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desire to make a drug class available for others does not establish standing to sue." this is the most significant abortion ruling from the supreme court since it overturned roe v. wade nearly 2 years ago. joining us now, nbc news washington correspondent outside the supreme court. nbc news senior legal correspondent, laura jarrett. what more does this ruling say? >> reporter: is a significant ruling. this willing says the drug, this drug continues to be accessible for women across the country who use medication warming as their form of abortion. we've seen studies that show 63% of women use abortion medication for their means of accessing abortion care. this ruling was unanimous from the 673 conservative majority. the doctors and antiabortion groups here do not have standing. that is important because the same it is a merit to this case, they are saying the people who brought this case to have standing needed. during oral argument, there were hints this was the way the court might rule. you had brett kavanaugh asking at one point whether or not there was a federal law that showed doctors who oppose abortion, that they would be able to opt out of providing any sort of abortion care. the justices here are saying these doctors who would not be at all harmed for they would not have the sort of legal standing they need to be able to bring this case. i've been talking to some political people, including senior advisor in the biden campaign and they are underscoring this means abortion medication in this country is not safe from their point of view, they are saying it is wrong to look at this and say a medication abortion a safe overall. republicans, former president donald trump could come into office and ban medication abortion. the supreme court is saying is access to mifepristone is continuing to be accessible through mail, through telehealth, through all the ways the fda approved it. if you are a woman, and to a number of them across the country, if you are wondering if you will still have access to medication abortion, the supreme court is sending us, you have the exact kind of access to continue to have to mifepristone. >> is this a way to complete going forward? just of this lawsuit included the fda authority to regulate or decide what is and is not accessible and available. >> jose, that is sort of why i think the court that this was a bridge too far. past and then gave them the grounds to do it but also the potential fallout would have been massive. they had upheld the lower court that wanted to try to take this pill off the market, it would have put every single fda approved drug potentially on the chopping block from people who simply did not like it. as the court might hear, these are not doctors who want to prescribe mifepristone, these are doctors who never want to prescribe mifepristone, these are not patients who said they have been harmed in any way, these are advocates who simply think the drug is not safe, even though the biden administration, the fda has shown time and again it is safe. it is interesting because this is one of two major abortion rulings that are up for this high court, a court that just two years ago said it wanted to get out of the business of abortion but we see they are still knee-deep in it. their hands were forced in this case because, jose, if they had done anything, the role lower court ruling would have been in play. they had to take this up, they essentially had to take this case. >> is there something to read from the unanimous nature of this, laura ? >> because they did it on standing grounds, that gave them the opportunity to all come together and not have to address the merits of abortion or the merits of something that might be able to trick you and more polarizing. standing is supposed to be a bedrock issue. many had wondered how the case managed to get this far. this all started more than a year ago. it was good friday last year and a single judge in texas tried to take the pill of the market nationwide. that is what set this whole thing off and it has been wending its way through the courts for more than a year now. and, it is, it is sort of sending it managed to get as far as it did when the grounds on standing were so clear-cut, at least in the supreme court. >> normally when everything comes down, it pretty much stops anything related to that woman from continuing. but, this is possibly not the case in this willing? >> reporter: that's right. this is a 67, three conservative majority case. republicans are looking at this supreme court that overturned roe v. wade two years ago, the anniversary is coming up just around the corner, and there are a number of people looking at this exciting because they didn't decide this on the merits, possibly this opens the door for other people, patients who say they have been harmed by mifepristone, doctors who said they have been denied the right to not treat patients who have complications with mifepristone. they could bring a separate case. in some ways, they are leaving the door open, democrats are underscoring that point over and over again as i can texting them in front of the supreme court. they are setting this does not mean the medication is safe but this "it's sitting on standing. i think it is important to continue to underscore this is unanimous. that does not mean that this court, that is very, very much divided on the issue of abortion when you think about the opinion that came down just two years ago, the sort of real tension between the justices that we could read, they are not saying this is on merit that the fda can continue to have this kind of approval process that they have had on this drug in particular. they are sending these doctors were the ones, they were the wrong ones. there are women who want to continue to have mifepristone but there are a number of abortion advocates telling me there are still very worried in the future, a separate case could come forward to challenge the access to mifepristone, which , of course, something like 60 percent of women used for access. this is typically women access abortion treatment, which is why you are seeking abortion advocates a pump the brakes, it does not mean that while they think we got good news, that it means it is good news untempered >> with all the different sources that you have, what has been the reaction you've been reading? >> reporter: the reaction has really been that they are, especially from the democrats i'm talking to, and texting with senior advisors as well as people in the vice president's office because vice president kamala harris has become what is really the most prominent voice in the biden administration on the issue of abortion. they are telling me that while they are happy to see the supreme court take these doctors who are not being forced to prescribe mifepristone, these people who are antiabortion, they are not patients who have been harmed, they are feeling good about the fact the supreme court is saying okay, we are not going to let these people take mifepristone off of the market, they are saying, though, to me -- >> we just lost yamiche acindor. very quickly, if i could, laura, sq what you're looking for because this is not the only abortion case currently before the court. >> there is a significant case left to come. it has to do with a federal law that says if someone comes into the emergency room in need of life-saving treatment, you have to give to them, even if it is an abortion. the question is what happens in cases and in states that have a complete abortion ban like idaho? how do you reconcile attention ? that is what the court will be looking at as we round out the rest of the time that will end in the next two weeks. >> laura, thank you very much, yamiche acindor, thank you very much. joining us is alyssa mcgill johnson, the president and ceo of planned parenthood. alexis, thank you for being with us. what is your reaction to this decision? >> we are quite relieved that the supreme court unanimously decided that the plaintiffs in this case had no standing. we also are wondering how it got here in the first place, as your reporters let in. this is a case that should have never been there. we are also happy the court affirmed the role of the fda in regulating