Im Chris Jansing. A Protest Movement expanding and challenges are growing. Less than an hour from now, columbia students face an ultimatum over their israelhamas war protest. Leave or be suuspended. But also the major shockwaves in the race for president. And Donald Trumps time scrunch, can he log enough time in Battleground States when he is not in court . His plans this week in michigan and wisconsin. The help he is getting from a conservative group to swing hispanic voters. But also the worries he reportedly has about the impact of an outspoken ally. And u. S. Officials think that they have a dwindling window to push for a ceasefire. The talks happening right now as the world waits for hamas to respond to the latest hostage offer. But we begin with the growing protests across the u. S. That are setting off a politically charged blame game. Finger pointing at students, outside agitators, administrators. And then there is a political fallout that could be consequential for an already volatile 2024 president ial race. Hundreds of demonstrators have been arrested as protests intensify at College Campuses all across the country against israels invasion of gaza. Right now at columbia university, protestors have been told they need to leave their encampment in the next hour or face suspension. But as the New York Times points out, these demonstrations are exposing fresh tensions over how to balance free speech protections and support for gazans with concerns some Jewish Americans are raising about antisemitism. Couple that with donald trump and republicans who are now seizing on these protests trying to spin them as their latest example of chaos and unrest under President Biden and democrats. A lot to get to. And lets get out to los angeles and also Jonathan Lemire is with us, host of way too early. And jake sherman from punch bowl news. Great to have you all here. Jonathan, trump is now using this for his overall theme of blaming joe biden for this is his word lawlessness. Along with his attacks on border and crime policies. Hes already been doing that. Is the white house worried this could be a problem for joe biden . Yeah, it is part of trumps argument here and also connected to the wars in ukraine. Saying when i was president , these things werent happening. But youre right, lawlessness or chaos trump is trying to say at home or abroad and trying to blame President Biden for this. The biden team is a wear is this a problem and a growing one, that certainly these kreens of unrest at these protests and some of the vile antisemitism and vile language used turns off a lot of voters. It is an issue. The administration though, there is a limit to what they can do at this point. Certainly the president has completely says he supports the idea of peaceful protests. And there is no space for antiarabic or antimuslim sentiments. So they are dferring to the local locals. But at a certain point advisers do worry that the president may have to take it more headon. The question now is what that approach might be. We do know that this is already something that even before this outbreak of protests in recent weeks, the with a war in gaza and the president s support for israel has dragged down his approval numbers over across the board particularly among young and progressive voters that he needs in november. While aides say they think that have increase would older voters, but they say this is a water. And so where do the protests go from here . Im at ucla and this encampment behind me has grown dramatically in the days since ive been covering this. As least tripled or quadrupled in size. And also we have a big screen set up and blasting music and videos toward the encampment. Yesterday there were some scuffles. So ill see if we see more of that today. What is happening at ucla is an example of what happens when the university decides not to crack down on the encampments. They have more or less allowed it to flourish. And compare that to usc where they called Campus Police and lapd on A Burgeoning Encampment last week. But that did not work to squash the protests. There is now a new encampment at usc where also police were called and various disciplinary measures threatened and protestors there are not budging. That is what ive heard from the students ive spoken to, they say they intend to keep the encampments going until the universities meet their demands. Given that those demands include divesting completely from israel, not just divesting School Investments from israel but for example israeli academic institutions, the way things stand right now, that is not likely to happen anytime soon. So these encampments might be up more or less indefinitely. And in New York City at columbia, george solis is just off campus. The clock is ticking. They have 55 minutes until the deadline is up, right . Yeah, thats right. And what that exactly looks like and what that means remains to be seen. But one thing that immediately caught our attention here as we arrived on campus, the presence of the nypd. Moments ago we saw a good gaggle of officers arrive here outside of the gate. Unclear, and it does remain to be seen, if they will actually enter campus. Keep in mind this comes as the university has completely said they would not allow the nypd back on campus after the initial arrests and their presence there when those hundreds were arrested. So interesting to see. It has caught the attention of all of the local, national and International Media following this story. So i can see some. Command posts here, some of the officers here off in the distance. Again, sort of staging around the Perimeter Waiting to see what will happen at 2 00 p. M. Earlier this morning the University President detailing what is happening. They were silent over the weekend. The barricades had been removed. And now no sign that they will go back up. But the president did say with classes now concluding, it represents a noisy distraction for students studying and everyone trying to complete the academic year. And she says i want to reassure the community were trying to make plans that we will hold a commendment. That is a big lingering question there. As you enter the campus and look at what is happening around the encampment, there are things that Signal Commencement will happen. And she says for all the reasons above, we urge those in the encampments to voluntarily disperse. And they are trying to have more discussions saying that the negotiations with the Student Protestors and calls for divestment wont happen. So now the clock ticking. Were about an hour or so, well see what it actually looks like. What it means for the protestors for the encampment and how the nypd presence here may alter or impact any of it. So obviously a potentially volatile situation. And again, when donald trump talks about lawlessness and chaos, can republicans be far behind. What are you hearing on capitol hill . Last week i was with mike johnson the Speaker Of The House at columbia, so he has already taken this issue headon and taken this issue on the road in new york. Traveling up to new york for the Speaker Of The House who lives in louisiana and works in washington. So no small thing there. But listen, this week let me take a step back. Congress is always intense when it comes to middle east politics, period. Even when things are going well. But now were at a whole different level here. And on the floor this week, floor of the house of representatives, congress will be voting on changing tweaking the definition of antisemitism that the government should use. That is a republican bill. But there will be democrats who vote for it. And i will say just down the road from here, gw, George Washington university, maybe two, three miles from the capitol, there is an encampment of over 200 people. And the local police here in d. C. Has not dispersed and