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The testing and masks and all the things, we solved every problem and we solve the quickly. All in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. It was an eventful day in the manhattan election a different style of donald trump. The morning started with the former president being held in contempt of court. Fined, threatened by the judge with jail time for violating his gag order in the case. We will have more on that in a moment. It was the first event in a day that included testimony for four witnesses. First, the jury heard more from gary farro. A personal banker for former trump lawyer Michael Cohen. He testified cohen was in a rush and 2016 when he created a new Company CalledEssential Consultants Llc and asked farro to speed through 130,000 payment from that company to Keith Davidson. He said the money was for a retainer, but it was for davidson to collect on behalf of his client, Former Trump ParamoreStormy Daniels to buy her silence in the lead up to trumps election. A prosecutor is farro of the bank process couldve gone differently if cohen it told the truth of what he was up to . He was set to pay off adult film actress. He said, yes, we certainly ask additional questions. In other words, trumps lawyer the time fixing the skin, new it was not legal and had to be concealed. The court heard from two unusual witnesses. A Court Reporter from e. Jean carrolls successful Defamation Lawsuit from donald trump, and the head of archives for cspan. They were there to authenticate trumps own deposition from his Defamation Trial as well as videos of trump and his Many Campaign rally so that jury could see him in his own words. Here are some of those clips. Its a phony deal. I have no idea who these women are. Had no idea. I think you know i have no idea because you understand me for a lot of years. Okay . When you looked at that horrible woman last night, you said, i dont think so. I dont think so. Whoever she is, wherever she comes from, the stories are total fiction. They are 100 made up. They never happened. They never would have been. All horrible lies. All fabrications. We cant let them change the most important election in our lifetimes. That was donald trump looking more than eight years younger, in my opinion. Denying the stories of his Assault Accusers saying he hopes they do not change the election outcome. Clearly owned his mind, understandably, a few weeks before the election. This was october 2016 before the election. The same month he was allegedly approving a sixfigure payoff to keep Stormy Daniels quiet. Normally when it comes to attainable records like this, everybody can see it, the prosecution agree on their authenticity before the trial starts. The trump team would not do that in the trial and the judge barred testimony from the many women who came forward to accuse trump of assault. Prosecutors had to take this tedious step of calling expert witnesses to get the evidence in which is funny since it draws out the trail which is becoming quite quite taxing on the defendant was reportedly met at his lawyer todd blanche. He has griped it mr. Blanche, formal prosecutor, has been insufficiently aggressive. Mr. Trump wants him to attack witnesses. Attack with the former president sees as a hostile jury pool. And detect the judge. Trump who often complains about legal fees and sometimes refuses to pay them, has wondered aloud why his lawyers cost so much, according to the people times spoke to. It brings us to the last witness the jury heard from. Keith davidson. A pretty key player in this affair. A lawyer who never got money directly from donald trump it represented Stormy Daniels and Karen Mcdougal and negotiated is for both women to withhold their stories. Infidelity with trump ahead of the election. In court, davidson walked through walked the jury through the text and related the excuses that Michael Cohen gave when the payoff to Stormy Daniels failed to materialize. , quote, he stated Computer Systems are all so many fireballs. The Secret Service is in here. Davidson and his client did eventually after a fair amount of followup get that 130,000 directly, as you might recall, out of Michael Cohens pocket and cohen city was reimbursed for the expense by the then president of these united states. Joining your two people who were at the courthouse today. A lot to get to today. Lets start right ended on Keith Davidson. Who is an important witness. Tell us who davidson is and what he was going through . Hes the lawyer for Stormy Daniels and Karen Mcdougal. Prosecutors were taking them through the negotiation of the settlement payments to both women which as you know, operated differently the first one and the second one. David pecker testified he is told dylan howard, do not get involved in this. I do not want any affiliation with a pornography start. Also, i am not a bank. Nonetheless, dylan howard did get involved and he got involved by involving Keith Davidson who had a prior relationship with Stormy Daniels manager. Herself described as an infamous story broker. This is the seamy underbelly of the world that david pecker took us through. This is a this is the wrong below the inquiry. Its too sketchy for us, the national enquirer. You need to run this as an Off Book Operation because us, the national enquirer, find this to be too dubious. Im glad to use sketchy because sketchy comes in mind when i think of Keith Davidson. He was not an easy witness for the prosecution. Part of it is because he did not want to acknowledge his complicity in either of these deals. He was shadowy how he got involved representing Stormy Daniels in the first place. And the deal was resurrected after he told Michael Cohen in midoctober after cohen failed to fund the settlement. Im out and i do not represent Stormy Daniels or Gina Rodriguez anymore. Michael cohen gets called back into action, and the whole deal gets papered in a matter of 24 hours. We know that because of the banker. What was your impression that david pecker, he was interesting witness and soared to frank and not shadowy and not squarely. Area front about what he does and what worldly operates and so hes a fairly credible witness. What did you think of davidson . I thought davidson was straight on the most important is he brought us to the precipice of Stormy Daniels and the huge crisis it is. There was the bland text at every step, and then, when the access Hollywood Tape hits, you have him talking to dylan howard, and he is so he was effective in reinforcing the notion that at this point its a Nitroglycerin Crisis that has to be dealt with. When Planet Hollywood drops. Access hollywood. Sorry. I dont want to defame the wonderful restaurant chain. [ laughter ] the key sort of the key narrative point i took away, and i have not read the transcript yet. The idea that there was the mcdougal deal. It set off some alarms internally at ami. Then theres the stormy deal then the stormy deal sputters out of Michael Cohen is being squarely in the coming