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they were poor, and they were facing violence. the idea that that is somehow better because they were all living in the same house. >> well, joy, listen, we need to continue the conversation, quite obviously, my friend. there's a lot to unpack and that interview. thank you so much for joining me tonight. that is our show. over to lawrence o'donnell, with the last word. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, alex. glenn kershner is going to join us tonight because glenn kershner had the pleasure of being in the courtroom today when steve bannon got his report to prison date. so we will have the pleasure of hearing from glenn kershner how that went today. >> front-row seat to bannon's departure from the big house. i am eager to hear the caller. >> i am, too. thanks, alex. thank you. he wasn't the most important person there. the president of the united states is usually the most important person in the room or the most important person in the stadium, or the most important person wherever the president is. not today joe biden and new that the 200 d-day veterans who surrounded him today on the coast of france were the most important people there. they were the most important people there 80 years ago, and they were the most important people there today. >> men who fought here became heroes, not because they were the strongest or toughest or the fiercest, although they were. but because they were given an audacious mission, knowing, every one of them knew, the probability of dying was real. but they did it anyway. they knew, beyond any doubt, there are things that are worth fighting and dying for. >> the world had never seen anything like the d-day invasion on the northern coast of france, along the english channel on june 6th 1944. in the world has never seen anything like it since. >> winston churchill called what happened here, quote, the greatest, most complicated operation ever. >> winston churchill wanted to be there. prime minister churchill, who was a combat veteran in his younger days, told the commander of the d-day invasion and future president of the united states, general dwight d eisenhower that he wanted the board and navy ship to get a closer view of the allied troops hitting the beach in normandy. general eisenhower told church hill that they could not take that risk. churchill told him, exasperated general eisenhower, that he would board a british navy ship and there is nothing the american general could do to stop him. and that was true. eisenhower couldn't stop church hill from ordering a british navy ship. but the king of england could. when king george heard that churchill was going to join the d-day invasion forces on a british navy ship, the king said he wanted to be on that ship, too. and then, prime minister churchill, the most stubborn and the most courageous british prime minister in history backed down, realizing that he couldn't risk the king's life on that warship that day. and so winston churchill and the king of england and the president of the united states had to stay at their posts and wait. wait for the most important news they would ever hear in their lives. before general eisenhower gave the order to go, he was warned by his top expert, on the airborne landing of paratroopers, that it was going to be a disaster that almost all of the paratroopers who would be the very first americans to set foot in france that day would be shot dead by german fire as they were floating to earth, hanging from their parachutes. they would almost fall, land on french soil, dead. that was the prediction. paratroopers were going to land behind enemy lines so that if the soldiers who hit the beach could make it up the hill, past the first line of german defense, they would have the support of those brave paratroopers already on the ground in france, having landed in the middle of the night. general eisenhower was given a vision of all of those paratroopers, lying dead in french fields. and he knew that the invasion plan couldn't work without the paratroopers landing first. he also knew that the slightest change in the weather could completely defeat the invasion. and general eisenhower knew that it was possible. but virtually all of the allied troops, who made it to the beach, would be immediately cut down by german fire and never make it across those beaches. every single aspect of the most complex logistical undertaking in human history could have gone wrong, and could have gone wrong all at the same time. and instead of the history that was commemorated there today, that can seem so inevitable in retrospect, we could have had a disastrous defeat and full retreat, back across the english channel, to england. and the allies, after such a full defeat and retreat, could not possibly have attempted another invasion for at least a year. it had taken two years to plan the d-day invasion. it had taken more than a year to build many of the innovative kinds of equipment that got those soldiers to shore that day. a new type of massive floating dock had to be invented, and then built, and then dragged across the english channel, something that had never been used before. and no one was sure would work. there were countless ways for the d-day invasion to fail and white eisenhower knew every single one of them, and he still said go. and when he said go. he handwrote the statement that he would issue in defeat. the statement he never had issue. in his own handwriting, general eisenhower wrote, our landings in the area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and i have withdrawn the troops. my decision to attack, at this time and place, was based on the best information available. the troops, the air, and the navy, and all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. if any blame or fault attaches to the attempt, it is mine alone. of course, general eisenhower was ready to take the blame alone, because that's what honor demanded. eight years later, general eisenhower was elected president of the united states. after general eisenhower's faithful service to democratic residency became the first republican president in 20 years. and in a tragic collapse of honor, in white eisenhower's political party, it is now impossible to imagine the last republican president taking the blame alone for anything. in fact, donald trump's last white house chief of staff, john kelly, who was a marine corps general, says that donald trump, quote, grant that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in america's defense are losers and wouldn't visit their graves in france. ernest hemingway was with the troops on d-day as they approached the beach. in a magazine article titled voyage to victory, hemingway wrote, the wind was blowing hard out of the northwest. as we moved in toward the gray early light, the 36 foot coffin shaped steel votes took solid green sheets of water that fell on the helmeted heads of the troops, packed shoulder to shoulder in the stiff, awkward, uncomfortable. only