of violent clashes with protesters breaking barricades and fire crackers going off. where do things go from here? plus, columbia university asking police to stay on campus for weeks after a chaotic night where officers went into a building where protesters were barricaded. the school now going remote for the rest of the semester. and donald trump taking advantage of a day off from court. the former president plans miz his first campaign rally since his criminal trial began. we're live in battleground, wisconsin. and a new decision from the federal reserve on interest rates. what it means for your bottom line and the never ending battle against inflation. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin with nbc's steve patterson who is at ucla where police are standing by. steve, what's the latest there? >> chris, the latest is happening behind me right now. it's the most action we have seen all day. i'm going to step off and show it to you. take a look. you can see some of the protesters are reestablishing the gates that were torn down. they have been zip tying them over the last few minutes, putting back boards that were covering this encampment. creating a barrier between the rest of the campus, and what has been this established encampment for probably about a week or so now. this was absolute chaos. you may see some of the materials on the ground. they were essentially used as weapons last night. boards. sticks, pipes, we're hearing that fire crackers were thrown into that academy. we're hearing that metal pipes may be used, irritants like pepper spray may be deployed in the crowd. this all happened at 11:00 last night, as a flood of counter protesters came into the zone and wreaked havoc as protesters fought back. and the students that i spoke to say that happened for hours before there was a police response. here are some of the students and firsthand accounts of what happened. listen to this. >> it really got violent. i'll say that for a fact. i never seen this tension at all, but, yeah, no, it did really get ugly. the police just waited there. they didn't do nothing. when the guys found out the police weren't going to do nothing, they came back and started doing more stuff, start all over again. >> it's kind of just escalated. there's been pepper spray thrown multiple times. bats, cones, things are flying. i'm shocked. i'm saddened. >> reporter: i mentioned a delayed response. this comes from a student i spoke to that you just saw on screen. this comes from protesters who were just kind of shouting it at us today, when police arrived, it was hours after the fight had already started and had been established for hours. and then when police were actually on scene, it took some time for them to intervene. that has been what we've heard kind of off and on all day long. we're also now hearing from the office of the governor who has just spoken out on this, just releasing a statement saying, quote, the limited and delayed campus law enforcement response at ucla last night was unacceptable and it demands answers. as soon as it became clear that state assistance was needed to support a local response, our office immediately deployed chp personnel to campus. here now is the governor commenting on this after several students have. it is the biggest point of convention that we have heard so far on the ground after this response. meanwhile, it's been serene since then. it is peaceful. there's a large police presence here. i see sheriffs deputies. lapd, they have been here all day long. meanwhile, campus is shut down for most of the day, all classes canceled due to this explosion of violence that we saw last night. chris. >> steve patterson, thank you. let's go to columbia university now, where the school just made a major announcement that will affect nearly every student at the school. let me go to nbc's rehema ellis who is on scene there. what's the latest? >> chris, i can tell you, it's anger and disappointment. some are very angry that the university called nypd on to this campus to disburse protesters. in fact, several faculty members came out and talked about how ashamed they were of what happened on this campus last night. and so they were angry. but there were also some other students here who have said they are disappointed it didn't happen sooner. they are looking for a more peaceful protest that they think didn't happen. listen to two students we talked to of two different sides of their reaction to what happened on this campus. take a listen. >> i am ashamed of the way that the administration has handled this protest. it's important to stand up for students and important to stand up and say that we should not have cops on our campus, it's a threat to everybody's safety. >> i think the administration has done a pretty good job to try to mitigate this issue, to hopefully progress towards a nice commencement ceremony. >> reporter: we should tell you that it is peaceful on the campus. while the tents have come down and there are no protesters inside on the campus grounds. we should also tell you, 119 people were arrested, from the time at 9:00 they went on to the campus in full force, they had the situation contained in two hours. the mayor of new york said there were no major injuries or violence. however, we talked to a student who was arrested for trespassing who says she suffered two broken fingers and was knocked to the ground, and she felt she was sorely mistreated by the police. she thought it was unnecessary. two sides of how people are looking at this. at the moment, there is peace on the campus grounds. police are also going to stay here, chris, they say, through may 15th, which is graduation day because they have been invited to stay. and they will stay here even two days after that until may 17th for any other kind of commencement activities that may go on. so anger and