>> and ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. >> president biden has support for the people of ukraine and is unwavering. we support ukraine come not out of charity but because the people of ukraine and their future is an our strategic interest. >> although these talks are happening thousands of miles apart, the goal is singular. assuring key european allies at the united states is a reliable partner for joining us now is former january 6th select committee senior advisor and former congressman denver winkleman and w spokesperson julian porter. >> good morning. you have the vice president narrating for the world actually and where the administration is going and what the next important steps are about and putting money on the table, additional dollars on the table. how does that affect these talks more broadly? and move the needle specifically here in the u.s. as everything is such a battle when it comes to ukraine and even with issues in israel? the administration still seems to have a plan they are executing and pushing on. truth be told, it does have some traction with folks at least in europe and in the talks themselves. >> number one, thank you for having me. i will say that what the vice president is doing and what the president did at the heels of the g7 just underscores unwavering support for ukraine and we know that protecting ukrainian security is undermining. it is very clear we need to support their territorial integrity and it is important for our partners in eu to do the same. >> especially because it is not just about ukraine, congressman. it is about the global order. i want to take a listen to what vice president harris had to say about additional funding for ukraine on saturday. >> today, i'm pleased to announce that united states will provide more than 1. $5 billion to address ukraine's humanitarian and energy needs. president volodymyr zelenskyy, the support is a demonstration of the fact, the indisputable fact that the united states stands with the people of ukraine. >> congressman, i want you to talk about two things. one, the ways in which this is bigger than ukraine. an investment in ukraine, yes but also an investment and democracy at large. and the reality that was undeniably in the room as the vice president was having the meeting which is, the ability all of all of these plans and agreements to move forward hangs in the balance of this presidential election. everything is tenuous at best. >> it does. and happy father's day, mr. steel. you are looking dashing. when you talk about the investments in other countries and if we don't support nato, or we don't support individuals who are on the edge of nato like ukraine, who is being invaded by a threatening force, i think we are in real trouble. 1999, i went to the romanian border with serbia when romania was pre-nato. i will remember the excitement of americans being there and i think that stability has not projected. i think the vice president did a great job doing that. and i'm stunned. if we went to the republican party in the early two thousands, even when michael was there, i don't think you would have any gop against an ukraine aid even if trump was about to be elected in november. for me, it is almost a head exploding thing that we are even having this debate about what will happen after november. >> let's just referring. part of the reason the debate exists is because of the erosion of the party by not just the man who himself is going to be the republican nominee donald trump, but the apparatus of the republican party, apparatus that has propped him up and continues to a spouse the lies. it is unfounded. when you were at the u.n. as the spokesperson, spokesperson of the u.n., ambassador for greenfield, did the people think we were crazy? it seems as though it is very hard to read. if i'm france or the british or just anybody else in the world looking at america, i'm giving aside eye right now because i don't know what is going on. i hear joe biden and kamala harris. it sounds good and makes me feel good. then i see donald trump on the horizon and i remember what that was. >> let's take it back to four years ago when the president was campaigning to be president with very ambitious goals. and all of our allies and partners and friends at the u.n. believe in the work and were pleased with the work ambassador greenfield is doing and that the president is doing and the vice president is doing. i will say this. we have a lot of noise and a lot of distractions. and i think we all know well that when someone shows you who they are, believe then the first time. i do believe donald trump what he says, if you were to take office again, he would remove us from nato and damage relationships with partners and allies and everything else he is doing i think they believe what they are seeing with the president. they believe what they are seeing with the vice president and they have faith in what we are doing and they want that continuity. >> to that point, believe what they say, and happy father's day to you too my friend. the words sometimes from trump make me go a little crazy. i want you to listen to what he says about solving the problem in ukraine and how he sees that happening. >> before i even arrived at the oval office shortly after we win the presidency, i will have the horrible war between russia and ukraine settled. were going to get it settled and stop the death. >> this man can barely hold himself up. i'm trying to understand, and what universe does that happen? this is the political mismatch he puts out and a lot of folks in his ecosystem buy it. but to symone's point about the global partners out there. when they hear thus, it is not instilling confidence in them. it is instilling i think more fear. what is your take? >> i think it does. and if stability is so important -- when i talked about romania before, they wanted nato. it is seen as we are the beacon. america has the ability as a stabilized force, on how to restructure. what you will see i think is that if president trump is reelected, we will have that slow decline and we might be there where america is not trusted in the world. think about the fragmentation of nato that would happen. and michael, there are a couple of things with people following him down this path. either they are completely cynical and they want to appear his talking points about ukraine or you have people that have no idea what is going to happen or don't know foreign policy. they are not particularly bright. maybe they are just stupid. i'm to the point -- i know you scratch your head about it. but i think we have a brutalization of the american psyche by people who have no idea what is going on in the world except for what they are being told by mar-a-lago. >> part of the reason i think european leaders are so nervous is that it is not just happening in the united states. we have watched the european election. we knew this was coming. 