companionship of men going to a battle. as far as you could see, there were landing craft moving in over the gracie. hemingway watched the battleship texas shelling the shore. she was just off and firing over us as we moved into the french coast. those of our troops who were not wax gray with seasickness. fighting it off, trying to hold onto themselves before they had to grab for the steel side of the boat, were watching the texas, with looks of surprise and happiness. under the steel helmets, they looked like pikemen of the middle ages, to whose aid in battle had similarly, some strange and unbelievable monster. other ships were firing over us all day, and you were never away from the sudden slapping of naval gunfire. the big guns of the texas and arkansas that sounded as though they were throwing whole railway trains across the sky, were far away, as we moved on in. they were no part of our world, as we moved steadily over the gray, whitecapped sea tour where, ahead of us, death was being issued in small, intimate, accurately administered packages. they were like the thunder of a storm that is passing in another county, whose rain will never reach you. but they were knocking out the shore batteries so that later, the destroyers could move in, almost to the shore. on the beach, on the lift, where there was no sheltering overhang of shingled bank, the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth waves lay where they had fallen, looking like so many heavily laden bundles on the flat pebbly beach. >> the few, the notable band of brothers, are here with us today. kenneth plane smith is here, on that day, under heavy artillery fire, he operated a rangefinder radar for the first american ship to arrive at normandy's coast. providing direct gunfire support for the rangers, scaling the cliffs on their daring mission to take out the german batteries. bob gibson is here, he landed on a utah beach about 10 hours after the invasion began. bullets flying everywhere, bob drove an m4 attractor, that aircraft coming out on top, providing critical protection for the infantry. against the german air force. on that day, and for many days after, we continued. that miller is here, a medic with the 82nd air force. at 3:00 a.m. on june 6th, he and 13 other addicts were working a glider. its wings were ripped off by giant polls that the germans buried halfway in the ground to stop them from landing. they crashed, but they survived. and they did their duty, dragging injured soldiers to safety, treating wounds, saving lives of a battle raged. every soldier stormed the beach, landed by glider. every sailor, by the thousands of ships and landing craft. every aviator who destroyed controlled airfield, bridges, and railroads, all were backed by other brave americans, including hundreds of thousands of people of color and women who courageously served, despite unjust limitation on what they could do for our nation. lewis brown is here, part of the red ball express, a truck convoy made of most african- american drivers. he landed in normandy in the wake of the d-day, they rushed supplies to the rapidly advancing front lines. woody woodhouse is here. members of the legendary test cookie airman, who flew over 15,000 searches during the war. marjorie stone is here. she enlisted in the women's branch of the reserve, became an aircraft mechanic, spent the war keeping american planes and pilots in the air. theirs has always been the story of america. to walk the rows of the cemetery, as i have, knowing 10,000 heroes buried side-by- side, officers had enlisted, immigrants and nativeborn, different races, different faiths, but all americans. all serve with honor when america and the world needed them most. >> after the work, peace in europe was built and maintained with the united nations and with the nato, whose mission is still maintaining peace in europe. >> the united states and nato, the coalition of more than 50 countries, standing strong with ukraine, we will not walk away. [ applause ] because if we do, ukraine will be subjugated, and it will not end there. ukraine's neighbors will be threatened, all of europe will be threatened. and make no mistake, the autocrats of the world are watching closely to see what happens in ukraine. to see if we let this illegal aggression go unchecked. we cannot let that happen. to surrender to bullies, to bow down to dictators, it is simply unthinkable. [ applause ] were we to do that, we would be forgetting what happened here on these hallowed beaches. make no mistake, we will not bow down. we will not forget. >> ukraine's president, vladimir zelenskyy was there today to honor those who fought for freedom 80 years ago. >> the savior of the people. [ applause ] >> i pray for you. >> thank you so much. leading off our discussion on this day of reliving history is timothy saada, professor of history at yale university. he is the author of two books on the second world war, bloodlines, europe between hitler and stalin and black earth, the holocaust as history and warning. thank you very much for joining us tonight. we heard president biden say we will never forget. there are republicans, donald trump among them, who have not forgotten what they never knew, it seems that there is no evidence at all that donald trump even knows what victory in europe meant and what the pledge was made after that, to hold the peace in europe. >> the president is certainly right, that democracy is something that demands generational memory and generational courage. and the part of the point of commemorating heroes has to be to remember them as examples. my favorite line in the president's speech was the one about how we have no right to commemorate others unless we take lessons from them for the future. that seems very essential. as far as mr. trump, we have to acknowledge that there was, at the time, in the 1930s, a current, which is called america first, the idea of which was that we really should be admiring and imitating foreign dictators. that is the right form of politics, was the reasoning. and that current still exists in america. and mr. trump embodies it. he doesn't understand, i don't think, normally, why you would take risks because he doesn't understand, personally, what a value would be for which he would take risks and that personal difference is also a difference between systems. you can be authoritarian or fascist is all you care about is yourself, in order to be a democrat or somebody who cares about the rule of law or a constitutionalist you have to be able to take that step of realizing another person is real, another person might deserve to take some kind of risk at some point. >> professor, when you, i have been thinking about world war ii a lot since the ukraine war has, since russia invaded ukraine and the parallels. and it is not easy to make those parallels and these discussions every day. but this is one of those days. when the parallels are so vivid with president zelenskyy right there in normandy. >> thank you for that. number one, we should