and maintain that republican majority in the u.s. house. that is why here within about the next two hours, we expect speaker mike johnson as well as the chair of the nrcc to meet with donald trump, the presumptive republican nominee at his mar-a-lago estate. you noted not only did donald trump travel to d.c. to meet with speaker johnson and house republicans behind closed doors last week, but also two months ago you'll recall that speaker johnson made the trek down to florida and ended up holding a press conference along donald trump's side. that was coming around the time the congresswoman marjorie taylor greene was threatening to go forward with a motion to vacate and remove johnson from the speakership. much like what happened with kevin mccarthy just a few months before that, and ultimately you saw donald trump come out in solidarity with mike johnson, and he has stood by him over the last two months since, and as a result you have seen speaker johnson suggest that the u.s. supreme court should intervene in the appeals process to overturn his guilty verdict stemming from the new york criminal trial. you of course saw speaker johnson travel to lower manhattan and go inside of that courtroom and come out and address cameras and call this a political persecution of donald trump, but you've also seen in return two key allies of donald trump be placed just last week on the house intelligence committee, and you have seen mike johnson also help push back against key immigration reforms at donald trump's request, and so for these two men they have clearly decided to work in tandem over the course of the next four and a half months to pursue what they believe is the best path forward for winning not only republican majorities in the congress but also to take back the white house, jose. >> and yamiche, meanwhile, president biden is taking aim at trump's legal troubles in a new $50 million ad campaign calling trump a convicted felon. what's behind this? >> what you really see here is the biden campaign trying to lean in in contrast with what they see as the character flaws of donald trump with the accomplishments of president biden, and in ad it's really interesting, they don't just talk about the 34 convictions, the felony convictions that of course made former president trump the first former president to be convicted after a criminal trial, they also lean in on the idea that he's been found liable of sexual assault, and they've also leaned into the idea that he also has committed financial fraud. so this is really an all-out look at donald trump's legal problems and then of course the ad leans in and president biden has accomplish add lot. especially on the economic front. in talking to voters, it sort of goes to what voters who are picking president biden or independents who are leaning towards president biden talk about when they talk about the choices they're making. most of the time when i talk to voters, especially the ones that aren't really excited about this rematch, they go to the fact that while donald trump is not somebody they can vote for, if they are leaning towards biden they think he has so many flaws in his past. so this ad really gets at that too. >> and yamiche, you saw new reporting with exclusive details about the biden campaign's plan to focus on reproductive rights heading into the election. what did you learn? >> that's right, i got exclusive details on what the biden campaign is going to be doing before and on the anniversary of the dobbs decision, which of course was the supreme court decision that overturned roe v. wade and revoked the federal right to abortion. they're going to be holding something like 30 events around the country focusing on battleground cities. they're also going to be rolling out new ads featuring personal stories of women who have had adverse effects because of the changing abortion laws. in particular, they're also going to be having story telling training. they're going to be not just telling stories of women but empowering women to tell other stories that may not have been told about how they've been impacted by these health issues related to abortions or miscarriages. it's also interesting, i talked to a woman named caitlin cash who had to flee the state of texas. she told me she had to flee the state because she needed to get an abortion because she had a fatal birth defect. she really wants federal protection here and thinks that women in hearing her story and learning how to find their own voices that that will help elect joe biden. we should also note that donald trump has said he wants to leave this issue to the states. the biden campaign in this messaging push is going to say that really he can't be trusted and that if reelected, he would enact a national abortion ban, jose. >> vaughn hillyard and yamiche alcindor, thank you both very much. joining us with more is victoria defrancesco soto, the dean of the clinton school of public service at the university of arkansas. she is an msnbc contributor, and tim miller, writer at large at the bulwark and former communications director for jeb bush's 2016 campaign. he is an msnbc political analyst, so victoria, the issue of reproductive rights is now expanded beyond just abortion, things like ivf and contraception are now part of the national political debate. how big of a role do you think had is going to play in november? >> i think it's going to play a huge role, jose. in terms of abortion, we know that, you know, a clear majority of americans support a woman's right to an abortion, but when you start looking at ivf in particular, that majority grows to a super majority. you have