donald trump, now convicted felon, stands across these three criminal enterprises . we made this based on our legal analysis and reported it for the first time last night but the underlying facts are known but here they are together. the leaders have been convicted of serious crimes across quite a long range of time. trump's new convection is still sinking in across the nation and the process will play out. he is awaiting sentencing. it completes this picture of criminality that surrounds him because of the people he picked and whom he often stood with and they stood by him as long as they divide police and law enforcement and defended him, they stay together. this band of, quite literal, convicted felons. criminals. while last week was understandably first focused on the conviction of one man, in order to see the broad reality you have to see how his conviction did cap off these years of crimes by many people across different enterprises. only now is he joining those other aids in the life of a convicted felon and learning about what that entails. so, this was the most significant verdict of many unanimous verdicts across the three enterprises on the screen and going to say this briefly before turn to the new stuff. it's a conviction that comes after juries and independent problems led to the convictions of his longest serving adviser, camping chair, top personal lawyer and top campaign loyal and other lawyers and the cfo of his company, the company liable for fraud and his own criminal business. i can say it slower or faster but it's a lot. some of those people have gone through their punishment and they never really talk bad about trump, or honestly shed what they went through and what they did. and were later rewarded by president trump. at the time, used his pardon power to help paul manafort, you see marching there with handcuffs. others went from the top, trump white house, to what many see as the legal bottom, federal prism and that's where peter navarro is right now after defined january 6 investigators who merely wanted information under oath about the plots he publicly admitted to joining. others have confessed and await trial for their on january 6 activities like trump himself who awaits trial along with this gang you see here. so many of these people have a huge need to discredit or out right stop these very probes that i just showed you pick some of which are continuing. there liberty may depend on it and especially the liberty of convicted felon donald trump, remember if convicted on the other trial, you won't hear about first offender lenient sentencing because he won't be first. he faces one of the widest variations of outcomes you could imagine if you were writing a story or movie script. he could win back the white house and be the most powerful person in the world again, or you could lose the campaign and base his current pending sentencing and faces of the trials that would carry jail time if convicted, and being a double or triple offender, almost certainly federal prison if he were convicted in that instance. trump awaits sentencing for, remember, crime committed all the way back in 2015-16. the tabloid plots and all the sordid details. it is now a legal fact that the justice system determined he was committing that crime before ever becoming president, just like michael cohen was convicted for crimes around that period and beforehand. two of the enterprises i've been reporting on include people convicted for crimes back then before you get to 2020 and the trump election. so most of these maga convicts are still loyal to trump and imagining this for reason tonight . they don't openly talk about continuing the crime spree that's been documented there. they don't admit they got caught and some long running operation. what they do, and this brings us to the new things i will tell you about tonight, they almost like reading from the same script and playbook will falsely claim these cases are all only a response to their engagement in politics. that is false. they claim they face this conspiracy of payback. i want you to keep that lens in mind for the news am going to go through today because trump has long bowed illegal acts and abusing power to target political opponents, that is his thing. and he has been bowing it since he stepped on the national stage, since he was talking about running in 2015 and ran in 2016. so as a factual matter, it's what he is been about an been doing. it's not new and it's not factually a response to any other later prosecution of him and his aides. it was one of his efforts to break rules and laws and normalize these attacks on the rule of law, which he said back then and later tried to enact in office. >> she should be locked up. tell you right now. >> for what she's done, they should lock her up. >> because you would be in jail. >> secretary clinton -- >> president trump on twitter today suggested fired fbi director james comey should be sent to jail. >> these people should be indicted and that includes obama and biden. >> lock up the bidens. lock up hillary >> so crooked hillary -- wait -- you should lock her up. i tell you. >> trump was the first major candidate in the modern era to publicly admit he wanted to prosecute his opponents because they were his opponents. another way of saying that is to abuse power to prosecute the innocent because you think it will help you. and that is illegal and unconstitutional and you can go to jail for it. that's a longer discussion. even nixon always denied that goal in public. those bows i just showed you were widely reviewed at the time and remember in 2016 people underestimated trump because they really did not pay would win. but at the time we pulled this republican doj republicans were alarmed. nonpartisan experts warned it was dictator rhetoric. washington post warned patient terrify all of us in october 16 when the polls and the expert said trump was down but they were going out of their way to say if you were