remember, even as we commemorate this extraordinarily difficult and significant, the decisive naval operation, seaborne operation, that the second world war was chiefly about ukraine it was chiefly about the germans trying to seize ukraine from the soviet union. and we should remember that the scale of death in ukraine during the second world war was horrifyingly great. about four times as many ukrainian soldiers were killed as american soldiers. another way to think that is worth remembering is that the second world war was about destroying states, destroying nations, categorizing people as being racially inferior. that, sadly, has also been putin's rationale for the invasion of ukraine. and the scale of the war, a third point, today is also terrifyingly close to the scale of that conflict. to put it in perspective, as a percentage of population, ukrainians and the war they are fighting now, how lost as many or perhaps more people as we lost in the entire second world war. so in all these ways, the comparison is appropriate. >> we also have the more powerful militarily powerful neighbor invading the cross- border invasion, precisely what started world war ii. >> yeah, and looking at it from the other side, we have to remember that d-day, although we know it worked, in those first hours, days, and weeks, the news seemed plenty week and we should think about that there are going to be moments, days, hours, weeks, months, that doesn't mean that you can't win in the end. that is the other thing. the meaning of the day has to do with the fact that we know that these soldiers are going to go on to win the war. if we had lost the meaning of that landing would be very different. and that is an important point for ukraine, too. the meaning of what is happening in ukraine now has to do with who wins and who loses in that category of victory, i think, is very important, we should apply it. >> i'm so glad you mentioned the way we watch ukraine compared to the way we watch world war ii. today's media, and today's politicians, watching world war ii, would have been complaining two months in, where american soldiers were not yet, it took more than a year for american soldiers to even get to europe after germany declared war on the united states. >> and we, in 1943 we tried to land in italy, and with very mixed results. that was very slow going, too. it was a long learning curve for the american army. and we should remember that but another thing, a related point that we should remember and apply to ukraine, is that even as we were making our way, in 1943, in 1944, to europe, we were backing our allies with a very significant percentage of our economic power. that is a lesson we need to remember because that is the way that we need to support ukraine. we haven't mobilized our economic industrial manufacturing power this time around, the way that we did then. >> yeah, the reason britain existed, still, in an independent form, where we could go in and help is franklin roosevelt's ingenious ways of supplying arms and other material that the british needed to stay alive in their battle against hitler, long before americans were engaged in the war in any way. >> that is exactly right. one side of it is human courage , of church hill, or perhaps zelenskyy. the other side is economic power, finding ways to convert economic power into military power. finding those clever ways to convert your manufacturing into war production, seeing that it is a long-term process and starting right away. what happened in operation overlord, operation neptune, the landing on d-day has to do with an enormous amount of application of economic power. an enormous amount of planning and administrative skill, as well as courage, as well as decisiveness. >> and there wasn't anyone who thought when the war was declared that we needed to move quicker than was possible. there was no sense of impatience on the people who are actually running the american response to the war? >> and there was also a lot more patience with allies. i think it is fair to say. and operable, we should remember as many british soldiers landed on those pieces. an awful lot of canadian soldiers landed, as well. there were cobbles with allies but there was a great deal more patience with allies in a great deal more realism with allies. i think we were a bit fairer with people who were actually in combat before we entered combat, that time around, then this time around. and you are right, there is a certain kind of impatience or a desire for things to hit the right point in the news cycle, as opposed to understanding that wars can't be won just on clichis and emotions, rushes of impulse. they can only be won by that combination of planning, patient, and human courage. >> yale professor, tammany steiner, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> it has been an honor, thank you. coming up, steve bannon is going to prison on july 1st. kershner was in the courtroom today when the judge ordered bannon to prison. kershner joins us next. s next. visionworks. see the difference. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis held me back... now with skyrizi, i'm all in with clearer skin. ♪ things are getting clearer...♪ ( ♪♪ ) ♪ i feel free... ♪ ♪ to bear my skin, yeah that's all me. ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ ( ♪♪) with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. and most people were clearer even at 5 years. skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions... ...and an increased risk of infections... ...or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you 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questions of david shaw, the defense attorney. and it really wasn't until near the end of the hearing as he was going through this findings that he said, look, the reason i originally stated steve bannon's sentence was because i thought he might have a viable legal issue on appeal. however, when the three-judge panel of the d.c. federal circuit court of appeals unanimously and, in a full throated way, basically rejected that legal issue, judge nichols , at that point, said i have no basis to continue to stay the execution of his sentence. i am ordering him to report to the federal euro of prisons by july 1st to begin his four month sentence. and you know, it is interesting, lawrence, because that seemed to make steve bannon unhappy but it really made steve bannon's lawyer unhappy. because of that moment, he made a beeline for the podium. i can tell you, in federal court, ordinarily you wait for the judge to invite you to the podium. he raised his voice, he got angry, he began yelling. and the judge had to basically shut him down and say that is no way to behave in the courtroom. so he may have been performing for steve bannon or perhaps another audience. but it is pretty clear that judge nichols finally decided enough was enough there is no reason for steve bannon to remain at liberty and he will be now joining peter navarro, perhaps in the same facility. perhaps not