Starts now. Tonight on all in day i feel like this is what we have been waiting for and the curtain went up. I couldnt believe it. The biggest today at at the trump trial. For the first time on the Public Record we are getting David Corroborating what Michael Cohen for years has articulated about that meeting. The man at the center of the conspiracy tells all. He said we should not speak over a landline, we should use signal. Tonight, david role in the conspiracy to elect donald trump. It sounds like the judges getting tough on trumps lawyer. Judge merchan saying to Donald Trumps attorneys, you are losing all credibility with the court. And why the Biden Campaign says they have a chance to win florida. Hes out campaigning and i am here sitting up as straight as i can all day long. In our series continues, are you better off than you were four years ago . The disinfectant knocks it out in a minute and is there a way that we can do Something Like that Injection Inside or almost a cleaning . All in starts right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes. Day two of the criminal trial of donald trump and today we heard in great detail how trump and his gang conspired to hide his were secrets, or some of them. While trump and his lawyer continue to stretch the patients of judge juan merchan. The morning started on a hearing on the gag order which was issued, which trump has flagrantly been violating on social media and elsewhere. We will have more on that later in the show, but suffice it to say the entire event was an embarrassment for trumps attorney. Blanche, once assistant u. S. Attorney for the district of new york, was forced to debase himself in the service of his boss. If you agree to work for trump the threshold qualification is to be the kind of person who only cares first and foremost about pleasing him rather than doing your job. In fact in statements on monday, blanche went out of his way to let everyone know he was speaking to an audience of one. He insisted on referring to his client as President Trump and saying, quote, youre going to hear me refer to him as President Trump. This is a title he earned as our 45th president. Call him President Trump out of respect for the office that he held. As we saw today and likely will continue to see, as we have seen in many different venues and situations, pleasing donald trump and doing your job, in this case providing the best legal representation, often a mutually exclusive choice. That theme continued when longtime publisher of the National Enquirer david took the stand again this afternoon. He outlined how he worked for trump and Michael Cohen to suppress negative stories about that then president ial candidate and to plant negative and presumably baseless stories about trumps political opponent. Quote, Michael Cohen would call me and say we would like you to run a negative article, lets say for arguments sake on ted cruz. He would send me information about ted cruz or ben carson or marco rubio and that was the basis of our story. We would embellish it from there. Michael cohen was not part of the campaign. When he said we, i thought he was talking about himself and mr. Trump. It sounds like he thought he was acting at the direction of donald trump. He published stories like this about texas senator ted cruz who challenged trump in the primary. Extramarital affairs with multiple women. Or this story, remember this one . This one got a little bit of attention. Admitted making up linking ted cruz to the john f. Kennedy assassination. Remember that one . The substance of this is what the inquirer did not practice did not publish as part of a practice known as catch and kill. Culminating in a 2015 meeting reporter tonight a person with the matter tells nbc news that candidate trump was in the room when the National Enquirer publisher discussed ways that ami could help quash negative stories about mr. Trumps relationships with women. That was from 2018 when the meeting was first reported. In that meeting in august he told trump through Michael Cohen that anything i hear in the marketplace, if i hear anything negative about yourself or i hear anything about women selling stories, i would notify you. I would notify Michael Cohen and then he would be able to have them kill in another magazine or have them not be published. Todays testimony was a bit of a cliffhanger as he began to outline the plan to pay off playboy model Karen Mcdougal to cover up her own story of an affair with trump. According to testimony, one of his editors approached him in the spring of 2016 about mcdougal with the understanding that she wanted someone to purchase and bury the story. Michael cohen insisted on communicating through an encrypted app. He grew agitated as they worked to vet the story, saying, quote, he kept on calling and each time he called he seemed more anxious. I assumed that he had the conversation with mr. Trump and he was asking Michael Cohen, did you hear anything yet . He also testified that trump called him directly about the mcdougal story, saying, quote, i spoke to michael and he told me about karen and trump said to me, what do you think . He said that he told trump to purchase the story. The former editor will resume his testimony. He paid mcdougal 150,000 for the rights to her story and silence. Trump was supposed to repay him. He was not doing this as charity. He was the passthrough, if you will. Trump did what he always does. He stiffed him on the bill, which is why Michael Cohen was the one forced to pay Stormy Daniels out of his own pocket. And msnbc Legal Correspondent has been watching from inside the courtroom. Andrew rice, he just profiled todd blanche in a cover story. Good to have you both here. Topline impressions from today . My topline impression is that he had a whole lot to say. He was asked how often he communicated with trump and said after trump became a candidate, conversations increased. He would expect a candidate would get so busy that they would not have time and yet they still found time to meet once a month and talked on the phone once a week and sometimes more. We heard about those conversations today, bookending the testimony. That august, 2015 meeting