Washington Post reported that they refuse to break up that protest in foggy bottom. I cannot imagine that get out of this week without people, and you are seeing some of the images on the screen, without members of congress, political officials, talking about gw in the backyard of the white house just blocks from joe bidens home from the white house. A situation that according to university officials, according to local press, The Gw Student Paper has gotten increasingly volatile. So it is something that will be spilling from foggy bottom to capitol hill to the house floor. Would you expect then to hear more of these calls to bring in the National Guard . Yeah, i can tell you, there is a certain i dont know about hesitation, but definitely among mike johnson who said the National Guard to be brought to columbia. He says the people should be more forceful and that students should get back to work and stop wasting their parents money. And the way republicans look at this, these are private universities, at least columbia and gw are, and people should follow the rules and if not, they should be brought up for trespassing. So this is obviously a very complicated topic. But were seeing now more places than just columbia. It is across the country. And jonathan was right at the top of the show, republicans are using this to try to show that the country is on the brink and governments have run amok all over the place under joe biden. Again, much more complicated scenario than that, but that is the political calculus republicans are making. And jonathan, any conversation at all that the white house is even really considering calling in the National Guard . No, not to this point. But we should note the White House Press briefing with Karine Jeanpierre was delayed until 2 00. Im sure she will be asked completely about that issue and others connected to these protests which really do seem to have hit a fever pitch in recent days. Thank you all so much. And in 60 seconds from the trial to the trail, can former President Trump run a Successful Campaign in important Battleground States while spending a majority of the week in a courtroom . Week in a courtroom [street noise] [car door shuts] [paparazzi cameras] introducing, neds Plaque Psoriasis. Ned, ned, who are you wearing . He thinks his flaky red patches are all people see. Otezla is the 1 prescribed pill to treat Plaque Psoriasis. Ned . Otezla can help you get clearer skin, and reduce itching and flaking. With no routine blood tests required. 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And indictments of his allies there as well as in nevada, michigan and georgia threaten to keep Election Interference in the news long after trumps New York City trial is over. I want to bring in dasha burns and john kasich. This is, governor, weve talked about this, trumps political reality now. One, maybe two days on the Campaign Trail during the week, the rest in court. You wonder if he can run a Successful Campaign this way even if he just focuses on that handful of Battleground States and there is also the exhaustion factor. Youve been on the Campaign Trail so you know what that is like. What do you think . There are some people who think that it is better that he is in court and not out there saying things to get him in trouble. Interesting perspective. But it is still very close, Battleground States are very important. Obviously. Mitch and pennsylvania are absolutely critical. And, you know, so that is where the focus has to be. And that is why of course he will go to wisconsin, he will go to michigan. That is where he will put his energy. But to me, the fact that he is not on the field i think hurts him. But again, some experts think that he is in the courtroom. If you have a hung jury or Something Like that, he will say you see The Deep State was after me. So we just have to keep watching where this is going. And then the other issue gets to be, chris, frankly, it is the state of the economy. And can in fact biden people convince people that the economy is doing well. And that you dont want to change these make these Big Decisions and change people out when things are going well. And that is an issue. Ive been telling you all the time that it all gets down to the economy. How do people feel about their pocketbook, how do they feel about the future for themselves and for their children. It is always the economy stupid as we know from quoting James Carville 1 million times from when he actually said that. The one thing trump does get out of the courtroom, he fund raises off it early and often. But hes been behind joe biden in fundraising. So there was some secret meeting i guess you could say between donald trump and ron desantis. What was that about and can it help . Lets not forget it was a bitter, bitter rivalry between those two during the primary. I mean, some brutal arrows shot at each other. So this was really kind of an olive branch sort of meeting. There was a mutual connection, a man named Steve Witkoff that facilitated the meeting. Desantis was golfing in miami, trump met him there for breakfast. But lets be clear about one thing. There is a lot of consideration around veep stakes. That is not what this conversation was focused on. I dont think that desantis is in that realm of consideration. What does he bring to donald trump . Money. He is very good at fundraising. So that is where he can be helpful. I dont think that you will see the two of them on the Campaign Trail very much, but desantis can lend assistance on the money front. So trump is also getting help from a conservative group that is targeting latino voters focusing on what they claim is the damage done by to your point bidens economic policies. And nbc news polling shows bidens lead among those voters has eroded sharply from 33 to just 10 . Be that is just barely outside the margin of error. But the hispanic voters make up roughly 15 of the electorate. So if you are biden, how worried are you . You have to be worried. And hispanic voters are beginning to trend more and more republican. This is an issue of the economy. If you listen to what the hispanic leaders have said, they say there is not the opportunity that we had under donald trump, that well go out and do what we can to support donald trump and try to deliver him a greater percentage of the hispanic votes. And again, were back to the Biden Campaign having to get out there and tell people, wait a minute here, dont have some memory of the Trump Campaign where everything was so great. Mine, wake up to what it was like then and look at where it is now. It is also a matter of strength. You know, to some degree you can criticize donald trump, but he comes out there as no doubt with what he does or what he says. With biden, i think that some of those voters are looking at his age and they are wondering is he tough enough. So biden will have to show that he is tough enough and the fact that we made significant gains on the economy. And that will help him dramatically with the hispanic vote. What we do know from polls in addition to those polls we just showed is if donald trump were to be convicted, that would be a problem for him. We know some people say it would be disqualifying. But there is some reminder that were seeing over and over and over again with indictments. There are the multiple indictments linked to the fake elector schemes that were in a number of Battleground States. Have you heard anything on the republican side, in the trump camp, that says they are worried that this stuff stays in the news even long after donald trump may have moved on . A lot of people think this trial is the only one well see before november. It keeps it in the news and it is a problem for a lot of those local level grass roots republicans. Im talking County Chairs and critical swing counties and swing states are trying to