up and thats dead. What resurrects it is the crisis of the Access Hollywood. Yes and no. The crisis is what initiates the deal negotiations. At some point, falls apart. Midoctober after Access Hollywood already happens. Dylan howard and others decide it has to be dealt with because Stormy Daniels and Gina Rodriguez are now separated from Keith Davidson, going and shopping her story. Youve got a real problem. There are hiccups in the road but the urgency is always there. Thats the thing thats most important. What is the difference going to say about that . Its set up to try to salvage Michael Cohen. He is out there paying 130,000 knowing he cant even take someone to lunch without trump. What is the narrative that has him doing that, that isnt trying to put out this huge fire . I will say Keith Davidson was really impossible for the prosecution today. He would not say, at least in response to a question that judge merchan would allow, that he understood the trump was the ultimate pocketbook for the Stormy Daniels settlement. Prosecutors desperately wanted him to say that. There were experienced lawyers in the room. Harry looked at me, can you ask this question in a way the guy can answer . He needed to lay the foundation for the fact that Keith Davidson had an understanding and it wasnt just an assumption that trump was going to pay it. It wasnt just Cohen Freelancing and they didnt get that cleanly today. They might on thursday. There were text between the two that were displayed today. We may ask for sketches of this. These are text between the inquirer, ami dylan howard who is not david pecker, and davidson. What is the substance of those exchanges. The substance is mostly to show these guys were in touch very, very frequently. They were working the steal. And they both understand that both sides have an interest in coming to these agreements. First mcdougal and then Stormy Daniels, even though davidson testified, he wanted to rid himself of the whole thing. He found cohen detestable. Ultimately, just when he thinks hes out he gets pulled back into doing this deal. Both sides of the same seamy world. Lets talk about, quickly here, 90 seconds, to talk about the strangeness of e. Jean carroll deposition Court Reporter and the cspan archives. What was that about . It was about, what you said, they were being obstreperous and not stipulating. Everybody stipulates so they were going through this first Year Law School requirements for business records, exceptions, et cetera. I thought the jury would be very bored and even arced but they seemed to be paying attention to this. Take me through i read the monologue so i understand the point. Hammer home, you stipulate, you say years the campaign tape. Its in public records. We know its a real voice of donald trump. Its not just that but cspan did it in the regular course of business. Duty to do it. You dont stipulate when you have to establish a chain of custody of this document and authenticate it with the person who can speak to authority of its authenticity. You have to show it is what it looks like. And then, the banker who seems like basically, he is basically like Michael Cohen is really rushing and desperate. He doesnt know much about this deal but maybe sniffing around it. I think what he is saying is Michael Cohen was always in a rush. Real estate transactions are often rushed. Even though there was something fuzzy about it maybe in retrospect, and once we knew about Stormy Daniels, while we were going through it, it didnt strike us out of the ordinary. Its keeping with how Michael Cohen behaved and how a real estate clients behave in Michael Cohen represented to us on paper that he was establishing a Real Estate Consultancy and paying a retainer to a lawyer. Hold that thought because youre going to stay here. I want to talk about that, the gag order ruling, how trump is enjoying his time in the freezing courthouse. Thats all next. With absorbine pro, pain wont hold you back from your passions. 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They flag 10 instances, that they said ran afoul of the judgment ski order. Most of the posts attacked Michael Cohen, citing a New York Post article calling him a serial perjury. Others go after Stormy Daniels and former prosecutor. This morning, the judge agreed with the prosecution on nine of the 10 instances. Judge merchan finding him in contempt of court, ordering him to lily the post by to 15 which he did. He has been ordered to pay 1000 per violation for a total of 9000 by friday. If he does it again, the judge warned the court will not tolerate continued willful violations of its lawful orders and if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances, it will impose an incarcerated tory punishment. Still with me at the table, harry litman and lisa rubin. Harry, i cut you off before we went to break. Do you remember what it was . No. But, you buried the lede right now. What preceded this was judge merchan saying the money is not effective. He has now raised the hammer and said next time im coming down. Lisa, you meet up with the 1000 fine mac is statutorily by law. Judge, you were with us and you say people took a lot of notice of and i heard back from folks who talked about the point you made that you can say, look, there will be jail time and im not gonna tell you how much and where until after the trial so you try to get this disincentive affect. What do you think of the ruling by judge merchan today . The Judgment Ski Ruling was within his discretion. He found nine violations. Theres a bit of a dilemma he has created, and its that he has another Contempt Hearing coming up on thursday. Thats four more alleged violations. If the judge finds that all of those were, in fact, violations of his gag order, i think most we think, then he will send him to jail. He really cannot. What he said today was that going forward, these four preceded it, so now we will have 13 or 14 violations likely with more fines. At the judge had the two contempt violations, put them together and had one hearing, think we would have a different situation where the judge probably would be inclined to say, thats enough. You are going in. Thats an important point. Subsequent violations do not count for the hearing thursday. I want to enter into the record here, some of the posts by the defendant in this case. Its all very unusual. This really does not happen. The judge has taken away my constitutional right to free speech. Im the only president ial candidate to be gagged. This whole trial is rigged. Taking my freedom of speech. He is wreaking the president ial 2024 election, election interference. He said its a total witchhunt. Hours of sitting down and listening to nothing except lies. The trial is going like a Speeding Bullet because the judges working hard to make his friends happy. He is a disgrace to the country. This is today. This is today. One of the things he said, and we have made this done before that its too fast and too slow. He sitting there so much and its going so fast. Tw