disappointment here on this campus, but at the same time, there's also peace on the campus grounds. chris? >> rehema ellis, thank you. let's go to wisconsin now where donald trump is set to take the stage for his first rally since the start of his new york criminal trial. nbc's shaquille brewster is live in wisconsin for us. shaq, what are you hearing from voters there? >> reporter: hi there, chris. for folks inside the room, there's a lot of excitement, especially the fact thank you very much donald trump not in trial, not in a courtroom, and instead, back on the campaign trail. based on prepared remarks we just got from the former president, we can expect to hear him talk about the economy, talk about inflation and the impact it's having on people. you can expect to hear him dismiss the job numbers, low unemployment, and essentially say that's fake, this is an economy hurting people. based on his social media, don't be surprised if you hear about the trial as he is on that stage behind me. i'll tell you it's a topic that has come up with supporters outside of this venue, of people in this battleground state, in this crucial county in this battle ground state. i want you to listen to some of the conversations i have been having with people, starting with the whom who says she has been shifted away from donald trump because of the courtroom battles. you think you sided with donald trump? >> yes, i believe so. >> reporter: why are you changing it? why do you think you might change it this time around? . >> because of his trial going on. i guess i don't want somebody who has been through a trial for criminal offenses to be my president of the united states. >> i am unmoved, the trial seems to be more of a kangaroo court, and i don't take it seriously, and i think very few people do. >> it's not too glaring to me that it would stop me from voting for him or anything like that. >> reporter: meanwhile, the biden campaign is using trump's visit to essentially counter program and highlight a message of abortion. we saw that in terms of a press conference earlier today. we see that in billboards that they have launched in this state tied to donald trump's visit. it's a preview of those battle lines that we can expect to see in these battleground states for months to come with one candidate having to go back and forth between the legal battles and the campaign trail. another candidate trying to focus on issues that folks in this state have said matter to them a lot. back to you. >> shaquille brewster, thank you. and we have breaking news now, the fed has just released its latest interest rate decision. i want to bring in nbc's brian cheung. i tried to do a quick read on cnbc. i'm not sure i understand 100% exactly what happened with this statement, so fill us in. >> i mean, the broad takeway is that the federal reserve did not do anything with interest rates. they held them steady, currently between 5 1/4 and 5 1/2%. you can see on the chart ahead of you. the big story is the federal reserve has been trying to raise interest rates, to get inflation down. your credit card rates, mortgage rates, have been elevated since the beginning of 2023. what the federal reserve is trying to see is have they actually succeeded in getting inflation down. the yearly rate of inflation measured by the consumer price index has gone up from 3.1% to 3.5% as of the last reading. for the federal reserve, we're going to hold the interest rates, high, we're not going to cut. market pricing suggests that the first interest rate cut might not come until september, chris. >> brian cheung, thank you so much. in 60 seconds, what the nypd is saying about outside agitators who affected the protests at columbia university. we've got that coming up next. g. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it's time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. the future is not just going to happen. you have to make it. and if you want a successful business, all it takes is an idea, and now becomes the future where you grew a dream into a reality. the all new godaddy airo. put your business online in minutes with the power of ai. officers with riot shields moved in to clear the crowds of protesters at the university of wisconsin madison just this morning after broadcasting a recorded final warning for them to disburse. 34 people were arrested. 4 officers were injured. at the university of arizona, an encampment of pro palestinian protesters was removed after some heated moments that included officers in gas masks using chemical irritants. confrontations also unfolded at the university of north carolina chapel hill where officials say protesters broke through barriers, replaced an american flag in the center of campus with the palestinian one, and threw water bottles at officers. dozens of students were detained throughout the day. nbc's sam brock is on campus at unc chapel hill. also with us, eugene robinson, and nbc's tom winter who has been following the protests at columbia. sam, get us up to speed, what's the situation looking like where you are? >> reporter: what a contrast from 24 hours ago. unc's campus and the quad i'm standing is a portrait in peacefulnessment looking around -- peacefulness, looking around at students in caps. it's much more than what you described in terms of throwing water bottles, but physical confrontations between pro palestinian demonstrators and law enforcement here that involved tussles, students being physically thrown to the ground. one video appears to show an officer tugging one woman by her hair. a whole assembly of things going on here. as far as today, what's happening today, police have tightened up some of their presence. we have seen a lot more in the last couple of hours. again, there's no signs of a protest imminent. unc students for justice in palestine say they are in standing in