rates of, you know, 85 to 90% of folks stating that ivf should be allowed. so when you think about that difference of the 20%, the 15% of folks who may be leaning a little bit more pro-life, but when it comes to thinking about, well, access to conception, access to ivf, you know what, i'm going to perk up at this point. i think that that's really important in terms of mobilizing folks who otherwise would not have been mobilized just with the core piece of allowing for reproductive rights in terms of abortion access. >> and tim, it was interesting that in that campaign, you know, fundraiser that the president had over the weekend in los angeles, we heard the president talk about what's on the line this november in terms of the supreme court. it was clearly a question asked during this event. how much do you think the supreme court could play a part, same question to victoria about reproductive rights, but on the supreme court issue? >> i think that the democrats have to make it become a big issue. look, this is back when i was doing republican campaigns, this was core to republican messaging. it was core to trump's campaign in 2016, which obviously i didn't support. it was core to romney and bush, '4 and 2000. this notion that it is important to advance conservative principles through the courts. it was a way that these republicans mobilized them. historically the democrats have not been quite as focused on that. i think the overturn of roe and the dobbs decision could potentially change that. we've seen some of that in the midterms. i've noticed that president biden for the first time took a little dig at samuel alito for the upside down american flag. he hadn't weighed in on that before. i think it's good for him to do so. i think the democrats should take back this mantle of patriotism and talk about how it's the republicans that have been trying to overturn the system and it's republicans that are, you know, debasing the american flag, and i also think that democrats, it should be a key argument to their progressive base, not so much to the swing voters, but to the progressive base that might be upset with biden about gaza and other issues that like this election is too important for the future of the supreme court for them to take a pass, and for them to vote third degree just because of the stakes when it comes to abortion rights and other issues before the court. >> and victoria, former president trump campaigned in detroit over the weekend, once again attacking immigrants accusing them of taking people's jobs away. what do you make of that? is that something that he's -- you know, 2015 that's what he started with. do you think that he thinks this is an effective line everywhere? >> it worked for him in his first presidential run, but beyond that, jose, he's taking a historical note that immigrants has always been regrettably an effective mechanism. why, it cues fear, anxiety, you think about your own livelihood being threatened by those newcomers. those different people. so this has gone back to the late 1700s, and trump has been especially adept at using it. but the deal is and what democrats need to push forward is that we have record low unemployment and in addition to that, we need immigration. we are not reproducing ourselves in this country. our birthrate keeps going down and down and down. we're not going to be able to sustain our social security system. we're not going to be able to take care of our older generation. so really we need to see a proactive flip on immigration. it's not something that threatens you. it's actually something that's going to enrich your life and make for a more robust american experience. >> and tim, i mean, you know the republicans have been very effective in using the issue of, for example, asylum and immigration in these last couple of years against the president and democrats. as early as tomorrow, president biden is expected to unveil a new executive action that would protect about 500,000 undocumented spouses from deportations. do you think this could be a solid thing that could help the president? >> you know, i think it might be a little late for the president on the executive actions. i'm happy that he's been doing them, but to me, putting my old campaign strategist hat back on, i'd like to see the democrats go more on offense on the threat of trump in a second term and what the mass deportation regime would look like, and what these camps that they have discussed would look like. i think that americans, i think victoria's absolutely right. you know, scapegoating immigrants is something that has worked for politicians in the past. you've got to fight fire with fire, and i think that right now president biden isn't at the numbers he's traditionally been with latino voters, and i think that maybe an ad campaign talking about these jack booted thugs coming into quinceaneras and coming into neighborhoods deporting people, the american people want to secure the borders. i think the democrats need to paint a a picture of what that will look like. use trump's own words where he says you might have to get rid of some mothers who are sympathetic who may or may not have done anything. trump said that. i think that the democrats need to go on offense on this as well as in addition to the executive orders. >> victoria defrancesco soto and tim miller, thank you both so very much. appreciate it. up next, a new phase of israel's operation in rafah is underway as the war cabinet there comes to an end. plus, an international summit for peace in ukraine ends with almost 80 countries signing an agreement, but two major players were not there. and here at home, more than 70 million people under threat of extreme heat, what you need to know next. we're back in 90 seconds. