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do? simply put they engage in fantasy. the widely used abortion pill can stay on the market. >> a 6-3 decision, the court said that a law aimed at banning machine guns cannot include bomb stocks. former president trump back on capitol hill. >> we are republicans. >> we will choose families over felons and people over politics. donald trump's week ended the way it began with misinformation, disinformation, and lies. the former president will be taking in just a few hours to the conservative turning point usa group. he celebrated his 78th birthday with a speech before supporters where he lied about president biden's trip to the g-7 and called immigrants murderers and terrorists. this week also gave us several examples of how hypocrisy is alive and well in the gop. hunter biden was convicted on felony gun charges and republicans were whining that the doj refused to pursue more serious charges. the complaint is also weapon eyes against conservatives. meanwhile on thursday, trump returned to the scene of the crime, capitol hill. his first time since january 6. so that lawmakers could line up to kiss the ring. those who he has attacked in the past. california congressman calling out the cold programming. take a listen. just a show of hands for anyone in the room that hung out with a felon today? hey, guys, you might want to get your hands up if you are hanging out with donald trump. i don't think anyone on our side did. >> joining me now is someone who did not raise his hand. eric swallow who is a member of the homeland security committee. it's always good to have you here on the show. let's start the conversation today with hunter biden. republicans are doing mental gymnastics to keep the false narrative alive of a two-tiered justice system targeting conservatives. let's be clear. hunter biden was found guilty by the impartial jury, just like donald trump, right? >> the prosecutor in that case, for all the talks of bias against trump, the prosecutor was originally appointed by donald trump. and then hunter, who tried to plead guilty and was not able to, the president accepted the verdict. the verdict system and of the jurors were celebrated on fox news and within 24 hours, they went after alvin bragg. he is the independent prosecutor with no connection to donald trump or joe biden. and brought a case in the neighborhood where donald trump committed his crimes. donald trump as you know is allowed to participate in the selection of the jury. 12 jurors made 34 decisions and 408 times they said guilty. let's look at some of the other inconsistencies here. his stolen documents case, he is being tried by a judge that he appointed. on the issue of whether he has immunity or not, two of the justices on the court are pro- insurrection justices. his home is been flying the insurrection flag and his wife attended the january 6th rally with donald trump. there is no consistency here other than absolute fidelity to donald trump. >> this week we saw donald trump returning to capitol hill for the very first time since the insurrection. republicans were praising the presumptive nominee celebrating the unity of the party. you were there, your thoughts about trump being back in the capital that he helped deface? >> donald trump at the capital is nothing to celebrate. he incited and aimed a violent mob at the capital. hundreds of police officers were harmed, democracy barely survived. i don't believe it will survive again if he was going to fire up so many people. in a country that is armed to the teeth. stepping back here, if you are hanging out with a felon like my republican colleagues were doing, you are not helping the people who sent you to washington, d.c. to fight for you. that felon is asking to be able to do something that no other felon could do. no felon in america could have a security clearance. no felon can serve in the military, let alone preside over the military. visiting all of the countries you have to visit to be commander-in-chief. he wants to be treated differently. when it comes to your priorities, they are not going after companies that are gouging you on gas or not. they are not working to lower healthcare costs. democrats are saying that we choose families over felons. verdicts over vengeance. we are going to choose every single day as to how we settle our scores in america, voting over violence. >> another thing that congress is not doing, that the house republicans are doing, it is getting the job done for americans. what are they doing? the judiciary committee is holding hearings about if the prosecution of donald trump where they attacked the charges in the case against him was held this past week. people know, you are a former prosecutor yourself. you are a trial lawyer, how in unusual is it for the republican party to insert politics into the rule of law? >> they are calling the jurors liars. they were donald trump's neighbors and they are saying that the jurors are liars. as you know, jurors are different beasts. it does not matter what their politics are. when they go into a courtroom, more than anything, they are there to follow the law. they put aside everything else. the beauty is that they are the one part of our system. the legislative branch, the executive branch. the one part of the system where they are accountable to no one but the law. when their job is done, they disappear. the fact that they still found him guilty, 408 straight times as they made those decisions, it shows that the evidence was overwhelming. this is an attack on our constitution which they claim every day that they want to uphold. in the first part of the bill of rights is the right to a jury