medication, not antiabortion dentists, even, who have no standing. i think that is awesome really important. the reality is here that this is not going to stop the attacks on medication abortion, this is not going to stop the attacks on reproductive freedom. there is a road map that is laid out even within this opening and we are still digging in as well. the preliminary look at clarence thomas's concurrence suggests that clients who might have standing. this is a case that might continue to yield efforts for the anti-abortion minority when we see it potentially go back to the district court and continue. obviously we are still deeply concerned but also relieved for the patients right now who can have access to the abortion care that they want in the way that they want it. >> june 24th is going to mark the second anniversary of the supreme court overturning roe versus wade. what are your thoughts as we approach that date? >> jose, i mean, we are living in a reality where one out of three women and more transgender and nonebinary folks no longer have access to abortion care in that state. that is to three black women who no longer have access to that care. and, the devastation that we have already seen, right, knowing abortion bans have made it seem more dangerous. they have put at risk pregnancy outcomes for criminalization and the impact to patients as well as providers in the communities i think is also something that we need to really take a look at and reflect on in the two years that has passed. the idea that within those two years we are back at the supreme court not once but twice this year with the mifepristone case as well as the case surrounding emtala, the fact that this) court is considering whether or not idaho has the right to allow patients to die because they refuse to allow abortion care in the state for patients who are desperately in need. inc. the reflection is really telling me that the value of our bodies, our decisions, our equality, our lives is still being contested at the highest level in this nation. you know, under the constitution that is supposed to guarantee as equality and liberty. >> talking a little bit about that, i'm glad you mentioned that the other decision on abortion at the supreme court is waiting, it involves whether federal regulations supersede local abortion laws in order to provide medical care to patients. how significant do you think is this case? >> i think it is incredibly significant. i happen to be in the courtroom during the mifepristone case. i think we all agreed and hurt the deep questioning around the standing. and, i think in some ways that they unanimously made this decision regarding standing was easy related to mifepristone because it still allows some of those efforts to flourish. but, the real case that we have been watching intensely has been the emtala case. this is a case that, essentially, they are fighting in court to let people die and they are fighting in a way that leaves no room for compassion, no concessions, no compromises and they will frame it, i suspect, around issues of federalism. but, this is really about whether or not you are able to get the life-saving care they need. and, i think that is something that we need to pay very close attention to, especially given the devastating impact of abortion bans across this country to florida being the most recent. we are talking about a state that has a volume 80,000 patients who are now living under a six week ban and the impact of forcing them into pregnancy and removing the protections, the federal protections to allow them to get the care that they may need in the event that something happens during their pregnancy. that i think is incredibly alarming and we should be really looking at the court on this one. >> alexis mcgill johnson, i appreciate your perspective. i thank you for being with us this morning. up next, more reaction to today's decision on the abortion pill. plus, new reaction from the biden campaign. we are back in 90 seconds. you are watching jose diaz- balart reports on msnbc. power e*trade's award-winning trading app makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley power e*trade's easy to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans can help you find new trading opportunities, while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market. e*trade from morgan stanley (vo) sail through the heart of historic cities and stay on top of the market. and unforgettable scenery with viking. unpack once and get closer to iconic landmarks, local life and cultural treasures. because when you experience europe on a viking longship, you'll spend less time getting there and more time being there. viking. exploring the world in comfort. upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast. 14 best the hour, breaking news is our. this "is the abortion bill mifepristone can stay on the market. we are getting new reaction from the biden campaign. the campaign's senior advisor just released the statement just a short time ago. in part saying, " it would be a devastating estate for voters or members of the media to take away from today's willing that medication abortion is safe from maga attacks. if given the chance, donald trump will ban medication abortion nationwide. in fact, his allies have a plan to do so using executive actions. close quote want to bring in law and politics analyst dolly electric msnbc legal contributor, host of the katie phang show. what is your reaction to this decision? >> thanks, jose, i'm honored to be on with dahlia and dr. patel. jose, what i appreciate about what happened today is the misprision of the decision, but i think it's a good thing here tomorrow prudently, there is this thing we used to do i was still practicing law, which is you go for the theater before the substance. in this instance, we don't have standing. if you can't make your way through the courthouse door to be able to have your case heard, that is okay. not all plaintiffs have standing. you have to have a personal stake in the dispute. interestingly, justice brett kavanaugh writes that justice and scalia once said "what is in it for you ?" what does this have anything to do with you? what is unfortunate, jose, this case made it all the way to the supreme court. any chance a case exit to the supreme court creates an opportunity for either battle, as we see with the overturning of roe versus wade in dobbs, or an opportunity for there to be some type of language that exists in a supreme court decision that can be used for good or for bad. so, i am disappointed that this case made it as far as the supreme court but am relieved to see that the procedure, the necessity for a plate of to have standing, to have a personal stake in the dispute, that the respect for standing existed and that is what was decided today. >> katie, what, what determines the road to the supreme court for cases? >> there's a lot of machinations that take place on the trial court and the appellate court levels. in order to have standing, you have to have some type of injury in fact. you have to have something more than just a general grievance about a concept, an idea. for example, in this instance, you also cannot just have an issue with how the fda has made its determinations in terms of how it wants to deal with prescription medication, for example. so, in order to get there, you have to sue. what we find is when you have activist judges like matthew kaczmarek out in texas, who allows decisions to be rendered in his court and have activist appellate courts and the circuit that allow decisions to continue to proceed in a way that it makes it to the courthouse steps, literally as our viewers see on the screen of the supreme court, that is how these cases make it to the supreme court. that is why i want to caution people, as we heard from the right in administration, this doesn't mean abortion rights, it doesn't mean access to abortion medication is safe. it also doesn't mean we shouldn't be paying attention to jose to who we elect to our positions of government that appoint judges to the federal bench. those are just as important as the decisions that are made by presidents for supreme court appointments. >> dr. patel, let's talk about, specifically, but this ruling actually means for patients. >> was