solidarity with those in gaza who are suffering and calling for divestment of any vehicle that supports israel. the university has said, that's fine, you have freedom of speech. you have freedom of assembly. what we're saying is you can't encamp yourselves in the middle of the quad and stay there for days. there was a five-day long encampment. the first wave started yesterday morning when police came in at 6:00 a.m. and broke that up. as you mentioned, you're looking at the video of barriers being pulled back and forth, it was over this, the flag, the american flag that came down not just once but twice, by the way, then reinstated, pulled back up. it's at half mass today, and that is notable because of the four law enforcement officers slain earlier this week in what was a tragic event, one of the deadliest we have seen in the law enforcement community in years. that's still a presence very much in this part of north carolina. as these protests are going on. i want to get to the numbers from yesterday. university police disclosed this, they detained 36 people in total, 30 were cited on the spot for trespassing and released. ten unc students, 20 who were not, and those transported to a local magistrates office, three were unc students, three were not. they were charged with trespassing. that's a snapshot. there were hundreds of people out here yesterday. hard to say exactly what that dynamic was. it's clear at least among that group, 2/3 of it was not even students. back to you. >> thank you so much for that. tom, let me move over to what happened last night, a much larger situation, far more arrests at columbia. there's a theme emerging at a number of places is officials are saying, police are saying that many of the people are not students. they're calling them outside agitators, other phrases for them. what do we really know? >> i spoke to deputy commissioner rebecca winer from the nypd, and the concern she had and one of the reasons why they held that press conference last night and put out a video, they were concerned about the change at hamilton hall. and specifically, the presence of several individuals that they say, the nypd says have been on their radar for a number of years who show up at these things and don't have any particular ideology. it's pro israel today, pro palestine tomorrow. something else next week. it's not about the ideology. it's not about the message. it's not about taking a stand. it's about trying to engage with law enforcement in a potentially violent way. in order to get the viral moment that it will cascade across the internet. they highlighted one woman who has made it a career according to her web site basically telling people how to engage in these, perhaps, more confrontational protests, and that's something the nypd could be looking at here as far as one of those outsiders who could help kind of foster the environment they were starting to see that really concerned them in hamilton hall yesterday. there has been some criticism about something that the deputy commissioner of the nypd showed on "morning joe" this morning, which is this lock and this chain that was found on campus. some people say, well, that's a bike lock that you can buy at columbia. what do you mean that's coming from an outsider. the fact that it was used and heavy chain set that was used, according to the nypd, those type of techniques, taking out cameras, setting up barricades, turning over the furniture and zip tying it together, and creating a class of confrontation, that's the type of techniques they say they saw that concerned them, and that's what they're point to go from outsiders, not where a specific lock or chain came from, but just the overall message of this was something that went beyond people protesting for a cause in their eyes. >> is it their suggestion that if not for these outsiders, what we saw would not have happened? >> i think so. i think if you look at the progression of efferents here, the nypd said if columbia wants us to come in, they have to invite us in. unless there's a risk to a life or a complaint of a crime, we can't go there anywhere because of the history with the new york city police department that goes back decades, that's not an area columbia has felt they want to include the nypd. i don't think from a law enforcement perspective there was public safety concern about kids being camped out on a lawn. the change is when they saw tactics used at hamilton hall, and that concerned the new york city police department, and that's what they said. they have said it publicly. >> you talked to a lot of people about this, you talked to folks at the encampment at gw, george washington university's campus a few days ago. for you, how key is the delineation between students and outside agitators? i'm wondering your overall impression of this? >> well, chris, frankly, i'm really skeptical whenever i hear that phrase outside agitators. i remember that same phrase was used in the south in my hometown in south carolina to delegitimize civil rights protests. to say it's not good people who live around here, it's the outside agitators who are stirring up all of this trouble, when, in fact, that was not the case. now, i can't say that the new york police are mistaken or lying about this, but i think we should allow the students their agency in this, at least they did want to do what they did, and they're committing acts of civil disobedience which they know or should know bring consequences, and that's, you know, that tradition is older than this country. it starts with the boston tea party. so, you know, we haven't seen student activism like this for a while. and i guess it's kind of unfamiliar, but we have seen it before, and we've seen it a lot bigger than we're seeing it now. >> i'm sure you've had a lot of conversations with folks, and even among people who would defend and