trial. >> the house did pass a military policy bill. they packed it with conservative prison visions targeting abortion rights. this thing is surely to die in the senate. why bother including those provisions in the first place? >> this is an extreme republican party that is attacking freedom. while we have shown is that this is a freedom election. the freedom of your body to make decisions about it. to breathe clean air and read the books that you want to read and not have the government tell you what they should be. freedom from violence in your kids classroom. financial freedom. healthcare freedom and how you decide to get healthcare and making it affordable. this is a freedom election we are going to. there is a debate. under two weeks i can promise you that as donald trump continues to ban abortion and threatened to appoint judges that will declare this war on families, joe biden will show that one party stands for freedom and the other is taking a wrecking ball to it every day. >> thinks her being here. it's good to see you. breaking news out of london today where princess kate made her first public appearance since she revealed her cancer diagnosis in march. arriving in a horse-drawn carriage with prince william and her children. celebrating the monarch's official birthday. standing side-by-side with king charles who is battling cancer on the balcony of buckingham palace. they watch a flyover from the royal air force. still to come this afternoon on the katie phang show. the latest installment on project 2025 and conservative plans to remake society from top to bottom that can take away civil rights for millions of americans. i will speak to congresswoman presley when we come back. how the supreme court decision to reverse the ban on bump stocks meaning that americans will be -- we will explain on the other side. sid. that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it's time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. old spice gentleman's super hydration body wash. 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(kev) whatchu gonna ask me about next, man? practice? the supreme court handed down two big decisions this week on life or death issues. on friday, the conservative majority overturned of the trumpet era ban on bump stocks that allows a rifle to fire more rapidly. connecting the band in 2017. the deadliest shooting in united states history. able to fire over 1000 rounds because he had used bump stocks to transform his legal rifle into a machine gun. they are not machine guns according to clarence thomas who wrote the majority decision. the justices were unanimous maintaining access to the abortion pill. rejecting a plan to undo the fda approval holding that the plaintiff did not have standing to sue. that does leave the door open for future challenges. on the federal level. well doing nothing to restrict access to medical abortions. joining me now is in mill heiser. ian, let's talk about the bump stock band that they claim they are not making a weapon into a machine gun. >> i was very surprised by this decision. i thought that the argument went better for the side in favor of banning bump stocks. there is a federal law that bans machine guns. this case could've gone either way. the way that the court has handled cases where the law is ambiguous in the past, they refer to the federal agency that is in charge of regulating. you are not just dealing with a pro-gun court. a court that is eager to aggrandize power into itself. and overrule the decisions of federal agencies. even federal agencies that are controlled by donald trump. >> in the decision that was the first abortion related case that was decided since overturning roe v wade two years ago. the ruling was very narrow. it was a great ruling in my opinion. it dodges a real question. if you can find plaintiffs, aren't we didn't laying the inevitable? >> this has been embarrassing. this judge down in texas was a christian right to lawyer before he became a judge. because of a quirk in the way that case assignments were, and you plaintiff that wants to get any case they want in front of him. he just rubberstamps the outcomes that conservatives want. the judiciary and supreme court recognized that this is an embarrassment for them. there is this pipeline where the judge did whatever right- wingers wanted to do. the problem, like you said. they did not shut down the case. these plaintiffs don't have standing to sue. anyone at all can bring the case whenever they want. there are three states that have shown up that will show up in this courtroom. he will issue another order trying to ban mifepristone again. it is a merry-go-round, again and again. >> you are expecting a few consequential decisions in the coming days, for the former president donald trump is immune from prosecution in the federal election interference case and others by claim of immunity. why have we not seen an opinion yet from mifepristone -- scotus on this? >> he is not immune from prosecution. it does not matter because he has already won. what you wanted to do was delay this trial until after this election. he does not want the burden of being a twice convicted felon and does not want to be convicted for the most serious crime that he has been charged of. if he wins in november, he is president he can order the justice department to drop the charges. he wants the court to delay this case until after the election. they have held onto the case for so long that it will not be possible to have the trial until after the election. no matter what the court says, it does not really matter. trump has already won. >> i am very interested in the progression of this. we were supposed to get a warning