Thousands upon thousands. Of course, anyone displaced is very sad news. Thank you so much, jesse. That will do it for me of this edition. I will see you tomorrow on the beat weekend. Welcome to our special new york versus donald. We are going to get into this criminal trial. Defendant Robert Reeling from the first week of testimony in new york. We are covering that on tonight for special over the course of this hour. We have been reporting on the testimony of experts from bob to the sordid world of new york tabloids. We also have a Beat Special Report on a new indictment against a lawyer, Boris Epshteyn, who first admitted his role in the now indicted electric plot on the beat. This week, we have a remarkable contrast from d. C. To new york. You mightve noticed the Friendly Supreme Court slowed the prosecution of jack smith and asked a bunch of friendly questions about all the potential problems with prosecuting a president. If you would send to the Oral Argument or coverage coming might have noticed it sounded like that kind of trial was a futile project. Well, right up the east coast, an actual trial of an actual former president was going forward. The republic did not crumble it is a contrast that hangs over all of this in america and what we are going to get into tonight this very first week of the new york trial. It seems to undercut the suppose it concern of the tribe appointed justices, where someday, somehow, that it is a bad thing. They are already happening. The first week of this trial shows not only is it possible, but also gave us the first real evidence backed in court finding version of the das story. We put together a brisk ride of what we are learning. The prosecution in president donald S Hush Money Trial drew the sharp outlines of its case against the former president. The prosecution laid out a dispassionate, straightforward, very limited, very blunt reporter prosecutors telling the jury of seven men and five women it was Election Fraud, pure and simple. The defense gets right up and the defense says, the story you just heard is not true. You hear the Prosecution Layout a clear roadmap. You had a reference to the tape recording. That is a terrible tape for president donald. The defense was like a circus leader. He is buying himself time. Reporter david , giving bombshell testimony. He said we committed a campaign violation. Cohens response . He was not worried because it Jeff Sessions is the Attorney General and donald has him in his back pocket. David pecker acknowledged he did this catch and kill with Karen Mcdougal for the benefit of the truck campaign. They spent hours trying to trip them up, catch them in contributions. He grabs and president donald s former Executive Assistant described as a gatekeeper, his right hand, and lawyers are being paid for by president donald. You heard that word gatekeeper. He has gatekeepers and allies and friends that are talking under oath and the da is getting details out of them to bolster the opening argument. Where the jury was told cases about a criminal conspiracy and a coverup. David pecker has been admitting that. He recounts his dealing with the star witness Michael Cohen to buy in and bury stories, in order to protect president donald s campaign. They allege an agreement to then hide financial footprints. They told the jury this will also be corroborated with evidence in , the defendants own words, showing an illegal conspiracy. He said there is not an actual conspiracy charge in this case. That is true. The word conspiracy has a legal meaning and a more colloquial meaning if you have ever watched a mafia movie. They are saying they conspired together. They also attack the whole conspiracy theory, that he attacked through unlawful means. It would be needed to supersize this misdemeanor of financial fraud into a felony case. The Trough Defense has kind of said, well, maybe the da is being alarmist about what amounts to, however dirty, politics as usual. That is how they argue it. Some proclaim there is nothing wrong with trying to influence and to collection. It is called democracy. The da has put up three witnesses with the testimony this week. The National Enquirer chiefly mentioned, david , was clearly the hottest, unloading details, dishing the original, sordid meeting that formed this inquirer alliance, which involved a heavy dose of defamation against ted cruz and his family. Details about how the inquiry or acted as an arm of the campaign, meaning that it they were phoned in by himself Karen Mcdougal and Stormy Daniels, they got money from different places but it all went back according to the delay to the original campaign motivation. Told on and for how he tried to hide their contacts back in the day by using some secret messaging app. It did not work him obviously. The da also showed how they knew it was wrong, that got nervous when election regulators started to probe and cohen saidhad him over the department of justice. They say that as to the evidence that team knew they had criminal exposure from this and their thinking was not, we did not do a crime. Her thinking was, oh, our appointees will protect us. We have them in our pocket. I do not know if Jeff Sessions would fit in there, but it is an analogy. But they did not shield Michael Cohen. He was convicted and imprisoned by the very independent prosecutors who are federal prosecutors during the era. Over the week, the prosecution turned into rhona graff, who appears to be a better turns terms on him. The defendant and his company are still paying for her lawyers. You take this all together and what you see is a lot more evidence against than reasonable doubt on his behalf. That does not mean he is losing this case. We are in the das side. The burden is on them. For a first week, this was not exactly a slow rise or a lot of accounting spreadsheets. This was a two by fours one repeatedly at president donald as a defendant and while some of that came from those prosecutors tough talk in the opening, tonight, we have to remember a lot of that tough talk and incriminating information came from his buddy, tabloid chief david , who said by the end of his testimony, is not personal and he still counts president donald as a friend, but he is telling the truth under oath about their campaign crimes. How bad is it . We have a couple Special Guest at the table. We will be back in 90 seconds. . Can i finish . Buy one wrap get one 50 off in the subway app today. My frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. For one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. One pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. We are joined by former u. S. Attorney george and jason johnson, both analysts for us. I went through what we got from this opening week. I think it is fair to say if youre on the jury, it feels like the da is up. They are in the lead. It does not mean we know the outcome. What do you think they achieved in this first