do defend the right of students to have their protests, there's this other side conversation going on that it can be fodder for republicans, fodder for donald trump. >> yeah. >> they're using this to say this is part of the lawlessness that has been allowed to happen under joe biden. do you think there are political ramifications for this? >> oh, i think quite possibly and you could look at history and say quite likely. i mean, it kind of depends on the scale and ultimate scope of these protests, of this activism, how long it goes on, how it evolves, but remember 1968, and the crescendo of the vietnam protests. of course a lot happened in 1968, but there were protests and then the days of rage at the chicago convention. all of that was really bad for the democratic party. and arguably played a big role in electing richard nixon. so i think that's why republicans are jumping in so, you know, eagerly into the fray, at least rhetorically. but, you know, it's no guarantee that that would happen again. and certainly no guarantee that the extent of the protests and, well, back then, the violence which we haven't seen yet, there's no guarantee that it's going to get to a scale that it has a huge impact on the election. >> eugene robinson, tom winter, thank you both very much. and coming up, harvey weinstein is due back in court after his new york rape conviction was overturned. why he isn't getting out of prison just yet. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc (ella) fashion moves fast. setting trends is our business. we need to scale with customer demand... in real time. 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mohawk contradictional facility over the weekend to bell view where he was undergoing a series of tests. his legal team is asking the judge to release him back to bell view where they're hoping he will stay and get medical treatment up until this new trial commences. prosecution saying that jessica mann one of his accusers, she is in the courtroom, and she is not backing down. they want to see him be retried as early as the fall. this is a significant moment, chris. this is the first time harvey weinstein has entered this courthouse since he was sentenced to 23 years in prison in 2020. now, he obviously faces separate charges and 16 years in prison in california. it will be interesting to see if perhaps he is extradited in the meantime. again, his legal team is saying that he has this plethora of health issues, that he should be not remanded into custody but taken back to bell view for further care. alvin bragg in that courtroom, and they are putting on a show of force, chris, to say that we want this case to be retried, and that they want the same witnesses to come forward and we're looking to see if that judge is going to set a new trial date today. >> thank you, chloe. so kristen, there have been comparisons between this case and the bill cosby case because his conviction was also overturned. as a prosecutor, what do you look at when deciding about whether and how to retry a case? >> well, the main thing you're going to look at, chris, is whether or not the complaining witnesses, in this case, ms. mann, want to cooperate and are willing to undergo the rigorous cross-examination they went through on the first trial. are they willing to go through all of the trauma and retriggering of testifying again. and based on reports, it seems like at the very least, ms. mann is willing to go forward. that's the primary concern. in addition to this case, unlike with the bill cosby case where it was overturned based on the higher court's belief that there existed a nonprosecutorial agreement which precluded us from being able to re-try it, in this particular case, there were specific evidentiary rulings and guidance that the higher court gave to the trial court. so the trial court has to reconsider what if any prior witness testimony will be permitted in this trial. and the d.a.'s office is going to have to consider whether or not they want to continue moving forward with the case, knowing their restrictions on the ability to call certain prior witness testimony. >> again, he still has another conviction in los angeles that stands, but i have been reading some of the analysis of this, and an argument is being made, and i wonder what your thoughts are, that the overturned conviction in new york is indeed related to the los angeles case because the outcome of that trial tainted the jury in los angeles. is that an argument that could be made? >> it is absolutely a viable argument, but i have heard that argument being made over and over and over 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now, vice president kamala harris is delivering a speech directly blaming donald trump for florida's strict new abortion ban. across our nation, we witness a full-on assault state by state on reproductive freedom. and understand who is to blame. former president donald trump did this. donald trump hand picked three members of the united states supreme court because he intended for them to overturn roe. and as he intended, they did. now, many of you here may recall i served on the judiciary committee as a united states senator. and i questioned two of those nominees. to one of them i asked quote, i will quote myself, can you think of any laws that give the government the power to make decisions about the male body. and it will come as no shock to everyone here, he had no good answer. and that day, we all knew what was about to come. and it happened just as donald trump intended. now -- >> the six-week ban raises the pressure on the election this fall when a proposed amendment protecting abortion rights will still be on the state ballot. and it is the issue of abortion that gives the biden campaign hope that florida is, as joe biden has suggested, winnable for them in november. nbc's monica alba