a, it means that the law of the land in terms of what the fda has determined is safe and effective and that doctors can prescribe mifepristone as part of medication abortion is in fact still able to be done. having said that, i think there's so much misinformation and confusion for doctors and certainly in some states. it is incredibly difficult to do this or to even find a doctor. i don't want to minimize and make it seem like it is so easy. we also know, jose, from the data that has been continuing to come, the majority of abortions are done by medication and that we do have decades of data on the safety and effectiveness of this. so, in some essence, i was texting with a bunch of physician colleagues of mine, they are relieved. we are not sitting around waiting for supreme court decisions while we are delivering patient care but we are relieved on one hand but also incredibly worried about what is next. even though today's unanimous ruling might seem like oh, we are safe, as you heard katie mentioned, and others, this is not necessarily mean we are out of the woods yet. and, i just want to underscore that only can a president appoint judges, a president can appoint an fda commissioner who control back a number of the expansions that we did seem in the biden administration. >> dahlia, how do you see this ruling? >> i mean, first of all, i just want to re-up what katie just said. we just have to keep remembering that not getting punched in the neck is not a win. this is not a huge win for reproductive freedom. this is nonecatastrophe. it is a case that is laughable and i think if you read justice brett kavanaugh's opinion, he puts on a clinic about why this case is laughable, why hurt feelings are not the basis for standing. but, i also read this opinion as a kind of a take your win, take your ring, doctors who oppose reproductive freedom. you asked to have roe v. wade overturned, you got it, you want conscience plus protections that say no physician who opposes abortion ever, ever has to perform one. you've got that, you've got layers and layers and layers of protection to ensure that the thing that you are afraid of happening, which is you stumble into an er and have to somehow take part in an abortion procedure that offends you, that doesn't happen. there's not a single location, says brett kavanaugh but that could happen or has happened and you want to turn off the spigot at the fda for every single person in the country seeking medication abortions. that is not only i think he said, notwithstanding, it is also just not taking all the winds that you've got. i read this case as a unanimous court setting this theory of standing once almost literally shouldn't have come to the court but i also agree with katie that there's more to come. and, we know that judge kasmarick is adequate states to this case to say that they have standing. this is essential, that the comstock act, this defunct anti-vice statute is being explicitly threatened to be rolled out on day one of a republican administration to say that putting these pills in the mail could become illegal. let's be really, really clear on the size of the wind and the extent of the lingering threat. >> katie, talk to us. what we have been hearing more and more about the con stop, comstock act, what is it and how can it be used don ford question >> i'm going to defer to dahlia. this is her wheelhouse. i'm going to have her answer that. the fda authority being challenged is a real concern. we just saw this week the idm of ivf being challenged, the idea of personhood is now being interjected too many legal opinions across many different states, this idea that a fetus has personhood is now going to create a challenge to ivf. everybody mark this, this show right now. we are going to have ivf challenges that will go to the supreme court because it is something that has been a recognized and safe medical procedure, going to be a problem. that is why this is, to dahlia's point, the spigot hasn't been turned off. we all need to be concerned that we don't have activist judges that are allowing plaintiffs that don't have standing or allowing issues that don't exist to be created simply for the purpose to get in front of the supreme court that has a 6-3 conservative majority. now i will flip it to dahlia to talk about the comstock act. >> very quickly, the comstock act is a zombie law. we thought it was defunct, it was an anti-vice statute that allowed the government to path through the mail and sees biography or, included in the things that could be seized, things that caused abortion. we have not been forced to do. it is considered something that has been dead for a very long time. and yet we are seeing, by the way,, and oral argument in this very case that may be the comstock act is operative and maybe it has applications for this case. we have expressly heard from people who want to see it in a republican administration invoked immediately not just to go after abortion pills but the kinds of devices that are used in surgical abortions that also have to travel through the mail. i think we just need to be very, very clear and this goes to the ways in which these zombie was from the 19th century are coming back to life and being cited as though they are good law, that this law on day one could be, could have new life breathed into it and be used to say okay, that's it. we don't need to wait for the courts, we don't need to wait for kacmarik. we can prosecute anyone. we need to be mindful of just what happened today but what could happen. what is especially being promised is on the menu if donald trump wins the election. >> you know, knowledge is strength and strength is knowledge and dahlia, it is important that we know about these zombie flaws and so much more. i thank you, dolly olympic, katie phang, dr. patel for being with us and bringing us the light of knowledge. up next, new reaction coming in from capitol hill, including from the house speaker, as well as, and i'm just seeing this right now, from the white house. i'm going to read it to you, if you will let me do so. "today's decision does not change the fact that the fight for reproductive freedom continuance. it does not change the fact that the supreme court overturned roe v. wade two years ago and women lost the fundamental freedom. it does not change the fact that the right for a woman to get the treatment she needs is imperiled, if not impossible in many states." i will wait for you more of what the white house has to say in just moments. we are also following the latest developments as donald trump visits capitol hill, including what he just said about abortion. you are watching jose diaz- balart reports on msnbc. c. ♪♪ using our 35 plus years of pharmacy benefits management experience to save businesses billions while boosting medication adherence. helping plan sponsors and their members be at their best. that's wonder made possible. evernorth health services. you know what's brilliant? boring. think about it. boring is the unsung catalyst for bold. what straps bold to a rocket and hurtles it into space? boring does. boring makes vacations happen, early retirements possible, and startups start up. because it's smart, dependable, and steady. all words you want from your bank. for nearly 160 years, pnc bank has been brilliantly boring so you can be happily fulfilled... which is pretty un-boring if you think about it. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it's time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. 