to take this seriously, it's terrifying but a lot of that was underestimated. trump ran on that and in office pushed for it. but even a president under traditional rules cannot single- handedly launch an fbi investigation or physically arrest people. as a first-term president, donald trump needed the fbi and agents for that kind of thing and it clashed with then fbi director james comey about these likely illegal demands, among other things. james comey kept records and evidence concurrently at the time and it showed improved trump sought to corrupt prose within the fbi and other things. separate independent reporting sound then president trump asked is on top white house lawyer to get clinton indicted just as he tried to abuse federal powers to punish perceived opponents like jeff bezos of the washington post, the parent company of cnn, and other officials, news organizations, witnesses. these are just some of the people right here. trump called for a probe of former obama official onetime presidential candidate john kerry, saying he should be prosecuted and indicted. trump went from badgering then director comey to be his earlier enforcer to try to turn those same powers against comey after trump ousted him. that same new york times article accorded from reported trump told the white house counsel he wanted to prosecute two of his political adversaries to mcclinton and comey and even took its efforts international. everyone knows the multipronged effort to get a biden investigation he had no hope of having that started in the u.s. out of the blue but he then thought maybe ukraine could go after biden and his son. that snowballed to the entire first impeachment. so trump was often thwarted in some of those most extreme demands pick sometimes because there are things he doesn't control. he has leverage over ukraine but could not start an international probe out of ukraine. that failed. and he cannot get all the doj stuff done. there was no clinton or comey indictment. i bet you know that there but witnesses and other evidence does show how after trump demanded legal trouble for his opponents and especially after he ousted some of the nonpartisan officials i mentioned, he got more loyalists in there pick some of this stuff already started to work. if you have a maga who says this is one-sided, put recent history to the side and go to the last administration history under trump enteral agencies did probe comey and another fbi official. faced tax audits with the irs says that it was not a response. andrew mccabe faced a full criminal probe and a grand jury . there were reports that trump's doj officials tried to get him indicted but cannot close the deal. john kerry also faced a separate full-blown doj probe and that's just some of what we know about from reports. trump got loyalists in two doj so you can move on those things up to a point but the system did have other safeguards. grand jury. judges you know about. you get to a trial, juries. it's a multistep process that does make it hard to even turn, perhaps, and unlawfully instigate a probe into a conviction. that trump's record in just one term. now he's convicting himself. now he is in more trouble than before. and now he is continuing with the same long-running effort to intimidate and abuse power and go after opponents if he gets back into power. and everything i just told you, which i admit took a few minutes but that's a summary of many months and years of trump doing this and harassing people and abusing power so it is what it is but i wanted you to hear that first because the top story tonight is in the national papers and news outlets donald trump continuing this same thing. with one trump twist and lie. he and his allies are claiming this continuation, which are show you is what they have been up to the whole time you now claim it some kind of new response to trump's conviction. and i will tell you before i get to what they say, and it will show you what they say as a matter of news but sometimes there's an important context because a lot of what they are saying rests on lies and spin perks up when we get to the maga lies let me tell you why this matters. they're pushing this for two reasons . one, it's a last ditch, desperate looking effort to undercut trump's own conviction atop all these others. so this is a way to try to get people thinking or mishearing that it's all politics. all these verdicts are some kind of liberal version of what he had about and vows to do but that would be like nixon standing up after all the water gate figures were convicted and people who followed evidenced saying, now we know what happened and nixon would say, these democratic witch-hunts are dangerous. it could happen to you next. you could say it but it doesn't make it true. the second reason tonight that this is such a big story is trump is trying to launder and normalize his own abuses if he gets back into power. justifying anything he would do if elected as the overdue payback for him and his fellow victims in the system but that's why he's talked more about pardoning random people. he talked about at a libertarian convention recently. what is that? he's never taken a big interest in these issues in general and this isn't some original idea of his. this is plagiarized right out of the classic authoritarian playbook from europe to the philippines, where you play victim. you say if you get in trouble or is held accountable for things you actually did is actually a witch hunt and you use that to do the things that were done to you to others. there's a reason it's so familiar and in some ways maddening, but no one said holding onto democracy would be easy. that's your introduction to the bigness tonight which are headlines across all kinds of big outlets and you can see the new york times, the ap, washington post. axios. one of the new places. the new york times. gop push for post version playback. then you have the washington post on this aggressive effort