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MSNBCW Alex July 3, 2024

They keep us as much as they can. There are things they cannot provide us information about. As much as they can, they do. We do expect them to continue and push forward for a resolution, to negotiate a deal. It is clear to bring home 133 hostages from hamas dungeons, hamas terrorist organizations are holding them in terrible conditions, in tunnels, and they are exposing them to violence, abuse, and violence. We expect them it is part of the social contract because we have from state and citizens and it is part of what they need to do in order to ensure israel is getting the victory we need, which is not an empiric victory. If we do not have the hostages back home with their loved ones, with us, the families, i do not think we will be able to recover and be the same society we were before october 7th. We will be resilient to face all the consequences. It will be a painful deal. We are dealing with, in my opinion, a maniacal terrorist organization, but we have to make concessions, and then rebuild our homes in southern israel, rebuild our homes in northern israel. We need to prepare for, perhaps, initiating a Better Future for both of us and our neighbors. Thank you profoundly for a very thoughtful conversation. Our thoughts are with you. Your brotherinlaw we hope that he is returned to you safely and soon. Judging the prosecution of the president donald trial. Whether i got off to a strong start. Plus, the most interesting witness waiting in the wings. Msnbc World Headquarters in new york welcome to we are looking at this Pact Calendar for trumper he will have his Hush Money Trial On Tuesday and on wednesday, he will go to wisconsin and michigan four campaign event. On thursday, judge juan merchan will hear his second attempt Contempt Hearing on gag violations. And then they do more friday. While we do not yet know which witnesses will testify against him next, Michael Cohen, Stormy Daniels, Karen Mcdougal, hope hicks, theyre all among the highly anticipated witnesses who could be called to the stand. We have a lot of Analysts Covering all of these new developments. First, we will go to jakes trailer. What can we expect this weekend in the new york Hush Money Trial . Alex, tuesday kicks off week three of the criminal Hush Money Trial in manhattan and it likely will be really the first week where we will see this balancing acts from former president donald and it comes to the campaign and the courtroom. We have a lighter week on our hands. We will see the court in session on tuesday, thursday, and friday. On wednesday, trouble hit the Campaign Trail since the first time he has been a part of this Hush Money Trial. He will go to michigan and also to wisconsin. These are two key swing states did win narrowly in 2016. He then lost them to biden in 2020 and they will be pivotal swing states for both candidates on their path to electoral victory when it comes to november. With what is taking place in the courtroom, there will be a couple things. One, we will see likely the witness list grow, those that will take the stand. We do not know who they will be, but we will see that number grow. Also, we will look more at this Gag Order Hearing to see if the former president has violated the gag order of the course of this trial. I want to point to one interview that took place this morning with South Carolina senator lindsey graham. He, like Many Republican leaders, fell in line with, really, the rhetoric of when it comes to these cases. He was asked point blank if he is convicted of a criminal case, would you still support him . I want you to let our viewers hear that answer real quickly. Alvin bragg took a case that was rejected by the federal government to resurrect these misdemeanors. I think it is a political hit job on six months before the election. If he is convicted, you will still support him and vote for him . Absolutely. I think what is going on with president donald is weaponization of the law. Weaponization of the law, a political hit job. These are not new phrases or words. We have seen him use the rhetoric and language from the very beginning, but it is another example of key Republican Leaders falling in line with the former president. When we see guests on the Campaign Trail, im curious to see how he balances talking what he loves to talk about, and the criminal trials, and talking to voters about the issues they really care about. We will see if that happens. Thank you, jake. Join me, a State Attorney for Palm Beach County and perry stein, a reporter for the washington post. You spend some time in court last week. I welcome you both. Week two has wrapped up with the two sides laying out their case. The jury getting a listen lesson in the unseemly practice of catch and kill journalism, if you want to call it that. Was it a strong start for the prosecution . Very. It is good to be with you and perry. I thought david pecker was a very powerful witness, better than i thought he would be. First, he knows nothing. It is the maybe with some lowlevel employees who did the records. He was not part of any of it. Well, david showed you were. You were in the room when it happened either literally or figuratively. He was part of the discussions that and cohen and had to create a whole scheme with not just Stormy Daniels, but others in the catch and kill idea of helping president donald s campaign. Karen mcdougal. He wanted to say, even if this is a misdemeanor or falsification of Business Records, the next crime does not exist. It is not an election crime because this is about protecting