new york. welcome in to "alex witt we reports". we begin at the top of the order following three breaking stories. an nbc exclusive that donald trump will be interviewed by a probation officer tomorrow. we have more on that in a moment. new details on israel hostage rescue on saturday. and then this just in. an benny gantz and his party resigning from the israeli war cabinet, a huge development. we have more on that in a moment. meanwhile, gaza's ministry of health says more than 270 sa palestinians were killed yesterday, 700 injured. israelis officials are disputing this number. new reaction to the number of on palestinians killed. >> civilians were killed. that is tragic. it is heartbreaking. i said before that the palestinian people are going through hell in this war. they are caught in the crossfire. hamas hides among civilian infrastructure, they ghhide underground.tu it puts the palestinian people t in harm's way. pe >> when we snatched the hostages, when we extracted them out, the forces came under extensive attack in an attempt to kill both them and the hostages. ♪ ♪ right now, president biden was on his >>way home, having wrapped up his trip to france is to commemorate 80 years since due date -- d-day. donald trump declined to visit o the cemetery when he was president. >> the idea that we are able to avoid being engaged in major battles is just not realistic. that is why it is so important we continue to have what we have. >> we have correspondence in >> place covering all the new developments to us. let's get right to it. let's go to las vegas. le what do we know about this nbc exclusive on this new meeting tomorrow and how might the trump team prepare for this probation interview? he is kind of busy the next few hours. >> reporter: that's right. he will be taking the hostage here shortly in las vegas. he there will be temperatures up to 100 degrees today in the las vegas son -- subject. upon his return to mar-a-lago tonight, we have learned he t, will be sitting down along the virtual zoom session with the probation officer in new york for a sitdown interview. this is where the probation officer, head of his sentencing on july 11 is able to as donald trump questions about his financial background, his mental state, his ability to hie interact with other criminals and if he has any remarks about the actions that led to his conviction on the 34 felony charges. for donald trump, of course, this is a big meeting, a probation officer will ultimately prepare a report that he or she will provide to judge juan merchan to help the judge make the determination of what sentence he will hand down to donald trump july 11th. for donald trump, being on the campaign trail, this is his first public campaign speech since the conviction in your. for him, taking his message on k the campaign trail is integral h to his ability to stave off a potential prison sentence. there are a great many of supporters that understand and at largely donald trump's complaints or grievances stemming from the charges in the cases brought against him. here is one woman we talked to a few moments ago. >> reporter: donald trump, if he does get back in the white house, which won him to seek retribution against those who have brought these charges against him? >> we think about jesus christ n himself, everybody went against him because he was preaching love and doing what was right for the people. trump is doing what is right ng for this nation. because he is doing that, everybody is against him. >> reporter: marjorie taylor greene, the congresswoman from georgia, was just on stage and j inmate -- mimicked what that person just say, said jesus christ was a convicted felon and they and supporters of donald trump should do what they can d the next five months to ensure a victory in a battleground state like nevada. ev it is politically fraught. donald trump is doing what he can, understanding the justice system is working and ultimately, sentencing will happen regardless of what he or his supporters believe should be taking place or transferring -- transpiring out of this trial. -- there was a lot of noise in the background. that person you interviewed, i h thought he was actually going th to go and say donald trump was preaching love. [ laughter ] really? anyway. thank you, my friend. we will see in a bit. coming up, we will speak with e the state attorney from palm beach county, florida, about president trump probation hearing and all the information the officer will be asking him and how rare it is to be over soon. let's go to breaking news out of jerusalem. there has been a major shakeup in israel's government. you forecast this, you knew it was happening. here is what has w happened. benjamin netanyahu's rival, benny gantz, announcing his department will depart from the emergency government. how important is this? m s.t.e.m. you give me too much pocredit f predicting all this. my crystal ball is a working. this was supposed to happen last night. this announcement was made three weeks ago. benny gantz had said if he did not get to his liking some sort of guarantee from benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister, that he had a plan for the postwar governance of the gaza strip, which, by the way, has been a firm issue for the m united states and the biden administration, as well, he would resign on june 8. june 8 came around, we saw this ca hostage freeing of the four hostages, including the high profile hostage, noa argamani, one of the most famous faces, he the symbol of the hostage crisis here. yesterday just was not a good st time for benny gantz, the ti former defense minister, to step away from benjamin netanyahu's already precarious wartime cabinet but he did it today. one day later. he still said he wasn't satisfied, it sounds like, with netanyahu's plans for postwar governance of the gaza strip. go it also says it has been a problem for the biden administration. there are plans the biden administration is pushing onto the israeli government to include the palestinian authority . they are based to a point not far from where i'm standing now. the impact will be really big. benny gantz was a moderate, one of those people who stood with o the biden administration and with the missions -- officials in washington. he was rated highly in the international community, higher than netanyahu himself and is very far right cabinet. the departure will not send netanyahu 's cabinet and his administration into chaos, it will not cause more elections in israel, which this country has done several times in last couple days -- years but it will empower hard right wing members and will probably make it more difficult for the israelis to come sort of concession or compromise with hamas in the gaza strip. ha that will make it more likely, more unreachable to see some kind of peace deal, some kind ac of peace fire. the biden administration is everybody else in the world is enpushing the israeli government to do this. secretary of state antony blinken will come here to israel in the coming week making stops in the region, ki trying to shore up the tr negotiation deal to free the remaining more than 80 hostages still thought to be alive in t the gaza strip, even after the rescue yesterday of those four and possibly bring an end to the conflict in the gaza strip. this latest development in the last couple of minutes makes that even out of