months away but donald trump has already begun his campaign to undermine the results of this year's presidential race. he has started to sow seeds of doubt about the integrity of the election that hasn't happened yet. during the speech last night at an event hosted by turning point usa, he even appeared to cast doubt on the entire electoral system. >> when i go to california, we have 100,000 people show up. i said why are we losing california? why would we lose it? it is so corrupt. the whole election process. >> setting aside for the moment this insidious lie about the electoral process, in the event that twice impeached recently convicted ex-president trump does when ski in november, conservatives already have a very well thought out plan ready to implement on january 20 of 2025. it is known as project 2025 and it's a 920 page playbook spearheaded by the heritage foundation that includes plans that a second trump administration could implement on day one. it primarily seeks to consolidate power within the presidency and overhaul the federal government. the department of justice which ordinarily operates independently would be placed under direct presidential control. chilling. trump promises to immediately cracked down on immigration and that could also be accomplished with project 2025's proposals to expand the powers of executive agencies like the department of homeland security. other project 2025 does not call for a nationwide ban on abortion, it does include plans for a trump doj to renew enforcement of the comstock act. it's a victorian era law that prohibits the distribution of so-called obscene articles. this victorian era law could be repurposed to limit access to abortion pills like mifepristone. that's the same pill that just this week the supreme court ruled could remain on the market, for now. project 2025 is not just a fringe movement on the right. the heritage foundation tells that already has 100 coalition partners of right-wing groups that have signed on to be part of its advisory board. that includes groups like moms for liberty. so-called parents rights group that has led efforts to ban books and schools. it also includes prominent antiabortion groups like the susan b. anthony pro-life america and turning point usa. the group that gave trump such a warm welcome in detroit last night. joining me to discuss all of this is representative stacey plaskett of the u.s. virgin islands. she is a top democrat on the house select subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government. she previously served as a house manager for donald trump's second impeachment trial. welcome, presented a. >> thank you for having me and thank you and happy father's day to everyone out there. >> i want to talk about this effort outlined in project 25 playbook that would place the doj under the control of the president. this sounds like the kind of thing the weaponization committees has the committee been working on this? has it been a productive month getting together a plan to counteract what project 2025 is proposing? >> definitely not. jim jordan has no desire to be engaged in discussions about anything which might touch on the presidency of donald trump, pastor gut forbid, a future one. this week i will be sending him as the ranking member, a request for a hearing on project 2025 because of the overreach that this project proposes to the american democratic system at all levels. you talk about the department of justice and ensuring the department of justice is not, in fact, becomes an arm of the presidency. moving the fbi director from the 10 year term to one in which each president is the one who appoints this individual. having loyalty tests for individuals entering the federal government. taking civil servants at will employees so that they must, in fact, been to the will of the president. that is the weaponization of our federal government to really follow a fringe movement within america, that christian nationalist, hyper- conservative theorists and former donald trump loyalists. all of whom are pushing this project 2025. >> so, you said that the chair of the weaponization of the federal government committee jim jordan has not been focused on this. i want to turn your attention to what he has been focused on. he recently asked manhattan district attorney alvin bragg who led the case in which donald trump was recently convicted to testify before your committee. i should note for our viewers that alvin bragg is not a federal officer. is the manhattan district attorney so a local prosecutor. it seems outside the camp it of the committee but he said he's willing to testify and will do so at a later date. do you support holding this hearing is within the charge of the subcommittee? >> i think it's a waste of time for the weaponization committee. let's be clear. the entire committee is a waste of time because the chair is only interested in following the whims of steve bannon, fox news, and in fact, donald trump. we know trump has told the speaker, mike johnson, to do what he can to overturn his conviction which congress should have absolutely no authority over. the president has asked through his emissaries and i'm sure to jim jordan himself to do what he can to advance his agenda. that is all jim jordan has been interested in. when suggestions have been made to have balance, to talk about weaponization that may be occurring with disproportionately, black taxpayers and out two 2025, there's absolute silence from the republican side. >> let's talk a little about project 2025. the proposals and project 2025 would consolidate government authority in the office of the president rendering the president unaccountable to ordinary checks and balances. you