melania, not to influence an election. David pecker said melania was not even mentioned. This was all about helpingselection. Finally, wanted to make this case about Michael Cohen, who has some problems because he was convicted of felonies, including lying, but he was lying for president donald. But here, you have david providing cooperation for what Michael Cohen is going to testify to. It is one thing to say you are a liar. It is another thing to say you are a liar, but everyone seems to cooperate your story. I got that hogans hero analogy with the sergeant. One of the central themes of David Testimony was the arrangement he made with president donald to have the Parent Company of the national Mcdougal Pay Playboy model Karen Mcdougal 150,000 for her story, alleging she had a 10 month long affair with president donald , which began the year after he married melania. David pecker said that could be a campaignfinance violation, but that payment is not part of the criminal allegations against. Why was it important . That was one of the more interesting parts, that you have david pecker saying he knew working in coordination with the campaign to influence an election with payments like that that is illegal. He said he knew that. That was not part of the indictment, and part because never paid david pecker back. You hear david pecker say, he testified he did not pay me back for it. I think it is important in part because it is setting the stage, it is setting the State Of Mind that these men knew that, allegedly knew that all these payments, these payments to cover this up on the eve of the election was a violation of election laws. We also knew that david pecker had federal immunity, but he also testified this week that he did reach a deal with state prosecutors. He could testify to this without being afraid of legal record passions repercussions. He was asked about the Stormy Daniels payment. Michael cohen asked me to pay for the story, to purchase it. He said, im not purchasing the story. I will not be involved with a adult film star. I said i am not a bank. After paying out the doorman and Karen Mcdougal, we are not paying any more money the prosecution asked, how did Michael Cohen take that . David pecker said he was upset, that the boss will be furious at me and i should go forward in purchasing it. How could this exchange be beneficial to the prosecutions case . Why would the national mcdougal be paying money out of his own pocket to the doorman, to Karen Mcdougal, just to kill stories . They are a forprofit newspaper that makes a living based on calling on celebrities with salacious stuff. It would help them if they published these stories. It makes no sense that they are paying out of their own pocket to bury the story. Why would they do it . They did it to help their guy out,. It was to help them get elected president , thinking there could be benefits down the line for them. This whole context matters. This shows this was not about protecting president donald s family. It was about helping president donald get elected. The trial resumes tuesday with Michael Cohens banker, gary farro, the third witness. What does his testimony provide and what you expect to hear from him this week . We just started friday afternoon. What you expect to hear from him is to show Michael Cohen was being extra discreet as he played around with these payments and these bank accounts. He is going to show these people knew what they were doing, included, and that they are trying to be secretive, to conceal these payments because that is the heart of this case, to get to these felony charges, that they were falsifying falsified Business Records to conceal other crimes allegedly. I think theyre going to use him to try to help establish this concealing. That is a good point. As the trial goes forward, they will have to look at the documents, the way the payments were paid out and what was criminal about president donald s role in it, dave. How can the Prosecution Dig into that, to make it accessible to the jury . When you put on this powerful evidence at the beginning, David Testimony, and you end with something that is memorable, but in between, you do the nuts and bolts, the boring stuff. You put a guide to show that Michael Cohen took a home loan out to pay this amount. Why would a lawyer take out a loan to bailout his boss unless he was working with the boss to try to kill the story, to help his campaign. We are not that mad now minutes magnanimous. This comes to what i was saying earlier, corroboration. He might be a flawed witness, but if the other evidence shows he is truthful, you have to believe in. Judge merchan has scheduled the second hearing on president donald s alleged gag order violations after the prosecution added another four incidents to 15. What is president donald rescuing by continuing to challenge the gag order . Look, he said, as you mentioned, he is going on campaigns. He is going on the Campaign Trail on wednesday. The capacity for him to continue to break this keeps growing every time he is out there. Look, he could get find 1000 every violation. That is chump change, not a big deal, however you could risk, really, getting this judge more mad at you. This is the judge that has to oversee this trial. Obviously, the prosecution wants the judge to remind him that if he continues to do this, he could go to jail. Now, i am not making any predictions, but i do not think it safe to say we are nowhere close to that, but in theory that is a risk that could happen. Okay, looking ahead, i want to ask you which witnesses you are most interested in hearing from. Dave, you