an hour from landing in philadelphia tonight after playing to fall at a cemetery in france which donald trump reportedly wants said was filled with losers and suckers. gerry connolly of the affairs committee and historian barbara f walter join me to discuss this study in contrast on implications for global stability. inside the biden camp lane with his re-election effort in full swing in the first presidential nabet debate a few weeks away. campaign senior advisor and senior spokesperson is here to talk about the biden-harris game plan ahead. my sendoff panel, former congressman and donna edwards have a punchbowl news will weigh in on everything from donald trump's probation interview tomorrow to notable comments on the other sunday shows. and you know we are going to discuss this comment from rudy giuliani about funding lewis. >> i've got two prosecutors. i am jonathan capehart. this is "the sunday show." >> resident biden is flying back from france at this hour after a five day trip highlighting america's fight for freedom and democracy abroad. biden began his visit with the speech honoring the soldiers who stormed the beaches at normandy and defeated fascism. earlier today, the president stopped by the world war i cemetery outside paris where he praised the nato alliance that has secured peace for the past eight decades. >> i acknowledge that the best way to avoid these battles in the future is to stay strong with our allies. do not break, do not break. >> 80 years of relative peace especially in europe is a historical aberration. we have been able to maintain peace because of institutions like nato area created within a sustained bite leadership from the united states from residents of both parties. we cannot take this piece or world order for granted and many fear it is under threat right now. biden's days long tribute to democracy was also eight peer review to donald trump and selfishness he has shown on the world stage. in 2018, trump them infamously refused to enter the cemetery where. the atlantic reported then "trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor american war debt." trump said, and why should i go to the cemetery? it is filled with losers. john kelly, a retired four start marine general also confirmed that conversation to cnn but trump denies it ever happened, calling the story "made up" at a rally in las vegas today. he also complemented viktor orban and shared his own dark vision of the world order. >> the world is going to look up to us with respect. they are not going to be laughing at us. right now, they are laughing at us. you are closer right now to world war 3 than you have ever been and this is no longer army tanks going back and forth shooting world war two. these are nuclear weapons and the power of which has never been seen before. >> trumps about nuclear war comes less than 24 hours before he will be sitting down with a probation officer in new york. nbc news is exclusively reporting that trump will be interviewed tomorrow as part of the presentencing requirements for his criminal conviction. as biden prepares for a g7 summit in italy this week, trump will be focused on securing his own freedom because as dana writes in the washington post today, trump is serving the highest cause himself. joining me now is democratic congress meant gerry connolly of virginia. he is a member of the foreign affairs committee and a senior member of the house oversight committee. congressman connolly, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. let's start with the breaking news out of israel where achy ryle rival of benjamin netanyahu. benny gantz just resigned from the war cabinet. what could this mean for cease- fire negotiations? >> i hope it puts more pressure on benjamin netanyahu to agree to his own government's proposal for cease-fire agreement that president biden has been. i think the loss of benny gantz really a time where he desperately needs it but i do think it's going to put, and i hope it does, political pressure on benjamin netanyahu to end the fighting and the killing and come to an agreement so hostages can be released and civilians can try to restore their lives. >> hundreds of palestinians were killed in the raid that rescued the four israeli hostages yesterday. how might that impact these fire negotiations? >> i think the initial response is joint celebration. at the release of four hostages, who have been there for eight months. that is to be celebrated. but the loss of life occurred in doing that is something that is horrifying and i would hope that the israeli military and the israeli government take a moment of reflection about the high cost of their operations generally in gaza. >> one more question before we turn to domestic issues, there is also talk of opening up another front in the north to deal with lebanon. would that be a wise thing for israel to do? >> i am not a military adviser but i think israel has his hands full with the operations of god and the opposition to open up a third front on the lebanese border would the military in ways with the war of 1973. i hope it can be avoided. >> let's turn our attention statewide. reports on how terrified europe is about the second trump presidency. writing "one word came up again and again when i asked european officials about the stakes of the american election: existential." here's what senator tom cotton had to say about ending the current war on european soil in ukraine. watch this. >> the way to have peace in europe and for that matter, peace and stability around the world is to remove joe biden from the white house on election day this year and return donald trump. >> congressman, why shouldn't europeans be afraid with comments like that? >> they should be and they are. i have been very involved in nato, the elementary assembly for the last decade plus, and i can tell you i have never seen europeans as anxious about american politics as they are right now. everything is at stake. as you indicated in your opening, nato has ironically worked. it has kept the peace for most of 80 years. it is the one thing will respect. because of article 5 that has we mean it. and he has respected that. he has respected nothing else but that. to actually call into question the viability and utility and advocacy of nato when it's working and we've got a war going on is really reckless. i do nothing any european was going to turn tom cotton for advice as we go forward. article 5 has been invoked only once in nato's history. meanwhile, far right parties significant games in parliament for the elections today. so much so that french president matt cronk announced today that he would the nations parliament and call for snap elections and this is significant because his current term does not end until 2027. are the far right forces gaining record support in europe as much a threat as trump 2.0 in washington. >> i think there's a lot of variety among generically what is called the right in europe. obviously, it is alarming to see these kinds of far right parties making gains near european elections. they are sometimes the second boat. they might not vote for the people that govern their country but it's a free book to someone. it is a way of expressing dissatisfaction the status quo. obviously, it reflects deep concern about the immigration issue in europe and we have to take note of that and respect that is about an issue going forward. >> up an issue in europe but americans should look at what is happening in europe. american officials look at what is happening in europe and take heed. yes. >> we cannot afford to ignore what is happening in europe. it does not necessarily mean but ethically that will happen here but it does not mean nothing. it is resonating with voters and we got a cognizance of that. >> gerry connolly of virginia, member of the foreign affairs committee and senior member of the oversight committee, as always, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. joining me now, barbara f walter, the professor of international