Court considers his claim of president ial immunity, in a decision that could be a game changer in legal efforts to hold them accountable. We are breaking down the monumental week ahead. New world order, now that the house is finally passed eight for ukraine. We are taking a closer look at what it will really take to keep and other autocrats in check. Wesley clark is here with his advice for the president. The state of the race, a new poll shows President Bidens Approval Rating inching higher in his race against donald trump. Mark murray will join me live, to discuss the story behind the numbers. I am jonathan capehart, this is The Sunday Show. Tomorrow, we will see something that none of us have ever seen before. The criminal prosecution of a former american president. For the first time, donald trump will face a jury of his peers in a case that could carry prison time. Trumps hush money and Election Interference trial could be the ultimate test of the rule of law and the nature of accountability in this country. In less than 24 hours, the prosecution and the defense will deliver Opening Statements in front of 12 members of the jury and six alternates, laying out the evidence for and against trumps guilt. That is in spite of multiple lastditch efforts by trumps team to delay the start of his trial. As a reminder, trump is charged with 34 Felony Counts of falsifying records. The Manhattan District Attorney accuses trump of interfering in the 2016 election by disguising payments to adult film star, stormy daniels, to quiet her allegation of a past sexual encounter with trump, as legal expenses. Trump has pleaded not guilty and denies any wrongdoing and says he will testify in his own defense and tomorrow, judge merchan will decide how he can be crossexamined if he does take the stand. During Jury Selection last week, and angry and Defiant Donald Trump tried making his case to the only cameras allowed, outside the courtroom. Here is a taste of his mini hallway press conference. This is a case that should never have been put forward. Its an assault on america. Its legal expenses. All of these are stories from legal experts, saying how this is not a case. The case is ridiculous. Another one, the case is ridiculous. The judge has to take off this gag order. Its very unfair that my Constitutional Rights have been taken away. Prosecutors say that trump already violated his gag order at least 10 times, including sharing comments on social media, calling jurors undercover liberal activist. Judge merchan will weigh in on tuesday and could give trump a fine for those posts. Thats not the only threat to his finances. At a hearing, also tomorrow, the new York Attorney general will seek to cancel trumps 175 million bond in his civil fraud case after questioning whether the company that issued the bond has the money to cover it. If the judge agrees, trump will have just to seven days to secure a different loan or have some of his assets used. Moving over all these cases is the Supreme Court, we will finally hear arguments in trumps claim of president ial immunity. The question at issue is fundamental. How much can a current or former president get away with that the rest of us cannot . Make no mistake, if the High Court Rules in his favor, it could derail all legal efforts to hold Trump Accountable for his actions, alter the rule of law, and change the nature of american democracy. Trump has clearly been a little obsessed about all of this, posting online about president ial immunity more than the dozen times this weekend alone. Trump will be stuck in new york, during his Supreme Court date, but expect his legal team to bring the crazy even without him. As you may remember, trumps attorney told a lower court that a president can be immune from prosecution, even for ordering a murder. Could a president who ordered Seal Team Six to assassinate a political rival, who is not impeached, could he be subject to criminal prosecution . If you were impeached and convicted first. So your answer is no . My answer is qualified yes. Let that sink in. An argument that would let a president or former president get away with murder, and if thats an example of what we could hear this week, go up. Joining me now is former federal prosecutor, doug kershner, host of the Justice Matters podcast and, mark stern, writer for this late. So, you were skeptical of the Manhattan District Attorney case, but have come around. What changed your mind about the importance of this trial . Over the past year, Manhattan District Attorney, alvin bragg, and his team, had made a strong case that this really was a Felony Offense under new york law. It was not just a misdemeanor involving low local low level recordkeeping, but was fundamentally tied to federal and state laws involving campaignfinance and Election Interference. That is why District Attorney bragg made such an effort to say, this is not just about hush money, this is Election Interference. I think thats really important, because we are all watching these cases get stuck in the lower courts, and not go to trial. This is the first to go forward and theres been temptation to say this doesnt matter, its not a big deal, but the fact that it is fundamentally about honest elections and whether or not trump can break all the rules that apply to everyone else, i think that matters and it really raises the stakes. I was convinced that this was the right time to bring