first, and why. Unlike david, who has an Community Dale and has every incentive to work with the prosecutors, and unlike Michael Cohen, who hates donald and he has an asked to grind an ax to grind, hope hicks was an insider, steaming president donald s clothes. She is a loyalist and here she is, taking the stand to cooperate Michael Cohen . That would be mustsee tv if only they had cameras in the courtroom. You put that vision in my mind. I do not want to picture that. Last words, perry. Who are you most interested in seeing and why . Michael cohen, just because he is at the center of this, but we also know what will be interesting is this is you will see fireworks from president donald s team as they crossexamine Michael Cohen and try to really take away his credibility in the eyes of the jury. From both sides on that one, it will be an interesting one and important one to watch a great chat. I would love to see you here again soon. Thank you. Their lives changed in an instant. The damage left behind for more than 100 tornadoes that touched down this weekend. We are back in 60 seconds. Seco. More Breaking News. College student standing call is that solidarity vowing to give up their protest on campus is across the country. This as jewish leaders and some lawmakers demand President Joe Biden to more to address what they say is a rise in anti semitic incidents on campuses. Saturday, more than 200 protesters were arrested at four colleges. Students called on their schools to cut financial ties to israel and divest in companies they say are enabling the war in gaza. We are at ucla with adrian, where administrators have opted to take a rather handsoff approach to the protest. Adrian, welcome. What are the demonstrations like . Quite a different scene from what we have seen over the past few days. That once peaceful tone has shifted. In their last 30 to 40 minutes or so, a group of pro palestinian demonstrators marched in what was scheduled to be a counterrally and the two sides have sort of clashed. You can feel the tension, but there has only been a bit of shopping. Earlier, ucla organizers set up barricades to separate the two. We are standing on this area which was scheduled for in an establish coalition. They had a counterrally and they raise a lot of money to bring in what you see behind me. They set up a speaker, the states, excuse me, with big speakers. They essentially silencing members of the propalestinian encampment. That encampment, just over my shoulder, you can see has been in place since thursday. Now, it is covered by plywood. By contrast, i spoke with an organizer at the school, who says to the surprise of some people, they have the support among jewish students. Listen in. This is largely run by jewish students. There are Many Organizations in the coalition. Several of them are explicitly jewish organizations. There is the passover seder. Theres a broad, Diverse Coalition of members in our community. The Common Ground is both sides want to be seen and both sides want to be heard. Behind us, you can see a couple sides peacefully talking, sharing their concerns. Many of you might be wondering what is the issue . Students not only on campus of ucla, but across the country want their universities to divest and the tensions continue to boil over what is happening in gaza. A moment ago, we heard one of the organizers say, hey, we want to hear from you. Alex . A great perspective, Adrienne Broaddus it feels more tense than yesterday when you were on the campus. He will come back and check in with you again to see how things are going in the next hour. Also Breaking News as another round of tornadoes come into parts of the midwest and plains overnight. Oklahoma, hardesthit with several massive tornadoes and three reported that it rounds out a weekend in which more than 100 tornadoes ripped through several states. Marissa powers is joining the from sulfur, oklahoma. What are you seeing there . I can tell you a lot of devastation in the Historic Downtown part of sulfur, oklahoma. I want to first put this in perspective for those who have not been watching all the weather happening. Over the past couple of days, friday, yesterday, today, over 120 tornado reports as many of the reports that we saw yesterday were during the nighttime and we have seen that is something historically that does prove to be fatal for people. That is twice as likely when we talk about those numbers and stats. In sulfur, i want to set the scene. The governor of oklahoma just arrived. I want to show you what is going over my shoulder. A little hard to tell because you do have quite a few official cars. The governors car is there and he is surveying the damage. If we are able to push in or show the video that we have gathered since we got here on the ground, you can see so much devastation within these blocks. Businesses and homes, people, emotional as they walk through, surveying what is left. Theyre walking through, picking up their belongings. Business owners telling me they had worked their entire lives and it was all reduced to rubble. This place behind me, the store owner in tears as he was looking at what was left. There is a lot of that happening, not just in sulfur. We have seen damage scattered in other places. We know those images are striking. Again, i cannot stress this enough. When we talk about what makes this so eerie is it was so difficult to see. A lot of people saying, even though they are in Tornado Alley and this is a place that is used to seeing tornadoes, people felt caught up card. They described getting into

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