reach more. >> let me read you two quotes. one of them came in while you have been talking. the first one is from prime minister gantz and that news conference he made this statement. netanyahu prevents us from moving forward to a real victory. that is why we are rdleaving th emergency government with a heavy heart , but with a whole heart. netanyahu posting on next, his response is, israel is in an x essential worker oh -- on many fronts. this is the time to join e forces. he goes on to say his door will remain open to any zionist party member that is willing to come back into the fold. having said that, i think i should thank you for your report on we will see you in the next hour. let's go to kelly o'donnell in paris where the president departed a few hours ago. he is on his way back to the u. s. welcome. what do we hear from the president today about his historic trip next >> reporter: well, this is been a trip the president has been able to lean in on issues that are important in the national conversation beckham, in the election season. by doing it from a bworld stag perspective, obviously, the president has been celebrating the long relationship between the united states and france. th he has honor the memories of or the world war ii veterans by r attending d-day commemorations. today he went to a cemetery about an hour outside paris that is the restingplace for world war i marines. ri the president notably made this trip. he will explain why in a moment. in terms of not so recent history, the last five years, hi president trump, when he was in office and came here to france, it would not go to the cemetery. it was a notable contrast, although the president today did not talk about that directly. the president did emphasize the strength and importance of alliances and why that matters. here's part of what he said ar when he walked over to reporters after paying his respects at the cemetery. >> the idea that we are able to avoid being engaged in major battles in europe is just ba unrealistic. that is why it is so important we continue to have the alliances we have, continue to beef up those alliances, continue to keep nato strong and continue to do what we have been able to do for the last, since the end of world war ii. >> reporter: the president has had many times where he talked about the concerns of isolationism and the importance of partnerships, like the european friendships he has developed here in france, certainly with nato. next week the president will go to the g7 in italy, another way for him to strengthen and emphasize those partnerships and what they mean. rt his basic argument has been that when the united states has strong alliances, it makes the country safer. that is, of course, an obvious o contrast to the america first approached donald trump talks about at home. the president was careful not to invoke or talk about donald trump will he was you on foreign soil. alex? >> kelly o'donnell, safe travels, my friends. legal analysis ahead of yo ll donald trump's date with the probation officer tomorrow. we are back in 90 seconds. out t. you're a dirt nerd. huge dirt nerd. i'm proud of it! 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"axios" did an analysis of about 50 of trump's speeches and found he talks about policy only 11% of the time. you can imagine the other 90% . a lot of it is filled with rants about his legal issues. this is only feeding into them. >> if that is true and he can't avoid being very bellicose when he talks about the politics and going after how he has been wronged and blah, blah, blah, how will that hurt him at this particular interview, potentially with the sentencing, as well? will this make a stronger case for putting him behind bars or at least not making this an easy sentence for him? >> yes. trump has to be careful of what he says before july 11, the sentencing date. judge merchan can include his lack of remorse, his refusal to admit guilt, even though it is on appeal, there are things he could say to show he is humble and respects the court and jury's opinion. he is out there just vilifying everyone and threatening revenge and retribution. the judge should take that into account. for any other defendant who had no prior rap sheet, this low level felony, class c felony, would likely get probation. there is a good chance trump will have the possibility of incarceration because of his conduct. also, it is more likely he could get house arrest. i just cannot envision him wearing an orange jumpsuit at rikers island. >> [ laughter ] i can see your point. sophia, senator marco rubio said it was time to fight fire with fire. other trump allies are pushing republican prosecutors across the country to start targeting democrats and getting at them. what are you hearing from the campaign trail about this? >> so i can tell you that, you know, for everything that his, you know, more conservative allies are saying, his campaign advisors, privately i hear from his allies, they tell me he really shouldn't be talking about retribution. the more this election is about trump, the more likely he will lose. you know, there are republicans who recognize that if the election is a referendum on biden, trump has a better chance. if he keeps talking about himself, you know, he will have problems. as it pertains to this hearing with the probation officer, the probation officer will be considering, you know, these factors. has the defendant shown remorse? has the defendant shown a good character witness? has he shown good context otherwise? those are big questions and problems for trump tomorrow. >> here's another question for you, dave. donald trump has indicated he intends to appeal a new much money conviction, new headline suggested could be a wild card depending on a huge october surprise. is that something he should be worried about? >> i actually think trump has a 50-50 chance on prevailing on appeal. there are questions on at the state prosecutor can lean on federal campaign finance law, we just don't know. was judge mershon right to lead stormy daniels to go into such dirty details about a sexual encounter? that could be unnecessarily prejudicial to trump. there are some due process issues, also with the jury instructions. there is a real possibility this thing could get overturned but not for a while. there is no way this could happen before the election. i think trump will be a convicted felon at the time he is on the ballot. there is a possibility later in 2025 it could get overturned but i don't see that happening anytime soon. >> rocha, sophia, trump campaign officials, anyone concerned at all about a new potential prison sentence in july? trump does not want that. i continue for a fact. he is a huge germophobe. he does not want that. another reason, i think of course, the secret service, the campaign has prepared for the unlikely possibility that will happen. but, you know, realistically, we probably won't see him in jail. -- okay, sophia cai and dave aronberg, good to but, as always. brutal heat is gripping parts of the country. how people are coping and when there will be relief next. ef n. to give your teeth a dentist clean feeling. start with a round brush head. add power. and you've got oral-b. round cleans better by surrounding each tooth to remove 100% more plaque. for a superior clean. oral-b. brush like a pro. 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