that you talked about and the phone call during 2016 about Karen Mcdougal having been vetted and what trump wanted to know about the conversation. I to assume there are a lot more conversations and the prosecution is going to elicit testimony about them in the ensuing days. I thought the most relevant thing to watch was the ongoing dichotomy going on inside the courtroom and outside the courtroom. I think it came into relief really at the beginning of the day when there was a hearing about whether donald trump would be held in contempt for some of the things he said on truth social about witnesses and even about a juror. Todd blanche, the guy that i profiled in this story, got up and said that a client has a right to talk about the two systems of justice that have been shown in the courtroom and i think this is something that we will see a lot. Donald trump if he can win an acquittal or a mistrial, thats great for him, but he is running against the system. A followup on that, we will talk about this in a second in greater detail, but he says he is doing his best or something and that is when he says you are losing credibility, come on, buddy. What is blanches angle . If it is the case that your understanding of the trump approach to this is not primarily legal, that it is about making this broader case, is blanche on board with that strategy . I think he is trying to make it very clear to find a juror, one juror really who will hold out and wont vote to convict donald trump and they are hoping for a mistrial. If there is a mistrial of course donald trump will go on the Courthouse Steps and say i have been completely exonerated, even in new york. So that is the strategy. Ultimately the back and forth with the judge was happening outside the presence of the jury and has not bled into the trial too much, but it will be an interesting dynamic to watch. In terms of this testimony and the notion of a mistrial, one of the things that is going back to the transcripts and striking me again. Indulge me for a second. Sometimes you will have a classic Courtroom Drama and there was a question of was that person driving the car . Did that actually happen . In this case it is clear as day all this stuff happened. Is there any real doubt that they set up the catch and kill . I guess you could think that Michael Cohen is lying, but the basics of all of the stories being presented seems bedrock solid. Let me push back on that. I think one of the things the prosecution has to establishes the extent of Donald Trumps own involvement. It is necessary not only contextually, but to prove the crime. We all know about what i will call the antecedent story. The setup of the Hush Money Payments. The thing that they have to prove to show falsification of Business Records is a felony is that there was a coverup to commit or conceal a crime and tying donald trump expressly to that i think is something none of us have really seen the evidence about yet and we are all looking for it. I guess my point is that on this part of it, not the criminal part, it is just did this arrangement happen . From the reporting we have, also i cant quite get it from the transcript. From the transcript he seems comfortable and forthcoming as a witness. How would you describe it . Maybe i am naive, but i thought it was pretty shocking to hear him talk with such total frankness. The nature of the relationship that he had with donald trump. He candidly said on the stand that this is not normal. Even by the standards of the National Enquirer, these transactions were not normal. They had a very special relationship that they had forged and they wanted to see donald trump elected president and they were acting as an adjunct arm of the campaign. This had nothing to do with the criminal trial, but as disclosures go, the part about negative stories. He would just send us stuff. That is shocking. An unbelievable scandal and it also gives you a sense of how donald trump rejects his view of the media. They all function like that i think the other thing that was lost until today is what is david getting out of this . He said he was the top celebrity among inquirer readers. That he was detail oriented. All of the things that he said about donald trump that are complementary are eventually going to be his doom as he tells his story. Also there is a little bit of a time machine going back to the apprentice as a hit show. This guy has a hit show and moves product periods we need to be close to him. Thank you very much. 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That added family of the court and the District Attorney to the prohibited list. In a hearing today prosecutors presented several posts from donald trump, 10 in fact, they say violated the order. Most attacking Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels. Both of whom are presumed witnesses in the case. The prosecutor argued, quote, there cant be any question that he is aware of what the order requires and that knowledge alone indicates the disobedience of the order is willful. It is intentional. He added we are not yet seeking and incarcerated tory penalty. Defendant seems to be angling for that. Trump lawyer todd blanche tried to defend the indefensible, making the judge visibly frustrated and when he told the judge this gag order, we are trying to comply with it, President Trump is being very careful to comply with the rules. The judge responded, you are losing all credibility with this court. She served as a judge for nearly 20 years in the state of california and joins me now. We love hearing from you. First, set the stage. There was a sort of motion to show cause, right . The people, the District Attorneys office wants to make the case affirmatively to the judge that trump is right now violating his gag order, so what was the preceding that started the hearing today . This was a Criminal Contempt Hearing and the burden is on the prosecution to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, every single element of criminal contempt. Which is, there is a valid order, trump know about the order and willfully violated it. That was the burden today and they met the burden by presenting all of these social media posts and