relations at the university of california san diego. she is the author of how civil wars start and how to stop them. barbara, thank you very much for coming back to "the sunday show." is it to me or does it feel to you that trump's rhetoric has kicked into a whole new gear and how significant is it that his high-ranking followers are openly calling for the prosecution of trump's enemies? >> the evidence is very clear. if you go back and you listen to tapes and watch videos of trump, he's a very different person today. what he is saying is different than in 2016. he is much more aggressive. he is using much more negative hate with threatening language. he is a bully and steroids today. one of the things we also know from lots of research is the rhetoric matters. especially violent rhetoric. if you have leaders who begin to normalize the idea that violence is legitimate, their supporters believe it and some of them actually follow through with it so it's not agnostic, it's not a game. this is not something that has no repercussions. if you have somebody like trump who so many people idolize and who so many people believe is their hero and is going to save them. he is telling them that the only way to save america is through violence. the only way that they will not be in danger is if they take back their country. they are going to believe him. >> the washington post is a front-page story. the former trump director who wrote in an essay quote we are living in a post-constitutional time. according to the post, "he has helped craft proposals for donald trump to deploy the military to quash civil unrest, sees more control over the justice department, and assert the power to withhold congressional appropriations. that is just on trump's first day back in office." barbara, why should americans be very concerned about this? >> again, history tells us a lot. it used to be that the way that came to power in democracies was through military. they got the military to help them. that is not the case in the 21st century. today, the most likely way that can take control of democracy is through legal means. they play the democratic game. they get elected. they build a base. they tell people that they're going to save them from all these bad things that could happen to them. they convince them that democracy is maybe not the best system. it is not efficient, effective. and they slowly withdraw the guardrails of democracy. one of the reasons why trump is so in awe of viktor orban, the leader of hungry is that he is really, the very first 21st- century leader to do this and he did it masterfully. it's almost as if he wrote the book on it. trump has met with him a number of times and i suspect that one of the things that they are talking about is how we can do this in the united states. we know that organizations like the heritage foundation have crafted very lengthy manuals for how the republicans can do this in 2024 if trump wins. >> right. it's called project 2025. barbara f walter, as always, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. >> it is my pleasure, thank you. coming up, the view from inside president biden's re- election campaign. adrian, senior advisor and senior spokesperson for the biden-harris campaign joins me in the studio to talk about their strategy on issues like border security, the economy, and the war in gaza. how performers are helping to lead the charge against the attacks on the lgbtq+ community. you are watching "the sunday show" on msnbc . . inez, let me ask you, you're using head and shoulders, right? 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>> i think so. part of what we wanted to really emphasize in that ad is under president biden, you have the freedom to live under a democracy. you have the freedom to make your own economic decisions. before, obviously trump put supreme court justices on the court. women had the freedom to make our own reproductive health decisions. that freedom was taken away solely because of donald trump. part of what that ad is doing is connecting all the dots. we currently have the freedom to live under a democracy but donald trump steps back in the white house, democracy will be at risk and i think when you saw president biden, who had an incredible week overseas honoring our fallen, honoring the 80th anniversary, really reinforcing how important democracy is. 80 years ago, americans and our allies fought to protect democracy and spread democracy across the world. none democracy is at risk more than it has in the last 80 years. weeding all these things together, talking about the freedoms that we have. the freedoms that we will not have it president trump wins this election. president biden values and we will continue to hear the message throughout the next five months. >> why the president was in france yesterday, thousands of pro-palestinian protesters rallied outside the white house urging the president to halt military aid to israel and calling for a cease-fire in gaza. how are these persistent protests weighing on the campaign? >> first of all, president biden, unlike president trump supports the freedom of speech and the freedom of expression. these protesters are exercising their rights and that is their right to do. that being said, we certainly understand it is a challenge. president biden is certainly fighting for every vote. he is not taking anything for granted. look. this is the freedom that people have going back to the message of freedom. they have the right to protest, they have the right to speak their mind. he's not to take anything for granted and i think it's also important to keep in mind, jonathan during these challenging times on the foreign policy, the global front, can you imagine having donald trump back in the white house trying to manage all of this? president biden is a seasoned foreign-policy pro. he served as the chair on the committee for a long time. he has these relationships with world leaders that go very, very deep. we're going to be reinforcing the fact that that is an important attribute that the president has. at the same time, were to be working hard for every vote. >> one thing that can make a little problematic is that the president's new executive action on the border was temporarily halting asylum requests once the average number of daily encounters tops 2500 points of entry. strong criticism from all quarters. on both sides of the aisle. are you afraid of alienating progressive voters who argue that this policy is too harsh? >> no. here's the bottom line. congress did not act. because their supreme leader, donald trump did not allow them to. said we will not pass the most historic bipartisan bill that is come forward in congress for 10 years because they did not want joe biden, president biden to have a win. they do not want him to have a political win. president biden has to use every lever that he can in the white house to do something about the border.. americans know democrats and republicans understand that there is a crisis at the border and it has to get solved. if congress is not going to act and block progress on this, especially the most progress that we could've had over a decade and president biden is going to use every lever at his disposal and try to make some change. this is really important executive action last week. it's something that has to take place and unfortunate that congress will not act. hopefully they still will. there is time to come to the table and that is where we are. >> i got to get you on. two questions because we are running out of time. great economic news for the country but for the president, 272,000 new jobs created. this is more than economists expected. employment remains below 4%. but biden supporters, some of them are complaining that they are not hearing about any of this. watch this. >> you are not the first person who is a biden supporter that is told me that the president is not necessarily communicating is a compliment. >> he is not. >> talk to me about that. why do you think he is not d