week and what do they have to worry about . A great question. If you are the prosecution and you are not up after your force with this, youre in big trouble. But the prosecution really did start off with an unexpected bang. No one knew what to expect out of david. We learned he had been cooperating with prosecutors and he brought straight into the essential conspiracy, the Election Fraud conspiracy, which is necessary to turn the misdemeanor that is charged into a felony. Important testimony. He stood up pretty well on testimony come up on cross examination. They did not seem to come after him with a lot. They tried to pick away at his credibility. They question some of the key pieces of evidence, but he was thoroughly rehabilitated on redirect examination. Prosecution has to be feeling good. Jason, i do not want to be unkind to the defendant and he is legally presumed innocent, but his family is not there. The jury can notice that. These are his friends and allies. Some of them have gone so far that they are like, Michael Cohen, who was so angry it might affect his credibility. Mr. Says, yeah, we are friendly. The guy is a liar, but we are friendly. He may have committed campaign crimes, and that is what i thought we did, but we are friendly. He has a whole backstory up, shall we say, really complicated allegations, but we are friendly. If these are the views of his friends, how does that hurt him in not only the journey jury, but the court of public opinion. That is why this is such a bad week. We can go through the legalese and jargon, but the average person is picking out every fifth word. They are picking up things like adult film star, pay off, family is not there, and falling asleep during the trial. The outside world is like, okay, this does not look good. We are not seeing anything that gives us the opportunity to think, my gosh, is alert and paying attention to this. It is the old song, how many of us have them . If you heard somebody say, this room was full with people who are supporting president donald and they leave the room every day and melania is there and everything else, it gives the outside public impression, these people believe in him, right . Even if he is guilty, his family is still with them. The fact he does not have people that are down with him, that is what the public is picking up and the jury also sees that. What i am going to do, joyce, i will let you this is a classic. I will let you marinate. I will tell you at the end. In cd, they call that a deep tease. We say, joyce is coming back. That is a tease. For the public, we show this earlier. Front pages in states red and blue around the world, they do not have a vote, but it is ricocheting. What do you think about the fact it takes a level x, a Richter Scale to say, oh, my god, it is a big deal and this is happening, to remind people what it is like if president donald is in the center, whether he is in does that hurt him, just the feeling of what this is like . It adds up already. After a while, people started thinking, what why is he not in court . He is in court for documents and an affair. Will he be gone until november . Everyone thinks he will be on trial the whole time and that is why people are worried. Here is the other thing. I do not carry too much weight on anything this early. But i can say is this. The number of americans who have said that if president donald is convicted of anything, that it will affect their vote, has stated steady at 23 to 25 . There is a risk. This is not there was situation not a situation that if he is convicted at Something Like this they will say, you know, i do not think i can do it. That is a real consequence of this trial. I appreciate the precision of your mind and i appreciate you dropped a second reference. I am reminded of we are all up in the danger zone at the judge hit with a hammer and my brother aint coming home. Will you unveil your earlier reference . No, im going to wait. I want this to be teased and i will have you know that when you come back. She is going to integrate it when she comes back. People ask, wait, what is planned or scripted . I did not know youre going to say it we will all be in suspense. Joyce, i did want to include you in the legal breakdown because these arizona charges are not only a big deal but they involve one of s new york defense advisers. Joyce will come right back as we get into that, as these cases collide. We will show you Boris Epshteyn. You might remember him. We have that breakdown with joyce vance up next. E up next. Like a free 5g phone, when you switch. No tradein required. Partner with our experts today. But st. Jude has gotten us through it. 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Was at the defendants table with the Boris Epshteyn, a veteran of the white house and campaign, who has become central to president donald s activities since 2020. He was in court with the president donald as you see here come along with the lead Defense Counsel , just as he was at the Defense Table at that first new work arraignment. He has been quarterbacking for and has led many different efforts throughout 2020 , attacking those Election Results that showed lost. We have been reporting on those efforts for years , including contrary to not just january 6th violence, but a host of other plots over those we have pressed epstein on his role in those efforts, as well as his legal views, which are relevant as he is involved in all this. Here we are in this extremely busy week as he is there. You can see him working on his phone with the lead counsel, trying to help stay out of a new york prison. However, what we can tell you is with all this news you may have missed, epshteyn joined the ranks of criminal lawyers indicting him for a lector Election Fraud. Boris epshteyn has a prominent role in this 2024 campaign. Rudy giuliani, Boris Epshteyn, mark meadows, suddenly back in the news. This is the first time he has been indicted, but also a former aid and one of his closest top advisers to this day. For epshteyn, this is a big deal and he is legally presumed innocent. It is also a big deal and a live issue in this new york case. Defendant using boris as a lawyer there and reporting on all these issues, we have interviewed epshteyn repeatedly, including in those early subpoenas. When you say you will provide evidence, does that mean your intent is to cooperate . Im happy to provide evidence of the overwhelming fraud that happened in the 2020 elections. Was your plan to try to force a vote in the house, to reverse the Election Outcome . I had no idea there would be any violence whatsoever. There was absolutely a plan and a process for there to be challenges to the election. Is that a yes . There is a process to challenge electoral votes. There is a process. And youre on record and we pressed on those issues and questions. Epshteyn is indicted along with giuliani, meadows, ellis, eastman, and others who had to defend