27 countries had far right parties racking up gains. that is significant. >> it is very significant. i would note that in france for example, the person -- everybody remembers marine le pen, a little trump-ish, reminded people of that rash -- the young leader that emerge from the far right party in this election was somebody young. 27, 28 years old, appealed to the young people on tiktok, different than in the united states, polished. looks like something out of gq magazine. the far right is looking different around the world and i would argue, the turning point is a young people's organization. and one of the groups was a young people's organization. the idea that young people are not -- and i'm going to use the term radicalized, people across the world being radicalized into the far right is absolutely happening. >> it is happening. and the political implications in eu are the total impetus of what is happening here. from the far right and the eu being able to the youth. in the united states, the youth are empowered and more left- leaning. they are the dutch a large part of the reason that the president became president four years ago. they have concerns today. they are still on tiktok. i would not classify them as radicalized but they are a major boding the block. >> that is the linchpin and the narrative. that is how they move the needle when they bring in the disinformation. >> we talked about this yesterday. nbc news did obtain a draft out of the summit. a joint communiqui on the peace framework in switzerland. the quote notes "we had a fruitful comprehensive and constructive exchange of various views on pathways towards a framework for a comprehensive just and lasting peace, based on international law including the united nations charter." this is a draft. very notable, what vladimir putin thought he was trying to say about peace this week. thank you very much. appreciate your time. stay with us. we have been talking about campaigns. >> some politics. >> and we have a massive fundraising hall for president joe biden. and later we will talk to angela alsobrooks. she will join the table. you are watching the weekend! chase freedom unlimited. so, if you're off the racking... ...or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack. switch to a king suite- or book a silent retreat. silent retreat? 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>> the former congresswoman from virginia is back with us. >> we just describe the meandering meeting on friday. take a listen. >> i will say that i was surprised. i spoke to a number of ceos who i would say walked into the meeting being trump supporter -ish or so they might be leaning in that direction saying he was meandering and could not keep a straight thought and was all over the map and maybe not surprising. what is interesting to me is these are people who i think might have been predisposed to him. >> i encourage people to read the cnbc article on this. the ceos who were in the meeting with donald trump came out saying that not only was he meandering but in the cnbc reporting come they note he was unable to detail how any of his policies were going to be accomplished and he did not know what he was talking about. these are quotes from ceos. does not sound like a great business man to me. does this mean the folks will turn away from him? i did not hear anyone saying, i don't think i will be voting for donald trump anymore. >> if they were already predisposed to support him, what are they thinking anyway? i'm not quite sure what you are thinking if your predisposed. what are you doing a going in their thinking you are number one. and why are we surprised? he is meandering and cannot get his faxed straight on some speeches. a couple weeks ago, he said his doctor ronnie johnson said he was cognitively perfect. but it is actually ronny jackson. somebody who cannot keep it straight. and i say the word rule because he says he wants to be a dictator through this populist xenophobic racist message. and that is what we have. somebody not policy specific and he will not surround himself with the best and brightest. we should be terrified going into a trump administration. >> let me follow up on that point to cohen for's question. tell us why in poll after poll, people think this man, donald trump is better on the economy than president biden who is bringing down inflation and bringing gas prices down and leveling up wages. >> going after corporate greed. making it easier for people to afford relationship with their banks and cutting back on fees. what is the disconnect quick not just with the ceos but average americans out there looking at this and saying, donald trump is better on the economy than this other guy biden? >> i'm going to scare all of you and get a little philosophical and i know this probably terrifies some of you on the show. i think the far right media ecosystem is so much more effective than what democrats and republicans are trying to do right now. we talk about all these platforms and x. it is facebook centric when you get to the far right or into the maga population or individuals looking at what is going on in the news today. if you think about the crop video of joe biden that was put up by the new york post and how it went viral, it is hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube when they lie like that and the far right ecosystem does those types of things. it just cascades so much better than what you are doing this morning. you are trying to present facts and data. trying to look at this in a nuanced way. there is no nuance on the right or far right. there is no new wants. it is what trump says goes. they are more dedicated to the mission. at some point, i think we need to realize and i hate to borrow from my good friend here but we have to realize that this is a political war. a war of hammer on hammer. >> to your point, the lies are not just about the economy but about the forthcoming election. i want you to take a listen to what trump had to say about election fraud at a turning point on saturday. >> in the state of california, they send out 38 million ballots. who the hell knows where they are going? 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