because peter navarro is serving his sentence for the identical contempt of congress priors. >> and these four months might be the shortest sentence that steve bannon gets. he is facing money laundering charges in new york city, a case brought by alvin bragg that is being heard, by the way, by judge juan merchan who was, of course, busy with the trump case. now he is not so busy perfected speed up the banning case in new york city. and there, that is the case where donald trump actually pardoned steve bannon for the federal version of that case. he had already been accused and indicted federally. but donald trump issued a pardon to a limited the federal case, alvin bragg picked it up as a state case. >> yeah, and it is nice to see once donald trump did that enormous favor for steve bannon and pardoned him for charges that, at their core, involved steve bannon stealing from trump's supporters, claiming he was going to be using the money to build a wall, all the while, just lining his own pockets and, you know, virtually foot out the door, donald trump partington. fortunately, the new york state parties then began their own investigation. and it has taken some time. but you know, ironically, a four month prison term might end up being the least of steve shannon's problems. >> the president today was asked in normandy about his son for being on trial, hunter biden. let's listen to that. >> how important do you think this conviction should be in this race for president? >> one thing for certain is, stop undermining the rule of law. the jury spoke, like they speak in all cases, and it should be respected. >> as we sit here in normandy, the -- your son hunter is on trial. i know you can't speak about it. ongoing federal prosecution. but let me ask you, will you accept the jury's outcome? there outcome no matter what it is? >> yes. >> have you ruled out a part for your son? >> yes. >> a pretty big contrast between joe biden's respectful judicial process and donald trump. >> you know, talk about showing the true character of a man. i was always impressed, lawrence, that when he became president, he had every right and, indeed, the normal course of business to ask for their resignation of all u.s. attorneys and owned u.s. attorneys that shared your criminal justice priorities. he left a republican appointed u.s. attorney in place to continue, uninterrupted. the investigation of his own son. and by all accounts, he has done nothing to interfere, and he is on record as saying, i would not pardon my son if he were criminally convicted i will tell you, that feels to me like 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he played the fifth more than 75 times. he took $300 million with him, used that money to buy the governor's seat, and he continues to use this money to live to floridians. but we know, we know the truth. as high as you have probably seen it, they know who he is, and they don't want to vote for rick scott. he is the most unpopular republican in this state of florida. he is extremely vulnerable and he is a danger, not just to florida families and two women but also to american families across the board. that is why this race is not just to critical to keeping us in the majority, lawrence. it is also critical to stop him from enforcing such an extreme agenda that he wants to go once he gets to the senate. >> debbie mucarsel-powell, thank you very much for joining us in the studio in new york. we are usually talking to you about florida, thank you very much. >> thank you, lawrence. coming up, josh stein, the democratic candidate in north carolina is now using his republican opponents very strange words against him. josh stein joins us next. e, i'. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber d with a prebiotic. 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>> we hope that they don't. north carolina is a very politically competitive state. we are a 50-50 state, which means every candidate has a legitimate shot and our job in this campaign is about making sure voters understand the stakes of the election and the clarity of the choice, the choice between competing visions. mine is forward-looking and inclusive. it is about fighting for people and tapping the potential of every person to build a safer and stronger state and you have heard the man. the vision and hate. he says awful, hateful things about people and north carolina has got to do better and we can do better. in the selection if we work hard we will do better. >> we heard just now in your campaign ad what he says about women and abortion, but he also said i absolutely want to go back to the america where women couldn't vote. do the women of north carolina know that? do they know he said that? >> i don't think people really know the awful beliefs mark robinson has. he got elected in 2020 in the lieutenant governor race. there frankly was not a lot of media attention. there weren't tv commercials, so voters went in thinking he was a generic republican running against a generic democrat. that person was typically going to win as a republican. now we want to make sure voters know who he is, what he is about, how he wants to turn back the clock in north carolina and break that clock. i think if voters know that, if we build a winning campaign and we need all of the grassroot support we can. if we do our jobs, which is to educate voters, i have faith in the people of north carolina to make the right choice. >> it looks like 17% need more information. it shows you at 37%. it shows republican opponent at 37%, but it shows what is now in today's politics a large undecided of 17% and i suspect those 17% do not know that mark robinson said i absolutely want to go back to the america where women could not vote. >> that is why we went on tv this week, lawrence. we want voters to have information about exactly who he is. also a commercial about my record as attorney general, fighting for the people and eliminating the largest backlog of untested rape kits in the country and doing this on a bipartisan basis. people want people who will sign -- solve problems. in a bipartisan fashion when possible. they do not want these bomb throwers when it comes to electing governor of their state. >> this is the kind of candidate to might have real fundraising strength with donald trump's support. >> he does. he is raising money at a clip that no republican candidate for governor ever has in north carolina. it is troubling, but he is raising money across the country. he travels to these right wing media shows and gets a lot of attention, a lot of contributions, but i believe in our grassroots team, too. we have tens of thousands of contributors and we need to keep building so we can win in november. >> north carolina attorney general josh stein, candidate for governor, thank you very much for joining us tonight. we will be right back. i love that my daughter still needs me. but sometimes i can't help due to burning and stabbing pain in my hands, so i use nervive. nervive's clinical dose of ala reduces nerve discomfort in as little as seven days. now i can help again feel the difference with nervive. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it's time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. ed gutters.healthcare provider call leaffilter today. and never clean out clogged gutters again. leaffilter's technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good. guaranteed. call 833.leaf.filter today, or visit leaffilter.com. that is tonight's last word. 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they were poor, and they were facing violence. the idea that that is somehow better because they were all living in the same house. >> well, joy, listen, we need to continue the conversation, quite obviously, my friend. there's a lot to unpack and that interview. thank you so much for joining me tonight. that is our show. over to lawrence o'donnell, with the last word. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, alex. glenn kershner is going to join us tonight because glenn kershner had the pleasure of being in the courtroom today when steve bannon got his report to prison date. so we will have the pleasure of hearing from glenn kershner how that went today. >> front-row seat to bannon's departure from the big house. i am eager to hear the caller. >> i am, too. thanks, alex. thank you. he wasn't the most important person there. the president of the united states is usually the most important person in the room or the most important person in the stadium, or the most important person wherever the president is. not today joe biden and new that the 200 d-day veterans who surrounded him today on the coast of france were the most important people there. they were the most important people there 80 years ago, and they were the most important people there today. >> men who fought here became heroes, not because they were the strongest or toughest or the fiercest, although they were. but because they were given an audacious mission, knowing, every one of them knew, the probability of dying was real. but they did it anyway. they knew, beyond any doubt, there are things that are worth fighting and dying for. >> the world had never seen anything like the d-day invasion on the northern coast of france, along the english channel on june 6th 1944. in the world has never seen anything like it since. >> winston churchill called what happened here, quote, the greatest, most complicated operation ever. >> winston churchill wanted to be there. prime minister churchill, who was a combat veteran in his younger days, told the commander of the d-day invasion and future president of the united states, general dwight d eisenhower that he wanted the board and navy ship to get a closer view of the allied troops hitting the beach in normandy. general eisenhower told church hill that they could not take that risk. churchill told him, exasperated general eisenhower, that he would board a british navy ship and there is nothing the american general could do to stop him. and that was true. eisenhower couldn't stop church hill from ordering a british navy ship. but the king of england could. when king george heard that churchill was going to join the d-day invasion forces on a british navy ship, the king said he wanted to be on that ship, too. and then, prime minister churchill, the most stubborn and the most courageous british prime minister in history backed down, realizing that he couldn't risk the king's life on that warship that day. and so winston churchill and the king of england and the president of the united states had to stay at their posts and wait. wait for the most important news they would ever hear in their lives. before general eisenhower gave the order to go, he was warned by his top expert, on the airborne landing of paratroopers, that it was going to be a disaster that almost all of the paratroopers who would be the very first americans to set foot in france that day would be shot dead by german fire as they were floating to earth, hanging from their parachutes. they would almost fall, land on french soil, dead. that was the prediction. paratroopers were going to land behind enemy lines so that if the soldiers who hit the beach could make it up the hill, past the first line of german defense, they would have the support of those brave paratroopers already on the ground in france, having landed in the middle of the night. general eisenhower was given a vision of all of those paratroopers, lying dead in french fields. and he knew that the invasion plan couldn't work without the paratroopers landing first. he also knew that the slightest change in the weather could completely defeat the invasion. and general eisenhower knew that it was possible. but virtually all of the allied troops, who made it to the beach, would be immediately cut down by german fire and never make it across those beaches. every single aspect of the most complex logistical undertaking in human history could have gone wrong, and could have gone wrong all at the same time. and instead of the history that was commemorated there today, that can seem so inevitable in retrospect, we could have had a disastrous defeat and full retreat, back across the english channel, to england. and the allies, after such a full defeat and retreat, could not possibly have attempted another invasion for at least a year. it had taken two years to plan the d-day invasion. it had taken more than a year to build many of the innovative kinds of equipment that got those soldiers to shore that day. a new type of massive floating dock had to be invented, and then built, and then dragged across the english channel, something that had never been used before. and no one was sure would work. there were countless ways for the d-day invasion to fail and white eisenhower knew every single one of them, and he still said go. and when he said go. he handwrote the statement that he would issue in defeat. the statement he never had issue. in his own handwriting, general eisenhower wrote, our landings in the area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and i have withdrawn the troops. my decision to attack, at this time and place, was based on the best information available. the troops, the air, and the navy, and all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. if any blame or fault attaches to the attempt, it is mine alone. of course, general eisenhower was ready to take the blame alone, because that's what honor demanded. eight years later, general eisenhower was elected president of the united states. after general eisenhower's faithful service to democratic residency became the first republican president in 20 years. and in a tragic collapse of honor, in white eisenhower's political party, it is now impossible to imagine the last republican president taking the blame alone for anything. in fact, donald trump's last white house chief of staff, john kelly, who was a marine corps general, says that donald trump, quote, grant that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in america's defense