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>> we don't have all the details of it just yet but the idea of it really is that biden is trying to give assurances to ukraine in the face of russian aggression, something that is short of nato membership, something where it feels to russia, a message to russia that the u.s. has ukraine's back as well for the next 10 years. we will provide them with weapons, we will provide them with technical assistance and intelligence cooperation. so, it is not fully an alliance but something where we have assurances where we are going to have their back. and, like i said, short of nato mentorship, the critical part of it is monica mentioned is biden doesn't know if he's going to win the election in november. although this could be undone technically by president trent, former president trump, hopefully not future president trump's, you still, it would be very difficult or ugly for a future administration to undo that. that is why president biden is trying to do this immediately and get it done before the election. >> it is interesting because, monica was talking about how there is a united feeling in the g7, how to deal with russian aggression, right. russia is not just standing by. you know, it is beefing up its ties to allies in south america. what is going on 90 miles from our shores? >> it feels a little 1962. i am glad you missed this because it is an important issue. it also shouldn't be cause for alarm at the moment. a lot of this is a reflection of an international game, if you will. a scary game but a game nonetheless. russia has moved warships on wednesday. they moved warships to cuba for joint exercises with the cuban regime. and they are expected to leave next monday. it is something the u.s. is monitoring very closely but they are not concerned because these are not warships that carry nuclear missiles. it is really more part of a show of force. when that show of force is happening is it is in response to the u.s. approval to ukrainian authorities to use u.s. weapons to target russian targets right outside the second largest city in ukraine, which russia is pounding from within russia's borders. two ukraine's defense, the u.s. has allowed the crane to use american weapons only to target those targets right across the border, not to target the kremlin or anything else. russia felt it had to show something in response, do something in response. they came out with a lot of bluster. when they look at their tools and the options they have, this, to me, it's a logical step. they are going to try to do something that shows we are here, we are not afraid to move our ships, here is an ally of ours. that something is expected to escalate any further. >> i am all with you on that. the images of a nuclear powered submarine going into havana harbor, three warships with subsonic missiles on board is a pretty clear message by russia as to who they see as their allies and what they are willing to do to keep and maintain that friendship agreement not only to cuba, what is going on in venezuela and nicaragua and so many other places. hagar chemali, thank you for being with us. always a treat to speak with you. >> thanks. , state of emergency in south florida. more than 20 inches of rain have fallen in this area in just the last couple of days. hundreds stranded on the streets. so many houses have been flooded. this is a real huge crisis. we will be checking in with sam brock and that is him right there pushing the cart out of some of the most affected areas. sam brock, correspondent and aaa help. you are watching jose diaz- balart reports on msnbc. lexe they need has always felt... just out of reach. ♪♪ at evernorth, we give members unrivaled access to the most complex therapies at the best prices. while providing enhanced support like in—home nursing at no additional cost. that's wonder made possible. evernorth health services. ♪ [suspenseful music] trains. 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i spoke with that officer. he told me 200 cars were towed. just by this area. they are expecting that to jump to 300. there are still a few here. the mayor did brief the media and the public. she said, no mandatory evacuations, no shelters opened. they are anticipating heavy rainfall. they want folks to be cautious. i in a pickup truck right now. there's a foot of water. half the deaths are because people try to drive through areas they should not be trying to pass. please keep that in mind in the days ahead. back to you. >> sam, i saw this video that we showed earlier about you helping somebody out there. i feel so terrible for the many people who have lost their automobiles and so many homes that were flooded. hopefully -- you are saying that maybe we gotta be prepared for more. sam, thank you very much for that. bill, what is it that we should be prepared for? >> a burst of heavy rain later this afternoon. with it comes the high risk of flash flooding. the reason why sam was bringing it up is because the majority of fatalities happen when you are in high risk. that's the level of concern. we have thunderstorms forming. they started on the west coast. they will make their way to south florida. it's pouring right now from ft. myers to naples. one or two inches an hour. we will watch flash flood warnings issues. it's beginning in naples. ft. myers is in the midst of it, too. as we track this, it does bring it to the miami area southward from 2:00 or 3:00 this afternoon and ending by about 7:00. fort lauderdale, down in north miami that got hit yesterday, that will be about midafternoon. it won't take much. it's not like a typical florida day. the ground cannot take anymore. >> bill karins, thank you very much. appreciate it. up next, new calls for president biden to protect dreamers. we will talk with a congresswoman whose husband is a dreamer. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports." diaz-balart reports. 56 past the hour. more now on the breaking news. the supreme court ruling the abortion pill mifepristone can stay on the market. joining us now, ramirez. thank you for being with us. your reaction to the supreme court decision. >> relieved. that was the first thing that i think -- i took a big deep breath of relief. we know this is obvious, i'm glad that it was a decision by the consensus. it doesn't mean they will not continue to attack us and try to bring more extreme legal actions against reproductive justice, reproductive work. we have to make sure we stay alert and we continue to do the work until we codify roe v. wade. >> i want to talk about daca. it's 12 years saturday. you are married to a daca recipient, one of hundreds of thousands of dreamers in legal limbo. what does it mean for you and hip and so many others? >> the anniversary is a reminder we don't have a pathway to citizenship. it's a reminder that they still have deferred action. it could be taken from them at any given time. congress still hasn't acted. it hasn't created a pathway to citizenship. i have to look into my husband's eyes and it's a reminder every week that it's another week that i wasn't able to deliver a pathway to citizenship for him and so many thousands and thousands of daca recipients who is why we know that the president has to act in absence of congressional action. >> what are you asking of the president? >> look, first of all, people have to recertify and resubmit their application every two years. we should make this automatic. if the information hasn't changed, if they don't have a criminal record, make it easier for daca recipients to renew their daca. the idea that we have to get an attorney, we have to pay fees, we have to do that. is the officer -- is the office going to approve my status in time to keep working? that shouldn't happen. one of the things we want to do is do that. the second thing we talk about is, how do we modernize daca? the idea that there are thousands and thousands of young people who would be eligible but because they didn't meet the 2012 date are unable to get daca is unacceptable to me. 80% of americans want to see a citizenship for daca recipients. we are asking for that. there's a number of other things we are asking for. opportunities to be able to give officers the authority to begin adjustment for daca recipients. how is it possible that in this country where all they know is the united states that they have to continue to live in the shadows, that they can't work in the capitol where a wife of a dreamer works? we have to do everything we can in administrative action, while i'm with my palm card walking up and down the floor during session getting the last of the democrats that haven't signed on to become co-sponsors of the bill. >> congresswoman ramirez, thank you for being with us. i appreciate your time. let's continue our conversation going forward. >> thank you. absolutely. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can watch clips from our show at youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. i will be back here at 1:00 p.m. eastern. 