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports on msnbc. s c (aaron) i own a lot of businesses... so i wear a lot of hats. my restaurants, my tattoo shop... and i also have a non-profit. but no matter what business i'm in... my network and my tech need to keep up. thank you verizon business. 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>> well, jose, for the last eight months, the israeli war cabinet has been managing not just the war effort, but most of the major decisions inside of this country, and you'll remember, jose, it was something of a team of rivals. prime minister benjamin netanyahu's political opponents from the center grounds agreed to join the israeli government one week after the october 7th attack in a sort of sign of recognition of the national emergency that israel was facing, but last week those centrists led by benny gantz resigned from the israeli government with some pretty harsh words for the prime minister saying that he was playing politics with the war, that he was failing to plan for the future of gaza and so today, prime minister netanyahu is dissolving the war cabinet saying it was only ever a temporary body designed to create the space for those political rivals to work together. what is notable, jose, is that he has decided to scrap the war cabinet altogether, rather than allow the far right cabinet min ministers who sit in his government to join it. it is likely going forward decision-making will be concentrated in prime minister netanyahu and the israeli defense minister who is on the right but is a relative moderate, and those same far right cabinet ministers today are absolutely blasting the israeli military for this decision to suspend fighting for 11 hours every day in the area near the kerem shalom crossing in order to get more humanitarian aid into gaza. the far right national security minister saying the fool who made that decision should not be allowed to keep their job. now, netanyahu according to an israeli official speaking anonymously apparently only found out about this decision on sunday and apparently believes that it is unacceptable. the prime minister's office saying that the fighting will continue in rafah in other areas, but this pause in the eastern part of the area will continue. jose. >> raf sanchez in tel aviv, thank you so very much. we are also following several developments in russia's war against ukraine at this hour. just this morning, we've learned russia's vladimir putin will be heading to north korea tomorrow for a two-day visit. the trip comes after this weekend's conference in switzerland where 80 countries called for the territorial integrity of ukraine to be the basis for any peace agreement to end the war. additionally, vice president harris held a bilateral meeting with ukrainian president zelenskyy at the conference announcing more than $1.5 billion for ukraine. nbc's chief foreign correspondent, richard engel is in kyiv this morning. richard, thank you. i'm just wondering what impact do you think these developments at the swiss conference could have in helping ukraine? >> reporter: so they got some extra money, and they received quite a bit of international support in solidarity. this was really the west's response to vladimir putin's proposal that the way to end the war is ukraine to give up four provinces, very large provinces, about the size of american states plus crimea. if you remember last week, that's what vladimir putin did in a kind of offhanded way. he spoke to diplomats, foreign diplomats, russian diplomats at the foreign ministry and said that going forward, that should be russia's official position, that the way to end the war is for the border region between ukraine and russia to be given to russia permanently and for that area to be demilitarize z. then just a few days later, we had this conference at a resort in switzerland, and as you said, 80 countries led by the united states and of course switzerland as the host. we're talking about parameters for peace. this wasn't a peace conference, and they said that the parameters must be based on ukraine's territorial integrity. they didn't get very specific. that doesn't rule out that in a future peace deal that ukraine might have to give up some land, but they're trying to base it on this principal that ukraine remains as an autonomous country, it can defend itself, it can sustain itself, it can deter russia, and its territorial integrity should be preserved. but we'll see if it does have to have some compromises when a -- if and when there's ever a real peace negotiation with russia and china likely present to get down to the nitty-gritty so to speak. >> and richard, what do we know about putin's two-day trip to north korea? >> that is very interesting. so a year ago it was kim jong-un who went to russia and he went on his train and actually stayed on an extended trip visiting russian military facilities, and russia needs help to continue its war in ukraine. it has been looking to north korea mostly to supply artillery shells because north korea doesn't make very much, doesn't make a lot of food, has periods of mass starvation, but it is a highly militarized society, and it produces a lot of artillery shells and a lot of soviet era artillery shells that fit right into russian weapons, and that has been something that the ukrainians have been dealing with because the ukrainians have soviet era weapons, and they also have nato weapons, and nato weapo

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