are losers and wouldn't visit their graves in france. ernest hemingway was with the troops on d-day as they approached the beach. in a magazine article titled voyage to victory, hemingway wrote, the wind was blowing hard out of the northwest. as we moved in toward the gray early light, the 36 foot coffin shaped steel votes took solid green sheets of water that fell on the helmeted heads of the troops, packed shoulder to shoulder in the stiff, awkward, uncomfortable. only companionship of men going to a battle. as far as you could see, there were landing craft moving in over the gracie. hemingway watched the battleship texas shelling the shore. she was just off and firing over us as we moved into the french coast. those of our troops who were not wax gray with seasickness. fighting it off, trying to hold onto themselves before they had to grab for the steel side of the boat, were watching the texas, with looks of surprise and happiness. under the steel helmets, they looked like pikemen of the middle ages, to whose aid in battle had similarly, some strange and unbelievable monster. other ships were firing over us all day, and you were never away from the sudden slapping of naval gunfire. the big guns of the texas and arkansas that sounded as though they were throwing whole railway trains across the sky, were far away, as we moved on in. they were no part of our world, as we moved steadily over the gray, whitecapped sea tour where, ahead of us, death was being issued in small, intimate, accurately administered packages. they were like the thunder of a storm that is passing in another county, whose rain will never reach you. but they were knocking out the shore batteries so that later, the destroyers could move in, almost to the shore. on the beach, on the lift, where there was no sheltering overhang of shingled bank, the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth waves lay where they had fallen, looking like so many heavily laden bundles on the flat pebbly beach. >> the few, the notable band of brothers, are here with us today. kenneth plane smith is here, on that day, under heavy artillery fire, he operated a rangefinder radar for the first american ship to arrive at normandy's coast. providing direct gunfire support for the rangers, scaling the cliffs on their daring mission to take out the german batteries. bob gibson is here, he landed on a utah beach about 10 hours after the invasion began. bullets flying everywhere, bob drove an m4 attractor, that aircraft coming out on top, providing critical protection for the infantry. against the german air force. on that day, and for many days after, we continued. that miller is here, a medic with the 82nd air force. at 3:00 a.m. on june 6th, he and 13 other addicts were working a glider. its wings were ripped off by giant polls that the germans buried halfway in the ground to stop them from landing. they crashed, but they survived. and they did their duty, dragging injured soldiers to safety, treating wounds, saving lives of a battle raged. every soldier stormed the beach, landed by glider. every sailor, by the thousands of ships and landing craft. every aviator who destroyed controlled airfield, bridges, and railroads, all were backed by other brave americans, including hundreds of thousands of people of color and women who courageously served, despite unjust limitation on what they could do for our nation. lewis brown is here, part of the red ball express, a truck convoy made of most african- american drivers. he landed in normandy in the wake of the d-day, they rushed supplies to the rapidly advancing front lines. woody woodhouse is here. members of the legendary test cookie airman, who flew over 15,000 searches during the war. marjorie stone is here. she enlisted in the women's branch of the reserve, became an aircraft mechanic, spent the war keeping american planes and pilots in the air. theirs has always been the story of america. to walk the rows of the cemetery, as i have, knowing 10,000 heroes buried side-by- side, officers had enlisted, immigrants and nativeborn, different races, different faiths, but all americans. all serve with honor when america and the world needed them most. >> after the work, peace in europe was built and maintained with the united nations and with the nato, whose mission is still maintaining peace in europe. >> the united states and nato, the coalition of more than 50 countries, standing strong with ukraine, we will not walk away. [ applause ] because if we do, ukraine will be subjugated, and it will not end there. ukraine's neighbors will be threatened, all of europe will be threatened. and make no mistake, the autocrats of the world are watching closely to see what happens in ukraine. to see if we let this illegal aggression go unchecked. we cannot let that happen. to surrender to bullies, to bow down to dictators, it is simply unthinkable. [ applause ] were we to do that, we would be forgetting what happened here on these hallowed beaches. make no mistake, we will not bow down. we will not forget. >> ukraine's president, vladimir zelenskyy was there today to honor those who fought for freedom 80 years ago. >> the savior of the people. [ applause ] >> i pray for you. >> thank you so much. leading off our discussion on this day of reliving history is timothy saada, professor of history at yale university. he is the author of two books on the second world war, bloodlines, europe between hitler and stalin and black earth, the holocaust as history and warning. thank you very much for joining us tonight. we heard president biden say we will never forget. there are republicans, donald trump among them, who have not forgotten what they never knew, it seems that there is no evidence at all that donald trump even knows what victory in europe meant and what the pledge was made after that, to hold the peace in europe. >> the president is certainly right, that democracy is something that demands generational memory and generational courage. and the part of the point of commemorating heroes has to be to remember them as examples. my favorite line in the president's speech was the one about how we have no right to commemorate others unless we take lessons from them for the future. that seems very essential. as far as mr. trump, we have to acknowledge that there was, at the time, in the 1930s, a current, which is called america first, the idea of which was that we really should be admiring and imitating foreign dictators. that is the right form of politics, was the reasoning. and that current still exists in america. and mr. trump embodies it. he doesn't understand, i don't think, normally, why you would take risks because he doesn't understand, personally, what a value would be for which he would take risks and that personal difference is also a difference between systems. you can be authoritarian or fascist is all you care about is yourself, in order to be a democrat or somebody who cares about the rule of law or a constitutionalist you have to be able to take that step of realizing