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desire to make a drug class available for others does not establish standing to sue." this is the most significant abortion ruling from the supreme court since it overturned roe v. wade nearly 2 years ago. joining us now, nbc news washington correspondent outside the supreme court. nbc news senior legal correspondent, laura jarrett. what more does this ruling say? >> reporter: is a significant ruling. this willing says the drug, this drug continues to be accessible for women across the country who use medication warming as their form of abortion. we've seen studies that show 63% of women use abortion medication for their means of accessing abortion care. this ruling was unanimous from the 673 conservative majority. the doctors and antiabortion groups here do not have standing. that is important because the same it is a merit to this case, they are saying the people who brought this case to have standing needed. during oral argument, there were hints this was the way the court might rule. you had brett kavanaugh asking at one point whether or not there was a federal law that showed doctors who oppose abortion, that they would be able to opt out of providing any sort of abortion care. the justices here are saying these doctors who would not be at all harmed for they would not have the sort of legal standing they need to be able to bring this case. i've been talking to some political people, including senior advisor in the biden campaign and they are underscoring this means abortion medication in this country is not safe from their point of view, they are saying it is wrong to look at this and say a medication abortion a safe overall. republicans, former president donald trump could come into office and ban medication abortion. the supreme court is saying is access to mifepristone is continuing to be accessible through mail, through telehealth, through all the ways the fda approved it. if you are a woman, and to a number of them across the country, if you are wondering if you will still have access to medication abortion, the supreme court is sending us, you have the exact kind of access to continue to have to mifepristone. >> is this a way to complete going forward? just of this lawsuit included the fda authority to regulate or decide what is and is not accessible and available. >> jose, that is sort of why i think the court that this was a bridge too far. past and then gave them the grounds to do it but also the potential fallout would have been massive. they had upheld the lower court that wanted to try to take this pill off the market, it would have put every single fda approved drug potentially on the chopping block from people who simply did not like it. as the court might hear, these are not doctors who want to prescribe mifepristone, these are doctors who never want to prescribe mifepristone, these are not patients who said they have been harmed in any way, these are advocates who simply think the drug is not safe, even though the biden administration, the fda has shown time and again it is safe. it is interesting because this is one of two major abortion rulings that are up for this high court, a court that just two years ago said it wanted to get out of the business of abortion but we see they are still knee-deep in it. their hands were forced in this case because, jose, if they had done anything, the role lower court ruling would have been in play. they had to take this up, they essentially had to take this case. >> is there something to read from the unanimous nature of this, laura ? >> because they did it on standing grounds, that gave them the opportunity to all come together and not have to address the merits of abortion or the merits of something that might be able to trick you and more polarizing. standing is supposed to be a bedrock issue. many had wondered how the case managed to get this far. this all started more than a year ago. it was good friday last year and a single judge in texas tried to take the pill of the market nationwide. that is what set this whole thing off and it has been wending its way through the courts for more than a year now. and, it is, it is sort of sending it managed to get as far as it did when the grounds on standing were so clear-cut, at least in the supreme court. >> normally when everything comes down, it pretty much stops anything related to that woman from continuing. but, this is possibly not the case in this willing? >> reporter: that's right. this is a 67, three conservative majority case. republicans are looking at this supreme court that overturned roe v. wade two years ago, the anniversary is coming up just around the corner, and there are a number of people looking at this exciting because they didn't decide this on the merits, possibly this opens the door for other people, patients who say they have been harmed by mifepristone, doctors who said they have been denied the right to not treat patients who have complications with mifepristone. they could bring a separate case. in some ways, they are leaving the door open, democrats are underscoring that point over and over again as i can texting them in front of the supreme court. they are setting this does not mean the medication is safe but this "it's sitting on standing. i think it is important to continue to underscore this is unanimous. that does not mean that this court, that is very, very much divided on the issue of abortion when you think about the opinion that came down just two years ago, the sort of real tension between the justices that we could read, they are not saying this is on merit that the fda can continue to have this kind of approval process that they have had on this drug in particular. they are sending these doctors were the ones, they were the wrong ones. there are women who want to continue to have mifepristone but there are a number of abortion advocates telling me there are still very worried in the future, a separate case could come forward to challenge the access to mifepristone, which , of course, something like 60 percent of women used for access. this is typically women access abortion treatment, which is why you are seeking abortion advocates a pump the brakes, it does not mean that while they think we got good news, that it means it is good news untempered >> with all the different sources that you have, what has been the reaction you've been reading? >> reporter: the reaction has really been that they are, especially from the democrats i'm talking to, and texting with senior advisors as well as people in the vice president's office because vice president kamala harris has become what is really the most prominent voice in the biden administration on the issue of abortion. they are telling me that while they are happy to see the supreme court take these doctors who are not being forced to prescribe mifepristone, these people who are antiabortion, they are not patients who have been harmed, they are feeling good about the fact the supreme court is saying okay, we are not going to let these people take mifepristone off of the market, they are saying, though, to me -- >> we just lost yamiche acindor. very quickly, if i could, laura, sq what you're looking for because this is not the only abortion case currently before the court. >> there is a significant case left to come. it has to do with a federal law that says if someone comes into the emergency room in need of life-saving treatment, you have to give to them, even if it is an abortion. the question is what happens in cases and in states that have a complete abortion ban like idaho? how do you reconcile attention ? that is what the court will be looking at as we round out the rest of the time that will end in the next two weeks. >> laura, thank you very much, yamiche acindor, thank you very much. joining us is alyssa mcgill johnson, the president and ceo of planned parenthood. alexis, thank you for being with us. what is your reaction to this decision? >> we are quite relieved that the supreme court unanimously decided that the plaintiffs in this case had no standing. we also are wondering how it got here in the first place, as your reporters let in. this is a case that should have never been there. we are also happy the court affirmed the role of the fda in regulating medication, not antiabortion