in the wake of the trump conviction. it's true but i would point out the headline like the new york times might lean a little far into the maga spin. you just heard with your own ears how much trump has been vowing to do this. his entire life and national politics from at least 2015. it's not a response. it's not the wake of the trump conviction, it's a continuation the associated press reporting republicans now val to indict the left. as if this is just an exchange of activity. or take the hill, which reports they are targeting the fbi and any prosecutors who are dealing with trump. some outlets have even missed the obvious conflict of interest. take convicted felon steve bannon. he is vowing that d.a. alan bragg will be jailed and at times he's been identified, am not trying to single out an outlet, but sometimes identified as a white house aide or trump guy and he has a podcast. but as i mentioned earlier, steve bannon is a convicted felon slated to go to federal prison so you can bet he will say what he can say to go after these types of prosecutors speaker mike johnson is trying to legislate or plan based on this grievance. jim jordan says they want to make the a bragg testified before congress. a form of national meddling. conservatives say that federalism means states and localities are autonomous and usually once thing there should be no federal intervention. trump would rather talk about this hypothetical payback than his own verdict this week and his own living sentencing. mr. bannon , even more explicit because he may have even more to lose and more of a rush he's actually been sentenced to federal prison and is appealing that right now saying prosecutors of the ones that you go to jail. and trump and interviews is finding that rhetorical ground where is not exactly saying what bannon is saying. he's always trailing people by a little bit but he is lying about the clinton history the claimant he held back. he did not hold back. he tried to have her indicted. vaguely threatening more of what i told you he's been up to the whole time if he gets a second term. >> it's a terrible, terrible path that they are leading us to pick and it's very possible that it's going to have to happen to them. >> if he thinks he said regarding hillary clinton. lock her up. >> could've done it. so i may feel different about it. >> fact checked. in the first term he could not have done it. it's a lie. trump officials that he tried and failed to get her indicted. not that he held back his effort to constance been picked him as he takes the lawson tries to put it different version on it. the people held him back on at the people who held the line. he held the line and could've done it. and that new york times start reports people in the room, federalist society members, who testified about various aspects of this. so that's a lie. how people hear about this matters. do people, as we go from this inflection point of conviction onto a debate in a couple weeks and trump sentencing and a lot of the stuff this is what the summer will be partly like. do people hear these legal facts and no trump's past efforts to abuse power? or do they hear him just selling all this as the new response and think, well, that's true or is kind of true or they see headlines about payback in the new york times and think, here we go again. both sides. maga-curious voters may want to hear it that way or minimize. not everyone who might ever vote red republican trump is signed on to the conspiracy theories. a lot of people are still moved by facts. that's precisely why donald trump hoped people would wrongly think that was a fact about certain opponents being investigated or convicted because it would help him. he understands that people listen to the criminal justice process and when there are verdicts, they definitely do. this is white b began the story with trump's crimes and the crimes by his people and the people he chose, and a long- running abuse of power plots. now, i do want to mention the new york times did document the history of the abuse of power as a central part of understanding the story. seeking retribution through the justice system is familiar for trump, the paper writes, while prison he repeatedly told etsy wanted doj to indict his enemies. the open various investigations of trump's adversaries but did not ultimately bring charges, infuriating trump and contribute to a split in 2020 with his ag bill barber the article continues, the open desire for using the criminal justice system against democrats after the verdict surpasses anything seen before in terms tumultuous years in national politics. i want to read that again because you can believe your eyes. you can believe tv news but the new york times doesn't write this every day. if they did, people would call them out. the open desire for using the system against democrats after the verdict surpasses anything seen before in terms tumultuous years in national politics. okay. a new low. what's different now is the range of republicans saying retaliation is necessary and no longer cloaking their intent with euphemisms." p that's about right. the euphemisms, the spin, that stuff is long over. forget the dog whistles. republicans let the dogs out. blunt threats. autocratic plots. and that very familiar, desperate and possibly dangerous , cry when the guilty -- and i use that word legally -- convicted felons. the guilty are on the run. they don't have much left but they are now claiming they are the true victims and everyone better watch out because they will try to intimidate, hurt, destroy other people, people who served in government. if they get away with it, maybe the rule of law and our government itself. it's that serious. we have michael steele and john flannery, experts on both aspects of this when we are back. is that tiny troy? the ingredients in head and shoulders keep the microbes that cause flakes at 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he's harmless here