these charges and that they were the right charges, because the District Attorney showed that if trump is found guilty, that he truly did conspire to violate state and federal election laws and is a serious offense and he should be held accountable. Glenn, you are the formal federal prosecutor. The former federal prosecutor. Are you skeptical of this case . No, not really. When you see the evidence, okay, i understand, but when you see the mountain of evidence amassed against donald trump, when the folks who are suspicious of the sort of quality of the evidence in this case go to things like, oh, Michael Cullen was lying, okay, of course he was. In fact, that was to protect donald trump and keep him out of hot water. Its not the question of whether a witness lied, previously, that will convince the jury about the strength or weakness of the case, its whether that witness is telling the truth now and whether the witness is corroborated. With things like Covert Audio Recordings of donald trump and Michael Cullen, conspiring to commit the crime, with hard evidence like, you know, documents and reimbursement checks that donald trump was writing, including out of the oval office, you take the weakness of Michael Cohen lying and turn it into a strength. You talk about his motive for lying, which was to help his former boss. I am not all that concerned that if the jury follows the evidence and applies the instructions of law, as judge merchan gives it to them, i am fairly confident they may end up convicting donald trump and may do it in a new york minute. Jurors have already had to worry about their identities being leaked, a couple jurors have been asked to be removed, might we see other jurors ask to be dismissed . I feel like its almost inevitable that we will have other jury bumps along the way. Its not that unusual, when we pick a jury, was in the jurors home for the night, they come back the next day to begin hearing Opening Statements. One or more of the jurors are like, you know what, i came up with some reason, some concerns, and i might not be able to sit and that happens all the time. You know, early on in the process, the judge, if those reasons are valid, can dismiss that juror and replace that juror with an alternate. Because there are only six alternate seated, if we have an unusually high number of jurors who feel like they want to get off the jury, maybe they are feeling uncomfortable, maybe they have been gotten to, ive had that happen, i hope that is enough and i trust that six will be enough. People close to trump are anxious about people having about how he will have so little to do as he sits there for weeks on end. It has been decades since hes had to spend so much time in the immediate vicinity of anyone who is not part of his family, his staff, or his throng of admirers. The new york times. What kind of impression is trump making with the jury . He has made a poor impression on potential jurors. We know hes looked hostile and aggressive as jurors have paraded before him, saying their true feelings about the former president. Its manhattan, many of those are far from positive. A lot of the potential jurors criticized him and have said things to his face he probably has not heard in person for many years since he is so insulated from his criticisms. Jurors pick up on that, on body language, on muttering, they take it as a sign of untrustworthiness, the defendant might have something to hide, and it will not play well for him once this goes to trial. Glenn . What do you expect at trump Supreme Court hearing on immunity this week . So, i am not so concerned that the Supreme Court is going to say that a president can commit any and all crimes against the people of the United States, a violation of the federal laws, and can do so with complete impunity and immunity from prosecution. I have a greater concern that they are going to be so interested in what they call Outer Perimeter Immunity, which is not a thing in criminal law but is in civil law. They may conclude that, well, if there are some outer perimeter crimes the president commits, maybe he should have immunity for that and the only way we will know, whether any of what donald trump did, should enjoy Outer Perimeter Immunity, is to send it back to the judge, to hold all kinds of evidentiary hearings on whether some of what he did might enjoy some outer perimeter protection. Then, it can come back to the Supreme Court and then we can definitively resolve the case. The reason i am concerned is that it will eat up so much time. Donald trump may not be tried and tell 2026. Speaking of eating up time, i have to have you come back, because this idea of Outer Perimeter Immunity demands its own segment. It defies logic to just leave it here, but thank you both very much for coming back to The Sunday Show. Tomorrow, tune in at 10 00 for a special coverage of Opening Statements in Donald Trumps new york criminal trial. Then at 8 00, we will break down the latest in this case. Thats tomorrow at 10 00 eastern right here on msnbc. Coming up hum of the foreign aid package passed by the house heads to the senate after months of resistance from hard right republicans. I will speak with natos former Supreme Commander general, wesley clark, but what is at stake for ukraine and why he says the United States faces a growing threat from putin and his autocratic allies. 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