another person is real, another person might deserve to take some kind of risk at some point. >> professor, when you, i have been thinking about world war ii a lot since the ukraine war has, since russia invaded ukraine and the parallels. and it is not easy to make those parallels and these discussions every day. but this is one of those days. when the parallels are so vivid with president zelenskyy right there in normandy. >> thank you for that. number one, we should remember, even as we commemorate this extraordinarily difficult and significant, the decisive naval operation, seaborne operation, that the second world war was chiefly about ukraine it was chiefly about the germans trying to seize ukraine from the soviet union. and we should remember that the scale of death in ukraine during the second world war was horrifyingly great. about four times as many ukrainian soldiers were killed as american soldiers. another way to think that is worth remembering is that the second world war was about destroying states, destroying nations, categorizing people as being racially inferior. that, sadly, has also been putin's rationale for the invasion of ukraine. and the scale of the war, a third point, today is also terrifyingly close to the scale of that conflict. to put it in perspective, as a percentage of population, ukrainians and the war they are fighting now, how lost as many or perhaps more people as we lost in the entire second world war. so in all these ways, the comparison is appropriate. >> we also have the more powerful militarily powerful neighbor invading the cross- border invasion, precisely what started world war ii. >> yeah, and looking at it from the other side, we have to remember that d-day, although we know it worked, in those first hours, days, and weeks, the news seemed plenty week and we should think about that there are going to be moments, days, hours, weeks, months, that doesn't mean that you can't win in the end. that is the other thing. the meaning of the day has to do with the fact that we know that these soldiers are going to go on to win the war. if we had lost the meaning of that landing would be very different. and that is an important point for ukraine, too. the meaning of what is happening in ukraine now has to do with who wins and who loses in that category of victory, i think, is very important, we should apply it. >> i'm so glad you mentioned the way we watch ukraine compared to the way we watch world war ii. today's media, and today's politicians, watching world war ii, would have been complaining two months in, where american soldiers were not yet, it took more than a year for american soldiers to even get to europe after germany declared war on the united states. >> and we, in 1943 we tried to land in italy, and with very mixed results. that was very slow going, too. it was a long learning curve for the american army. and we should remember that but another thing, a related point that we should remember and apply to ukraine, is that even as we were making our way, in 1943, in 1944, to europe, we were backing our allies with a very significant percentage of our economic power. that is a lesson we need to remember because that is the way that we need to support ukraine. we haven't mobilized our economic industrial manufacturing power this time around, the way that we did then. >> yeah, the reason britain existed, still, in an independent form, where we could go in and help is franklin roosevelt's ingenious ways of supplying arms and other material that the british needed to stay alive in their battle against hitler, long before americans were engaged in the war in any way. >> that is exactly right. one side of it is human courage , of church hill, or perhaps zelenskyy. the other side is economic power, finding ways to convert economic power into military power. finding those clever ways to convert your manufacturing into war production, seeing that it is a long-term process and starting right away. what happened in operation overlord, operation neptune, the landing on d-day has to do with an enormous amount of application of economic power. an enormous amount of planning and administrative skill, as well as courage, as well as decisiveness. >> and there wasn't anyone who thought when the war was declared that we needed to move quicker than was possible. there was no sense of impatience on the people who are actually running the american response to the war? >> and there was also a lot more patience with allies. i think it is fair to say. and operable, we should remember as many british soldiers landed on those pieces. an awful lot of canadian soldiers landed, as well. there were cobbles with allies but there was a great deal more patience with allies in a great deal more realism with allies. i think we were a bit fairer with people who were actually in combat before we entered combat, that time around, then this time around. and you are right, there is a certain kind of impatience or a desire for things to hit the right point in the news cycle, as opposed to understanding that wars can't be 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questions of david shaw, the defense attorney. and it really wasn't until near the end of the hearing as he was going through this findings that he said, look, the reason i originally stated steve bannon's sentence was because i thought he might have a viable legal issue on appeal. however, when the three-judge panel of the d.c. federal circuit court of appeals unanimously and, in a full throated way, basically rejected that legal issue, judge nichols , at that point, said i have no basis to continue to stay the execution of his sentence. i am ordering him to report to the federal euro of prisons by july 1st to begin his four month sentence. and you know, it is interesting, lawrence, because that seemed to make steve bannon unhappy but it really made steve bannon's lawyer unhappy. because of that moment, he made a beeline for the podium. i can tell you, in federal court, ordinarily you wait for the judge to invite you to the podium. he raised his voice, he got angry, he began yelling. and the judge had to basically shut him down and say that is no way to behave in the courtroom. so he may have been performing for steve bannon or perhaps another audience. but it is pretty clear that judge nichols finally decided enough was enough there is no reason for steve bannon to remain at liberty and he will be now joining peter navarro, perhaps in the same facility. perhaps not because peter navarro is serving his sentence for the identical contempt of congress priors. >> and these four months might be the shortest sentence that steve bannon gets. he is facing money laundering charges in new york city, a case brought by alvin bragg that is being heard, by the way, by judge juan merchan who was, of course, busy with the trump case. now he is not so busy perfected speed up the banning case in new york city. and there, that is the case where donald trump actually pardoned steve bannon for the federal