the facts are though the convictions. why is he in so much trouble? it's his behavior. you don't just drag a former president into court because you think you want to go after him. there has to be some there there and the reality is their goal is not heavy look at the stuff that's there. the sum and substance of what he wants to do. project 2025 plan. but others are out here saying on his behalf. look, he is the word. he is using the word dictator. those aren't words put in his mouth by other people. so now the challenge of wills, if you will, is the fight between dumbing this down enough so people just believe he won't do it, and those of us who are trying to get the plank and the fog and whatever is in people's eyes out of there so they can see that yes, he will. >> yeah. john? >> well, first of all i do appreciate that your simile is excellent. more people should replay that and think about it because that's what the game is all about. i was a little nostalgic when i saw your chart up there of my early drug cases putting up large charts with members of the so and so crime family. but it's a surprise, i think in this day and age, despite all we know and what we have been through that we can look at trump and think of a chart as the trump crime family. and the tools of coercion and terror and lying in these kinds of things to come worse outcomes, not invoking what we call due process, fundamental fairness. and they are crimes because we have laws that don't permit any of these things to happen. and we have leaders of this country who, if patrick henry could stand here today, say you promised us in the bill of rights you would keep your hands off the police powers of the state, and here you are doing this. why are you doing it? 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and then your views on what has been an escalating attack on women's rights? >> well, today's vote was really shameful. the right to contraception was due to two basic things. shrine of right to contraception and federal law that would go to individuals who need the healthcare and would also protect the providers who are providing this care. so it is basic even though there's a constitutional right to birth control, what we know today is is not safe or extremist. without republicans in the senate, many of them lined up one by one to block it ? so that was a shame. it is deeply, deeply unpopular to not protect birth control and this time. but that is more so because voters in this country know that birth control is under deep and serious threat. >> the desire to block even the floor vote sometimes also means they want this to go away. republicans want to confuse or conflate the issues because if you had a floor vote you can still vote against it. you could say if you want to as a republican senator that you want to make it easy to ban birth control, which as we just showed is not a divided issue and the american public. not dependent on gender ideology or anything else. >> it's extremely popular to access birth control in this country and this specific bill, we know, is also popular that they are trying to do two things here. they are trying to confuse the public around where it is that there are some talking generally about birth control is fine but when they have a chance to show up and protect it at a time when is under deep threat, they are nowhere to be found. they are also trying to use this moment to confuse the public, to confuse people about birth control in general, to put out this information to try to conflate contraception with abortion care. most people in this country understand that contraception, which is been enshrined in our constitution for almost 60 years, is something that we should not be fighting about. but when they were called to show up today, they were nowhere to be found and blocked the ability to actually protect it in this time of deep threat here >> understood and a big story even though it involves the blocking of the vote, is still a big story people should know what the representatives are doing in congress. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. - i got the cabin for three days. it's gonna be sweet! what? 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>> i am prepared to wail, ray. >> hello, i'm adam. that is a lot of noise you are making there. >> i got it. you are johnny flash. >> johnny cash. >> hi, want to play tag? >> sure. your it. ♪ ♪ >> wonderful. the question is, what does it mean to kids to see their fantasy puppet world intersect with the real world? and in a world that is run by adults, you know how it is, it's governments and it's all adults, and even summer on the older side although we love everybody. , but what does it mean to have material, culture that is actually produced and shared for kids? so kids may have a piece of it as they grow up. >> i think it means so much and, of course, when sesame street came along, it's revolutionary because there were some terrific shows like captain kangaroo and romper room and things like that which were aimed at kids and trying to inspire them to play and be thoughtful and those kinds of things. but they were super gentle. they skewed very young. and when they got jim henson involved with sesame street, he was someone who wanted to be funny to wanted to be entertaining. he wanted to use his puppets in that way into not necessarily think of himself as an educator, but he had a great heart. but he had been in the commercial business for 15 years. and he used a lot of the sensibilities of selling ideas, which he had learned to do and did not particularly love doing it, but he knew it was effective through humor, through the puppets, through fantasy that you could teach learning ideas. you could sell learning to kids. and that was, you know, sort of his pitch. what i did not realize was not only did he bring the puppets but he directed so many of those great short films. accounting and the letters and all that stuff. it's all