dentists, even, who have no standing. i think that is awesome really important. the reality is here that this is not going to stop the attacks on medication abortion, this is not going to stop the attacks on reproductive freedom. there is a road map that is laid out even within this opening and we are still digging in as well. the preliminary look at clarence thomas's concurrence suggests that clients who might have standing. this is a case that might continue to yield efforts for the anti-abortion minority when we see it potentially go back to the district court and continue. obviously we are still deeply concerned but also relieved for the patients right now who can have access to the abortion care that they want in the way that they want it. >> june 24th is going to mark the second anniversary of the supreme court overturning roe versus wade. what are your thoughts as we approach that date? >> jose, i mean, we are living in a reality where one out of three women and more transgender and nonebinary folks no longer have access to abortion care in that state. that is to three black women who no longer have access to that care. and, the devastation that we have already seen, right, knowing abortion bans have made it seem more dangerous. they have put at risk pregnancy outcomes for criminalization and the impact to patients as well as providers in the communities i think is also something that we need to really take a look at and reflect on in the two years that has passed. the idea that within those two years we are back at the supreme court not once but twice this year with the mifepristone case as well as the case surrounding emtala, the fact that this) court is considering whether or not idaho has the right to allow patients to die because they refuse to allow abortion care in the state for patients who are desperately in need. inc. the reflection is really telling me that the value of our bodies, our decisions, our equality, our lives is still being contested at the highest level in this nation. you know, under the constitution that is supposed to guarantee as equality and liberty. >> talking a little bit about that, i'm glad you mentioned that the other decision on abortion at the supreme court is waiting, it involves whether federal regulations supersede local abortion laws in order to provide medical care to patients. how significant do you think is this case? >> i think it is incredibly significant. i happen to be in the courtroom during the mifepristone case. i think we all agreed and hurt the deep questioning around the standing. and, i think in some ways that they unanimously made this decision regarding standing was easy related to mifepristone because it still allows some of those efforts to flourish. but, the real case that we have been watching intensely has been the emtala case. this is a case that, essentially, they are fighting in court to let people die and they are fighting in a way that leaves no room for compassion, no concessions, no compromises and they will frame it, i suspect, around issues of federalism. but, this is really about whether or not you are able to get the life-saving care they need. and, i think that is something that we need to pay very close attention to, especially given the devastating impact of abortion bans across this country to florida being the most recent. we are talking about a state that has a volume 80,000 patients who are now living under a six week ban and the impact of forcing them into pregnancy and removing the protections, the federal protections to allow them to get the care that they may need in the event that something happens during their pregnancy. that i think is incredibly alarming and we should be really looking at the court on this one. >> alexis mcgill johnson, i appreciate your perspective. i thank you for being with us this morning. up next, more reaction to today's decision on the abortion pill. plus, new reaction from the biden campaign. we are back in 90 seconds. you are watching jose diaz- balart reports on msnbc. power e*trade's award-winning trading app makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley power e*trade's easy to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans can help you find new trading opportunities, while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market. e*trade from morgan stanley (vo) sail through the heart of historic cities and stay on top of the market. and unforgettable scenery with viking. unpack once and get closer to iconic landmarks, local life and cultural treasures. because when you experience europe on a viking longship, you'll spend less time getting there and more time being there. viking. exploring the world in comfort. upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast. 14 best the hour, breaking news is our. this "is the abortion bill mifepristone can stay on the market. we are getting new reaction from the biden campaign. the campaign's senior advisor just released the statement just a short time ago. in part saying, " it would be a devastating estate for voters or members of the media to take away from today's willing that medication abortion is safe from maga attacks. if given the chance, donald trump will ban medication abortion nationwide. in fact, his allies have a plan to do so using executive actions. close quote want to bring in law and politics analyst dolly electric msnbc legal contributor, host of the katie phang show. what is your reaction to this decision? >> thanks, jose, i'm honored to be on with dahlia and dr. patel. jose, what i appreciate about what happened today is the misprision of the decision, but i think it's a good thing here tomorrow prudently, there is this thing we used to do i was still practicing law, which is you go for the theater before the substance. in this instance, we don't have standing. if you can't make your way through the courthouse door to be able to have your case heard, that is okay. not all plaintiffs have standing. you have to have a personal stake in the dispute. interestingly, justice brett kavanaugh writes that justice and scalia once said "what is in it for you ?" what does this have anything to do with you? what is unfortunate, jose, this case made it all the way to the supreme court. any chance a case exit to the supreme court creates an opportunity for either battle, as we see with the overturning of roe versus wade in dobbs, or an opportunity for there to be some type of language that exists in a supreme court decision that can be used for good or for bad. so, i am disappointed that this case made it as far as the supreme court but am relieved to see that the procedure, the necessity for a plate of to have standing, to have a personal stake in the dispute, that the respect for standing existed and that is what was decided today. >> katie, what, what determines the road to the supreme court for cases? >> there's a lot of machinations that take place on the trial court and the appellate court levels. in order to have standing, you have to have some type of injury in fact. you have to have something more than just a general grievance about a concept, an idea. for example, in this instance, you also cannot just have an issue with how the fda has made its determinations in terms of how it wants to deal with prescription medication, for example. so, in order to get there, you have to sue. what we find is when you have activist judges like matthew kaczmarek out in texas, who allows decisions to be rendered in his court and have activist appellate courts and the circuit that allow decisions to continue to proceed in a way that it makes it to the courthouse steps, literally as our viewers see on the screen of the supreme court, that is how these cases make it to the supreme court. that is why i want to caution people, as we heard from the right in administration, this doesn't mean abortion rights, it doesn't mean access to abortion medication is safe. it also doesn't mean we shouldn't be paying attention to jose to who we elect to our positions of government that appoint judges to the federal bench. those are just as important as the decisions that are made by presidents for supreme court appointments. >> dr. patel, let's talk about, specifically, but this ruling actually means for patients. >> was a, it means that