is at the white house. mark mckinnon is a former adviser to president george w. bush and john mccain, and creator of the political documentary series "the circus." what else do we know about vice president harris going right into that territory where today is a very very consequential day for abortion rights? >> absolutely, chris. that's why the biden campaign wanted her to be there to make this case in person and talk about the significant ramifications, and it's notable in her prepared remarks for this speech. she is set to name check former president, something like 18 times, which we are told is the highest amount that she has ever referred to donald trump in a speech like this throughout this election cycle. it really does speak to the reason that they want the vice president out front on this, which she has been really leading the charge from a messenger perspective when it comes to reproductive freedom and raising questions about getting more access to abortion rights. she has been talking about this really since the fall of roe in that post dobbs era, but it takes on a new significance now in the heat of this election cycle and because we saw just as recently as yesterday that donald trump did talk about this in that interview with "time" magazine, and the vice president is expected here shortly to talk about not just the immediate question like what we're seeing in florida with this six-week ban, but to talk about some of the other issues and really the tentacles that are connected to all of this, like when it comes to ivf, for instance, which we've seen play out and be challenged in other states and raising all of these questions connected to that. she's going to be talking about the totality of this, the biden campaign for weeks now that be hammering donald trump on his record on abortion, and i don't think we can expect that to shift anytime soon. if anything, they're going to turn up the volume on that, and they're going to continue to do it because they do believe abortion rights is one of the most motivating and mobilizing issues. even though, when you look at our nbc news poll, abortion is usually something like fifth in terms of the issues that people identify as being most important to them, the economy, inflation, usually topping that list. but because of special measures, because of midterm election results, because of every time we see abortion on the ballot in some form, how many people come out usually to vote for that. that's something democrats have seized on, and they think, chris, will be really critical in november. >> mark, i don't need to tell you that as complicated as presidential campaigns can be, one thing that's not complicated is if you want to know what they think what issue will move the needle, all you got to do is listen to the presidential candidate and the vice presidential candidate, take a look at where they're putting their money. i want to ask you specifically about florida. no democrat has won the state since 2012 when barack obama beat mitt romney. do you think abortion is a potent enough issue to swing florida to biden? >> well, chris, the one thing we know about this issue is that the republicans, the dog caught the car and now is wrapped around the axel to keep them going. republicans don't like this issue, and they don't know what to do it, especially donald trump, he has never cared much about abortion. he's all over the map on it, still all over the map. this is a great issue for the vice president to be sort of the tip of the sphere which she is right now in florida. democrats are on offense. republicans are on defense. effectively with the laws the way they are right now, abortion is pretty much banned in the southern united states. so it's a big issue. the question, to your question about whether or not it puts florida in play, well, it gets some traction, that's for sure, and it could make republicans spend some money down there. you know, i don't know that it's realistic to think that biden can win florida. it's a troublesome issue, especially the six-week ban in florida that desantis signed. it's a huge distraction for them, and it could make them spend, you know, valuable resources in a state they shouldn't have to. >> well, you mentioned donald trump, and he has been very clear or unclear, depending on your perspective, the clear part being he doesn't seem to have a clear position on this. he was asked by "time" magazine a couple of things, whether he's comfortable with states prosecuting women for starters. if they have abortions, to which he said, it's irrelevant whether i'm comfortable or not. it's totally irrelevant because the states are going to make those decisions, pretty much the same thing he said when asked about a national abortion ban. he said it's irrelevant. he keeps saying that the states, turning it over to the states after roe v. wade has made it better. has made it simpler, that everybody loves it. how do you win over the women he needs, the suburban women with messaging like that? >> yeah, well, ask the women in arizona if they're happy with a law being reinstated from 1864. that's a great example. arizona, which, you know, up until a couple of weeks ago, people were thinking it was -- it was reliably in donald trump's column, and we had this ruling, and now it's reliably in biden's column, and now kari lake is taken off the map as a hopeful candidate for republicans, all because of that issue. the thing about the issue is it has huge saliency for voters. there are other issues they care about. but on this issue, you know, on the other issues they could say, i don't know whether biden or trump would do better on the economy or inflation, but they know clearly where the parties stand on this issue. they know biden and harris care about this. they know trump doesn't, and we'll leave it to the republican party. and