using his experimental cinematic style that he was trying to make his own avagard movies, and yet, again, it was in an effort to in a smart and entertaining way to reach kids but i think you did one other thing and i can speak for my own household. when i would walk by and my kids were watching sesame street when one of those cool -- you to the beat and the call music, you would see that cutting style, he would sit down and smile and suddenly i as a parent was sit down and watch sesame street with my kids so i think it pulled families together. >> i think the project reminds everyone of that and everyone knows you go to disney films and they have multiple layers. but the muppets i'm about to take a look at really take you to the fact that we enjoy it as adults but we also tap into our inner child, which is still part of us. let's take a look at the muppet show. >> we would go to abc or cbs or whatever and try to get them interested. and invariably what what happened was they would say, those are puppets. that's kid stuff. >> my dad was very confident that the muppet show is going to be great. but the effort he had to go to to convince the industry was almost superhuman. >> why is it important for you to show that path, the early resistance? >> it was important to show the resistance that he faced throughout. he didn't necessarily -- he would get frustrated by things but he just kept working. his attitude was work around. find workarounds and just keep going and put your head down. he tried so many times with the muppets. he just believed a half hour variety show with the muppets would work. well, he was proven to be right hundred times over. but it's not surprising that he struggled because he was an outlier. and he was thinking along those lines. and buyers are often very, very cautious and a little more looking to imitate success and there was no template for what jim was pitching. but he proved it. >> and that's part of why it was so dope. there was no template and brought something. i'm going to move you onto your own movies. i know you want to talk about the latest film but a lot of people know you from these other cool films and it's her first time on the pizza let's take a look. >> this could change my entire outlook on life. >> really? >> no. >> i'm saying that when the president does it, that means it's not illegal. >> i don't believe in luck. >> do you still have an much fun making movies as the old days? the industry is under a lot of pressure. >> it's hard. it's challenging. brian grazer and i are finding it exciting because there are a lot more ways to get interesting project done and, yet, the challenge of getting something green lit is probably , you know, more extreme than it's ever been. we are having a great run with imagine. we have a lot of great people that we are working with, but there have been so many times, it took years to get friday night lights made. liar, liar. that's a movie you would think would be a no-brainer? >> was that a trump film? >> okay. [ laughter ]. that took 12 years to get made. >> it might take america 12 years. wow, the hits just keep going. >> maybe trump will turn into a musical and not a dark comedy. >> i will not be cast in and of your comedies. you mentioned brian grazer. you are here on the summit series where we talk to people at the summit of the fields. if people are asking where the muppets on the news and it's partly because i keep it real and we wanted to talk to you. if you want to talk to him, you have to talk about the muppets. that's a deal we can do. but with two minutes left before we go, i did want to play your colleague, brian was also on the summit series. you guys have done these amazing films together. you haven't seen this? here's what he said about you. >> he's so gifted as an artist at creating multiple, you know, three-dimensional characters. because he, himself, inflates people. makes them feel better about themselves. i think we are the longest partnership in hollywood history, actually. it's been like, 40 years? >> do you think about it that way? you're not just doing your work, which has talent are technical aspects, but he says you are inflating, almost enlarging people. >> i'm just fascinated by people like i'm fascinated about jim hansen and his family and his wife and all his collaborators. i look at every story. it could be action or comedy or fantasy, but i'm also most fascinated by what is the journey and what will be relatable. and back to jim henson. i think the reason he is so well remembered is satire, comedy. he is showing a mirror to us and making us realize just how silly we can be sometimes, only he is using those characters. but i think brian is right. i think we are the longest partnership in hollywood. and it still going strong. >> final question is the shortest. are you more kermit or miss piggy? >> i'm kermit. thank you for watching the beat weekend. join us weekdays at 6:00 p.m. eastern. the beat on msnbc. a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding you're so ready for your close-up. or finding you don't have to hide your skin just your background. once-daily sotyktu was proven better, getting more people clearer skin than the leading pill. don't take if you're allergic to sotyktu; serious reactions can occur. sotyktu can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections, cancers including lymphoma, muscle problems, and changes in certain labs have occurred. tell your doctor if you have an infection, liver or kidney problems, high triglycerides, or had a vaccine or plan to. sotyktu is a tyk2 inhibitor. tyk2 is part of the jak family. it's not known if sotyktu has the same risks as jak inhibitors. find what plaque psoriasis has been hiding. there's only one sotyktu, so ask for it by name. so clearly you. sotyktu. new centrum menopause supplements help unpause life when symptoms pause it. with a multivitamin plus hot flash support. 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