from scotus before the end of june? >> they are handed down because the justices want to go away on summer vacation. it could go into july. i think that is unlikely. i have covered the court for about a dozen years. the only time he went into july was 2020. that was because of the pandemic. maybe ian i have less than 60 seconds. assuming that there is no criminal need from donald trump, the fact she will conduct an evidentiary hearing with in the scope of his duties in the oval office and what is falling outside of his scope of duties in the oval office. db lasted a little bit. can you envision a mini trial, these hearings being a mini trial of the hearings of the crimes that he has been accused of. >> potentially. you could have a fight over what evidence can be admitted in the trial. some of them have heard oral arguments, whatever the judge says about the evidence can be appealed. when it is appealed the trial is paused again. the likelihood we get to a final verdict is very small. >> we will have to have you back. we are trying to keep track. thank you for being here. i appreciate it. coming up. hypocrisy over democracy. my conversation with ayanna pressley for the threat that republicans opposed to our nation. that is next. next. et whole boy deodorant... everywhere. 4 out of 5 gynecologists would recommend whole body deodorant, which gives you 72 hour odor protection from your pits to your- (sfx: deoderant being sprayed) secret whole body deodorant. ♪ [suspenseful music] trains. 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>> yes, i am pleased to be a founder of the stop project 2025 task force. we make sure that donald trump is not re-elected president of the united states of america. it has been my experience with extreme republicans that they do not make threats, they make promises. this new task force to stop project 2025 will be doing exactly that. bringing the awareness to this far right manifesto that will dismantle the government as we know it. everything from the department of education to reinstating executive action so that they are hiring partisan trump sycophants. bands on books, bans on abortion. eliminating title i funding from k -12 schools. it is wild and frightening. >> it seems that you have seen the writing on the wall for a long time about this erosion of individual rights. you've been a member of the pro- choice caucus and access task force for years. do you see this supreme court decision as a victory for now? especially as republican colleagues block legislation to get birth control and ivf? >> as the far right manifesto rings out, jobs are just the beginning. after that, we saw the dominoes fall. first birth control and contraceptives and then ivf. when it comes to the ruling that was a procedural one, i have been managing my expectations based on the rulings on jobs and affirmative action. i'm surprised and relieved. this is a tremendous victory for reproductive health care access. it is safer than tylenol. safe, legal, and effective. i am bracing myself for future challenges. i know that they will stop at nothing to make real a nationwide ban on abortion. consider what that means and the implications. it is life-and-death. the far right extreme have enlisted the supreme court in this far right agenda. >> donald trump recently sat down and he had this to say. i have so many black friends and if i was racist, they would know better than anybody. he said they would not be with me for two minutes if they thought i was racist and i am not racist. in my opinion, he does not protest too much. he is clearly doing a lot of moves like this in advance of the 2024 election. >> katie, i don't care who donald trump's friends are. i care about what his rhetoric is and what his policies are and the harm that he has caused. the best remedy for the future is the past. he called for the death penalty for babies. now the social park 5 and discriminated against black tenants when he was a landlord. while in the oval office, played a critical role in getting a bench that is far right extreme and imbalanced. he has questionable ethics which is why we need ethics reform, we need to expand the court to right size this and bring balance to restore integrity there. policy is my love language. project 2025 which is nothing but a blueprint for much more of it. >> every thursday now as the term ends for the supreme court, we are waiting with baited breath to see how the conservative scotus rules. we have not gotten a ruling from them on the claim of terminal immunity for his conduct while in the oval office. we just got a ruling on bump stocks that they do not tell if i as a machine gun and you can use one. furthering the gun culture of our country. there was a note and some language and the concurrence that said that congress, if they want to do something about it, they can do it. talk about how frustrating it is to want to protect all americans regardless of party affiliation and you keep getting to these roadblocks. >> it is incredibly frustrating. folks on the outside looking in, why cannot everybody get along? being the adults in the room. it is very difficult to have an honest conversation with dishonest people. our colleagues across the aisle, they are not interested in negotiating good faith. issues that are suburban, urban, or rural issues of shared consequence and importance of shared constituencies. they would rather pursue impeachment investigations. the 118th congress has been chaos and dysfunction under the republican majority. they have governed with callousness and cruelty and contempt for the american people. when you don't want to do things like insure that

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