version of that case. he had already been accused and indicted federally. but donald trump issued a pardon to a limited the federal case, alvin bragg picked it up as a state case. >> yeah, and it is nice to see once donald trump did that enormous favor for steve bannon and pardoned him for charges that, at their core, involved steve bannon stealing from trump's supporters, claiming he was going to be using the money to build a wall, all the while, just lining his own pockets and, you know, virtually foot out the door, donald trump partington. fortunately, the new york state parties then began their own investigation. and it has taken some time. but you know, ironically, a four month prison term might end up being the least of steve shannon's problems. >> the president today was asked in normandy about his son for being on trial, hunter biden. let's listen to that. >> how important do you think this conviction should be in this race for president? >> one thing for certain is, stop undermining the rule of law. the jury spoke, like they speak in all cases, and it should be respected. >> as we sit here in normandy, the -- your son hunter is on trial. i know you can't speak about it. ongoing federal prosecution. but let me ask you, will you accept the jury's outcome? there outcome no matter what it is? >> yes. >> have you ruled out a part for your son? >> yes. >> a pretty big contrast between joe biden's respectful judicial process and donald trump. >> you know, talk about showing the true character of a man. i was always impressed, lawrence, that when he became president, he had every right and, indeed, the normal course of business to ask for their resignation of all u.s. attorneys and owned u.s. attorneys that shared your criminal justice priorities. he left a republican appointed u.s. attorney in place to continue, uninterrupted. the investigation of his own son. and by all accounts, he has done nothing to interfere, and he is on record as saying, i would not pardon my son if he were criminally convicted i will tell you, that feels to me like 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he played the fifth more than 75 times. he took $300 million with him, used that money to buy the governor's seat, and he continues to use this money to live to floridians. but we know, we know the truth. as high as you have probably seen it, they know who he is, and they don't want to vote for rick scott. he is the most unpopular republican in this state of florida. he is extremely vulnerable and he is a danger, not just to florida families and two women but also to american families across the board. that is why this race is not just to critical to keeping us in the majority, lawrence. it is also critical to stop him from enforcing such an extreme agenda that he wants to go once he gets to the senate. >> debbie mucarsel-powell, thank you very much for joining us in the studio in new york. we are usually talking to you about florida, thank you very much. >> thank you, lawrence. coming up, josh stein, the democratic candidate in north carolina is now using his republican opponents very strange words against him. josh stein joins us next. e, i'. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber d with a prebiotic. 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>> we hope that they don't. north carolina is a very politically competitive state. we are a 50-50 state, which means every candidate has a legitimate shot and our job in this campaign is about making sure voters understand the stakes of the election and the clarity of the choice, the choice between competing visions. mine is forward-looking and inclusive. it is about fighting for people and tapping the potential of every person to build a safer and stronger state and you have heard the man. the vision and hate. he says awful, hateful things about people and north carolina has got to do better and we can do better. in the selection if we work hard we will do better. >> we heard just now in your campaign ad what he says about women and abortion, but he also said i absolutely want to go back to the america where women couldn't vote. do the women of north carolina know that? do they know he said that? >> i don't think people really know the awful beliefs mark robinson has. he got elected in 2020 in the lieutenant governor race. there frankly was not a lot of media attention. there weren't tv commercials, so voters went in thinking he was a generic republican running against a generic democrat. that person was typically going to win as a republican. now we want to make sure voters know who he is, what he is about, how he wants to turn back the clock in north carolina and break that clock. i think if voters know that, if we build a winning campaign and we need all of the grassroot support we can. if we do our jobs, which is to educate voters, i have faith in the people of north carolina to make the right choice. >> it looks like 17% need more information. it shows you at 37%. it shows republican opponent at 37%, but it shows what is now in today's politics a large undecided of 17% and i suspect those 17% do not know that mark robinson said i absolutely want to go back to the america where women could not vote. >> that is why we went on tv this week, lawrence. we want voters to have information about exactly who he is. also a commercial about my record as attorney general, fighting for the people and eliminating the largest backlog of untested rape kits in the country and doing this on a bipartisan basis. people want people who will sign -- solve problems. in a bipartisan fashion when possible. they do not want these bomb throwers when it comes to electing governor of their state. >> this is the kind of candidate to might have real fundraising strength with donald trump's support. >> he does. he is raising money at a clip that no republican candidate for governor ever has in north carolina. it is troubling, but he is raising money across the country. he travels to these right wing media shows and gets a lot of attention, a lot of contributions, but i believe in our grassroots team, too. we have tens of thousands of contributors and we need to keep building so we can win in november. >> north carolina attorney general josh stein, candidate for governor, thank you very much for joining us tonight. we will be right back. i love that my daughter still needs me. but sometimes i can't help due to burning and stabbing pain in my hands, so i use nervive. nervive's clinical dose of ala reduces nerve discomfort in as little as seven days. now i can help again feel the difference with nervive. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it's time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. ed gutters.healthcare provider call leaffilter today. and never clean out clogged gutters again. leaffilter's technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good. guaranteed. call 833.leaf.filter today, or visit leaffilter.com. that is tonight's last word. 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