the law of the land in terms of what the fda has determined is safe and effective and that doctors can prescribe mifepristone as part of medication abortion is in fact still able to be done. having said that, i think there's so much misinformation and confusion for doctors and certainly in some states. it is incredibly difficult to do this or to even find a doctor. i don't want to minimize and make it seem like it is so easy. we also know, jose, from the data that has been continuing to come, the majority of abortions are done by medication and that we do have decades of data on the safety and effectiveness of this. so, in some essence, i was texting with a bunch of physician colleagues of mine, they are relieved. we are not sitting around waiting for supreme court decisions while we are delivering patient care but we are relieved on one hand but also incredibly worried about what is next. even though today's unanimous ruling might seem like oh, we are safe, as you heard katie mentioned, and others, this is not necessarily mean we are out of the woods yet. and, i just want to underscore that only can a president appoint judges, a president can appoint an fda commissioner who control back a number of the expansions that we did seem in the biden administration. >> dahlia, how do you see this ruling? >> i mean, first of all, i just want to re-up what katie just said. we just have to keep remembering that not getting punched in the neck is not a win. this is not a huge win for reproductive freedom. this is nonecatastrophe. it is a case that is laughable and i think if you read justice brett kavanaugh's opinion, he puts on a clinic about why this case is laughable, why hurt feelings are not the basis for standing. but, i also read this opinion as a kind of a take your win, take your ring, doctors who oppose reproductive freedom. you asked to have roe v. wade overturned, you got it, you want conscience plus protections that say no physician who opposes abortion ever, ever has to perform one. you've got that, you've got layers and layers and layers of protection to ensure that the thing that you are afraid of happening, which is you stumble into an er and have to somehow take part in an abortion procedure that offends you, that doesn't happen. there's not a single location, says brett kavanaugh but that could happen or has happened and you want to turn off the spigot at the fda for every single person in the country seeking medication abortions. that is not only i think he said, notwithstanding, it is also just not taking all the winds that you've got. i read this case as a unanimous court setting this theory of standing once almost literally shouldn't have come to the court but i also agree with katie that there's more to come. and, we know that judge kasmarick is adequate states to this case to say that they have standing. this is essential, that the comstock act, this defunct anti-vice statute is being explicitly threatened to be rolled out on day one of a republican administration to say that putting these pills in the mail could become illegal. let's be really, really clear on the size of the wind and the extent of the lingering threat. >> katie, talk to us. what we have been hearing more and more about the con stop, comstock act, what is it and how can it be used don ford question >> i'm going to defer to dahlia. this is her wheelhouse. i'm going to have her answer that. the fda authority being challenged is a real concern. we just saw this week the idm of ivf being challenged, the idea of personhood is now being interjected too many legal opinions across many different states, this idea that a fetus has personhood is now going to create a challenge to ivf. everybody mark this, this show right now. we are going to have ivf challenges that will go to the supreme court because it is something that has been a recognized and safe medical procedure, going to be a problem. that is why this is, to dahlia's point, the spigot hasn't been turned off. we all need to be concerned that we don't have activist judges that are allowing plaintiffs that don't have standing or allowing issues that don't exist to be created simply for the purpose to get in front of the supreme court that has a 6-3 conservative majority. now i will flip it to dahlia to talk about the comstock act. >> very quickly, the comstock act is a zombie law. we thought it was defunct, it was an anti-vice statute that allowed the government to path through the mail and sees biography or, included in the things that could be seized, things that caused abortion. we have not been forced to do. it is considered something that has been dead for a very long time. and yet we are seeing, by the way,, and oral argument in this very case that may be the comstock act is operative and maybe it has applications for this case. we have expressly heard from people who want to see it in a republican administration invoked immediately not just to go after abortion pills but the kinds of devices that are used in surgical abortions that also have to travel through the mail. i think we just need to be very, very clear and this goes to the ways in which these zombie was from the 19th century are coming back to life and being cited as though they are good law, that this law on day one could be, could have new life breathed into it and be used to say okay, that's it. we don't need to wait for the courts, we don't need to wait for kacmarik. we can prosecute anyone. we need to be mindful of just what happened today but what could happen. what is especially being promised is on the menu if donald trump wins the election. >> you know, knowledge is strength and strength is knowledge and dahlia, it is important that we know about these zombie flaws and so much more. i thank you, dolly olympic, katie phang, dr. patel for being with us and bringing us the light of knowledge. up next, new reaction coming in from capitol hill, including from the house speaker, as well as, and i'm just seeing this right now, from the white house. i'm going to read it to you, if you will let me do so. "today's decision does not change the fact that the fight for reproductive freedom continuance. it does not change the fact that the supreme court overturned roe v. wade two years ago and women lost the fundamental freedom. it does not change the fact that the right for a woman to get the treatment she needs is imperiled, if not impossible in many states." i will wait for you more of what the white house has to say in just moments. we are also following the latest developments as donald trump visits capitol hill, including what he just said about abortion. you are watching jose diaz- balart reports on msnbc. c. ♪♪ using our 35 plus years of pharmacy benefits management experience to save businesses billions while boosting medication adherence. helping plan sponsors and their members be at their best. that's wonder made possible. evernorth health services. you know what's brilliant? boring. think about it. boring is the unsung catalyst for bold. what straps bold to a rocket and hurtles it into space? boring does. boring makes vacations happen, early retirements possible, and startups start up. because it's smart, dependable, and steady. all words you want from your bank. for nearly 160 years, pnc bank has been brilliantly boring so you can be happily fulfilled... which is pretty un-boring if you think about it. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it's time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. 