famously served as an impeachment manager for the second trump impeachment. can you say a little more about the whole idea of holding these individuals accountable whether it's a former president, future president, how has the fact that donald trump has been convicted of a felony that remains unrepentant about almost everything. what do you make of that and how are we to hold him or any other future president accountable going forward? >> i am grateful to district attorney's, attorney general's in the states that are doing their job, who are removing themselves from the pressure that donald trump and his minions are pushing on unfortunately many of my colleagues in the house as well as in the other chamber in the senate. ensuring that no one is above the law. i look at individuals like special prosecutor jack smith as well who is doing what he can to ensure that the laws of our country are followed. of course, let's look at the complete difference in mindset between president biden and how he has treated the judiciary and trump and how he has. president biden has not been indicted, not been convicted of anything. his son has had a guilty verdict and said let the courts do what they are supposed to do. i am not going to get myself involved in that. it's inappropriate for the executive branch, and we see trump doing the exact opposite. >> cannot ask about president biden? mentioned his respect for the rule of law and the vertex of the core. he is still trailing in the polls. it's a close race according to polls. what does -- what can president biden do to pull ahead and make clear those differences between his administration and this new perspective trump administration? >> i think president biden is doing what he is supposed to be doing which is leading the country. showing the empathy and the care he has and the concern for every american, putting that message across. i think it is for us and the media to show the start difference. my clarion call particularly to my constituency and to black americans is you need to look at project 2025 and see the stark difference that the presidents have for our people. for women, for lgbtq, and even for black people, removing affirmative actions, project 2025 dismantles diversity, equity, and inclusion. dismantles rights for lgbtq as well as women's reproductive rights. those are the things we as surrogates, individuals, need to make the american people aware of. i think the polls will do what they are going to do, but americans will vote how they need to vote. >> that is representative stacey plaskett of the u.s. virgin islands. thank you so much. coming up next. donald trump just launched a new coalition aimed at winning over black voters. this is trump we're talking about. this news is being punctuated with pronouncements about how extremely not racist he is. gullet the united states of texas louisiana and mississippi. we will take a deep dive into the outsized roles of the most conservative appellate court and how it became a virtual clearinghouse for the same right-wing french legal theories that are now shaping policy across the entire country. supreme court justice samuel alito has been under fire for asserting that america needs to return to a place of godliness. that's just the latest in a broader embrace of christian nationalism and u.s. politics. all of this up next on velshi. velshi. 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>> thank you. let me say about christian nationalism is it's a belief that the founders and framers wanted this to be a christian nation, but more than that, what white christian nationalism is saying they want white people to be in power. they are the ones who have the true christianity and if you see to what they want, especially white male leadership, then the country will be saved. the country will be in the right hands. part of this has to do a lot with our history. i talk about this in my book about how white evangelicals especially thought they were the ones who were able to bring gut into this nation. when you hear talk from people like the speaker of the house mike johnson and others talking about america as a christian nation, with they are also saying is they want white men to be part of that leadership in this christian nation. >> christian nationalists and those who subscribe to that ideology are a minority of the country. they are nonetheless a significant minority and we are seeing more people in real positions of prominence and power embracing christian nationalist values. we showed the clips from barker, donald trump. how have christian nationalists managed to infiltrate political thought? >> i think one of the things we need to realize is they've always been here. even the 1970s with the rise of the moral majority, ronald reagan who played a lot to evangelicals and others. this rise of christian nationalism that seems surprising to people has always been here. we've had people to think about the nation as being a theocracy. here is the interesting point about right now. we are hearing more talk about this because donald trump himself said he will give christians power. he wants to give evangelicals power in this nation. let me give an example. we had the texas gop convention a few weeks ago and there was lots of christian nationalism talk . how america needed to be a christian nation and they would bring gut back in the country. we can see this through book banning all the other things. think about the fall of roe, the mifepristone decision this week although we still get the pill. this is an ongoing project by christian nationalists to turn this country into a theocratic state first of all and secondarily to make everyone else live under their moral codes wh