the maga forces, which will turn places like arizona into an 1864 republic. >> mark mckinnon and monica albert, thank you both. bracing for an influx of patients, yamiche alcindor is live at an abortion clinic in charlottesville. yamiche, virginia and north carolina will now be at least geographically the main destinations for women who need an abortion in the south. tell us what's happening where you are. >> reporter: as you said, really, this is a consequential day for abortion access in our country, and especially in the southeast with florida banning most abortions after six weeks. virginia in particular is going to be a big destination, because unlike north carolina, where women have to have multiple appointments here, you come to a clinic like this one, and you go in, get an abortion on the exact same day without having to wait. at this clinic in particular, they're beefing up hours. actually also trying to get more doctors to come to the clinic to provide that treatment, and they're also looking to expand the sort of gestational age that women can get abortions. in the last two weeks, they went from treating women to getting abortion at 16 to 18 weeks pregnant. we got rare access here to this abortion clinic, and we talked to them specifically about the patient they were treating. take listen to what they told me, specifically about a patient from florida, and how they're feeling about treating patients from out of state. take a listen. >> i had a patient who drove 11 hours, left at 7:00 p.m. last night from florida, got here at 7:00 a.m. this morning to have her procedure. when i talked to her in counseling, she had expressed she is a mom. she has three children. and her reason was i simply can't do this anymore. i could not imagine having to start over again. and she said, i know that's awful. and i said, no, it's not, you know your limits. i'm just sorry that you had to drive eleven hours just to seek basic health care. >> i leave here kind of disgusted a lot because i'm so sad for these women who are traveling so far from out of state to get this very simple procedure. >> reporter: now at this clinic in particular just this year, they say about 25% of the patients they are treating have been from out of states. they said before roe was overturned it was rare to see them out of state. now they're seeing them every single day. we have this rare access to be able to be inside this clinic. here's the recovery room. this is where women go and sit after they have abortions, and they're bracing for people from ouch state and wanting to get more space for them. it looked like a spa when you look at it. there are blankets, chairs, calming colors around the room. they're doing this because they say the women coming from out of state, driving hours and hours, they're exhausted, anxious, grateful to be here, and this clinic is really trying to put women at ease, so when you look at this room, that's what they're trying to do for these women. it's interesting to be here in this space, especially on a day like this, chris. >> yamiche alcindor, thank you. and abortion could be on the november ballot in south dakota. that is a ruby red state. abortion rights advocates said they have collected far more signatures than required to move ahead with the process that would allow voters to effectively reverse the state's near total abortion ban. their proposed amendment would make abortion legal under all circumstances under the first trimester of pregnancy. because of the state's makeup, even if that proposal does make its way on to the ballot, it will be an up hill battle to get it passed. breaking news out of arizona, voting on repealing that 1864 abortion ban. let's bring back nbc's dana griffin by phone. this is not going quickly. i don't think we expected it to. lots of speeches and interruptions. tell us what's going on. >> this is the thing that democrats were concerned about. they knew they had the votes. they have done the first three readings, and they have 16 yays, 14 noes in this particular vote. the thing we're seeing now, several senators are stalling, one in particular, senator shawna ballic talked for 20 minutes reading a story about one woman's pregnancy. it was kind of cringy. you had several people in the gallery turning their backs, several people shouts out to just vote. they have since been removed from the gallery. what we saw was the makings of what looked like a filibuster has ended. another senator is on the floor explaining his vote. this could be a long, drawn out process. they have the votes but senators right now are taking their time to explain their votes. there are several that did not vote during this third reading so we could be here for several hours. trying to figure out if this officially passes today. it's important to note that even if this repeal passes, it will not go into effect for 90 days after the legislative session ends. we know last year that legislative session ended around july 31st. that goes to show if they're successful with repealing this law, there's still going to be a period of time where the 1864 law is expected to take effect. right now, that date is slated for june 27th. right now, the attorney general has filed a motion to try to get a 90-day stay. everyone will be watching and waiting. there's also several efforts come november to codify reproductive rights by getting that on the november ballot. but right now, stall tactics here in the arizona state senate, and we'll be watching, chris. >> dana griffin, keep us posted, thank you. >> and still to come on "chris jansing reports," the massive federal changes that could be coming for cannabis, how they could completely reshape how marijuana is researched and sold in the u.s. plus, the deadly tornadoes sweeping kansas, the twister tossing debris and 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