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>> we don't have all the details of it just yet but the idea of it really is that biden is trying to give assurances to ukraine in the face of russian aggression, something that is short of nato membership, something where it feels to russia, a message to russia that the u.s. has ukraine's back as well for the next 10 years. we will provide them with weapons, we will provide them with technical assistance and intelligence cooperation. so, it is not fully an alliance but something where we have assurances where we are going to have their back. and, like i said, short of nato mentorship, the critical part of it is monica mentioned is biden doesn't know if he's going to win the election in november. although this could be undone technically by president trent, former president trump, hopefully not future president trump's, you still, it would be very difficult or ugly for a future administration to undo that. that is why president biden is trying to do this immediately and get it done before the election. >> it is interesting because, monica was talking about how there is a united feeling in the g7, how to deal with russian aggression, right. russia is not just standing by. you know, it is beefing up its ties to allies in south america. what is going on 90 miles from our shores? >> it feels a little 1962. i am glad you missed this because it is an important issue. it also shouldn't be cause for alarm at the moment. a lot of this is a reflection of an international game, if you will. a scary game but a game nonetheless. russia has moved warships on wednesday. they moved warships to cuba for joint exercises with the cuban regime. and they are expected to leave next monday. it is something the u.s. is monitoring very closely but they are not concerned because these are not warships that carry nuclear missiles. it is really more part of a show of force. when that show of force is happening is it is in response to the u.s. approval to ukrainian authorities to use u.s. weapons to target russian targets right outside the second largest city in ukraine, which russia is pounding from within russia's borders. two ukraine's defense, the u.s. has allowed the crane to use american weapons only to target those targets right across the border, not to target the kremlin or anything else. russia felt it had to show something in response, do something in response. they came out with a lot of bluster. when they look at their tools and the options they have, this, to me, it's a logical step. they are going to try to do something that shows we are here, we are not afraid to move our ships, here is an ally of ours. that something is expected to escalate any further. >> i am all with you on that. the images of a nuclear powered submarine going into havana harbor, three warships with subsonic missiles on board is a pretty clear message by russia as to who they see as their allies and what they are willing to do to keep and maintain that friendship agreement not only to cuba, what is going on in venezuela and nicaragua and so many other places. hagar chemali, thank you for being with us. always a treat to speak with you. >> thanks. , state of emergency in south florida. more than 20 inches of rain have fallen in this area in just the last couple of days. hundreds stranded on the streets. so many houses have been flooded. this is a real huge crisis. we will be checking in with sam brock and that is him right there pushing the cart out of some of the most affected areas. sam brock, correspondent and aaa help. you are watching jose diaz- balart reports on msnbc. lexe they need has always felt... just out of reach. ♪♪ at evernorth, we give members unrivaled access to the most complex therapies at the best prices. while providing enhanced support like in—home nursing at no additional cost. that's wonder made possible. evernorth health services. ♪ [suspenseful music] trains. 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i spoke with that officer. he told me 200 cars were towed. just by this area. they are expecting that to jump to 300. there are still a few here. the mayor did brief the media and the public. she said, no mandatory evacuations, no shelters opened. they are anticipating heavy rainfall. they want folks to be cautious. i in a pickup truck right now. there's a foot of water. half the deaths are because people try to drive through areas they should not be trying to pass. please keep that in mind in the days ahead. back to you. >> sam, i saw this video that we showed earlier about you helping somebody out there. i feel so terrible for the many people who have lost their automobiles and so many homes that were flooded. hopefully -- you are saying that maybe we gotta be prepared for more. sam, thank you very much for that. bill, what is it that we should be prepared for? >> a burst of heavy rain later this afternoon. with it comes the high risk of flash flooding. the reason why sam was bringing it up is because the majority of fatalities happen when you are in high risk. that's the level of concern. we have thunderstorms forming. they started on the west coast. they will make their way to south florida. it's pouring right now from ft. myers to naples. one or two inches an hour. we will watch flash flood warnings issues. it's beginning in naples. ft. myers is in the midst of it, too. as we track this, it does bring it to the miami area southward from 2:00 or 3:00 this afternoon and ending by about 7:00. fort lauderdale, down in north miami that got hit yesterday, that will be about midafternoon. it won't take much. it's not like a typical florida day. the ground cannot take anymore. >> bill karins, thank you very much. appreciate it. up next, new calls for president biden to protect dreamers. we will talk with a congresswoman whose husband is a dreamer. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports." diaz-balart reports. 56 past the hour. more now on the breaking news. the supreme court ruling the abortion pill mifepristone can stay on the market. joining us now, ramirez. thank you for being with us. your reaction to the supreme court decision. >> relieved. that was the first thing that i think -- i took a big deep breath of relief. we know this is obvious, i'm glad that it was a decision by the consensus. it doesn't mean they will not continue to attack us and try to bring more extreme legal actions against reproductive justice, reproductive work. we have to make sure we stay alert and we continue to do the work until we codify roe v. wade. >> i want to talk about daca. it's 12 years saturday. you are married to a daca recipient, one of hundreds of thousands of dreamers in legal limbo. what does it mean for you and hip and so many others? >> the anniversary is a reminder we don't have a pathway to citizenship. it's a reminder that they still have deferred action. it could be taken from them at any given time. congress still hasn't acted. it hasn't created a pathway to citizenship. i have to look into my husband's eyes and it's a reminder every week that it's another week that i wasn't able to deliver a pathway to citizenship for him and so many thousands and thousands of daca recipients who is why we know that the president has to act in absence of congressional action. >> what are you asking of the president? >> look, first of all, people have to recertify and resubmit their application every two years. we should make this automatic. if the information hasn't changed, if they don't have a criminal record, make it easier for daca recipients to renew their daca. the idea that we have to get an attorney, we have to pay fees, we have to do that. is the officer -- is the office going to approve my status in time to keep working? that shouldn't happen. one of the things we want to do is do that. the second thing we talk about is, how do we modernize daca? the idea that there are thousands and thousands of young people who would be eligible but because they didn't meet the 2012 date are unable to get daca is unacceptable to me. 80% of americans want to see a citizenship for daca recipients. we are asking for that. there's a number of other things we are asking for. opportunities to be able to give officers the authority to begin adjustment for daca recipients. how is it possible that in this country where all they know is the united states that they have to continue to live in the shadows, that they can't work in the capitol where a wife of a dreamer works? we have to do everything we can in administrative action, while i'm with my palm card walking up and down the floor during session getting the last of the democrats that haven't signed on to become co-sponsors of the bill. >> congresswoman ramirez, thank you for being with us. i appreciate your time. let's continue our conversation going forward. >> thank you. absolutely. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can watch clips from our show at youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. i will be back here at 1:00 p.m. eastern. 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